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  • ManweZManweZ Member Posts: 65
    WOW IS FOR HARDCORE SMOKERS AND GUYS WHO DRINK BEER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • wrathexwrathex Member Posts: 9
    The fuck are u on about.....my mate wld stay from 7am till 2 am(the next morning) just playing wow and it was the same damn thing evry day, his mum was concerned bout his hlth issues.....he was grinding, harvesting and allt he other crap is grinding as well......and also u must have forgot the fact that the topic was on respecting other ppls opinions, but clearly tht is beyond ur comprehension........and lastly check the stat charts mate, the us dollar is stronger than the japanese yen, hence more yen will bring fewer cents....not tht really matter but yea
  • GoddyfatherGoddyfather Member Posts: 239

    Originally posted by DemonknightI
    If you're a girl player or just afraid of being killed and want to play an MMO that's more like a singleplayer game WoW is the game for you.  If PvE is what you like without being hassled by other players (even on PvP realms) WoW is the game for you.

    This game was so fun when I started playing it.  The possibilities were endless.  WoW probably has the most disappointing endgame of any other MMO or game for that matter considering what an epic game it could of been.

    Players had an endgame in the form of PVP and city raiding, but of course that was stripped away.  Battlegrounds and the honor system made pvp potentials hide in BGs and since that was the only place pvp can be found and only rewarding pvp that's where everyone was. 

    A game full of massive amounts of level 60 players playing the same 3 repatative battleground games.  What a flop. 

    If you're someone who enjoys things other than pvp you can raid a few dungeons, but just getting into a raid guild is a task in itself.  There's a whole lot of politics you have to go through ontop of all the drama...All guilds have it unless of course you're a guild leader..then you can crap all over everyone else and screw people out of items so your friend's get them.  Raiding will consist of hours upon hours of your life being wasted away to maybe get 1 epic.  Then once you get the epics......???...heh...you get to go sit in ironforge and show em off like you would show your clothes off at a church.  There's nothing to WoW outside of controled pvp and instanced raiding.  No life in the world.  Blizzard killed city raiding and world pvp.  The expansion will be interesting for about 2 months and everything and everyone will settle into the same cycle WoW is in right now.

    level 1-59 this game is great.  It's WoW's endgame and Blizzard's insistance on making sure all the whiners weren't getting killed and everyone played nicely that kept it from being legendary.

    My 2 cents, thanks



    Dissagree. This game suxs just from the start too the end. Booring,repeative quests. Go get X of that. Go kill X of that. And its al about gear... This game will fall at the releases of new MMO's.
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  • theratmonkeytheratmonkey Member Posts: 684

    Originally posted by wrathex
    The fuck are u on about.....my mate wld stay from 7am till 2 am(the next morning) just playing wow and it was the same damn thing evry day, his mum was concerned bout his hlth issues.....he was grinding, harvesting and allt he other crap is grinding as well......and also u must have forgot the fact that the topic was on respecting other ppls opinions, but clearly tht is beyond ur comprehension........and lastly check the stat charts mate, the us dollar is stronger than the japanese yen, hence more yen will bring fewer cents....not tht really matter but yea
    ....Translation, please?


    Groovy.

  • PlanoMMPlanoMM Member Posts: 1,267
    WoW is for those that rock at Chutes and ladders.

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  • Originally posted by Sovrath
    Originally posted by jimmyman99
    Originally posted by mehhem
    WoW is fun til 60, and then you realize you will either:
    A Run the same instances over again and get crappy blue gear!
    B Run the same instances over again and get purple gear
    C Run the same instances over again and spend dozens of hours doing so
    D Run the same battlegrounds over again realizing you can't get to the top, because some kid who has no parents and doesn't work play 24/7

      image Bullz eye. If only people could understand that people are different, and that some games were made for specific type of people. WoW was made for casuals, the ones that dont level to 60 in 3 weeks or even a month (which means the majority of the world gamer population). I played wow for 2 years (on and off), and never reached 60 (im tired of saying that over and over image ). I have 7 chars in total, and never hit any big raids or big grinds. People like me enjoy(ed) WoW. And there seem to be a lot of us, which is good becuase if most peeps in the world would of been hardcore gamers then humanity in general would degrade into hairy apes and then aliens would colonize our planet.


    Actually, I have had a character in WoW since release and he is a mighty lvl 27. I only have time to devote to "so many" games. Screwed around with a few characters to lvl 10 but then settled on one. For the brief time I enter the game I enjoy myself. If the game wasn't so cartoony I might be a more regular player but it is what it is and that is fine.



    I thought I was a slow leveller. You have me beat lol


  • PlanoMMPlanoMM Member Posts: 1,267
    i believe that i have every1 beat, i have a lvl 6 pally in WOW.  granted, i havent even played him for 8 months but still.

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  • LeJohnLeJohn Member Posts: 313

    To the OP, Perhaps WOW is not for you. There are lots of other games you can try, actually you may like EVE, which brings me to:


    I'm starting to think they're all high.  But, at the moment, there is no better games to play.  I wish I hadn't quit EVE.

    Try City of Heroes, Planetside, WW2 Online, Eve Online, Anarchy Online, D&D Online, Matrix Online. Only noobs complain about WoW endgame. Most MMO's don't have any endgame.


    QFT (except the quit EVE part)  Seriously if you are interested in endgame stuff you should be playing a single player game, they tend to have good endgame stuff (except for HALO.. dang cliffhangers)
    Ok I saw this post:


    Eve IMO has the best endgame content. I still have an active Eve account, it's the only MMO I have yet to cancel. Not only does CCP have great updates to their game, but they really allow you to play the game how ever you want.

    I just have to ask, WTH you smoking? Not only is there no endgame in EVE CCP has not had any updates only patchs and balance fixes. TBH, the game has not even had the originally intended content added so in reality EVE is still a beta. (I know I have been playing EVE going on 4 years now)imagehttp://images.mmorpg.com/images/emoticons/emt_crazy.gif">

    As far as the PVP aspect, well as some one else posted, if you want real PVP go play a FPS, BF offers fantastic PVP. It’s what I play when I fill like some real PVP. Is the PVP in WOW bad? No there is actually good PVP, what there is not WOW is Ganking, which seems to be the main problem with those complaining.

    The main thing to keep in mind is that a great MMORPG does not have to have any PVP to be a good game. The point of these games is to play as a group and interact with the other people in the game. If you want to really have fun the play on a RP server, though it is important that you actually Role Play.

     Though from what I have seen of most PKers that want to dawn the shroud of a PVPer to try and legitimize their actions, they seem to be RPing azzhats and are playing it very convincingly.  image
     
     

  • osc8rosc8r Member UncommonPosts: 688

    To the OP, Perhaps WOW is not for you. There are lots of other games you can try, actually you may like EVE, which brings me to:
    QFT (except the quit EVE part)  Seriously if you are interested in endgame stuff you should be playing a single player game, they tend to have good endgame stuff (except for HALO.. dang cliffhangers)
    Ok I saw this post:Umm... "Game Over" doesn't classify as end game stuff. Using your theory: hey, if you are interested in PVE go play Oblivion as it has much better PVE than WOW. If you are interested in community, go find a chat room - much better conversations than in WOW. Your argument is flawed.

    I just have to ask, WTH you smoking? Not only is there no endgame in EVE CCP has not had any updates only patchs and balance fixes.
    It's called meaningful PVP.
    As far as the PVP aspect, well as some one else posted, if you want real PVP go play a FPS, BF offers fantastic PVP. It’s what I play when I fill like some real PVP. Is the PVP in WOW bad? No there is actually good PVP, what there is not WOW is Ganking, which seems to be the main problem with those complaining.PVP is present in ROLE PLAYING GAMES, not FPS games. Sure, it is player versus player but thats all the game is - an action FPS game. See above.
    The main thing to keep in mind is that a great MMORPG does not have to have any PVP to be a good game. The point of these games is to play as a group and interact with the other people in the game. If you want to really have fun the play on a RP server, though it is important that you actually Role Play.That is your opinion. In my opinion a game DOES need to have MEANINGFUL PVP to be a good game, WOW does NOT offer this. The point of MMORPG's is to have fun, and PVE grinding and PVP grinding is not FUN, at least to me.
     Though from what I have seen of most PKers that want to dawn the shroud of a PVPer to try and legitimize their actions, they seem to be RPing azzhats and are playing it very convincingly.  imageCarebear. 


  • baffbaff Member Posts: 9,457

    I don't find Eve PvP very meaningful. Rather a meaningless waste of an evening spent organising a giant fleet all to meet up 3 hours jump away from where you are; to travel another 2 hours to where the enemy is; to find out that the enemy won't fight you because he is worried about losing his ship which took him 7 months and £70 to grind. Spend 45 minutes swearing and trash talking at the enemy and then go to bed.

    Rinse and repeat tomorrow.

    What meaning does this have?

    .

    P.S. the PVE in Wow is much much better than the PvE in Oblivion which is very dull indeed. However, I don't feel I have to play one or the other, I am perfectly capable of playing both. 

    Wow PvP is better than many because it offers a number of different gametypes to play and comparatively easy access to a fight. Although any game will get repetaitve if you persistently repeat it, the combinations available in WoW are far larger than most (if not all) other MMO's . Eve, for example, only offers you free-for-all style combat. Wow took a big leaf out of Unreals book with the addition of Battlegrounds, you can still do duels and free-for-all type fighting, but there is more for when you get bored of it. 

    That said RPG PvP tends to be a no brainer. I don't find it challenging or rewarding. I prefer dedicated PvP games like Shooters and RTS. If you are going to PvP you might as well play a balanced game made for that purpose, and refined over thousands of iterations of the genre.

  • osc8rosc8r Member UncommonPosts: 688

    Originally posted by baff
    I don't find Eve PvP very meaningful. Rather a meaningless waste of an evening spent organising a giant fleet all to meet up 3 hours jump away from where you are; to travel another 2 hours to where the enemy is; to find out that the enemy won't fight you because he is worried about losing his ship which took him 7 months and £70 to grind. Spend 45 minutes swearing and trash talking at the enemy and then go to bed. Rinse and repeat tomorrow. What meaning does this have?Risk VS Reward.

    P.S. the PVE in Wow is much much better than the PvE in Oblivion which is very dull indeed. However, I don't feel I have to play one or the other, I am perfectly capable of playing both.
    Im glad you think so. But to me, i don't feel like paying a monthly fee for a PVE grind, stupid quests, and endless raiding.
    Wow PvP is better than many because it offers a number of different gametypes to play and comparatively easy access to a fight. Although any game will get repetaitve if you persistently repeat it, the combinations available in WoW are far larger than most (if not all) other MMO's .
    The PVP in WOW is one pointless grind - whether that be in a battleground or not - all the gametypes are pointless without risks or rewards. Keep spewing your BS.
    Eve, for example, only offers you free-for-all style combat. Wow took a big leaf out of Unreals book with the addition of Battlegrounds, you can still do duels and free-for-all type fighting, but there is more for when you get bored of it.
    FFA in zones that allow it. Battlegrounds are nothing new and are for carebears. Again, there is no point to the PVP and the only people that are rewarded are the people who can grind honour points for 10 hours a day.
    That said RPG PvP tends to be a no brainer. I don't find it challenging or rewarding. I prefer dedicated PvP games like Shooters and RTS. If you are going to PvP you might as well play a balanced game made for that purpose, and refined over thousands of iterations of the genre.And finally the truth comes out!!! The reason why you don't find it challenging or rewarding is because you are playing the wrong MMORPG's. Try AC1 or UO -these games were based on player skill and NOT player equipment. They were also a lot more complex and stategic than any FPS game.


  • DemonknightIDemonknightI Member Posts: 42

    Originally posted by mehhem
    WoW is fun til 60, and then you realize you will either:
    A Run the same instances over again and get crappy blue gear!
    B Run the same instances over again and get purple gear
    C Run the same instances over again and spend dozens of hours doing so
    D Run the same battlegrounds over again realizing you can't get to the top, because some kid who has no parents and doesn't work play 24/7


    This man is correct.


  • DemonknightIDemonknightI Member Posts: 42

    lvl 1-60 this game is fun and addicting.  Once you hit endgame you'll see what I'm talking about.

    I think they just simply spoonfed the game to everyone making it too easy and everyone hit lvl 60 in no time.  The quests are simple.  That why I say it's for newbs cause let's face it, it is.  What are the hardest obstacles you face on your trek to level 60?  You never lose any exp.  The worst that can happen is some higher level camps you for awhile. 

    All in all the game was made with no risk and an easy level 1-60 on a silver platter.  That's why it's so popular.  The game does look good too as well as being addictive, but that addiction will end once you've gotten to level 60 a couple times.



  • PlanoMMPlanoMM Member Posts: 1,267
    a couple of times to 60?  it wore off after about 2 hrs of play for me, lol.

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  • DominuzDominuz Member Posts: 38

    So many people will quit when / before BC comes out, Tried the beta and there are milions of quests, they all have the same goal (collect materials spread around an area, kill x number of monsters, get x number of items from monsters or kill a special named mob with same HP as a normal mob...)

    Doing this about 20 times to reach lvl 61 is not my playstyle at all.

    I've been playing this shizzle since Us beta and back then it was fun, aswell as in start of retail. Any1 who played wow pvp without battlegrounds and without all being lvl 60 (stil without battlegrounds) Know that once upon a time wow had great pvp. Before all rewards and BGs came to ruin it.

    It's the same with "endgame" it's fun in the start but it becomes work and eventually you quit. I enjoy grinding in L2 more fun now. I actually think wow is filled with 10 IQers aswell, somehow I think atleast 50% are more stupid than monkeys.

  • theratmonkeytheratmonkey Member Posts: 684
    Umm...Aren't quest like that anyway?


    And as far as endgame and pvp goes...I'm just gonna run a dungeon or two for now to try and get my Teir 0.
    Nothing special about the armor, but it's pretty good.


    Plus, no having to go on huge raids to get it.

    The longest dungeon I've been to so far to get the T0, was UBRS, which isn't all that bad. ( I don't run it much though. Usually don't make it very far after we kill the beast. )

    The new honor system looks nice though.



    Groovy.

  • DemonknightIDemonknightI Member Posts: 42

    Originally posted by Goddyfather
    Originally posted by DemonknightI
    If you're a girl player or just afraid of being killed and want to play an MMO that's more like a singleplayer game WoW is the game for you.  If PvE is what you like without being hassled by other players (even on PvP realms) WoW is the game for you.

    This game was so fun when I started playing it.  The possibilities were endless.  WoW probably has the most disappointing endgame of any other MMO or game for that matter considering what an epic game it could of been.

    Players had an endgame in the form of PVP and city raiding, but of course that was stripped away.  Battlegrounds and the honor system made pvp potentials hide in BGs and since that was the only place pvp can be found and only rewarding pvp that's where everyone was. 

    A game full of massive amounts of level 60 players playing the same 3 repatative battleground games.  What a flop. 

    If you're someone who enjoys things other than pvp you can raid a few dungeons, but just getting into a raid guild is a task in itself.  There's a whole lot of politics you have to go through ontop of all the drama...All guilds have it unless of course you're a guild leader..then you can crap all over everyone else and screw people out of items so your friend's get them.  Raiding will consist of hours upon hours of your life being wasted away to maybe get 1 epic.  Then once you get the epics......???...heh...you get to go sit in ironforge and show em off like you would show your clothes off at a church.  There's nothing to WoW outside of controled pvp and instanced raiding.  No life in the world.  Blizzard killed city raiding and world pvp.  The expansion will be interesting for about 2 months and everything and everyone will settle into the same cycle WoW is in right now.

    level 1-59 this game is great.  It's WoW's endgame and Blizzard's insistance on making sure all the whiners weren't getting killed and everyone played nicely that kept it from being legendary.

    My 2 cents, thanks


    Dissagree. This game suxs just from the start too the end. Booring,repeative quests. Go get X of that. Go kill X of that. And its al about gear... This game will fall at the releases of new MMO's.
    Happy flamming image

    Well, I really enjoyed the game when I first started playing it cause I didn't know the end result.  I mean at first look the game appeared to be the most epic MMO ever until you begin to see how shallow it is the closer you get to endgame.  Ya, it's all about gear.  You can't even put your attributes where you want them it's all predetermined.

       Another thing that I was thinking about was how horrible the character creation is.  You realize that this game has millions of players, yet there's about 6-7 different variation of each character feature?  It sucks.   I ran into so many clones  when I was playing and that's not including the clones of players whereing the same exact equipment as you are.


  • DemonknightIDemonknightI Member Posts: 42

    Originally posted by theratmonkey
    Umm...Aren't quest like that anyway?


    And as far as endgame and pvp goes...I'm just gonna run a dungeon or two for now to try and get my Teir 0.
    Nothing special about the armor, but it's pretty good.


    Plus, no having to go on huge raids to get it.

    The longest dungeon I've been to so far to get the T0, was UBRS, which isn't all that bad. ( I don't run it much though. Usually don't make it very far after we kill the beast. )

    The new honor system looks nice though.

    I think the dungeon aspect Blizzard got it right.  I still think for how big the game is they could of added a lot more equipment customization and variety. 


  • theratmonkeytheratmonkey Member Posts: 684

    Originally posted by DemonknightI
    Originally posted by theratmonkey
    Umm...Aren't quest like that anyway?


    And as far as endgame and pvp goes...I'm just gonna run a dungeon or two for now to try and get my Teir 0.
    Nothing special about the armor, but it's pretty good.


    Plus, no having to go on huge raids to get it.

    The longest dungeon I've been to so far to get the T0, was UBRS, which isn't all that bad. ( I don't run it much though. Usually don't make it very far after we kill the beast. )

    The new honor system looks nice though.
    I think the dungeon aspect Blizzard got it right.  I still think for how big the game is they could of added a lot more equipment customization and variety. 


    YES!

    That would be something great!

    I don't get it.
    On Anarchy Online for my T1 armor, I had to get a full armor set that cost 1mil for half and the other half cost 2mil, and I also I had to run to a bunch of high lvl places to get items that I also needed along with it. ( Half the armor needed 2 SL area keys that drop from monsters, the other half needed 4. Hard as hell to find. )

    Than, after I got that armor, I basicly had to find about 20 different items from various dungeons and find people to actually construct glyph's so I could make the T1 armor myself.

    And I have the full t1 set on AO.


    ...On WoW, I'm having trouble just getting the Dungeon 1 set.

    ...But I have 5 peices right now. :D


    Groovy.

  • baffbaff Member Posts: 9,457



    Originally posted by osc8r



    Originally posted by baff

    I don't find Eve PvP very meaningful. Rather a meaningless waste of an evening spent organising a giant fleet all to meet up 3 hours jump away from where you are; to travel another 2 hours to where the enemy is; to find out that the enemy won't fight you because he is worried about losing his ship which took him 7 months and £70 to grind. Spend 45 minutes swearing and trash talking at the enemy and then go to bed.
    Rinse and repeat tomorrow.
    What meaning does this have?Risk VS Reward.


     

    What?

    I risk 6 hours of my free time for no fun?

    This is what I call meaningless in the extreme.

    It's just poor game design.


     

  • osc8rosc8r Member UncommonPosts: 688

    Originally posted by baff
    Originally posted by osc8r
    Originally posted by baff
    I don't find Eve PvP very meaningful. Rather a meaningless waste of an evening spent organising a giant fleet all to meet up 3 hours jump away from where you are; to travel another 2 hours to where the enemy is; to find out that the enemy won't fight you because he is worried about losing his ship which took him 7 months and £70 to grind. Spend 45 minutes swearing and trash talking at the enemy and then go to bed. Rinse and repeat tomorrow. What meaning does this have?Risk VS Reward.

     

    What?

    I risk 6 hours of my free time for no fun?

    This is what I call meaningless in the extreme.

    It's just poor game design.


     



    In WOW i risk nothing ever.

    This is what i call poor game design.


  • bizounce101bizounce101 Member Posts: 28
    you suck --- get a life. Stupid nerdy ameture expert thinks hes so ---- smart.
  • bizounce101bizounce101 Member Posts: 28



    Originally posted by DemonknightI
    If you're a girl player or just afraid of being killed and want to play an MMO that's more like a singleplayer game WoW is the game for you.  If PvE is what you like without being hassled by other players (even on PvP realms) WoW is the game for you.

    This game was so fun when I started playing it.  The possibilities were endless.  WoW probably has the most disappointing endgame of any other MMO or game for that matter considering what an epic game it could of been.

    Players had an endgame in the form of PVP and city raiding, but of course that was stripped away.  Battlegrounds and the honor system made pvp potentials hide in BGs and since that was the only place pvp can be found and only rewarding pvp that's where everyone was. 

    A game full of massive amounts of level 60 players playing the same 3 repatative battleground games.  What a flop. 

    If you're someone who enjoys things other than pvp you can raid a few dungeons, but just getting into a raid guild is a task in itself.  There's a whole lot of politics you have to go through ontop of all the drama...All guilds have it unless of course you're a guild leader..then you can crap all over everyone else and screw people out of items so your friend's get them.  Raiding will consist of hours upon hours of your life being wasted away to maybe get 1 epic.  Then once you get the epics......???...heh...you get to go sit in ironforge and show em off like you would show your clothes off at a church.  There's nothing to WoW outside of controled pvp and instanced raiding.  No life in the world.  Blizzard killed city raiding and world pvp.  The expansion will be interesting for about 2 months and everything and everyone will settle into the same cycle WoW is in right now.

    level 1-59 this game is great.  It's WoW's endgame and Blizzard's insistance on making sure all the whiners weren't getting killed and everyone played nicely that kept it from being legendary.

    My 2 cents, thanks



    you are such a lier. What a nerd.
  • The+BanditThe+Bandit Member Posts: 21

    Yet again ANOTHER flame forum from an unsatisfied customer. Take my advice, go play RuneScape or MapleStory. There are alot of other former WoW players there. You can go and bitch with them about how "bad" WoW was, just dont do it here. I think us WoW players have had enough of your crap.

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  • baffbaff Member Posts: 9,457




    Originally posted by osc8r

    In WOW i risk nothing ever.

    This is what i call poor game design.




    Take up online poker or meditation.

    Video games are about having fun not risking your money, or wasting entire evenings doing nothing.

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