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OMG lineage II is soooooo boring.
Orthosin
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Got to level 10 and the grind was so omg. And there was barly any players to interact with. Why was this game created? Why are there no auction houses in any korean made mmos ok ok i give archlord credit for that but archlord is a whole nother suckage in itself.
Why do koreans make mmos? They have not got one right yet. Before i get bashed by a crazy anime fan or korean mmo lover i have played many korean mmos and i have got bored QUICK i walk into some huge town asking to group and i see nothing but a bunch of people sitting on the ground spamming items. PLLLLLEASE eastern countrys stick to making single player RPGs.
I know your all saying well if you dont like em dont play em. Thats not the case instead of wasting money on these craptastic games they could put that money to making awesome single player rpgs.
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you only reached level 10?
Move along people, nothing to see here. just coolguy20 trolling on a diffrent account.
Oh, and before you call me a troll, I reached Level 60 on Teon as a Dwarf Artisan before finally admitting that my clan weren't a good enough reason to carry on playing.
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Yet another bash post by Orthosin about a game he knows nothing about.
I'm really not going to get into it, save for one or two points.
1) You get to lvl 10 in an evening in L2 now , you can get to none newbie areas in a few days and yes the new players areas will be sparse and that's actually a very, very good thing. L2 is an open pvp game, take that time to learn the game, understand the class you've chosen and get acclimated to your enironment because later their will be zero tolerance.
If someone wants to fight you, they don't have to politely ask you to take up arms so you can have a go at it. There are no safe zones (except for inside cities) and yes it actually takes skill to PVP in L2. (which come to think of it, is probably a good reason why Orthosin couldn't play it).
2) Here's the kicker, L2 will not hold your hand. It's not a damned babysitting service and it's not going to ask you nicely to go here and then there, oh and don't forget to stop by that place. If you cannot handle a game that does NOT tell you where to go, what to do and when to do it, do not play L2. There's plenty of other MMO's that fit that bill and this is not one of them.
3) To enjoy L2 you must understand and appreciate it for what it truly is. An open ended, open PVP, clan based, castle seiging and sometimes raiding MMORPG. There is no one "end game" in L2, it is what you want it to be. Don't want to raid, NP, don't!, it's never going to set you back from those that do. Don't want to castle seige, NP, don't, because it's always your option to do so. That's it, period.
Know what your playing.
Go back to making your: "WoW is the glory of all MMO's" posts, I still couldn't take you seriously but at the least I could respect you for being a fan of a game you love, now your just making a fool of yourself.
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I played Lineage 2 right up to the release of C1 and there was a lot to like about the game. I just couldn't handle the grind (both financial and leveling) so I moved on.
But many people love the game and there's no reason to make pointless posts like this bashing it.
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Oh, and before you call me a troll, I reached Level 60 on Teon as a Dwarf Artisan before finally admitting that my clan weren't a good enough reason to carry on playing.
Yes it does matter what level one reaches. If the op would have actually played for a reasonable amount of time, he would have seen that there are plenty of players around, they are at the higher level towns. Also, Close to all of the features DO start at a higher level, including the most important one, pvp. he didn't even make his first class change yet.also notice how he says korean MMO's don't have an AH. funny thing is, Lineage 2 DOES have an AH. its just not in the starter town, the only town he has been to. its like going to a theme park, walk trough the entrance, then walk right out without going into any of the rides, telling everybody how much it sucks.
Ha ha the op is really funny.
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I started playing yesterday ..and i ended up playing ALL DAY. i reached lvl 14 and i really am enjoying this game.
Im coming home straight after work and playing this all day. Awesome. This trial is great.
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Oh, and before you call me a troll, I reached Level 60 on Teon as a Dwarf Artisan before finally admitting that my clan weren't a good enough reason to carry on playing.
Yes it does matter what level one reaches. If the op would have actually played for a reasonable amount of time, he would have seen that there are plenty of players around, they are at the higher level towns. Also, Close to all of the features DO start at a higher level, including the most important one, pvp. he didn't even make his first class change yet.also notice how he says korean MMO's don't have an AH. funny thing is, Lineage 2 DOES have an AH. its just not in the starter town, the only town he has been to. its like going to a theme park, walk trough the entrance, then walk right out without going into any of the rides, telling everybody how much it sucks.
Someone bring in a ref to do a 10 count. I think Darkchronic just got knocked the f*** out.
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THis game is horrible and i think its worse then dark and light.
Yes it does matter what level one reaches. If the op would have actually played for a reasonable amount of time, he would have seen that there are plenty of players around, they are at the higher level towns. Also, Close to all of the features DO start at a higher level, including the most important one, pvp. he didn't even make his first class change yet.also notice how he says korean MMO's don't have an AH. funny thing is, Lineage 2 DOES have an AH. its just not in the starter town, the only town he has been to. its like going to a theme park, walk trough the entrance, then walk right out without going into any of the rides, telling everybody how much it sucks.
Someone bring in a ref to do a 10 count. I think Darkchronic just got knocked the f*** out.
No, I'm still here, I'm also pretty sure this isn't a boxing match.
I didn't dispute the population thing, because when I played (some time last year, just before Chronicle 4, I think.) Teon was always full of people, even in the Dwarf starting areas, I saw many people, one guy even gave me expensive soulshots. The fact that all the good content starts at a high level isn't a good thing, at all, well, yeah, he hadn't made his class change, but from what I remember, it didn't really change much. The OP's point about an auction house seemed a bit odd, as L2 does have one, I never used it, so can't say anything about it.
I think the metaphor would go something like this: He walked into the theme park free, yet he saw that he'd have to crawl through 100 metres of turgid slime before reaching the rides, amazingly fantastic rides, rivalled by only a few other theme parks, which all have flaws themselves. He crawls through the first 10 metres, and either not knowing about the rides at the end, or thinking they're not worth it, he gives up.
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Yes it does matter what level one reaches. If the op would have actually played for a reasonable amount of time, he would have seen that there are plenty of players around, they are at the higher level towns. Also, Close to all of the features DO start at a higher level, including the most important one, pvp. he didn't even make his first class change yet.also notice how he says korean MMO's don't have an AH. funny thing is, Lineage 2 DOES have an AH. its just not in the starter town, the only town he has been to. its like going to a theme park, walk trough the entrance, then walk right out without going into any of the rides, telling everybody how much it sucks.
Someone bring in a ref to do a 10 count. I think Darkchronic just got knocked the f*** out.
No, I'm still here, I'm also pretty sure this isn't a boxing match.
I didn't dispute the population thing, because when I played (some time last year, just before Chronicle 4, I think.) Teon was always full of people, even in the Dwarf starting areas, I saw many people, one guy even gave me expensive soulshots. The fact that all the good content starts at a high level isn't a good thing, at all, well, yeah, he hadn't made his class change, but from what I remember, it didn't really change much. The OP's point about an auction house seemed a bit odd, as L2 does have one, I never used it, so can't say anything about it.
I think the metaphor would go something like this: He walked into the theme park free, yet he saw that he'd have to crawl through 100 metres of turgid slime before reaching the rides, amazingly fantastic rides, rivalled by only a few other theme parks, which all have flaws themselves. He crawls through the first 10 metres, and either not knowing about the rides at the end, or thinking they're not worth it, he gives up.
exactly people have to go through HELL to reach the fun part of the game. A game is supposed to be fun all the time not just at the end.
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First, thank you very much for re-infocing your childish behavior, that way on the off chance that someone reads your posts and might have a sllight idea to take it semi-seriously, that know exactly who it's comming form now.
And by the way, if you managed to get to level 11 without more then 1 damage spell, then you again you either paid ZERO attention to the game itself or you in fact have no playd it at all, which looks more and more likely now. By 11, you should have at least 2 dmg spell, 1 long rang high power, 1 slow effact med range med power, heals, weapon and armor masterys.
Either learn to play or don't talk about games you've never touched, pure and simple.
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I agree and that is why I don't play it. The game is supposed to be ENJOYABLE from level 1 and on and it is not for me. Grind = boring, I did it for 4 years in EQ, why on earth should I do it again? Some exact thing with WoW ..solo grinding = boring to get to the fun part - raiding and PvP and I don't play that game either.
I love some of the responses to this thread, which seem to imply that making games that force you to grind through huge sections of content that are mind numblingy dull, repetitive and boring to get to the "good stuff" later on is good game design. MMOs should be fun. If they aren't fun right from the start, then that's bad design. "How can you tell you didn't like the game?! You didn't grind for 6 months to get to the actual fun part of the game!". No thanks.
Level 10.... LOL.
One of the things I absolutely HATED about L2 was the private shops, moving around Giran (is that the right name?) was impossible, due to the lag the shops caused.
Edit: And Vendris, that is exactly what I mean, just you conveyed it better.
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LOL, someone should tell him that the leveling part (what he calls solo-grinding) is considered to be the fun part by most people in WOW... they complain when it ends and they are "stuck" with only raiding and the weak PvP...
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I remember back in open beta; all the newbie areas were packed. There was huge competition over mob spawns and some very interesting social dynamics came about because of it. Toes were getting stepped on, egos were bumping in to each other. PVP would break out all over the place and it lead for a very exciting newbie game.
Nowadays, newbie areas are desolate and the goal is to get through the first 20 levels as fast as possible. Newbie helper NPCs and starter shots have been added to help with this, but it's sad that what originally was a great hook to the game has degraded into a desert of inactivity. I guess this can be said about all MMOs, though.
One thing that has always confused me is that your character changes so dramatically at lv20 (and to a lesser extent, lv40). When you hit that first class transfer your character can potentially transform into something completely different than what you've been playing for the last 20 levels.
And speaking of lv20 transfers, whoever created the Scavenger quest was derranged.
I think NCsoft should add a wide variety of meaningful, low level, low SP skills for pre-20 characters to try out their options. Notice i said meaningful, ie. give mystics an option other than spam wind strike solo for the first 20 levels. Give them some more buffs or a summon. Afterall, ow can you tell, prior to lv20, that you want to be a buffer when all you do is nuke mobs with windstrike? If you've never made a character before, you probably don't even know that such an option exists.
In this respect, L2 requires some research and planning. New players should look up the lv40 classes and read about them on forums. Unfortunately the L2 playerbase is especially bad, as this is a very cutthroat game that encourages you to do whatever is necessary to meet your goals (underhanded techniques are very prevalent here).
I played retail for well over a year and have played on various private servers on and off ever since. I could write a class description guide that explains the gameplay of all the lv40+ classes, but it would probably be dated as i haven't played C5 yet. I don't know, talk me in to it
edit: Nevermind, there already is one as a sticky in the L2 forum (go figure). If you're just starting to get into L2, GO READ IT
Ok, the problem is that you don't understand this game. Doesn't mean you are going to like it, but you need to understand what it is about.
This game is about clans, alliances and player vs player conflict. The quests are boring and there is a grind (and if you think 1-10 is hard try 75+).
The reason there are fewer places in the new player areas is because the nature of the game is to level up and get into a clan as quickly as you can. It is no fun to screw around in your teens and take your time to get to lvl 20 (first class transfer) because players are not going to think you are serious and will not want to recruit you (I believe you need to be 20+ for the new academy but I am not sure)
This game is about pvp. There doesn't need to be an auction house because part of this game is playing the economy. That is done through player run stores. Take a trip to Giran and tell me that there are no players in this game. Just make sure you turn down your computer settings.
If you like pvp, epic raid bosses, alliance vs alliance intrigue, pking, revenge, and having a clan being just more than a chat room while you do quests (you rely upon your clan, they become your brotherhood) then L2 is your game.
But if you don't like any of this then yes, there is not much to recommend.
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