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Character Improvement?

TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,489
SWG Bloodfin vet
Elder Jedi/Elder Bounty Hunter
 
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  • mindspatmindspat Member Posts: 1,367

    The textures are _NOT_ an improvement.  While they are "different" and "new" they are far from being finished.  Their appearance seems as if they were not completed and just thrown out so players can get legitimate feel for what's being added.

    On my system, the cheeks have streaks which appear like 12 year old girls put on too much blush.  The muscles in the arms are overly exagerated and reminds of several old write ups on comic book artists who just like to "draw lines". 

    These need to be softened up. 

    I only clicked the firt link so I'm not positive if they include all the updates I saw:

    Humans, Twileks, Zabraks, Nikto (sp?)

    Didn't pay much attention to the others.  Not positve about the Nikto races altough the one I saw looked a LOT more detailed from what I recall.  I'll need to check the live game to compare...

  • iskareotiskareot Member Posts: 2,143


    Originally posted by mindspat

    The textures are _NOT_ an improvement.  While they are "different" and "new" they are far from being finished.  Their appearance seems as if they were not completed and just thrown out so players can get legitimate feel for what's being added.
    On my system, the cheeks have streaks which appear like 12 year old girls put on too much blush.  The muscles in the arms are overly exagerated and reminds of several old write ups on comic book artists who just like to "draw lines". 
    These need to be softened up. 
    I only clicked the firt link so I'm not positive if they include all the updates I saw:
    Humans, Twileks, Zabraks, Nikto (sp?)
    Didn't pay much attention to the others.  Not positve about the Nikto races altough the one I saw looked a LOT more detailed from what I recall.  I'll need to check the live game to compare...


    Whats up spat!

    I think it's funny they even spent 30 mins working on this let alone a entire block of time and effort + the team to do this and for what?

    How many people complained that thier toon looked bad?  Minus the diversity issue.. which has nothing to do with it.

    To me that is the best part.... Sure the game is in the crapper BUT WE CAN MAKE YOUR USELESS TOON LOOK GOOD!!!!  whoo hoo!

    ______________________________
    I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
    SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
    Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1

  • maxantomaxanto Member Posts: 778


    Originally posted by mindspat

    The textures are _NOT_ an improvement.  While they are "different" and "new" they are far from being finished.  Their appearance seems as if they were not completed and just thrown out so players can get legitimate feel for what's being added.
    On my system, the cheeks have streaks which appear like 12 year old girls put on too much blush.  The muscles in the arms are overly exagerated and reminds of several old write ups on comic book artists who just like to "draw lines". 
    These need to be softened up. 
    I only clicked the firt link so I'm not positive if they include all the updates I saw:
    Humans, Twileks, Zabraks, Nikto (sp?)
    Didn't pay much attention to the others.  Not positve about the Nikto races altough the one I saw looked a LOT more detailed from what I recall.  I'll need to check the live game to compare...


    Everyone is a critic. I can't believe all the hate posts towards the artists of SWG too... I guess if you work for SOE (even as an artist) you are not safe from the HATE SOE fanbois. I think they look good. I love how armor doesn't look perfect any more... all the little dents and imperfections look splendid imho.
  • auntisocialauntisocial Member Posts: 120

    Like I said in that other thread.   They MASSACREED my twi'lek. 

    Alma before

    Alma after

    They smacked her with the ugly stick! 

    Regards,

    Aunti

    image

  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,489


    Originally posted by maxanto

    Originally posted by mindspat

    The textures are _NOT_ an improvement.  While they are "different" and "new" they are far from being finished.  Their appearance seems as if they were not completed and just thrown out so players can get legitimate feel for what's being added.
    On my system, the cheeks have streaks which appear like 12 year old girls put on too much blush.  The muscles in the arms are overly exagerated and reminds of several old write ups on comic book artists who just like to "draw lines". 
    These need to be softened up. 
    I only clicked the firt link so I'm not positive if they include all the updates I saw:
    Humans, Twileks, Zabraks, Nikto (sp?)
    Didn't pay much attention to the others.  Not positve about the Nikto races altough the one I saw looked a LOT more detailed from what I recall.  I'll need to check the live game to compare...

    Everyone is a critic. I can't believe all the hate posts towards the artists of SWG too... I guess if you work for SOE (even as an artist) you are not safe from the HATE SOE fanbois. I think they look good. I love how armor doesn't look perfect any more... all the little dents and imperfections look splendid imho.


    My Honest opinion... I think some looked ok and some didn't. It's different for SWG players to get used too. Some just need an ID. If this is a preview I think they need a little tweaking still. You are correct, the art team is just that, an art team with artists. Not everyone is going to like your art and that’s the truth. I think it is a big chance the are taking by changing them. But with the right kind of feed back they can make it look pretty good. I'm not really for or against this change if you didn't notice. I liked this one http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e13/raphegalland/SWG/screenShot0027.jpg

    SWG Bloodfin vet
    Elder Jedi/Elder Bounty Hunter
     
  • iskareotiskareot Member Posts: 2,143


    Originally posted by maxanto

    Originally posted by mindspat

    The textures are _NOT_ an improvement.  While they are "different" and "new" they are far from being finished.  Their appearance seems as if they were not completed and just thrown out so players can get legitimate feel for what's being added.
    On my system, the cheeks have streaks which appear like 12 year old girls put on too much blush.  The muscles in the arms are overly exagerated and reminds of several old write ups on comic book artists who just like to "draw lines". 
    These need to be softened up. 
    I only clicked the firt link so I'm not positive if they include all the updates I saw:
    Humans, Twileks, Zabraks, Nikto (sp?)
    Didn't pay much attention to the others.  Not positve about the Nikto races altough the one I saw looked a LOT more detailed from what I recall.  I'll need to check the live game to compare...

    Everyone is a critic. I can't believe all the hate posts towards the artists of SWG too... I guess if you work for SOE (even as an artist) you are not safe from the HATE SOE fanbois. I think they look good. I love how armor doesn't look perfect any more... all the little dents and imperfections look splendid imho.


    YOU HAVE MISSED THE ENTIRE POINT TO THIS..

    See, this is the demograph for the game... you are no doubt in my mind perfect for it.

    See, this is where some of us have now changed...  Boy I am sure glad the toons look good and a entire team spent the time to do this, BUT GUESS WHAT???

    Does this even remotely get back customers?  Did you once ever see this as a issue??  Did at and I dare say see one post from a Vet saying , "GOSH, I wish my armor had dents in it instead of the Level system being diverse!",  or  "Gosh, I am glad I have more shades on my face because I would rather have those then my skill of XXXXX working right."   ---?????

    See this is the problem, horse before the cart and people actually not seeing this..

    If you had a choice of a working game with people in it or having your toon have better shaders.. what would you choose????   (Mind you , you know Godamn well you did not complain before about this) --

    This is like the adding of the Logitech keyboard that a team would have to spend time on... Yes-- a KEYBOARD, when there is hundreds of botched quests and even the legacy quest is still not working right???

    Please do NOT ever get into project managment, you will fail.

    ______________________________
    I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
    SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
    Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1

  • jrscottjrscott Member Posts: 1,252


    Originally posted by auntisocial

    Like I said in that other thread.   They MASSACREED my twi'lek. 
    Alma before
    Alma after
    They smacked her with the ugly stick! 
    Regards,
    Aunti


    OMG!  And you even tried to make the after look better by using a more revealing top!    It did not work.  My condolences.  I guess beauty is not Star Warsy and Iconic either.

    I realize I said I quit. I never said it was forever :)

  • auntisocialauntisocial Member Posts: 120


    Originally posted by jrscott

    Originally posted by auntisocial

    Like I said in that other thread.   They MASSACREED my twi'lek. 
    Alma before
    Alma after
    They smacked her with the ugly stick! 
    Regards,
    Aunti

    OMG!  And you even tried to make the after look better by using a more revealing top!    It did not work.  My condolences.  I guess beauty is not Star Warsy and Iconic either.


    On the other hand ... the hardest thing for me has been leaving my beautiful characters behind.  I've loved them and loved to make videos with them.  If they are no longer beautiful, not only will I not have a problem walking away -- I would delete them to put them out of their misery.

    Regards,

    Aunti

    image

  • jrscottjrscott Member Posts: 1,252

    Even my wife, who is rather neutral to the NGE (secretly loves it because I finally quit SWG over it), hates the changes to character's looks.  Everything we have seen makes the characters meaner looking and more hateful, which not everybody is into. 

    To me, it's just one more example of SOE wasting effort better spent elsewhere.  It seems that with the exception of the Geonosian Cave, almost everything SWG has done since release is the exact opposite of good according to my opinion.

    I realize I said I quit. I never said it was forever :)

  • iskareotiskareot Member Posts: 2,143


    Originally posted by jrscott

    Even my wife, who is rather neutral to the NGE (secretly loves it because I finally quit SWG over it), hates the changes to character's looks.  Everything we have seen makes the characters meaner looking and more hateful, which not everybody is into. 
    To me, it's just one more example of SOE wasting effort better spent elsewhere.  It seems that with the exception of the Geonosian Cave, almost everything SWG has done since release is the exact opposite of good according to my opinion.


    Again a choice made for you, in the end the entire NGE is just this.

    I just like the fact they wasted time and money on it...lol

    You know, because of ALL THE COMPLAINTS prior lol ---muahhahahahah

    They fix things you do not need to have fix and break things you need to work..lolol

    ______________________________
    I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
    SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
    Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1

  • jrscottjrscott Member Posts: 1,252


    Originally posted by auntisocial

    On the other hand ... the hardest thing for me has been leaving my beautiful characters behind.  I've loved them and loved to make videos with them. 
    Regards,
    Aunti


    The wife and I love your videos!  I'm partial to the one where Darth Velveeta is running around trying to find something she can actually kill, finally pulling a blaster to shoot a chuba.  I shall miss these. 

    I realize I said I quit. I never said it was forever :)

  • Harry-SackHarry-Sack Member Posts: 135


    Originally posted by auntisocial

    Like I said in that other thread.   They MASSACREED my twi'lek. 
    Alma before
    Alma after
    They smacked her with the ugly stick! 
    Regards,
    Aunti


    OMG, she looks like Bib Fortuna in drag now. 

    Can they sink this game any further into the shittter or what?

    John Smedley beat up my grandmother.

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  • jrscottjrscott Member Posts: 1,252



    Originally posted by iskareot
    You know, because of ALL THE COMPLAINTS prior lol ---muahhahahahah

    They fix things you do not need to have fix and break things you need to work..lolol


    My favorite:  We have now fixed a bug allowing characters to board transports despite not being in close proximity to the ticket collector.

    I mean like...THANKS SOE!!!!!!  That was really killing the game for me.

    I realize I said I quit. I never said it was forever :)

  • jrscottjrscott Member Posts: 1,252


    Originally posted by Harry-Sack

    OMG, she looks like Bib Fortuna in drag now. 



    I realize I said I quit. I never said it was forever :)

  • ShaydeShayde Member Posts: 4,529
    I think the price of Botox just went up ingame.

    SWG.. now with more wrinkles!


    Shayde - SWG (dead)
    Proud member of the Cabal.
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    It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled :( - Some deluded SWG fanboi who pities me.
    I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
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  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,489


    Originally posted by Shayde
    I think the price of Botox just went up ingame.

    SWG.. now with more wrinkles!


    I noticed that on the some of the toons, I wonder if it's because they set their toons weight to it's lowest/

    anorexic . If you set it up the face fills in a bit.

    SWG Bloodfin vet
    Elder Jedi/Elder Bounty Hunter
     
  • scapegoateescapegoatee Member Posts: 28


    Originally posted by maxanto

    I love how armor doesn't look perfect any more... all the little dents and imperfections look splendid imho.



    Armor textures got updated too?? I thought it was just the player models, not any of the stuff they wear.

    _____
    When Sony and Lucas set out to create the NGE, we said, “How can we do this and make it similar to WoW?” We wanted it to be all about Iconic characters like Luke, combat and locking our players into a class. So we created a system that would restrict players and make all professions the same and there would be minimal gameplay around making that change. We definitely borrowed a lot of ideas from WoW that worked and figured out how to make them fit for SWG – Julio Torres (2005)

  • RekrulRekrul Member Posts: 2,961
    Has anyone bothered to look at character art in WoW?

    It sucks.

    It doesn't matter.

    Nobody asked for this.

    Yet, it works.

    The crowd goes: "ooo, purdy lights". And SOE gets another month of subs.


  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261


    Originally posted by scapegoatee

    Originally posted by maxanto

    I love how armor doesn't look perfect any more... all the little dents and imperfections look splendid imho.


    Armor textures got updated too?? I thought it was just the player models, not any of the stuff they wear.


    Someone has deifinetly been buffing the ST armour my TC guy is wearing...it's so shiny now lol.

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  • RabiaRabia Member Posts: 622
    I don't think there are any Character Improvement classes that will help Helios.

  • ShaydeShayde Member Posts: 4,529
    If this isn't an attempt at polishing a turd, I don't know WHAT is.

    Shayde - SWG (dead)
    Proud member of the Cabal.
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    It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled :( - Some deluded SWG fanboi who pities me.
    I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
    09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0

  • boognish75boognish75 Member UncommonPosts: 1,540


    Originally posted by iskareot

    Originally posted by mindspat

    The textures are _NOT_ an improvement.  While they are "different" and "new" they are far from being finished.  Their appearance seems as if they were not completed and just thrown out so players can get legitimate feel for what's being added.
    On my system, the cheeks have streaks which appear like 12 year old girls put on too much blush.  The muscles in the arms are overly exagerated and reminds of several old write ups on comic book artists who just like to "draw lines". 
    These need to be softened up. 
    I only clicked the firt link so I'm not positive if they include all the updates I saw:
    Humans, Twileks, Zabraks, Nikto (sp?)
    Didn't pay much attention to the others.  Not positve about the Nikto races altough the one I saw looked a LOT more detailed from what I recall.  I'll need to check the live game to compare...

    Whats up spat!

    I think it's funny they even spent 30 mins working on this let alone a entire block of time and effort + the team to do this and for what?

    How many people complained that thier toon looked bad?  Minus the diversity issue.. which has nothing to do with it.

    To me that is the best part.... Sure the game is in the crapper BUT WE CAN MAKE YOUR USELESS TOON LOOK GOOD!!!!  whoo hoo!



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  • ElnatorElnator Member Posts: 6,077


    Originally posted by jrscott


    Originally posted by iskareot


    You know, because of ALL THE COMPLAINTS prior lol ---muahhahahahah

    They fix things you do not need to have fix and break things you need to work..lolol

    My favorite:  We have now fixed a bug allowing characters to board transports despite not being in close proximity to the ticket collector.

    I mean like...THANKS SOE!!!!!!  That was really killing the game for me.




    LOL I laughed my arse off over that one when I read about it.  I was like "oh yeah that was necessary"....  What's really pathetic is that's ALWAYS Been the norm for SWG.  "Let's fix the completely innocuous bugs that actually make the gameplay less tedius and leave the REALLY GAME BREAKING ones in the game as long as possible.... unless of course... the really game breaking ones somehow can be used to a player's advantage... then we'll fix it the same day with a hot patch and take the servers down for <X> hours.

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  • AdevDarkstarAdevDarkstar Member Posts: 23


    Originally posted by Shayde
    If this isn't an attempt at polishing a turd, I don't know WHAT is.




    QTE!!!

  • ElnatorElnator Member Posts: 6,077


    Originally posted by auntisocial

    Like I said in that other thread.   They MASSACREED my twi'lek. 
    Alma before
    Alma after
    They smacked her with the ugly stick! 
    Regards,
    Aunti


    You mean ugly twi-lek's aren't Star-Warsy and Iconic?

    Currently Playing: Dungeons and Dragons Online.
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