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By bye War
Jangang
Member Posts: 15
With Mythic being bought by EA, War has droped from the #2 on my list of games to follow to not even being on my list.
Darkfall Online is of course the #1 game I'm following, as its all about pvp, and has everything I've ever dreamt about in a game. But I had kept War as my backup game, one I planned on trying even if DF is everything I want it to be. Now its not even on the list, I won't even bother trying this, not retail, nor in beta form as EA has a reputation of ruining PvP in MMO's.
Of all the companies in the world who would have loved to purchase Mythic, they choose to sell to the one company that has already alienated a good chunk of their prospective player base. This has got to be the single dumbest move by any game company in the last 10 years, prolley more to be honest.
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Excellent strategic move. They will either get millions of subs or burn it's 50 50, just like it was before, i dont think Mythic could handle the amount of subs they were expecting anyway, they can barely keep the servers up for DAOC nevermind prolly need 50+ servers for WOW
I disagree that they'd have had any trouble keeping the servers up. But thats another issue.
There are more options then EA, or Vivendii Universals, tons more options. NCSoft being the biggest, but hardly the only alternative out there.
Its plainly obvious to me what happened here, EA wanted a replacement for UO, and one that could foreseeably rival wow. They offered a shit load of money to Mythic, and they took the offer. (I don't blame em for taking it, but I won't be buying War anymore either.)
It had nothing to do w/ keeping servers up, or distributions, or any of that. If thats what it was they would have never sold the company, instead they would have merley signed publishing agreements, and the like.
Heh, sad as it may be I'd have rather seen em partner up with SOE then sell to EA. SOE games may be carebear, but they've been designed that way. Where as EA has taken games, and turned them carebear after the fact. No point to that really, other then its another option that they could have pursued if it wasn't all about the money.
Now playing Vanguard, but drooling for WAR
Lol. I certainly would. While EA buying Mythic seriously curbs my enthusiasm for WAR and I know probably won't buy it, at least not at first, if SOE had bought it, then I would never ever buy WAR or any other of Mythic's products.
While I have a negative view of EA, I wouldn't completely rule out buying one of their games.
I think if you compare the drop in the hype meters for WAR when it was annouced Mythic was selling out to EA to the drop Vanguard took when they merely partnered up with SOE, indicates there is a good bit more hostility here to SOE than EA.
Actually Sony distrubition network is larger then both together because ppl forget SoE is a small part of Sony network which distributes music,movies,games you name it.Even many of those companies you see on cds are subsidaries of sony.
I rather they went with Sony myself because unlike EA they have faith in their product.EA has a nasty histoy of canning games if they even think for a second they would not be a success.I mean come on they canned UO sequel twice!Thats totally stupid and shows how much faith they have in mmorpg.Not even mentioning E&B.
Another option would have been microsft but M$ has the same problem with EA they have little faith in mmorpg themselves.M$ bailed on AC series,canned mythica and did a funny dance with vanguard.
Also my experience with AC2 was nearly all the negatives were M$ fault.AC2 looked unfinished at higher levels(M$ rushed the release date),was the only mmorpg i ever played that the chat went down for days and even once for a week on a regular basis(M$ software ran AC2 chat for ages till turbine kept their own and it worked fine after that).M$ billing was a nightmare,it was one of the only mmorpg i ever seen that you pay for a month and if u cancel before the month is over you lose the whole time left in my case 3 weeks and there was not even a prior warning to you cancelling it that this would happen.
I totally agree mythic needed a big brother to be able to think of hitting 500k+ sales on WAR much like blizzard needed vivendi.And yes vivendi has WoW on their main focus.SoE already has EQ2 thats enjoying a rejuvenation in terms of subs,vanguard+a DC comic game +?G&H,though they are big enough to take on more but maybe mythic wanted WAR as a main focus.
But a even better choice might have been ncsoft who have a good history behind them and only tubula rosa awaiting release.
I think they could have done way better with ncsoft or SoE anyday as this companies back their mmorpg and do not scrape them in a second.
POOR MOVE MYTHIC!
Lol. I certainly would. While EA buying Mythic seriously curbs my enthusiasm for WAR and I know probably won't buy it, at least not at first, if SOE had bought it, then I would never ever buy WAR or any other of Mythic's products.
While I have a negative view of EA, I wouldn't completely rule out buying one of their games.
I think if you compare the drop in the hype meters for WAR when it was annouced Mythic was selling out to EA to the drop Vanguard took when they merely partnered up with SOE, indicates there is a good bit more hostility here to SOE than EA.
Well i would rather buy a SoE mmorpg anyday over EA.
Ok i am assuming you are talking about SWG.So what thats one SoE blunder.
They produced EQ2 which is a good game and highly rated and hardly a bad word about it.Planetside the only true mmofps out there to date.
Lets look at EA-dumbed down UO,cancelled 2 UO sequels,closed down jumpgate,has the horrible sims online thats one of the worst rated mmorpg on this site.
And you actually think EA are better suited to running a mmorpg then SoE,please!
-iCeh
Uhhh.... I was really looking foward to this game.
Ever since EA has overtakin mythic I have noticed the decline in this game favour and the attitude people have been talking about it.
Stupid move by Mythic, what were you thinking now your owned by the worst possible company to create a good MMORPG.
EA is going to demand extremely fast creation of the game and fast release date putting preassure on developers and in-turn getting a half ass job done and just making it another one of those thousand of MMORPG's that just bore you.
w00t
Lets be honest, who cares whether its SOE or EA, they are BOTH renowned for destroying games.
Ive played Mythic games on and off for roughly 10 years (started with Dragon's Gate and played most all the way through to DAoC) and have always remained a fan.
Im just shocked and disappointed they sold out.
I run a WoW guild of about 80 people who i had managed to convince to move over to WAR once it came out citing that Mythic were the best MMO devs etc etc.. but now.. i am just gutted and i dont even think im going to bother putting the guild forward for the upcoming WAR beta.
/alters game hype
Morgal/Joillin/Htang
EA is the biggest creator of games in the world, and is behind 1/3 or all games on the market. EA knows, that World of Warcraft is reigning supreme over all other (unfortunately). I think, that EA wants a game, an MMORPG, that can push WoW off the chair. I don't think that EA would touch Mystic much, since they need this game to be perfect. I belive this is why EA bought Mystic... Look at this site:
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060621-7098.html
"So will the acquisition of Mythic bring EA back to a dominant position
in the world of online computer gaming? Given the number of new MMORPG
games that have tried—and failed—to unseat Blizzard from their frozen
throne, it will be an uphill battle. Many companies have tried to build
a "Warcraft-killer" without really understanding what made WoW so
popular in the first place, namely an easy learning curve and
incredible attention to detail. Nevertheless, the addition of EA
marketing muscle to the Warhammer Online
launch should make an impressive splash, and it will improve the gaming
giant's position in Asia, where MMORPGs are incredibly popular."
EA is simply taking thier role back at this biggest of the best. Don't worry people, WAR is in good hands.
If you keep picking at it ,it won't heal.
The past track record of EA does not bode well for Mythic. Even Mythics claims of holding out to get the T's & C's of the takeover to their liking will probably only forstall the inevitable. Once mythic are wholly owned by EA they can pretty much do they want with the game, sure there is likely to be a penalty clause where the have to buy out MJ but if they really want to rush the delivery or change portions of the playstyle they will pay that penalty.
The ONLY thing that will possibly keep EA changes in check is the owner of the IP i.e. GW, and even then that pretty much depends on contracts in place and how much GW want to get the Warhammer IP opened up to a wider marketplace.
I have dramatically reduced my hype for this game already, its now on a watch only basis for me, if Mythic manages to hold on to the Q4 2007 delivery date and initial reviews are good I will still pick up the game, but its no longer an automatic buy for me since EA got involved.
If you keep picking at it ,it won't heal.
Instead about crying about past games that EA have done wrong too, actually look at the facts and dont listen to idiots on forums
http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3712
Sorry, but I don't trust either of em, they both have track records of straight up lying to people. So screw them, and the FACTS...
Well, Mythic are stlil developing and you guys forget, Games Workshop still has HUGE influence in how this game is brought out, they don't want to see their name ruined, they'll hold back the EA gamebashers
When beta comes out, and IF the game sucks, I'll admit I was wrong, but until then I'm in love with WAR
So many people choose to see the bad things,instead of the good? Why? EA has messed up a few games badly. But they are still very succesful.Do you know why? Because thier mistakes weren't big. They still make alot of money and overall I am happy with thier products. Game Workshop is overseeing this also,they have a huge fanbase,larger in europe, and Mythic, messed up a few aspects of DAOC, but its still running isn't it? There are still many players after all these years. It was like as soon a s we saw this ea thing people go. AH! run the demons of EA have stole mythic's soul*bump hype to one* Come on, be realistic guys. If you read up on this stuff. Mythic is just a pawn being overseered by GW, who is being paid by EA to make the game and split the funds gain.>.>
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EA is not making the game.
I think you're all forgetting one minor little detail. EA DIDN"T BUY MYTHIC FOR WAR!!!!! They bought Mythic for Mythic. They don't want the game, they want Mythic.
Mythic is now EA's mmorpg branch. If you read the press release or any interview out there this is plain to see. They want a foothold in the mmorpg genre, and EA was the way to get there. They're not going to mess with WAR because then they will lose that foothold.
Why would they be saying "EA is going to make MMO's for us." If they wanted them just for WAR?
Silly people.
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I live to fight, and fight to live.
This has all been discussed a million times...
but... ANYWHO See you there on launch day
I have one comment. Gamesworkshop Will not allow this to happen. They will stop the games development and not let it be made. See the deal with the original company contracted to make the game. GW is EXTREMELY protective of this IP. Therefore I disagree.
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I have one comment. Gamesworkshop Will not allow this to happen. They will stop the games development and not let it be made. See the deal with the original company contracted to make the game. GW is EXTREMELY protective of this IP. Therefore I disagree.
He brings up a good point. I keep forgetting about this. GW did pull the plug on the original project, andd all the characters,names, ect are still property of GW who , Paul Barnett said himself. Are constantly throwing alot of idea's in the trash due to the fact that they weren't with the IP. GW has the stronger hand in this tug of war. Ea also said they weren't going to mess up.