What I want to see is the program disbanded. Check the mmorpg.com SWG forum for polls and vote.
The MMORPG boards are 5% good discussion, 95% trolls who have been banned from here because they can't express themselves without being a-holes about it.
You will not find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
LOL what a couple of dumbshits.
I, for one, have an account at the SWG boards...I am just not going to pay them $15 a month to chat with the dregs of the community. Almost everyone that I liked/respected from SWG has completely pulled out now.
Im sure there are plenty of us here with accounts that we could post on over there...We are just smart enough not to pay SOE for the "pleasure".
Originally posted by SODAofBRIA Meatpuppet1987 wrote:
wildcat84 wrote:
What I want to see is the program disbanded. Check the mmorpg.com SWG forum for polls and vote.
The MMORPG boards are 5% good discussion, 95% trolls who have been banned from here because they can't express themselves without being a-holes about it.
You will not find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
LOL what a couple of dumbshits.
I, for one, have an account at the SWG boards...I am just not going to pay them $15 a month to chat with the dregs of the community. Almost everyone that I liked/respected from SWG has completely pulled out now.
Im sure there are plenty of us here with accounts that we could post on over there...We are just smart enough not to pay SOE for the "pleasure".
I sure stirred up a hornet's nest. Probably because I hurt the senator's widdle egos last night here. I guarantee they were reporting the HELL out of my posts there on this subject.
They should just shut down the Official Forums...They are pointless anyway. Leave a Galaxy Trade and a room for each server and cut the rest loose. Then they could fire TH, Virrago, and some mods and hire some coding devs.
Originally posted by Wildcat84 Originally posted by Brete Originally posted by Xcathdra Originally posted by Minimum If there were provable accomplishments, it might be different....
oh come on.. calling some of the playerbase deuschebags isnt an accomplishment?
some of them are So are some of the senators. Badgersmaker and Meatpuppet1987 for two prime examples.
Complete idiots as far as I'm concearned.
______________________________ I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process..... SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
You were trolling. There is no free speech here. If you do not like our forum rules then you don't have to come here.
and just for the archive...
Meatpuppet1987 wrote: SOE represents itself - The Senators are best described as a funnel thru which the wants of the player base are presented to the Developpment team. We are not SOE employees, and we don't represent them.
I’m sorry, maybe on paper. But in the public eye (you may want to look that up senator) you do represent SOE in this capacity. You represent them because you are volunteers, your attitudes, manners or lack there off reflect direct to that of those that placed you in this position of responsibility, SOE.
you are unelected officials placed into a public mandate by the government in power.
Government in power = SOE.
You = Public servants
You being placed and not voted upon = Misrepresentation of the publics interests.
Pikeman, Polition, Merchant,Master Artisan ***** Im easy to talk to once people get to know me, but holding my personal audiences on a throne of bloody skulls tends to put them off at first. *****
---------- "Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
Well at least we now know they serve us no purpose at all and never did other then to say what SOE wanted and not what we wanted and maybe post some faqs time to time.
I like seeing Virr say this, at least now you can tell any GS to more or less go spit.
You gotta love though the idea that we thought they represented us, they never did as we can see and now know for sure.
Sure it's 9 months to late but hey, now we add this to the lists of "Ha ha we got ya!"..
______________________________ I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process..... SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
Also, check out this fat lie from him..."Not as bad as they predicted" lol:
wildcat84 wrote:
Is the NGE working better than they did? - Actually, it isn't as bad as we predicted and now it is much easier to improve upon.
If a HUGE majority of your playerbase says you made a mistake, and please, PLEASE, undo it, why is it best to not listen to them? - too late for that now so it will never go back to the way it was.
Guess they need to update the GS description in the Weekly report in light of Virago's responses.
Who are the Senators and what do they do?
The Galactic Senators are Star Wars Galaxies players that have volunteered to help represent the players of Star Wars Galaxies. They also help the Sony Online Entertainment Development, Community and Customer Service team if they need assistance.
Many Senators carried on their voluntary role from their terms as profession "Correspondents", a program that was disbanded with in publish 25. New Senators have also been appointed after publish 25 by Thunderheart.
Galactic Senators specialise in various different areas of the game and between them they hold extensive knowledge of Star Wars Galaxies.
If you have an issue with the game and are not sure where to turn, chances are a Galactic Senator can help you, or at least point you in the right direction.
You can use the Senator Trackerto view posts written by the Galactic Senators.
Click on any name below to send a Galactic Senator a private message.
This response leads me to believe that they have none, they are just a select few that the devs favor, what ever your definition of favor is.
(why do i get the felling im going to get banned over asking a question , asked two times now as a matter of fact)
The galactic senators where selected because they didn't type in large aggressive font, posted their criticism in a constructive manner, didn't rant and rave like little children, didn't live in the past and continue to want to help improve the game, are really good at finding and duplicating bugs/exploits and the like.
ahhhhhh, but see, i tried that after the NGE hit. So i know that can't be the real reason. My posts were removed, deleted and shuffled away simply because they didn’t agree with the development of the time.
So, let me get this right. People that do not like the development direction are labeled as children (may I add the player base you were going for, by your own admissions) and those that agreed are reworded by forum titles and special forums?
I understand now.
---------- "Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
You know I am glad after reading this again that MMORPG is not kissing thier ass or muffling us.
Saying "Fuck Virrago" does kinda make me feel better and to be able to do it is kind of nice actually.
I wish these people would have a real interview without (Pre-approved) questions or some crap... someone needs to get in there and rip them a new asshole. BUT... a large enough one for all the world to see what kind of people they are.
I think it is safe to say that this is not a company people should do business with, not at all.
______________________________ I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process..... SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
On another note Virrago is being an ******* today. What happened, he get word he losing his job alng with all the other devs? Nice way to talk to your paying customers. They sound just as bad as the duck team which will get no support because of it.
This response leads me to believe that they have none, they are just a select few that the devs favor, what ever your definition of favor is.(why do i get the felling im going to get banned over asking a question , asked two times now as a matter of fact)
The galactic senators where selected because they didn't type in large aggressive font, posted their criticism in a constructive manner, didn't rant and rave like little children, didn't live in the past and continue to want to help improve the game, are really good at finding and duplicating bugs/exploits and the like.
ahhhhhh, but see, i tried that after the NGE hit. So i know that can't be the real reason. My posts were removed, deleted and shuffled away simply because they didn’t agree with the development of the time.
So, let me get this right. People that do not like the development direction are labeled as children (may I add the player base you were going for, by your own admissions) and those that agreed are reworded by forum titles and special forums?
I understand now.
Yeah that makes sense then, there is only about what 15 people like this then?
Yep.... about par for the NGE.
Supporting them is like supporting Korea... sure they make some stuff you need but in the end you never know how much damage they can do.
______________________________ I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process..... SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
Originally posted by KenshuAni This is my favorite quote from Virrago (clicky): Is the NGE working better than they did? - Actually, it isn't as bad as we predicted and now it is much easier to improve upon.
SOE thought that the NGE would be worse than it was?! And they still went forward with it?!!!
Edit: Dang it, Soda beat me to the quote. Wish I wasn't on a dialup when at work
HAHA I saw this... omg.
I think they need a real PR person in there now.
They are saying stuff that can be used as ammo like there is no tommorow.
______________________________ I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process..... SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
Originally posted by Concord7 Guess they need to update the GS description in the Weekly report in light of Virago's responses.
Who are the Senators and what do they do?
The Galactic Senators are Star Wars Galaxies players that have volunteered to help represent the players of Star Wars Galaxies. They also help the Sony Online Entertainment Development, Community and Customer Service team if they need assistance.
Many Senators carried on their voluntary role from their terms as profession "Correspondents", a program that was disbanded with in publish 25. New Senators have also been appointed after publish 25 by Thunderheart.
Galactic Senators specialise in various different areas of the game and between them they hold extensive knowledge of Star Wars Galaxies.
If you have an issue with the game and are not sure where to turn, chances are a Galactic Senator can help you, or at least point you in the right direction.
You can use the Senator Trackerto view posts written by the Galactic Senators.
Click on any name below to send a Galactic Senator a private message.
Good find! Someone should post that for those smug ****suckers.
Originally posted by iskareot Originally posted by KenshuAni This is my favorite quote from Virrago (clicky): Is the NGE working better than they did? - Actually, it isn't as bad as we predicted and now it is much easier to improve upon.
SOE thought that the NGE would be worse than it was?! And they still went forward with it?!!!
Edit: Dang it, Soda beat me to the quote. Wish I wasn't on a dialup when at work
HAHA I saw this... omg.
I think they need a real PR person in there now.
They are saying stuff that can be used as ammo like there is no tommorow.
Heh. I'm tempted to copy and paste all of virrago's comments in that thread, but I am not doing so when having to deal with dialup.
Originally posted by Wildcat84 I'm shocked I haven't been permabanned yet.
I sure stirred up a hornet's nest. Probably because I hurt the senator's widdle egos last night here. I guarantee they were reporting the HELL out of my posts there on this subject.
Why would we? You believe too much into the conspiracy theories...the only thing you truly stirred up was Virrago apparently...and he didn't ban you/vaporize you/send you home in a thousand pieces, close the thread or anything so it was still a discussion (albeit heated).
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You will not find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
LOL what a couple of dumbshits.
I, for one, have an account at the SWG boards...I am just not going to pay them $15 a month to chat with the dregs of the community. Almost everyone that I liked/respected from SWG has completely pulled out now.
Im sure there are plenty of us here with accounts that we could post on over there...We are just smart enough not to pay SOE for the "pleasure".
Love, Sodapop
The MMORPG boards are 5% good discussion, 95% trolls who have been banned from here because they can't express themselves without being a-holes about it.
You will not find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
LOL what a couple of dumbshits.
I, for one, have an account at the SWG boards...I am just not going to pay them $15 a month to chat with the dregs of the community. Almost everyone that I liked/respected from SWG has completely pulled out now.
Im sure there are plenty of us here with accounts that we could post on over there...We are just smart enough not to pay SOE for the "pleasure".
1ST !
/troll
QFE
IBD
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Love, Sodapop
That thread is destined for deletion so I am saving this for future reference:
http://soe.lithium.com/swg/board/message?board.id=swggpdiscussion&message.id=1065217#M1065217
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That's Virrago in yellow. Pretty much confirms what everyone has known.
Love, Sodapop
I sure stirred up a hornet's nest. Probably because I hurt the senator's widdle egos last night here. I guarantee they were reporting the HELL out of my posts there on this subject.
Then they could fire TH, Virrago, and some mods and hire some coding devs.
Love, Sodapop
WOW Now I know why the game is so messed up. Quick - Ask em why they have a private forum and the regular player base can not even view it.
"We continue to improve all aspects of the game." -Virrago
OMGBBQROFLZ!!!
Love, Sodapop
some of them are
So are some of the senators. Badgersmaker and Meatpuppet1987 for two prime examples.
Complete idiots as far as I'm concearned.
______________________________
I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
Yes he did, and im Mr.Bloodworth.
He removed some of my posts and left me this.
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Re: My post.
You were trolling. There is no free speech here. If you do not like our forum rules then you don't have to come here.
and just for the archive...
I’m
sorry, maybe on paper. But in the public eye (you may want to look that
up senator) you do represent SOE in this capacity. You represent them
because you are volunteers, your attitudes, manners or lack there off
reflect direct to that of those that placed you in this position of
responsibility, SOE.
you are unelected officials placed into a public mandate by the government in power.
Government in power = SOE.
You = Public servants
You being placed and not voted upon = Misrepresentation of the publics interests.
Trucegore vonbloodworth,wonderhome
Mayor/guild master
Pikeman, Polition, Merchant,Master Artisan
*****
Im easy to talk to once people get to know me, but holding my personal
audiences on a throne of bloody skulls tends to put them off at first. *****
08-15-2006 01:33 PM
Re: What I want to see from the new senator's
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Virrago wrote:
Your
opinions holds just as much weight as theirs and you are free to
discuss any design changes in the dev discussion forums. There for your
statement is still false.
Sorry, but no.
My
opinions do not matter, as im a VET that was cast aside, and never once
was i offered this position to have a secret forum with direct
interaction with the DEVS.
My opinion was tossed out when the NGE hit unannounced, and with out warning.
My statement is completely true.
"But
in the public eye you do represent SOE in this capacity. You represent
them because you are volunteers, your attitudes, manners or lack there
off reflect direct to that of those that placed you in this position of
responsibility, SOE."
By the very nature of this thread it is true, the PEOPLE are asking for them to be dissolved and there titles striped.
And
you your self have stated they Do not represent the players, or for
that mater have any other responsibility to anyone or anything, yet
they are given the grace of the developers by getting special titles
and with them, accesses to special forums in with they have the ability
to have more direct contact with the developers ...this by itself makes
them in direct influence over the development of the game.
Trucegore vonbloodworth,wonderhome
Mayor/guild master
Pikeman, Polition, Merchant,Master Artisan
*****
Im easy to talk to once people get to know me, but holding my personal
audiences on a throne of bloody skulls tends to put them off at first. *****
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
Well at least we now know they serve us no purpose at all and never did other then to say what SOE wanted and not what we wanted and maybe post some faqs time to time.
I like seeing Virr say this, at least now you can tell any GS to more or less go spit.
You gotta love though the idea that we thought they represented us, they never did as we can see and now know for sure.
Sure it's 9 months to late but hey, now we add this to the lists of "Ha ha we got ya!"..
______________________________
I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
Virrago is pissed! lol
Also, check out this fat lie from him..."Not as bad as they predicted" lol:
Virrago
Community Relations
SOE Forum Usage Guidelines
Player Events
Player Events
Love, Sodapop
This is my favorite quote from Virrago (clicky):
SOE thought that the NGE would be worse than it was?! And they still went forward with it?!!!
Edit: Dang it, Soda beat me to the quote. Wish I wasn't on a dialup when at work
I wish someone would scare this idiot away from the game. he's so annoying. I can't believe carebears like this are allowed to breath on Bloodfin.
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MASTER V is a GOD.... don't mess with him...
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Guess they need to update the GS description in the Weekly report in light of Virago's responses.
Who are the Senators and what do they do?
galactic senators where selected because they didn't type in large
aggressive font, posted their criticism in a constructive manner,
didn't rant and rave like little children, didn't live in the past and
continue to want to help improve the game, are really good at finding
and duplicating bugs/exploits and the like.
ahhhhhh,
but see, i tried that after the NGE hit. So i know that can't be the
real reason. My posts were removed, deleted and shuffled away simply
because they didn’t agree with the development of the time.
So,
let me get this right. People that do not like the development
direction are labeled as children (may I add the player base you were
going for, by your own admissions) and those that agreed are reworded
by forum titles and special forums?
I understand now.
----------
"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
Virrago
Community Relations
SOE Forum Usage Guidelines
Player Events
---------------------------------
You know I am glad after reading this again that MMORPG is not kissing thier ass or muffling us.
Saying "Fuck Virrago" does kinda make me feel better and to be able to do it is kind of nice actually.
I wish these people would have a real interview without (Pre-approved) questions or some crap... someone needs to get in there and rip them a new asshole. BUT... a large enough one for all the world to see what kind of people they are.
I think it is safe to say that this is not a company people should do business with, not at all.
______________________________
I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
ahhhhhh, but see, i tried that after the NGE hit. So i know that can't be the real reason. My posts were removed, deleted and shuffled away simply because they didn’t agree with the development of the time.
So, let me get this right. People that do not like the development direction are labeled as children (may I add the player base you were going for, by your own admissions) and those that agreed are reworded by forum titles and special forums?
I understand now.
Yeah that makes sense then, there is only about what 15 people like this then?
Yep.... about par for the NGE.
Supporting them is like supporting Korea... sure they make some stuff you need but in the end you never know how much damage they can do.
______________________________
I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
SOE thought that the NGE would be worse than it was?! And they still went forward with it?!!!
Edit: Dang it, Soda beat me to the quote. Wish I wasn't on a dialup when at work
HAHA I saw this... omg.
I think they need a real PR person in there now.
They are saying stuff that can be used as ammo like there is no tommorow.
______________________________
I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
Love, Sodapop
SOE thought that the NGE would be worse than it was?! And they still went forward with it?!!!
Edit: Dang it, Soda beat me to the quote. Wish I wasn't on a dialup when at work
HAHA I saw this... omg.
I think they need a real PR person in there now.
They are saying stuff that can be used as ammo like there is no tommorow.
Heh. I'm tempted to copy and paste all of virrago's comments in that thread, but I am not doing so when having to deal with dialup.