I remember when the name "Richard Garriott" mattered. Then the industry evolved. The early 2000s were pretty crazy but thankfully, it showed us who could innovate, and who had been riding on their name for a bit too long.
Richard Garriott, I hope you enjoy your stay at Molyneux Club although I hear it's pretty lonely in there...
He talks about the game not being PtW, and then talks about people making money off of other people, especially those who aren't interested in NFTs.
I want to laugh, but I want to cry.
Thats actually a common thread in a lot of blockchain games. A lot of studios are trying to find a way to ...at least promise... ongoing profits to land holders even when the majority of players may not partake in the NFT aspects of the game at all...
And there is some precedent that it could work, but in order for it to really make sense you have to have robust smart contracts and an in game token that is commonly traded in and out of the game. So much so that non-nft gamers utilize the token, but still of value to on chain token holders so that people are buying tokens and items to keep the values relevant.
Basically if you make the in game token of monetary value, then the use of it by non-nft gamers holds some value that translates into "earning" when they spend it on in game items. Land holders would get a percentage of that trade as a transaction fee (probably paid for in the same currency) so its all speculative and earnings can fluctuate by more than just the in game market.
I guess I'll let you know how that works out. We haven't really seen it in action in a meaningful way as of yet.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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Game will be ready in 3 years "or so", but of course starts out with what really worked well in SotA, land sales.
Chris Spears is even involved, apparently has lots of spare time despite his "CEO" role in SotA.
This article really should have "SPONSORED" plastered all over it, along with a recap of the shenanigans the last RG lead MMORPG had, including stiffing it's investors without a word.
Sleeping with the enemy? Gamers be the "cat" in this scene.
Please tell me they will have a sub reddit or other public forum....
Unlike mmorpg.com, MassivelyOP showed some intregrity.
"We note here for the record that we were offered a chance to interview Garriott about this new game, but we were told we could not ask about the many outstanding issues and irregularities revolving around Shroud of the Avatar, which are obviously critical when it comes to the credibility of any new Garriott project, so we declined to participate."
I wouldn't be surprised if garriott reconsidered offering them the interview because he read some of their posts on games that feature NFT's. There's no integrity over there about that, they immediately attack any game that features them. At least TRY to seem unbiased when you're presented with new ideas, even if you don't like them, at least if you want to be taken seriously.
MMORPGs and many games are starting to implement NFT's. You don't have to like them or support them and you can hate them as much as you want, but I expect a little more from people reporting on what's happening in the industry. They need to be better than that.
There's absolutely no requirement you need to like, or pretend to like, something to report on it. And they didn't turn down the interview due to the NFT's, theyturned it down due to Garriott's shady ass wanting to dictate a glowing commercial ignoring recent events in his previous venture rather than an actual interview. While mmorpg.com said "Whatever you want, Mr. Garriott! We need clicks!".
Just because you ask a question doesn't mean they have to answer it. They got turned down for a chance for an interview because they threw a tantrum that they wouldn't get answers to whatever nonsense they asked.
Or, they could have done the interview like grown ups and asked relevant questions and asked their nonsense ones too, and ended up with whatever answers they got. Instead they did nothing and got rejected from the interview and in turn had to report on others reports. Lol.
What could go wrong with this level of backers and former game devs?
Thats not uncommon. There's quite a big list of developers, even big name ones, getting funding from blockchain and metaverse companies woven into each other with extended funding from special venture investors and project funds, some of which tie directly back into the protocols these games are built on.
It's always about how the players can "benefit" but the benefit they mean is purely transactional in nature (with very little possibility at that). That's not the benefit someone truly interested in MMOs is looking for... That's not why we play. To build the game around that... when I hear about it, makes me feel complete disinterest.
Game will be ready in 3 years "or so", but of course starts out with what really worked well in SotA, land sales.
Chris Spears is even involved, apparently has lots of spare time despite his "CEO" role in SotA.
This article really should have "SPONSORED" plastered all over it, along with a recap of the shenanigans the last RG lead MMORPG had, including stiffing it's investors without a word.
Sleeping with the enemy? Gamers be the "cat" in this scene.
Please tell me they will have a sub reddit or other public forum....
Unlike mmorpg.com, MassivelyOP showed some intregrity.
"We note here for the record that we were offered a chance to interview Garriott about this new game, but we were told we could not ask about the many outstanding issues and irregularities revolving around Shroud of the Avatar, which are obviously critical when it comes to the credibility of any new Garriott project, so we declined to participate."
I wouldn't be surprised if garriott reconsidered offering them the interview because he read some of their posts on games that feature NFT's. There's no integrity over there about that, they immediately attack any game that features them. At least TRY to seem unbiased when you're presented with new ideas, even if you don't like them, at least if you want to be taken seriously.
MMORPGs and many games are starting to implement NFT's. You don't have to like them or support them and you can hate them as much as you want, but I expect a little more from people reporting on what's happening in the industry. They need to be better than that.
There's absolutely no requirement you need to like, or pretend to like, something to report on it. And they didn't turn down the interview due to the NFT's, theyturned it down due to Garriott's shady ass wanting to dictate a glowing commercial ignoring recent events in his previous venture rather than an actual interview. While mmorpg.com said "Whatever you want, Mr. Garriott! We need clicks!".
Just because you ask a question doesn't mean they have to answer it. They got turned down for a chance for an interview because they threw a tantrum that they wouldn't get answers to whatever nonsense they asked.
Or, they could have done the interview like grown ups and asked relevant questions and asked their nonsense ones too, and ended up with whatever answers they got. Instead they did nothing and got rejected from the interview and in turn had to report on others reports. Lol.
Read much? Let me help, " we were told we could not ask about the many outstanding issues and irregularities revolving around Shroud of the Avatar"
They showed integrity when faced with a demand they didn't want to honor, and only someone extremely rude would break their promise and attempt to do the interview under false pretenses.
Nothing is far better than something in this case and you are trying to defend the indefensible in this case.
It isn't a matter so much about block chain gaming, RG and Chris S have no business making any sort of game after the absolute sh!tshow SotA turned out to be and the only reporting anyone should be doing is to warn people away from these two shysters.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
It's always about how the players can "benefit" but the benefit they mean is purely transactional in nature (with very little possibility at that). That's not the benefit someone truly interested in MMOs is looking for... That's not why we play. To build the game around that... when I hear about it, makes me feel complete disinterest.
It's possible that gamers are not the target audience for these....THey may be looking for investors and the game as an investment, not so much a gaming adventure.
Game will be ready in 3 years "or so", but of course starts out with what really worked well in SotA, land sales.
Chris Spears is even involved, apparently has lots of spare time despite his "CEO" role in SotA.
This article really should have "SPONSORED" plastered all over it, along with a recap of the shenanigans the last RG lead MMORPG had, including stiffing it's investors without a word.
Sleeping with the enemy? Gamers be the "cat" in this scene.
Please tell me they will have a sub reddit or other public forum....
Unlike mmorpg.com, MassivelyOP showed some intregrity.
"We note here for the record that we were offered a chance to interview Garriott about this new game, but we were told we could not ask about the many outstanding issues and irregularities revolving around Shroud of the Avatar, which are obviously critical when it comes to the credibility of any new Garriott project, so we declined to participate."
I wouldn't be surprised if garriott reconsidered offering them the interview because he read some of their posts on games that feature NFT's. There's no integrity over there about that, they immediately attack any game that features them. At least TRY to seem unbiased when you're presented with new ideas, even if you don't like them, at least if you want to be taken seriously.
MMORPGs and many games are starting to implement NFT's. You don't have to like them or support them and you can hate them as much as you want, but I expect a little more from people reporting on what's happening in the industry. They need to be better than that.
There's absolutely no requirement you need to like, or pretend to like, something to report on it. And they didn't turn down the interview due to the NFT's, theyturned it down due to Garriott's shady ass wanting to dictate a glowing commercial ignoring recent events in his previous venture rather than an actual interview. While mmorpg.com said "Whatever you want, Mr. Garriott! We need clicks!".
Just because you ask a question doesn't mean they have to answer it. They got turned down for a chance for an interview because they threw a tantrum that they wouldn't get answers to whatever nonsense they asked.
Or, they could have done the interview like grown ups and asked relevant questions and asked their nonsense ones too, and ended up with whatever answers they got. Instead they did nothing and got rejected from the interview and in turn had to report on others reports. Lol.
Read much? Let me help, " we were told we could not ask about the many outstanding issues and irregularities revolving around Shroud of the Avatar"
They showed integrity when faced with a demand they didn't want to honor, and only someone extremely rude would break their promise and attempt to do the interview under false pretenses.
Nothing is far better than something in this case and you are trying to defend the indefensible in this case.
It isn't a matter so much about block chain gaming, RG and Chris S have no business making any sort of game after the absolute sh!tshow SotA turned out to be and the only reporting anyone should be doing is to warn people away from these two shysters.
Where was the same integrity where sota was concerned in the first place after tabula rasa?
It's clear some of you haven't ever been in a position to interview people. Sometimes you straight up get told what the questions revolve around. There is no integrity in turning down an interview because you don't want to abide by the conditions.
And especially if they went out of the way to request they could ask questions over something other than the stated project. It's clear from my perspective what this interview was about.
For people interested in upcoming projects more information is better than no information ... always. At this point many know my interest in blockchain, the more I hear the more I learn. Tantrums won't get me that info.
Aye f@cking men to that. And the kids that will be telling us it's because were old and no longer matter, will be the ones reeling in their wallets when this shit takes them for every penny.
Game will be ready in 3 years "or so", but of course starts out with what really worked well in SotA, land sales.
Chris Spears is even involved, apparently has lots of spare time despite his "CEO" role in SotA.
This article really should have "SPONSORED" plastered all over it, along with a recap of the shenanigans the last RG lead MMORPG had, including stiffing it's investors without a word.
Sleeping with the enemy? Gamers be the "cat" in this scene.
Please tell me they will have a sub reddit or other public forum....
Unlike mmorpg.com, MassivelyOP showed some intregrity.
"We note here for the record that we were offered a chance to interview Garriott about this new game, but we were told we could not ask about the many outstanding issues and irregularities revolving around Shroud of the Avatar, which are obviously critical when it comes to the credibility of any new Garriott project, so we declined to participate."
At least they have some integrity with regards to interviewing. This article is a complete fluff piece and I don't doubt they were given the same ultimatum. Screw this article and screw this site honestly.
I'm gonna take another extended break from posting to this site.
Game will be ready in 3 years "or so", but of course starts out with what really worked well in SotA, land sales.
Chris Spears is even involved, apparently has lots of spare time despite his "CEO" role in SotA.
This article really should have "SPONSORED" plastered all over it, along with a recap of the shenanigans the last RG lead MMORPG had, including stiffing it's investors without a word.
Sleeping with the enemy? Gamers be the "cat" in this scene.
Please tell me they will have a sub reddit or other public forum....
Unlike mmorpg.com, MassivelyOP showed some intregrity.
"We note here for the record that we were offered a chance to interview Garriott about this new game, but we were told we could not ask about the many outstanding issues and irregularities revolving around Shroud of the Avatar, which are obviously critical when it comes to the credibility of any new Garriott project, so we declined to participate."
I like MOP's approach. More game journalists should have gone that route.
MMORPG.com's drawn-out wallotext reads more like a sales pitch than an article.
Has Garriott made a successful game in the past 25 years? Yeah, he has made bank off of selling dreams, but has he actually produced a complete game since Ultima Online?
The closest would probably be Tabula Rasa, but he cared more about dicking around in space than the game and the TR fans (not him, he cashed out to the tune of $28 million) paid the price for it.
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No…. While I am “A” player I have zero culpability for this mess…
The people that bought and sold stuff for real money… sure… but that wasn’t me.
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Richard Garriott, I hope you enjoy your stay at Molyneux Club although I hear it's pretty lonely in there...
And there is some precedent that it could work, but in order for it to really make sense you have to have robust smart contracts and an in game token that is commonly traded in and out of the game. So much so that non-nft gamers utilize the token, but still of value to on chain token holders so that people are buying tokens and items to keep the values relevant.
Basically if you make the in game token of monetary value, then the use of it by non-nft gamers holds some value that translates into "earning" when they spend it on in game items. Land holders would get a percentage of that trade as a transaction fee (probably paid for in the same currency) so its all speculative and earnings can fluctuate by more than just the in game market.
I guess I'll let you know how that works out. We haven't really seen it in action in a meaningful way as of yet.
"DeHorizon is the parent company of DeMeta and that entire organization seems to be NFTs all the way down."
Here's more on the parent company
https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220224005466/en/DeHorizon-the-Next-gen-Metaverse-Game-Ecosystem-Closes-Strategic-Investment-to-Facilitate-the-Development
What could go wrong with this level of backers and former game devs?
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Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Or, they could have done the interview like grown ups and asked relevant questions and asked their nonsense ones too, and ended up with whatever answers they got. Instead they did nothing and got rejected from the interview and in turn had to report on others reports. Lol.
Need I say more?
These older MMO guys learn how to talk a good game...Throw out the newest trend words and watch the money roll in.......Just another game to avoid.
They showed integrity when faced with a demand they didn't want to honor, and only someone extremely rude would break their promise and attempt to do the interview under false pretenses.
Nothing is far better than something in this case and you are trying to defend the indefensible in this case.
It isn't a matter so much about block chain gaming, RG and Chris S have no business making any sort of game after the absolute sh!tshow SotA turned out to be and the only reporting anyone should be doing is to warn people away from these two shysters.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
It's possible that gamers are not the target audience for these....THey may be looking for investors and the game as an investment, not so much a gaming adventure.
...the big pictue he is trying to sell us.
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(F)ucking
(T)hanks
It's clear some of you haven't ever been in a position to interview people. Sometimes you straight up get told what the questions revolve around. There is no integrity in turning down an interview because you don't want to abide by the conditions.
And especially if they went out of the way to request they could ask questions over something other than the stated project. It's clear from my perspective what this interview was about.
For people interested in upcoming projects more information is better than no information ... always. At this point many know my interest in blockchain, the more I hear the more I learn. Tantrums won't get me that info.
Aye f@cking men to that. And the kids that will be telling us it's because were old and no longer matter, will be the ones reeling in their wallets when this shit takes them for every penny.
At least they have some integrity with regards to interviewing. This article is a complete fluff piece and I don't doubt they were given the same ultimatum. Screw this article and screw this site honestly.
I'm gonna take another extended break from posting to this site.
I like MOP's approach. More game journalists should have gone that route. MMORPG.com's drawn-out wallotext reads more like a sales pitch than an article.
Has Garriott made a successful game in the past 25 years? Yeah, he has made bank off of selling dreams, but has he actually produced a complete game since Ultima Online?
The closest would probably be Tabula Rasa, but he cared more about dicking around in space than the game and the TR fans (not him, he cashed out to the tune of $28 million) paid the price for it.
- RPG Quiz - can you get all 25 right?
- FPS Quiz - how well do you know your shooters?
The icing on the buzzword cake was naming the new company "DeMeta" to ride that "Metaverse" coattail.
- RPG Quiz - can you get all 25 right?
- FPS Quiz - how well do you know your shooters?