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  • lightmmorpglightmmorpg Member Posts: 23

    life is so much better when there are females around.....

    to kill

  • Azure77Azure77 Member Posts: 355

      I m male and I ll being making the black hair chick from the video O.o

           I really think the female dwarves should look like the ones in Lineage 2 .. they are so adorable!

  • GrumpyDwarfGrumpyDwarf Member Posts: 36

    The L2 dwarf females were nothing short of lolis...  Grumpy old dwarves and little girls, that very image greatly disturbed me.

    As for the one who said people playing a character of the opposite gender gross him out, you need to take a chill pill.

    Seriously the only people who care about the gender of characters vs the one playing them are those who tend to flirt with the first female toon they meet.  MMORPGs aren't online bars, they're roleplaying games where the only limit is your imagination.  It's not their fault if you cannot fathom why people would like to play something different than their real life counterpart.

  • BabbuunBabbuun Member Posts: 333


    Originally posted by GrumpyDwarf

    The L2 dwarf females were nothing short of lolis...  Grumpy old dwarves and little girls, that very image greatly disturbed me.

    As for the one who said people playing a character of the opposite gender gross him out, you need to take a chill pill.

    Seriously the only people who care about the gender of characters vs the one playing them are those who tend to flirt with the first female toon they meet.  MMORPGs aren't online bars, they're roleplaying games where the only limit is your imagination.  It's not their fault if you cannot fathom why people would like to play something different than their real life counterpart.


    I don't care who playes the female toons, I just don't want there to be many. Feels kind of odd when every enemy you slay on the battlefield happens to look like Heidi Klum except sluttier. Immersion is in my opinion the most important aspect of a game. If the lore and atmosphere are CBA quality, excellent gameplay may be wasted since nobody buys the game.

    If they go lorelolling all over the place like WoW, count me out of the WAR bandwagon. The women have to look like they could actually go to war (she-hulkish humans & chaos (at least for warriors), near-male looking dwarfs, and... elves are elves). This is just how the Warhammer world is depicted. Anything less would be less warhammer.

    Also I dislike the kind of women/men that go around saying "I'm a gurl, I'm a gurl IRL, please help me". I don't care, it's a game. I know mature female players that play male toons, I know mature female players that play female toons, I know mature male players that play female toons and I know mature male players that play male toons. None of the aforementioned have been hit on by me, and neither have the immature ones .

    I don't get why people have to hold on to the "i'd rather have a game with no atmosphere and elven buttocks and boobies bouncing around in skimpy outfits" mentality. Games are not Hooters either, and Hooters has a bar.

    Just try to grasp the female quota thing from an immersion perspective.
  • TiredNimbusTiredNimbus Member Posts: 21


    Originally posted by mjkittredge
    I heard that Orcs (and possibly goblins, & dwarves) will not have female characters. Are there any other races where you won't get to make a female? And what is the reaction from females, or just anybody who would prefer to make a female character? I know, female orcs and dwarves would be gross, but how the hell do these races pro-create? The only female I know of is the Dark Elf one in the movie. So dark elves get females, probably humans and high elves too, any others?

    Well I dont know about the other, but orcs drop spores which grow into new orcs...
    But it wasnt always like that
    It used to be after 4 years of active orc service, they can no longer resist the urge to "go off lukin for somefink"...
  • ValentinaValentina Member RarePosts: 2,109
    As a female gamer, I would be annoyed if I couldn't make a orc or goblin, or even dwarven female, but at the same time....if it doesn't fit lore than it makes sense (even though there are female dwarves and goblins in warhammer)


    I'm pretty sure there will be female options for EVERY race except orc's and possibly goblins (at first).

    This is subject to change in future game updates, though, and they haven't released alot of information yet on that subject, so for all we know there are females for everythign (uncluding the listed races in question)


  • Distortion0Distortion0 Member Posts: 668


    Originally posted by Valentina
    As a female gamer, I would be annoyed if I couldn't make a orc or goblin, or even dwarven female, but at the same time....if it doesn't fit lore than it makes sense (even though there are female dwarves and goblins in warhammer)


    I'm pretty sure there will be female options for EVERY race except orc's and possibly goblins (at first).

    This is subject to change in future game updates, though, and they haven't released alot of information yet on that subject, so for all we know there are females for everythign (uncluding the listed races in question)



    Who says you can't play an Orc just because they don't have a gender? They aren't really male either, you know. Orcs and Goblins are Orcs and Goblins, there's no sexuality about them.

    It's like me say I can't play a troll or an elemental because it's not male.

  • WolfjunkieWolfjunkie Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 985


    Originally posted by Valentina
    As a female gamer, I would be annoyed if I couldn't make a orc or goblin, or even dwarven female, but at the same time....if it doesn't fit lore than it makes sense (even though there are female dwarves and goblins in warhammer)


    I'm pretty sure there will be female options for EVERY race except orc's and possibly goblins (at first).

    This is subject to change in future game updates, though, and they haven't released alot of information yet on that subject, so for all we know there are females for everythign (uncluding the listed races in question)




    Why exactly would it annoy you? just curious. As a male, i don't feel strongly for playing one sex or another. Sure, having female the only option avaible for dark elfs would ruin the immersion a bit, but it wouldn't exactly annoy me.
  • Azure77Azure77 Member Posts: 355


    Originally posted by Babbuun

    Originally posted by GrumpyDwarf

    The L2 dwarf females were nothing short of lolis...  Grumpy old dwarves and little girls, that very image greatly disturbed me.

    As for the one who said people playing a character of the opposite gender gross him out, you need to take a chill pill.

    Seriously the only people who care about the gender of characters vs the one playing them are those who tend to flirt with the first female toon they meet.  MMORPGs aren't online bars, they're roleplaying games where the only limit is your imagination.  It's not their fault if you cannot fathom why people would like to play something different than their real life counterpart.

    I don't care who playes the female toons, I just don't want there to be many. Feels kind of odd when every enemy you slay on the battlefield happens to look like Heidi Klum except sluttier. Immersion is in my opinion the most important aspect of a game. If the lore and atmosphere are CBA quality, excellent gameplay may be wasted since nobody buys the game.

    If they go lorelolling all over the place like WoW, count me out of the WAR bandwagon. The women have to look like they could actually go to war (she-hulkish humans & chaos (at least for warriors), near-male looking dwarfs, and... elves are elves). This is just how the Warhammer world is depicted. Anything less would be less warhammer.

    Also I dislike the kind of women/men that go around saying "I'm a gurl, I'm a gurl IRL, please help me". I don't care, it's a game. I know mature female players that play male toons, I know mature female players that play female toons, I know mature male players that play female toons and I know mature male players that play male toons. None of the aforementioned have been hit on by me, and neither have the immature ones .

    I don't get why people have to hold on to the "i'd rather have a game with no atmosphere and elven buttocks and boobies bouncing around in skimpy outfits" mentality. Games are not Hooters either, and Hooters has a bar.

    Just try to grasp the female quota thing from an immersion perspective.



       I base my decision to play a race on 2 things 1) How hot and how skimpy are the women in armor 2) Is there summoning or pets system.

          I like sexy characters , its more fun to be a sexy tank in a skimpy outfit than it is to be a Orc , or whatever. As time goes by the animations become more and more defined , you see things like moving parts akin to Dead or Alive .. breathing and such.

         If I m gonna put my money into a MMORPG, I just would rather spend the time as a hot babe then a male body builder .. or WWF want to be.

       99% of MMORPGs , the men look gay beyond the belief .. They normally run , and walk like a unmanly manner , and look terrible in armor. Women on the other had have been created as pleasing to the eyes , well design armor , and they typically have better run/walk animation. In Manga games they typically have better weapon animations (US is starting to make female weapon animations more appealing as well.)

  • VipexxVipexx Member Posts: 114
    There's better places to find porn than in an MMO. And while I play, I rather focus on playing than wanking to my character. Yeah, the purpose of an RPG is to play an alternative role to your real life, so if that's what you want, go ahead.. I'll stick to my male characters. Thats my opinion atleast..

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  • Distortion0Distortion0 Member Posts: 668


    Originally posted by Azure77

    Originally posted by Babbuun

    Originally posted by GrumpyDwarf

    The L2 dwarf females were nothing short of lolis...  Grumpy old dwarves and little girls, that very image greatly disturbed me.

    As for the one who said people playing a character of the opposite gender gross him out, you need to take a chill pill.

    Seriously the only people who care about the gender of characters vs the one playing them are those who tend to flirt with the first female toon they meet.  MMORPGs aren't online bars, they're roleplaying games where the only limit is your imagination.  It's not their fault if you cannot fathom why people would like to play something different than their real life counterpart.

    I don't care who playes the female toons, I just don't want there to be many. Feels kind of odd when every enemy you slay on the battlefield happens to look like Heidi Klum except sluttier. Immersion is in my opinion the most important aspect of a game. If the lore and atmosphere are CBA quality, excellent gameplay may be wasted since nobody buys the game.

    If they go lorelolling all over the place like WoW, count me out of the WAR bandwagon. The women have to look like they could actually go to war (she-hulkish humans & chaos (at least for warriors), near-male looking dwarfs, and... elves are elves). This is just how the Warhammer world is depicted. Anything less would be less warhammer.

    Also I dislike the kind of women/men that go around saying "I'm a gurl, I'm a gurl IRL, please help me". I don't care, it's a game. I know mature female players that play male toons, I know mature female players that play female toons, I know mature male players that play female toons and I know mature male players that play male toons. None of the aforementioned have been hit on by me, and neither have the immature ones .

    I don't get why people have to hold on to the "i'd rather have a game with no atmosphere and elven buttocks and boobies bouncing around in skimpy outfits" mentality. Games are not Hooters either, and Hooters has a bar.

    Just try to grasp the female quota thing from an immersion perspective.



       I base my decision to play a race on 2 things 1) How hot and how skimpy are the women in armor 2) Is there summoning or pets system.

          I like sexy characters , its more fun to be a sexy tank in a skimpy outfit than it is to be a Orc , or whatever. As time goes by the animations become more and more defined , you see things like moving parts akin to Dead or Alive .. breathing and such.

         If I m gonna put my money into a MMORPG, I just would rather spend the time as a hot babe then a male body builder .. or WWF want to be.

       99% of MMORPGs , the men look gay beyond the belief .. They normally run , and walk like a unmanly manner , and look terrible in armor. Women on the other had have been created as pleasing to the eyes , well design armor , and they typically have better run/walk animation. In Manga games they typically have better weapon animations (US is starting to make female weapon animations more appealing as well.)


    Then play an Elf. Orcs aren't there to be cute or pretty, they're disgusting and feral and that's why they are loved.

    Elves are the graceful ones and always have been in fantasy since Tolken, maybe even before. And besides, you already seem a bit full of yourself(no offence intended), you'de be perfect as an Elf!

  • VipexxVipexx Member Posts: 114


    Originally posted by Valentina
    As a female gamer, I would be annoyed if I couldn't make a orc or goblin, or even dwarven female, but at the same time....if it doesn't fit lore than it makes sense (even though there are female dwarves and goblins in warhammer)


    I'm pretty sure there will be female options for EVERY race except orc's and possibly goblins (at first).

    This is subject to change in future game updates, though, and they haven't released alot of information yet on that subject, so for all we know there are females for everythign (uncluding the listed races in question)




    Should I get annoyed if I couldn't make a male orc? It doesn't make sense. If you didn't bother reading the other pages, there is no boy orcs, there is no girl orcs, there's only orcs, so they're kind of both female and male, yet none at the same time. Yes, they're masculine in theyr looks, why? Because they're war machines, not porn stars. And it's not subjet to change, I hope. The dwarves is an other story..

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  • BabbuunBabbuun Member Posts: 333


    Originally posted by Azure77


       I base my decision to play a race on 2 things 1) How hot and how skimpy are the women in armor 2) Is there summoning or pets system.

          I like sexy characters , its more fun to be a sexy tank in a skimpy outfit than it is to be a Orc , or whatever. As time goes by the animations become more and more defined , you see things like moving parts akin to Dead or Alive .. breathing and such.

         If I m gonna put my money into a MMORPG, I just would rather spend the time as a hot babe then a male body builder .. or WWF want to be.

       99% of MMORPGs , the men look gay beyond the belief .. They normally run , and walk like a unmanly manner , and look terrible in armor. Women on the other had have been created as pleasing to the eyes , well design armor , and they typically have better run/walk animation. In Manga games they typically have better weapon animations (US is starting to make female weapon animations more appealing as well.)


    You're correct in the fact that the men shouldn't look like Arnold Schwarzenegger or Fabio. They should look a bit on the athletic side, but not like body-builders. Simply put, a body builder could not endure an hour-long battle since his body is toned to lifting much with few repeats, and his muscles weigh a ton-> he wastes a lot of energy and runs out.

    Females looking like Jenna Jameson is what I dislike. If a "human" female went to war, she would have to have had her body attoned to the kind of stress that wearing armor and carrying a sword around would create. The manga-style enormous fallic swords on near-anorectic big-bosomed women may have fit lineage 2. I think WoW was actually going in the right direction on the female looks. The women looked more normal(although due to the creation system, like clones), and perhaps even strong enough to lift some of the weapons they wielded. Because it was cartoon-styled, there were huge mangaesque weapons as well that the male toons wouldn't have been able to wield either.

    Now I know Warhammer is not supposed to be realistic. However the laws of combat are built very much on the physics and norms of real life(you get hit once, you die unless you're a real veteran or somehow gifted or a bigass monster). Of course the MMO already changes the fatalistic realism of the one clean blow, one clean kill mentality, but just because that has been run over, doesn't mean everything else has to be as well. There are a lot of pictures of naked women and scantily clad ones going about, this is the internets after all. Make a custom UI with pictures of random naked women if you really play from that perspective.
  • M1sf1tM1sf1t Member UncommonPosts: 1,583
    You won't see Skaven females either....Lore says ( if you read any of the official GW books ) they are as dumb as a rock and are rare and used as breeders only. Most Skaven males rarely if ever get a chance to mate and certianly very few if any other races have seen a Skaven female.

    So no Greenskin females because Greenskins are genderless.

    and no Skaven female PC's because Skaven females are seen as just about on par with if not slightly higher then slaves. You also will not see any Dark Elf male casters because it goes against lore. Sure their might be a rare renegaed DE male caster but they are rare and are hunted down and killed usually by other DE's.


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  • Distortion0Distortion0 Member Posts: 668


    Originally posted by M1sf1t
    You won't see Skaven females either....Lore says ( if you read any of the official GW books ) they are as dumb as a rock and are rare and used as breeders only. Most Skaven males rarely if ever get a chance to mate and certianly very few if any other races have seen a Skaven female.

    So no Greenskin females because Greenskins are genderless.

    and no Skaven female PC's because Skaven females are seen as just about on par with if not slightly higher then slaves. You also will not see any Dark Elf male casters because it goes against lore. Sure their might be a rare renegaed DE male caster but they are rare and are hunted down and killed usually by other DE's.


    Well, I don't know about Skaven because we haven't seen them yet(just some of their buildings and banners) but you are definitely wrong about Dark Elf Casters. They were confirmed in via one of the grab bags(at least, I think that was the source).

    As for the lore about female skaven: there are amazons for humans in cultures that peg women as stupid and weak. Why not, amazon skaven?

  • XanrnXanrn Member Posts: 154


    Originally posted by M1sf1t 

    You also will not see any Dark Elf male casters because it goes against lore. Sure their might be a rare renegaed DE male caster but they are rare and are hunted down and killed usually by other DE's.




    Well except Malekith but then being King does have its benefits.  

    Human Females, well besides from Wizards and Warriors Nuns. Can't remember any.

    Chaos, well who knows, can't tell under that armour and after all thos mutations.

    Elves and Dwarves believe in gender equality.
  • PantasticPantastic Member Posts: 1,204


    Originally posted
    I know, female orcs and dwarves would be gross, but how the hell do these races pro-create?

    Orcs are a kind of fungus, they reproduce by releasing spores that grow into more orcs, it's been part of the fluff for years. There's absolutley zero chance that GW will let a game using their name include female orcs.

  • CowinspaceCowinspace Member Posts: 671


    Originally posted by Pantastic


    Originally posted
    I know, female orcs and dwarves would be gross, but how the hell do these races pro-create?


    Orcs are a kind of fungus, they reproduce by releasing spores that grow into more orcs, it's been part of the fluff for years. There's absolutley zero chance that GW will let a game using their name include female orcs.


    When Orcs get all Waaarrgghh'd up during a battle they shed spores. As said already, these then grow into new Orcs. Its what makes their race so resilient, the more you fight them, the more Orcs there are.

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  • PurgatosPurgatos Member Posts: 3
    Wait, why are well still talking about the greenskins? Wasn't it already determined that orcs are grown from spores and if you want more background just head down to a GW store or the GW site.

    Anyways, instead of arguing over females in races, wouldn't gender specific classes be more of an issue? I think male DE Witch elves would be kinda creepy...

    I figured I'd throw this in, are the humans going to include Bretonnia or is it strictly empire?
  • MuraisMurais Member UncommonPosts: 1,118


    Originally posted by Purgatos
    Wait, why are well still talking about the greenskins? Wasn't it already determined that orcs are grown from spores and if you want more background just head down to a GW store or the GW site.

    Anyways, instead of arguing over females in races, wouldn't gender specific classes be more of an issue? I think male DE Witch elves would be kinda creepy...

    I figured I'd throw this in, are the humans going to include Bretonnia or is it strictly empire?


       
    It's Empire humans only, that's why the faction is called Empire in the game, people just refer to it as humans overall.

        Well, there's Chaos humans technically, but that's a whole 'nother ball game as you know.
  • brostynbrostyn Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,092
    Orcs are not male or female. They do not possess a penis, or a vagina.  Orcs have no gender. Get it? Good.
  • MorskittarMorskittar Member Posts: 67


    Originally posted by Murais

    Originally posted by Purgatos
    Wait, why are well still talking about the greenskins? Wasn't it already determined that orcs are grown from spores and if you want more background just head down to a GW store or the GW site.

    Anyways, instead of arguing over females in races, wouldn't gender specific classes be more of an issue? I think male DE Witch elves would be kinda creepy...

    I figured I'd throw this in, are the humans going to include Bretonnia or is it strictly empire?

       
    It's Empire humans only, that's why the faction is called Empire in the game, people just refer to it as humans overall.

        Well, there's Chaos humans technically, but that's a whole 'nother ball game as you know.


    Warhammer tends to be divided by nation, rather than race.  Rather than "humans" you have Bretonnians, Imperials, Tileans, Estalians, Kislevites, and Arabyans; Asur, Druchii, and Asrai rather than "elves"; and even dwarfs tend to gather by clan and king.

    Not like your typical fantasy setting in that respect.
  • BabbuunBabbuun Member Posts: 333


    Originally posted by Morskittar

    Originally posted by Murais

    Originally posted by Purgatos
    Wait, why are well still talking about the greenskins? Wasn't it already determined that orcs are grown from spores and if you want more background just head down to a GW store or the GW site.

    Anyways, instead of arguing over females in races, wouldn't gender specific classes be more of an issue? I think male DE Witch elves would be kinda creepy...

    I figured I'd throw this in, are the humans going to include Bretonnia or is it strictly empire?

       
    It's Empire humans only, that's why the faction is called Empire in the game, people just refer to it as humans overall.

        Well, there's Chaos humans technically, but that's a whole 'nother ball game as you know.


    Warhammer tends to be divided by nation, rather than race.  Rather than "humans" you have Bretonnians, Imperials, Tileans, Estalians, Kislevites, and Arabyans; Asur, Druchii, and Asrai rather than "elves"; and even dwarfs tend to gather by clan and king.

    Not like your typical fantasy setting in that respect.


    Nah, all the dwarves abide by the great book of grudges held by the highest dwarf king. There are, however, chaos dwarves as well, but they're all distinctly different from the normal ones.
  • LordSlaterLordSlater Member Posts: 2,087


    Originally posted by Babbuun

    Originally posted by Morskittar

    Originally posted by Murais

    Originally posted by Purgatos
    Wait, why are well still talking about the greenskins? Wasn't it already determined that orcs are grown from spores and if you want more background just head down to a GW store or the GW site.

    Anyways, instead of arguing over females in races, wouldn't gender specific classes be more of an issue? I think male DE Witch elves would be kinda creepy...

    I figured I'd throw this in, are the humans going to include Bretonnia or is it strictly empire?

        It's Empire humans only, that's why the faction is called Empire in the game, people just refer to it as humans overall.

        Well, there's Chaos humans technically, but that's a whole 'nother ball game as you know.


    Warhammer tends to be divided by nation, rather than race.  Rather than "humans" you have Bretonnians, Imperials, Tileans, Estalians, Kislevites, and Arabyans; Asur, Druchii, and Asrai rather than "elves"; and even dwarfs tend to gather by clan and king.

    Not like your typical fantasy setting in that respect.


    Nah, all the dwarves abide by the great book of grudges held by the highest dwarf king. There are, however, chaos dwarves as well, but they're all distinctly different from the normal ones.


    What he means is that the dwarfs are technicallly one empire and they all try to settle the book of grudges. But they are also divided by clan bloodlines as well and each clan has its own book of grudges that they try to settle.

    Dwarfs never forget a imagined or real slite to there honour and each one is lovingly put into there book of grudges. Dwarfs have been known to go to war just because some duke didnt pay back a gold coin he lost in a drunken bet 50 years ago.

    Also another story is a barrons castle was besiged by dwarfs as well and when the walls were pulled down the Dwarfs left leaving a note saying the unpayed fee for the castles dwarf made walls is now null and void....Grudge payed off.

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  • PurgatosPurgatos Member Posts: 3


    Originally posted by LordSlater

    Originally posted by Babbuun

    Originally posted by Morskittar

    Originally posted by Murais

    Originally posted by Purgatos
    Wait, why are well still talking about the greenskins? Wasn't it already determined that orcs are grown from spores and if you want more background just head down to a GW store or the GW site.

    Anyways, instead of arguing over females in races, wouldn't gender specific classes be more of an issue? I think male DE Witch elves would be kinda creepy...

    I figured I'd throw this in, are the humans going to include Bretonnia or is it strictly empire?

        It's Empire humans only, that's why the faction is called Empire in the game, people just refer to it as humans overall.

        Well, there's Chaos humans technically, but that's a whole 'nother ball game as you know.


    Warhammer tends to be divided by nation, rather than race.  Rather than "humans" you have Bretonnians, Imperials, Tileans, Estalians, Kislevites, and Arabyans; Asur, Druchii, and Asrai rather than "elves"; and even dwarfs tend to gather by clan and king.

    Not like your typical fantasy setting in that respect.


    Nah, all the dwarves abide by the great book of grudges held by the highest dwarf king. There are, however, chaos dwarves as well, but they're all distinctly different from the normal ones.


    What he means is that the dwarfs are technicallly one empire and they all try to settle the book of grudges. But they are also divided by clan bloodlines as well and each clan has its own book of grudges that they try to settle.

    Dwarfs never forget a imagined or real slite to there honour and each one is lovingly put into there book of grudges. Dwarfs have been known to go to war just because some duke didnt pay back a gold coin he lost in a drunken bet 50 years ago.

    Also another story is a barrons castle was besiged by dwarfs as well and when the walls were pulled down the Dwarfs left leaving a note saying the unpayed fee for the castles dwarf made walls is now null and void....Grudge payed off.




    While this is true and all, everyone is currently at war right now (like theres ever any peace) so instead of people being seperated by faction or kingdom almost all will come together in an effort to repel the invaders, or destroy the invaders (of course for chaos or Dark elves its never a bad time for a betrayal). Besides the biggest grudge of all in the book of grudges is against the greenskins.
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