I seen on a site that I wont metion here with my own eyes some disgusting videos of soldier criminal acts and stupidity. If you wana the site PM me and I will get you a link but I wont post it in the open forums because some of the videos are graphic beyond belief. 1 video it showed a US soldier walk up to a dog that was sitting there and while he was laughing he shot the dog a few times with his m16 and then switched to his sidearm to get a kill shot, 2nd vid shows what looks like US soldiers shooting random cars while driving on the road and lots of vidoes that just make me wonder why people get so evil.
I also know there are alot of good soldiers and the good are more then the bad but the bad really stick out and make it difficult for the honorable troops. Imo troops that give their forces a bad image and cause hatred towards their comrades are just as bad as the enemy.
Those soldiers are under allot of pressure and know they can be killed any moment. When you are in situations like that, some people tend to go a little nuts. We dont know how long they have been there either. Not sure of the tour of Duty there now.
You also have to remember, terrorists use kids too, so it looks like they have been hardened to the fact they could be the enemy.
I am not condoning that video, its just maybe those guys are losing it to some extent.
Did any of you see the movie "Jarhead"? That movie would put that video in perspective.
Edit: I do not like the OP's Topic either, since he has no background on the soldiers and generalized all Marines.
You might as well show a US citizen or a EU citizen commit murder and say how you hate all of those people.
The video of the guy and the head being vut off thing, that was made by muslim extreamist. That is gross and perverted for a human to do that to another person. But those were extreamist. They do not represent all arabs or muslims. Once again, you guys are grouping them all the same.
As for the kids throwing rock at the trucks... let me ask you, if France and England were to invade us because they did not like President Bush, do you think us American kids would not throw rocks at their trucks? I know I would. Should they make me and my friends run 2 miles in 95+ heat to get a single water bottle? No. Should they be punished? Yes.
Originally posted by outfctrl Those soldiers are under allot of pressure and know they can be killed any moment. When you are in situations like that, some people tend to go a little nuts. We dont know how long they have been there either. Not sure of the tour of Duty there now. You also have to remember, terrorists use kids too, so it looks like they have been hardened to the fact they could be the enemy.
I am not condoning that video, its just maybe those guys are losing it to some extent.
Did any of you see the movie "Jarhead"? That movie would put that video in perspective.
Edit: I do not like the OP's Topic either, since he has no background on the soldiers and generalized all Marines. You might as well show a US citizen or a EU citizen commit murder and say how you hate all of those people.
Agreed. It's not gonna help any of the Iraqi's who have been abused by soldiers but I thunk the troops ovr there are showing a whole lot of restraint.
Also... I've seen tourists do much, much, much worse things to street kids. Hell, I've seen cops do much much worse things to domestic street kids. Even in my own country.
Originally posted by LostGrace The video of the guy and the head being vut off thing, that was made by muslim extreamist. That is gross and perverted for a human to do that to another person. But those were extreamist. They do not represent all arabs or muslims. Once again, you guys are grouping them all the same.
As for the kids throwing rock at the trucks... let me ask you, if France and England were to invade us because they did not like President Bush, do you think us American kids would not throw rocks at their trucks? I know I would. Should they make me and my friends run 2 miles in 95+ heat to get a single water bottle? No. Should they be punished? Yes.
I showed you two sides of the spectrum. The muslim extremists are the soldiers of the enemy, I can most definately clump them into one group. Notice in my quote how I said "the enemy" not muslims or arabs.
Originally posted by grimweeper Originally posted by LostGrace Should they make me and my friends run 2 miles in 95+ heat to get a single water bottle?
If your dumb enough to do it why not? Theyre lucky they even got that bottle of water.
Now let me ask you this, if a kid was trying to kill you yesturday would you give him water today? So if one kid does something, all of them deserve to be harassed?
Originally posted by LostGrace The video of the guy and the head being vut off thing, that was made by muslim extreamist. That is gross and perverted for a human to do that to another person. But those were extreamist. They do not represent all arabs or muslims. Once again, you guys are grouping them all the same.
As for the kids throwing rock at the trucks... let me ask you, if France and England were to invade us because they did not like President Bush, do you think us American kids would not throw rocks at their trucks? I know I would. Should they make me and my friends run 2 miles in 95+ heat to get a single water bottle? No. Should they be punished? Yes.
I really don't care about your opinion on this matter, but please take a consistent stance on this issue. Yes, the decapitation video was made by extremists, and they don't represent the population as a whole. Similarly, the water bottle video was made by a small group of servicemen, and do not represent Americans as a whole.
As for your second part, who "made" the kids run 2 miles? On top of that, why exactly should they be punished? You do realize, if we punished every soldier who ever did such harmless bullshit, there would be noone to fight the war.
Get over it man. A few marines filmed themselves teasing some kids. It is not a big deal, and you are trying to make it one.
Originally posted by LostGrace Originally posted by grimweeper Originally posted by LostGrace Should they make me and my friends run 2 miles in 95+ heat to get a single water bottle?
If your dumb enough to do it why not? Theyre lucky they even got that bottle of water.
Now let me ask you this, if a kid was trying to kill you yesturday would you give him water today? So if one kid does something, all of them deserve to be harassed? No, im just making a point. I mean what if the soldier had a bad day, everything and everybody was pissing him off, then i could see why he did it, maybe seeing someone suffer would make him feel better. Its like the same thing bully's do in schools, they had a bad day so they take it out on others.
To all you hollier then thou freaking idiots spouting off about how you would have acted... Take your ass to the elistment office and have your lame ass sent over to a Country that you never wanted to go to in the first place, fighting for a senseless conflict, for a idiot War Mongering President, leaving your wife/kids/girlfriend/family for a year or more, have people constantly look at you with disgust, throw things at ya, try to blow you up, shoot at you, try to capture you to cut your freaking head off, Snipe ya, have your girlfriend/family/wife/friend send you letters about how your other half is cheating on ya, or check your bank account and find out that your other half is spending all your hard earned money at the mall or on her man and then tell me how the Fuck your going to act.
Those guys over there for the most part are going throw stress that most of you would not understand. Cut them some got damn slack you freaking punk ass lazy civilians.
------------------------------ You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
Originally posted by Tinybina To all you hollier then thou freaking idiots spouting off about how you would have acted... Take your ass to the elistment office and have your lame ass sent over to a Country that you never wanted to go to in the first place, fighting for a senseless conflict, for a idiot War Mongering President, leaving your wife/kids/girlfriend/family for a year or more, have people constantly look at you with disgust, throw things at ya, try to blow you up, shoot at you, try to capture you to cut your freaking head off, Snipe ya, have your girlfriend/family/wife/friend send you letters about how your other half is cheating on ya, or check your bank account and find out that your other half is spending all your hard earned money at the mall or on her man and then tell me how the Fuck your going to act.
Those guys over there for the most part are going throw stress that most of you would not understand. Cut them some got damn slack you freaking punk ass lazy civilians.
So if I feel alittle stressed and depressed I can grab my dads shotgun, go to the mall and start shooting people?
Soldiers are supposed to get education and training, and they are supposed to go through inhumane conditions, stress and pain. Any soldier that can't cope with those things has to get the fuck out of the army, because he isn't qualified. And there are no excuses at all. And you should bloody well not give people like that some slack.
Soldiers are supposed to be sent somewhere for a reason. They are supposed to not have to pay for their own kevlar vest. They are supposed to receive orders from educated people who make educated decisions. Not by a bunch of appointed (or even worse, elected) morons who care about getting reappointed/reelected in stead of saving those kids in Iraq or elsewhere.
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You don't find it at all odd that only children, young children, were chasing it? There were a lot of people on the street, no one else gave a shit. I don't think it was about the water at all, it was probably a game or something that was edited to look like a guy depriving the kids of water or something stupid like that. Don't believe everything you see, yes, it's ok to have a mind of your own. At the end of that video the water is grabbed by a group of adults. So it's not just the children. The reason the children run after the soldiers is presumably because the soldiers are in the habit of giving stuff to kids.
The first link may seem disturbing, but there could also be a logical explaination to the actions, such as it's being diseased or more likely they hit it on the road and put it out of it's misery.
The second link is supposedly a civilian contractor that essentially went nuts and was arrested after the linked episode.
Originally posted by Phoenixs Originally posted by Tinybina To all you hollier then thou freaking idiots spouting off about how you would have acted... Take your ass to the elistment office and have your lame ass sent over to a Country that you never wanted to go to in the first place, fighting for a senseless conflict, for a idiot War Mongering President, leaving your wife/kids/girlfriend/family for a year or more, have people constantly look at you with disgust, throw things at ya, try to blow you up, shoot at you, try to capture you to cut your freaking head off, Snipe ya, have your girlfriend/family/wife/friend send you letters about how your other half is cheating on ya, or check your bank account and find out that your other half is spending all your hard earned money at the mall or on her man and then tell me how the Fuck your going to act.
Those guys over there for the most part are going throw stress that most of you would not understand. Cut them some got damn slack you freaking punk ass lazy civilians.
So if I feel alittle stressed and depressed I can grab my dads shotgun, go to the mall and start shooting people?
Soldiers are supposed to get education and training, and they are supposed to go through inhumane conditions, stress and pain. Any soldier that can't cope with those things has to get the fuck out of the army, because he isn't qualified. And there are no excuses at all. And you should bloody well not give people like that some slack.
No moron, but then agian that doesn't stop alot of you retarded Civilians from doing just that.. Compare crimes commeted by average by people in the Armed forces to Crimes commeted by you stank lazy fat arse Civilians who whine and complain all day, and its not even close.. You idiots don't have to go through near the amount of stress thoughs guys are going over there but that doesn't stop alot of ya from running around shooting up, or shooting someone.
I never said what that troop did was right, I just said cut him some slack. Atleast he didn't go into a school and start blowing people away when he got upset like some of you stank lazy whinny Civilians who think you got it so hard.
**** at hate American Civilians, all most of them do is put down the freaking Military left and right, all while sitting their little fat butt in their nice cozy homes...I truly hope one of these days America starts doing what other countries do in that it makes people join the Military.
------------------------------ You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
Originally posted by Laserwolf If the kids were in danger of dying from dehydration or something of the like these men might deserve a good punch in the face, hell they deserve it anyway. I personally find more fault with the fact that these are the people we are sending over there. When you spread your military thin and still need more you are going to have to let in those who shouldn't be normally allowed to make life or death decisions. This is why it pisses me off, or at least one of the reasons, when most Conservatives rant about the media being biased when they choose to use their coverage to cover the deaths of Iraqi Civilians and Police as well as our own troops instead of showing more video of troops handing out candy. For every 5-10 American Soldiers who hand out candy you have 2-3 of these assholes.
If that kid was in danger of dying from dehydration he certainly would not have been able to run that far for a drink. Not only that, but running that far merely drums up the thirst for a full bottle of water
Originally posted by LostGrace The video of the guy and the head being vut off thing, that was made by muslim extreamist. That is gross and perverted for a human to do that to another person. But those were extreamist. They do not represent all arabs or muslims. Once again, you guys are grouping them all the same.
WOW dude can you not see how inconsistant you are being now? Good lord man.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Originally posted by Infliction If that kid was in danger of dying from dehydration he certainly would not have been able to run that far for a drink. Not only that, but running that far merely drums up the thirst for a full bottle of water
Did any of think maybe it wasnt water he was running after? Maybe they wanted some money and the soldier threw him a bottle of water for his effort. Except it was thrown in front of other people. That could have been on purpose.
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I seen on a site that I wont metion here with my own eyes some disgusting videos of soldier criminal acts and stupidity. If you wana the site PM me and I will get you a link but I wont post it in the open forums because some of the videos are graphic beyond belief. 1 video it showed a US soldier walk up to a dog that was sitting there and while he was laughing he shot the dog a few times with his m16 and then switched to his sidearm to get a kill shot, 2nd vid shows what looks like US soldiers shooting random cars while driving on the road and lots of vidoes that just make me wonder why people get so evil.
I also know there are alot of good soldiers and the good are more then the bad but the bad really stick out and make it difficult for the honorable troops. Imo troops that give their forces a bad image and cause hatred towards their comrades are just as bad as the enemy.
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any moment. When you are in situations like that, some people
tend to go a little nuts. We dont know how long they have been
there either. Not sure of the tour of Duty there now.
You also have to remember, terrorists use kids too, so it looks like
they have been hardened to the fact they could be the enemy.
I am not condoning that video, its just maybe those guys are losing it to some extent.
Did any of you see the movie "Jarhead"? That movie would put that video in perspective.
Edit: I do not like the OP's Topic either, since he has no background on the soldiers and generalized all Marines.
You might as well show a US citizen or a EU citizen commit murder and say how you hate all of those people.
Lol... that was quite funny to be honest (the video by the OP... not whatever is being discussed now)
And yes I can admit to being sociopathic... but so what?
We all loled at that video...
...on the inside...
...well atleast I did anyway
As for the kids throwing rock at the trucks... let me ask you, if France and England were to invade us because they did not like President Bush, do you think us American kids would not throw rocks at their trucks? I know I would. Should they make me and my friends run 2 miles in 95+ heat to get a single water bottle? No. Should they be punished? Yes.
Agreed. It's not gonna help any of the Iraqi's who have been abused by soldiers but I thunk the troops ovr there are showing a whole lot of restraint.
Also... I've seen tourists do much, much, much worse things to street kids.
Hell, I've seen cops do much much worse things to domestic street kids. Even in my own country.
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I showed you two sides of the spectrum. The muslim extremists are the soldiers of the enemy, I can most definately clump them into one group. Notice in my quote how I said "the enemy" not muslims or arabs.
Now let me ask you this, if a kid was trying to kill you yesturday would you give him water today?
And more. I'd continue to do so. See if he will try to kill me tomorrow.
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Now let me ask you this, if a kid was trying to kill you yesturday would you give him water today?
So if one kid does something, all of them deserve to be harassed?
As for your second part, who "made" the kids run 2 miles? On top of that, why exactly should they be punished? You do realize, if we punished every soldier who ever did such harmless bullshit, there would be noone to fight the war.
Get over it man. A few marines filmed themselves teasing some kids. It is not a big deal, and you are trying to make it one.
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Now let me ask you this, if a kid was trying to kill you yesturday would you give him water today?
So if one kid does something, all of them deserve to be harassed?
No, im just making a point. I mean what if the soldier had a bad day, everything and everybody was pissing him off, then i could see why he did it, maybe seeing someone suffer would make him feel better. Its like the same thing bully's do in schools, they had a bad day so they take it out on others.
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That wasn't directed at your weenie.
Those guys over there for the most part are going throw stress that most of you would not understand. Cut them some got damn slack you freaking punk ass lazy civilians.
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
Soldiers are supposed to get education and training, and they are supposed to go through inhumane conditions, stress and pain. Any soldier that can't cope with those things has to get the fuck out of the army, because he isn't qualified. And there are no excuses at all. And you should bloody well not give people like that some slack.
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At the end of that video the water is grabbed by a group of adults. So it's not just the children.
The reason the children run after the soldiers is presumably because the soldiers are in the habit of giving stuff to kids.
Those were kids.
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The first link may seem disturbing, but there could also be a logical explaination to the actions, such as it's being diseased or more likely they hit it on the road and put it out of it's misery.
The second link is supposedly a civilian contractor that essentially went nuts and was arrested after the linked episode.
Soldiers are supposed to get education and training, and they are supposed to go through inhumane conditions, stress and pain. Any soldier that can't cope with those things has to get the fuck out of the army, because he isn't qualified. And there are no excuses at all. And you should bloody well not give people like that some slack.
No moron, but then agian that doesn't stop alot of you retarded Civilians from doing just that.. Compare crimes commeted by average by people in the Armed forces to Crimes commeted by you stank lazy fat arse Civilians who whine and complain all day, and its not even close.. You idiots don't have to go through near the amount of stress thoughs guys are going over there but that doesn't stop alot of ya from running around shooting up, or shooting someone.
I never said what that troop did was right, I just said cut him some slack. Atleast he didn't go into a school and start blowing people away when he got upset like some of you stank lazy whinny Civilians who think you got it so hard.
**** at hate American Civilians, all most of them do is put down the freaking Military left and right, all while sitting their little fat butt in their nice cozy homes...I truly hope one of these days America starts doing what other countries do in that it makes people join the Military.
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
any of think maybe it wasnt water he was running after? Maybe
they wanted some money and the soldier threw him a bottle of water for
his effort. Except it was thrown in front of other people.
That could have been on purpose.