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Israel trapped 1.5 million in gaza, starving them.

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  • KooturKootur Member UncommonPosts: 352


    Originally posted by lardmouth
    There is no Palestinian territory.

    Of course not it is all being illegaly occupied along with Jerusalim.
  • ZerogenumZerogenum Member Posts: 391


    Originally posted by Kootur

    Originally posted by lardmouth
    There is no Palestinian territory.
    Of course not it is all being illegaly occupied along with Jerusalim.


    There was no israel until 1948, when the occupation and terror began. Before that it was all palestine. The arguement of no palestinian territory is at best a joke.

    Zerogenum - MixMatched BH Carbineer Template of the Gods, Kettemoor PRE CU SWG.

  • lardmouthlardmouth Member Posts: 701
    Wrong, there is no Palestinian territory because there was no nation called palestine to take the land from.  Read up on the six day war.  You'll see which nations lost land. 
  • ZerogenumZerogenum Member Posts: 391


    Originally posted by lardmouth
    Wrong, there is no Palestinian territory because there was no nation called palestine to take the land from.  Read up on the six day war.  You'll see which nations lost land. 

    The 6 day war is an Israeli war of aggression. In your scenario Germany should retain all of europe since it truly won it.

    Before that war israel attacked the USS liberty in an attempt to blame it on egypt and get the US involved in the 6 day war. Which is called false flagging, which violates international law.....again.

    Like i said before, Before 1948 there was no israel and it was all called Palestine.

    Zerogenum - MixMatched BH Carbineer Template of the Gods, Kettemoor PRE CU SWG.

  • DraenorDraenor Member UncommonPosts: 7,918


    Originally posted by Kootur

    Originally posted by hazmats

    all hamas needs to do is return the soldier.

    It doesn't work that way. Israel need to stop this collective punishment nonsense.

    God forbid a country defend itself...people like you would rather that a country just roll over when aggressive acts are perpetrated on them...collective punishment?  Hezbola, a political party of Syria, attacked Israel...Israel attacks Syria because that is the country that Hezbola represents...collective punishment?  no.  You are trying to assert that Israel is purposely attacking towns indescriminately.  Something that you really know nothing about and probably wouldn't care if you did because you are so dead set on not supporting the country because George Bush does...and whatever George Bush does is evil right?  Yeah, I thought so.

    So let me ask you...if Canada or Mexico decided that they are going to kidnap some of our troops...we should do nothing about it?  hmmmm let's think for a second shall we?

    Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.

  • KooturKootur Member UncommonPosts: 352


    Originally posted by lardmouth
    Wrong, there is no Palestinian territory because there was no nation called palestine to take the land from.  Read up on the six day war.  You'll see which nations lost land. 

    There was no Israel 60 years ago either.
  • KooturKootur Member UncommonPosts: 352


    Originally posted by Zerogenum

    Originally posted by Kootur

    Originally posted by lardmouth
    There is no Palestinian territory.
    Of course not it is all being illegaly occupied along with Jerusalim.


    There was no israel until 1948, when the occupation and terror began. Before that it was all palestine. The arguement of no palestinian territory is at best a joke.

    I know what you mean. I just always get a kick out of the Zionists and their apologists. They act like Israel has been around for hundreds of years and that the Palestinians came out of nowhere. The land that palestinians want does not belong to Israel (Gaza Strip and the West Bank) Even if you don't think its Palestinian at least admit that it belongs to Jordan and Egypt.
  • lardmouthlardmouth Member Posts: 701


    Originally posted by Zerogenum

    Originally posted by Kootur

    Originally posted by lardmouth
    There is no Palestinian territory.
    Of course not it is all being illegaly occupied along with Jerusalim.


    There was no israel until 1948, when the occupation and terror began. Before that it was all palestine. The arguement of no palestinian territory is at best a joke.

    Uh, there was a Jewish nation loooong before the first muslim walked the earth.  It is due to a series of occupations (want to talk about occupations?) that it took until 1948 for Israel to have their own soveirgn nation again.  While palestine has never been anything more than a region.  If you want to talk about regions...well hell, a bunch of arab/muslims have nations that are occupying palestinian lands then.
  • ZerogenumZerogenum Member Posts: 391


    Originally posted by Draenor

    Originally posted by Kootur

    Originally posted by hazmats

    all hamas needs to do is return the soldier.

    It doesn't work that way. Israel need to stop this collective punishment nonsense.

    God forbid a country defend itself...people like you would rather that a country just roll over when aggressive acts are perpetrated on them...collective punishment?  Hezbola, a political party of Syria, attacked Israel...Israel attacks Syria because that is the country that Hezbola represents...collective punishment?  no.  You are trying to assert that Israel is purposely attacking towns indescriminately.  Something that you really know nothing about and probably wouldn't care if you did because you are so dead set on not supporting the country because George Bush does...and whatever George Bush does is evil right?  Yeah, I thought so.

    So let me ask you...if Canada or Mexico decided that they are going to kidnap some of our troops...we should do nothing about it?  hmmmm let's think for a second shall we?


    You really believe that they are defending themselves by bombing familes on beaches, ambulances, hospitals, schools, CHURCHES (thats right churches not mosques most of the bombing was on the christian sector of south lebanon). bombing fleeing civilians in cars. 23 of the deaths were women and children it was written.

    Defending themselves?

    George bush Took my vote for him then sold it to mexico and israel. As illegal aliens right this minute are in DC marching for rights they don't have and are not even questioned by the police.

    He says the economy is great yet the debt just hit 49 trillion. an average of $350,000 per taxpayer. Doubling the debt in only 5 years time.

    Israel bombed and attacked the USS Liberty, using torpedo boats to machine gun life boats (Violation of international law), even though it flew 2 american flags (The first one was shot to pieces).


    These same people run the media and hide all of this from the american sheeple.

    Zerogenum - MixMatched BH Carbineer Template of the Gods, Kettemoor PRE CU SWG.

  • KooturKootur Member UncommonPosts: 352


    Originally posted by Draenor

    Originally posted by Kootur

    Originally posted by hazmats

    all hamas needs to do is return the soldier.

    It doesn't work that way. Israel need to stop this collective punishment nonsense.

    God forbid a country defend itself...people like you would rather that a country just roll over when aggressive acts are perpetrated on them...collective punishment?  Hezbola, a political party of Syria, attacked Israel...Israel attacks Syria because that is the country that Hezbola represents...collective punishment?  no.  You are trying to assert that Israel is purposely attacking towns indescriminately.  Something that you really know nothing about and probably wouldn't care if you did because you are so dead set on not supporting the country because George Bush does...and whatever George Bush does is evil right?  Yeah, I thought so.

    So let me ask you...if Canada or Mexico decided that they are going to kidnap some of our troops...we should do nothing about it?  hmmmm let's think for a second shall we?


    You have no idea what you are talking about. First of all collective punishment is when 1 man does something israel attacks hundreds of of other people in retaliation. None of them are related or knew of the 1 man who attacked israel.

    YOur second point shows your ignorance of the whole situation. Hezobollah is a part of Lebannon not Syria and Israel didn't attack Syria it attacked Lebabnon.

    And geroge w bush has nothing to do with anything. You are making a strawman argument showing that really know nothing of what you speak.

  • KooturKootur Member UncommonPosts: 352


    Originally posted by lardmouth

    Originally posted by Zerogenum

    Originally posted by Kootur

    Originally posted by lardmouth
    There is no Palestinian territory.
    Of course not it is all being illegaly occupied along with Jerusalim.


    There was no israel until 1948, when the occupation and terror began. Before that it was all palestine. The arguement of no palestinian territory is at best a joke.

    Uh, there was a Jewish nation loooong before the first muslim walked the earth.  It is due to a series of occupations (want to talk about occupations?) that it took until 1948 for Israel to have their own soveirgn nation again.  While palestine has never been anything more than a region.  If you want to talk about regions...well hell, a bunch of arab/muslims have nations that are occupying palestinian lands then.


    You are being unrealitic in your thinking. Israel hadn't existed for thousands of years yet in 1948 all of a sudden they are supposed to get back all their land just like that?
  • AnofalyeAnofalye Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,433


    Originally posted by Kootur

    Originally posted by lardmouth
    Wrong, there is no Palestinian territory because there was no nation called palestine to take the land from.  Read up on the six day war.  You'll see which nations lost land. 
    There was no Israel 60 years ago either.


    And there was no muslim country 1400 years ago, it was a Jewish country.  The Ottoman Empire did take someone else land in case you didn't figure that out.

    Israel give Gaza a country (they didn't have to), they help them developp.  Gaza in turn spread the Israel hatred and aim for conflict.  It is Gaza responsability if they want peace with their neighbor to find a peaceful and adequate solution.

    Israel has the military might, yet they are always peacefully trying to find a solution with their neighbors.  Israel is a LOT better than I would be, if I would be in their situation, I can tell you it would have been FAR more deadly.  An irrational smaller faction always asking for conflict...I would just have crush it.  But no, Israel try to find a peaceful solution...maybe Gaza and all these factions should listen to Israel goodwill, because eventually, it might turn sour and unaccessible...and that day it would be a bloody day indeed.

    - "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren

  • lardmouthlardmouth Member Posts: 701


    Originally posted by Kootur
    I know what you mean. I just always get a kick out of the Zionists and their apologists. They act like Israel has been around for hundreds of years and that the Palestinians came out of nowhere. The land that palestinians want does not belong to Israel (Gaza Strip and the West Bank) Even if you don't think its Palestinian at least admit that it belongs to Jordan and Egypt.


    Well, you seem to be admitting that Israel didn't occupy some nation named Palestine's land.  As you said, they occupied Jordanian and Egyptian land.  Strategic land by the way.  After what, the third war with multiple nations against them?  Perhaps Egypt should be the one taking land back and agreeing to dismantle militant groups in exchange.  I wonder if Egypt would agree to that?  Or, do they not want their land back?  Hmmm. After all, if as you seem to agree, they're occupying Egypt's land, and if they don't want it back.....
  • lardmouthlardmouth Member Posts: 701


    Originally posted by Kootur
    You are being unrealitic in your thinking. Israel hadn't existed for thousands of years yet in 1948 all of a sudden they are supposed to get back all their land just like that?



    Umm, why shouldn't they if they fought back to reclaim it after the removal of occupation?  That's a hell of a lot better claim then by those of a Nation that has NEVER existed.
  • KooturKootur Member UncommonPosts: 352


    Originally posted by lardmouth

    Originally posted by Kootur
    I know what you mean. I just always get a kick out of the Zionists and their apologists. They act like Israel has been around for hundreds of years and that the Palestinians came out of nowhere. The land that palestinians want does not belong to Israel (Gaza Strip and the West Bank) Even if you don't think its Palestinian at least admit that it belongs to Jordan and Egypt.


    Well, you seem to be admitting that Israel didn't occupy some nation named Palestine's land.  As you said, they occupied Jordanian and Egyptian land.  Strategic land by the way.  After what, the third war with multiple nations against them?  Perhaps Egypt should be the one taking land back and agreeing to dismantle militant groups in exchange.  I wonder if Egypt would agree to that?  Or, do they not want their land back?  Hmmm. After all, if as you seem to agree, they're occupying Egypt's land, and if they don't want it back.....


    Nice try but when you like at the UN mandate in 1948 you will see that part of what is israel that was NOT taken from jordan or Egypt was part of Palistine. Israel drove them into what is now the westbank and the Gaza Strip.
  • ZerogenumZerogenum Member Posts: 391


    Originally posted by lardmouth

    Originally posted by Kootur
    I know what you mean. I just always get a kick out of the Zionists and their apologists. They act like Israel has been around for hundreds of years and that the Palestinians came out of nowhere. The land that palestinians want does not belong to Israel (Gaza Strip and the West Bank) Even if you don't think its Palestinian at least admit that it belongs to Jordan and Egypt.


    Well, you seem to be admitting that Israel didn't occupy some nation named Palestine's land.  As you said, they occupied Jordanian and Egyptian land.  Strategic land by the way.  After what, the third war with multiple nations against them?  Perhaps Egypt should be the one taking land back and agreeing to dismantle militant groups in exchange.  I wonder if Egypt would agree to that?  Or, do they not want their land back?  Hmmm. After all, if as you seem to agree, they're occupying Egypt's land, and if they don't want it back.....


    He didnt admit anything spinner. he said the land they WANT. And since israel obviously wont give up their position as the sole nuclear power in the middle east maybe they after all these decades just want to settle with gaza and whats left of lebanon and palestine. But no, israel loves kicking them when they are down while at the same time saying they're the victims while rolling tanks and flying planes into third world nations.

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  • AnofalyeAnofalye Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,433


    Originally posted by Kootur

    You have no idea what you are talking about. First of all collective punishment is when 1 man does something israel attacks hundreds of of other people in retaliation. None of them are related or knew of the 1 man who attacked israel.



    But these 1 man, they are encouraged, developped and spread by the place Israel attack back.  If I raise a dog to kill all black men, do you hate the dog or the guy who raise the dog?

    Now if all my village praise these dogs who attack black men and protect me, how do you behave?  Yes the village is going to have to either stop me or be treated as me.

    A community is responsible for it individuals when it encourage them and spread it.  These 1 man actions are not irrational and sporadic actions taken by madmen, they are encouraged by these communities, thereby these communities deserve to face the consequences.

    - "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren

  • ZerogenumZerogenum Member Posts: 391


    Originally posted by Anofalye

    Originally posted by Kootur

    You have no idea what you are talking about. First of all collective punishment is when 1 man does something israel attacks hundreds of of other people in retaliation. None of them are related or knew of the 1 man who attacked israel.


    But these 1 man, they are encouraged, developped and spread by the place Israel attack back.  If I raise a dog to kill all black men, do you hate the dog or the guy who raise the dog?

    Now if all my village praise these dogs who attack black men and protect me, how do you behave?  Yes the village is going to have to either stop me or be treated as me.

    A community is responsible for it individuals when it encourage them and spread it.  These 1 man actions are not irrational and sporadic actions taken by madmen, they are encouraged by these communities, thereby these communities deserve to face the consequences.



    That same arguement about the mistreatment of jews by nazis calling it Military Necessity didnt work for the nazis. Why should the arguement that didnt win at nuremberg work for Israel. This "Communal Punishment" which is just another military tactic of communism. It wins no hearts no minds. It breeds resistance.

    There is no such thing as Terrorism there is only guerilla warfare. Terrorism is for the sheeple to label the side the media wants us to think is the enemy.

    Zerogenum - MixMatched BH Carbineer Template of the Gods, Kettemoor PRE CU SWG.

  • lardmouthlardmouth Member Posts: 701


    Originally posted by Kootur
    Nice try but when you like at the UN mandate in 1948 you will see that part of what is israel that was NOT taken from jordan or Egypt was part of Palistine. Israel drove them into what is now the westbank and the Gaza Strip.


    Nice try, but the mandate was thrown to the swine when Arab/muslim nations sought to wipe out the MANDATED Israel nation twice and then had been massing troops yet again (and disrupting Israeli trade).  Yeah, after that third time I reckon Israel did decide to occupy strategic land that had been used very well against them by, oh for examplem Jordan and Egypt.  Got to go to work.  But does Egypt, for example, (the only nation with a rightful claim, want that land back?  If not....
  • KooturKootur Member UncommonPosts: 352


    Originally posted by lardmouth

    Originally posted by Kootur
    Nice try but when you like at the UN mandate in 1948 you will see that part of what is israel that was NOT taken from jordan or Egypt was part of Palistine. Israel drove them into what is now the westbank and the Gaza Strip.


    Nice try, but the mandate was thrown to the swine when Arab/muslim nations sought to wipe out the MANDATED Israel nation twice and then had been massing troops yet again (and disrupting Israeli trade).  Yeah, after that third time I reckon Israel did decide to occupy strategic land that had been used very well against them by, oh for examplem Jordan and Egypt.  Got to go to work.  But does Egypt, for example, (the only nation with a rightful claim, want that land back?  If not....

    Actually the Mandate wasn't throw out after the war if it had Israel wouldn't be legally allowed to exist.
  • ZerogenumZerogenum Member Posts: 391


    Originally posted by Kootur

    Originally posted by lardmouth

    Originally posted by Kootur
    Nice try but when you like at the UN mandate in 1948 you will see that part of what is israel that was NOT taken from jordan or Egypt was part of Palistine. Israel drove them into what is now the westbank and the Gaza Strip.


    Nice try, but the mandate was thrown to the swine when Arab/muslim nations sought to wipe out the MANDATED Israel nation twice and then had been massing troops yet again (and disrupting Israeli trade).  Yeah, after that third time I reckon Israel did decide to occupy strategic land that had been used very well against them by, oh for examplem Jordan and Egypt.  Got to go to work.  But does Egypt, for example, (the only nation with a rightful claim, want that land back?  If not....

    Actually the Mandate wasn't throw out after the war if it had Israel wouldn't be legally allowed to exist.


    Owned, and nice.

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  • thepkerthepker Member Posts: 192

    israeli citizen's view: hamas is throwing rockets at us here at haifa with suicide bombers, *turns on whatever channels they have there* Hamas has killed 2 israeli's at X, Fucking hamas..

    palestinian's view: turns on Al Jazeera radio, israeli commandos has stormed a building, killing 5 palistinians, Fucking israelis

    my point: media is destroying the world!

    this just made me cry

     http://www.inminds.co.uk/boycott-arsenal.html

    killing kids playing football, thats fucking low..

    I dont think anyone in hamas EVER killed israeli children playing football

    I think old ehud should ignore lebanon for the present just like sharon did... because what happened in Lebanon, was planned, and I dont think he ever gave a s*** for the 2 soldiers there, put it this way

    send 1 tank with I dunno how many soldiers inside into somewhere in Lebanon, hezbollah WILL try and destroy it there.... they took hostages to free the people STILL imprisoned in israel, which brings me to my next topic

    the geneva convention states that prisoners-of-war be treated in a human way, israel+US has REPEATDLY broken the convention, whereas hezbollah never has...

    the ONLY terrorists on earth are (still remaining)

    the mossad

    al-qaeda

    the bush government

  • ZerogenumZerogenum Member Posts: 391
    You're missing 2 entities on the terrorists list.


    American Media

    European Media

    Its all the same and none of it is american or european.

    Zerogenum - MixMatched BH Carbineer Template of the Gods, Kettemoor PRE CU SWG.

  • abbabaabbaba Member Posts: 1,143


    Originally posted by Zerogenum

    Originally posted by Anofalye

    Originally posted by Kootur

    You have no idea what you are talking about. First of all collective punishment is when 1 man does something israel attacks hundreds of of other people in retaliation. None of them are related or knew of the 1 man who attacked israel.


    But these 1 man, they are encouraged, developped and spread by the place Israel attack back.  If I raise a dog to kill all black men, do you hate the dog or the guy who raise the dog?

    Now if all my village praise these dogs who attack black men and protect me, how do you behave?  Yes the village is going to have to either stop me or be treated as me.

    A community is responsible for it individuals when it encourage them and spread it.  These 1 man actions are not irrational and sporadic actions taken by madmen, they are encouraged by these communities, thereby these communities deserve to face the consequences.




    There is no such thing as Terrorism there is only guerilla warfare. Terrorism is for the sheeple to label the side the media wants us to think is the enemy.

    terrorism? Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ter-uh-riz-uhm] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation

    –noun

    1. the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, esp. for political purposes.

    2. the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization.


    Main Entry:  

    guerilla warfare
    Part of Speech:   noun
    Definition:   sudden unexpected attacks carried out by an unofficial military group or groups that are trying to change the government by assaults on the armed forces



  • thepkerthepker Member Posts: 192
    actually, all but true media is terrorist so yeah your right, but its hard to find out which is true and which isnt
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