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Look at this and think about life elsewhere in the universe
Dekron
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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/040309/481/ny11303091556
This is hubbles latest picture. All of those are galaxies. Now can you honestly say that one planet in this entire universe full of galaxies has life?
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great point. although i have thought about life on other planets for many years. seriously how can there only be use among this vast universe of ours.
....yes
....heh, just kidding. what kind of X-Files junky would i be if i didnt believe in aliens.
If trees could scream, would we be so cavalier about cutting them down? We might, if they screamed all the time, for no good reason.
--Jack Handy
If trees could scream, would we be so cavalier about cutting them down? We might, if they screamed all the time, for no good reason.
--Jack Handy
I'll be the point of reason then.
This page I found should clear up any questions.
http://hometown.aol.com/biloker/universe.html
Give me your lunch money.
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I to belive in life else were in the universe. we cant be the only thing in the universe.
Love your enemys, it will drive them crazy.
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NOOOOO get it out get it out!!!!
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Love your enemys, it will drive them crazy.
9.523809523809523% nerd blood flows through your veins.
NOOOOO get it out get it out!!!!
If trees could scream, would we be so cavalier about cutting them down? We might, if they screamed all the time, for no good reason.
--Jack Handy
If trees could scream, would we be so cavalier about cutting them down? We might, if they screamed all the time, for no good reason.
--Jack Handy
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anything is possible! everything that could possibly exist exists until it is proven it doesnt exist.
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yea i think that site is Bullshit wtf does a stable tempature or size of a planet or if it has carbon or not have to do with life
some life might not even need water who knows who ever wrote that artical sure as hell doesnt.. well just my 2 cents
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Thats rather ignorant to say that just because somone is religious they dont believe in other life in the universe. I'm a very serious christian, and i've found that throughout the bible there were subtle but rather clear hints of other life that talked about extra-terrestrial life.
People dont believe that there is not extra-terrestrial life because of religion, but usually because of being egotistical, or ignorant.
To say that there being aliens would make religion false is again seeming rather ignorant, in fact there being aliens would make more sense. Because to have multiple races of highly intelligent beings (human or above intelligence) would only be possible by an almighty God. Randomness just isnt possible.
The truth is out there! *bzzz*
"The greatest trick the devil played on humanity in the 20th century was convincing them that he didn't exist." (Paraphrasing) C.S. Lewis
"If a mother can kill her own child, what is left before I kill you and you kill me?" -Mother Teresa when talking about abortion after accepting the Nobel Peace Prize in 1979
"yea i think that site is Bullshit wtf does a stable tempature or size of a planet or if it has carbon or not have to do with life"
What?! These mean alot more than you think!!!
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Give me your lunch money.
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I'm 99% sure that there are other civilizations like us but who gives a damn? I won't live that long to see them neither would you. Zoo is full of strange activities, enough for me.
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Sometimes, it is better to say nothing at all. Cause big mouths results in big words, and big words travel like bacteria.
Sometimes, it is better to say nothing at all. Cause big mouths say big words, and big words travel like bacteria.
Sometimes, it is better to say nothing at all. Cause big mouths results in big words, and big words travel like bacteria.
Sometimes, it is better to say nothing at all. Cause big mouths say big words, and big words travel like bacteria.
Actually using the word ignorant in this case is very incorrect. Ignorant means "not knowing". When it comes to the Bible I know a large amount. I used to be a gung ho christian, then I started to think for myself and not listen to what some idiot was saying up on a pulpit. Let's look at the possibilities of why it would prove it a myth.
First of all God created man (genesis) and then the earth is wiped clean and the new "heaven" acsends and Jesus rules for 1000 years (revelations) I skipped over all the in between crap to save some time. Now say there is an alien race that comes to earth and dominates the crap out of us to near extinction. That would prove religion false because it's not in the Bible that things happen that way. Ok something more "realistic". An alien race does land on earth, they share their "religion" with us. It is totally contradictory than that in the bible, who is right, huh? I guess those damned aliens are worshiping false idols as well. Ok even just an alien lands. The bible states that man was created on earth, thats it. You already proved my theory on what people would do if an alien race was or life elsewhere were discovered: you would take the bible and shape the general meaning of a teaching to make it correct about anything. If thats the case, you should go to www.escape666.com and click the "space jesus" link on how it takes verses from the bible and "proves" that jesus was an alien. Examples are Jesus ascending on a cloud of fire into the heavens. Sounds like a spaceship eh? The bible is written so it can be bent to acknowledge any subject. And my remarks aren't unwarranted. Preachers, preists, congregration have all said the same thing. There cannot be life in the universe other than on earth, because the Bible states God created man on earth. Bascially they are saying if it isn't in the bible it isn't a fact.
Now I can disprove any fact in the bible (ask my wife it pisses her off when we have these discussions
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Point 1 - Dinosaurs and early man- No account for that in the Bible
My best which always stumps preachers or any "teacher of the bible": In Genesis God created the first man and woman - Adam and Eve - Adam and Eve then had two sons Cain and Able. Cain killed Able and God cursed him to walk forever on the earth and the ground not bear any food blah blah blah. Cains response disproves the whole Bible: Cain says to God "This is a terrible punishment. If ANYONE else finds me they will surely kill me." Ok, lets think about this one. Adam and Eve the very first people, Cain and Able their first sons...hmmmm how can their be other people if they are the only 4 in existence. Now mosts preachers responses are "Well, uh, ummm well." and others are "Well God must have created other people". Uhh if you speculate or assume about most things then they are not true. You cannot just make up, speculate, or assume facts just to prove something.
How about this one. When God created man he said "Let us create man in OUR image". Uhh our? Who's he talking to. Is he not the only god? Now I bet your response as well as almost every others are this "Well he was talking about the holy trinity: the father, the son, and the holy ghost." nope, wrong answer...try again!! Genesis is in the Old Testament. The holy trinity isn't discussed until the New Testament, which was written a few thousand years after the old. You can't add something to try and support another statement just to make it "fit". Anyways thats about it from me. Just to let you know I wasn't flaming, just stating specifics to support my thesis
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1. During the millenium Jesus will not physically rule, only at the end of time will the earth be "wiped clean" as you call it. (burned with fire I think was what it said) and then will there be a new heaven and a new earth.
2. Aliens landing and their religion being contradicting? You're only speculating. For all you know it could be in complete allignment. Aliens landing isnt exactly that exactly far fetched, considering daniel talks about a different race coming and mingling themselves with men.
Daniel 2:43 and whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men but they shall not cleave one to another even as iron is not mixed with clay.
It is obvious that THEY are not humans, it is showed that they show intelligence as great, if not greater then our own, but because of them being extra-terrestrial they would not be able to mix with humans because of completely different genetics.
3. I'm not exactly sure how I proved your fact that people would twist the bible or whatever.
4. I'll suppose you'll also say Elijah and Enoch were aliens as well? Because they ascended to heaven in a whirlwind and a chariot of fire? Rightt....
5. Because a priest says something does it make it fact? Listening to preachers and pastors and priest's is all well and good, but look in the bible for yourself, you'll find that they'll add in things that were never even in the bible. The trinity? God, Jesus, and The Holy Spirit being one and the same being, with just different names or another form, but one mind? No where in the bible does it ever say it, just another belief that came out of who knows what. Rapture? Another common belief that has no merit and is no where mentioned in the bible.
6. Dinosaurs and man before the flood, they mentioned them, although not alot, leviathen, behemoth? Both "giant fearsome creatures"? Hrmm... Look at the book of Job
7. There were other beings beside adam and eve, it says so, look in the first chapter of Genesis, first he created man, male and female created he them. Then he created adam and eve, chapter 2. Cain also built a city (obviously not by himself) so of course there were other people. Adam and Eve were not the first people, they were told to replenish the earth....Wait....that would mean it had inhabitants before....i.e. REPLENISH...............
8. Let us create man in our own image. If you've ever read the bible in its original hebrew, you'd know that it didnt just talk about God the father. But as well as Yashua, (Jesus) and the elohim, sons of God
"The greatest trick the devil played on humanity in the 20th century was convincing them that he didn't exist." (Paraphrasing) C.S. Lewis
"If a mother can kill her own child, what is left before I kill you and you kill me?" -Mother Teresa when talking about abortion after accepting the Nobel Peace Prize in 1979
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"this means nothing, it could be as simple as another animal. No mention of beings from the stars"
Except 1. Iron vs clay. Iron is stronger, more resilient, clay, frail and weak. 2. The Iron is referred to as a kingdom. 3. Animals? Oh c'mon....
"I never said I believed anything a preist said, and yes I misphrased...the concept itself of the trinity is represented in the New testament."
Again though, there is no proof that supports them being one being. As well, there is too much proof to say otherwise, "Not my will Father but yours."
As in seperate wills. Overall its a nonsensical idea.
"The behemoth, look at the definition and the original word. It is translated into an elephant, not a dinosaur. Still didn't counter on early man and the several different subspecies (such as neanderthal)."
I have a feeling that the behemoth was similar to an elephant, but was more close to a mammoth.
As well, just because it didnt go into a who list of what species there were, doesnt mean they werent there. It did mention giant fearsome creatures, with flesh or scales like armor, etc.
Neanderthal, many people say they were "sub-species" when most likely they were just diseased humans. Its been proven that certain bone diseases are proven to cause symptoms such as those that were known as "neanderthal".
"Actually no. It states Adam and Eve were the first. As far as Cain - He built a city..well he couldn't do it himself so there must have been other people...speculation is all that is. I have read reread and reread genesis. Any sayings by anyone that there were others before Adam and Eve or other beings are speculation. Now another example is Noah. It was him, his wife, his kids and their wives. Yeah, the whole world was repopulated by them. This basically states then God supports incest."
If you read the law of moses, it describes incest, marriage between cousins isnt incest. Brother and sister is, uncle niece, nephew/aunt, etc. You get the idea.
It may seem a little creepy, but it isnt incest.
As well, no where in Genesis does it ever say Adam and Eve were the first humans, in fact it tells them to replenish it.
Take it like....replenishing the earth with water, saying to replenish it gives the fact that once upon a time there was water.
"Kind of tough, cant read Hebrew
But that kind of contradicts itself as Jesus (Yeshua actually) is supposed to be the only son of god, so how can there be the elohim? (Which I am rather curious about as never hearing that."
Only begotten Son of God. What this exactly means alot of people speculate. But angels are referred to as sons of God. There is a difference, it makes sure to specify that.
"The greatest trick the devil played on humanity in the 20th century was convincing them that he didn't exist." (Paraphrasing) C.S. Lewis
"If a mother can kill her own child, what is left before I kill you and you kill me?" -Mother Teresa when talking about abortion after accepting the Nobel Peace Prize in 1979
Since the universe is constantly expanding there are a infant number of planets in the universe. Of those planets only a finite number can support intelegant life. The problem is in order to figure out the percentage of planets that can support life you must divide the total numbe of planets by the ones cappable of supporting ife. Since anytime you divide a finate number into infinaty you get nothing. There must be no planets in the universe cappable of supporting intellegent life.
- An argument from the late great Douglas Adams
Cheers to the master
Uhh, well then this life must be a dream. Either that or then we arent intelligent, in that case the guy has no idea what hes talking about. So he just made a paradox.
That and the whole fact that space cant expand.
"The greatest trick the devil played on humanity in the 20th century was convincing them that he didn't exist." (Paraphrasing) C.S. Lewis
"If a mother can kill her own child, what is left before I kill you and you kill me?" -Mother Teresa when talking about abortion after accepting the Nobel Peace Prize in 1979
yeah I see it....and still don't buy it...
jk...there is DEF a whole lot out there.
It's not that Elijah and Enoch were aliens, but were abducted by aliens. Not too far fetched for me.
I have always argued the point about the trinity. Nowhere in the Bible does it have the word trinity or the expression "God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost". Jesus at many times made distinctions between himself, the Father, and the Holy Spirit. The trinity theory was added to the Catholic Church during Emperor Constantine's time (325 AD). The idea of the trinity can be traced back to the Babylonians. Babylonians worshiped one God in three persons and used the equilateral triangle as a symbol of this trinity. This god was not the same as the Jewish god.
I'm not sure that Leviathen and Behemoth are any more proof that people were around with dinosaurs than stories about dragons.
I like the 'us' usage in Genesis, but that will just have people going back to arguing the trinity.
I definitely believe there are other life forms not on earth. The real question is, do you believe any intelligent life not from our planet has actually came to visit us?