Originally posted by Tinybina Originally posted by Phoenixs Originally posted by Tinybina To all you hollier then thou freaking idiots spouting off about how you would have acted... Take your ass to the elistment office and have your lame ass sent over to a Country that you never wanted to go to in the first place, fighting for a senseless conflict, for a idiot War Mongering President, leaving your wife/kids/girlfriend/family for a year or more, have people constantly look at you with disgust, throw things at ya, try to blow you up, shoot at you, try to capture you to cut your freaking head off, Snipe ya, have your girlfriend/family/wife/friend send you letters about how your other half is cheating on ya, or check your bank account and find out that your other half is spending all your hard earned money at the mall or on her man and then tell me how the Fuck your going to act.
Those guys over there for the most part are going throw stress that most of you would not understand. Cut them some got damn slack you freaking punk ass lazy civilians.
So if I feel alittle stressed and depressed I can grab my dads shotgun, go to the mall and start shooting people?
Soldiers are supposed to get education and training, and they are supposed to go through inhumane conditions, stress and pain. Any soldier that can't cope with those things has to get the fuck out of the army, because he isn't qualified. And there are no excuses at all. And you should bloody well not give people like that some slack.
No moron, but then agian that doesn't stop alot of you retarded Civilians from doing just that.. Compare crimes commeted by average by people in the Armed forces to Crimes commeted by you stank lazy fat arse Civilians who whine and complain all day, and its not even close.. You idiots don't have to go through near the amount of stress thoughs guys are going over there but that doesn't stop alot of ya from running around shooting up, or shooting someone.
I never said what that troop did was right, I just said cut him some slack. Atleast he didn't go into a school and start blowing people away when he got upset like some of you stank lazy whinny Civilians who think you got it so hard.
**** at hate American Civilians, all most of them do is put down the freaking Military left and right, all while sitting their little fat butt in their nice cozy homes...I truly hope one of these days America starts doing what other countries do in that it makes people join the Military.
Yes, moron.
WHen you join the military you are suppose to act super human in your restraint and patience. They train you for that. if you cant do it then gtfo.
Originally posted by Tinybina Originally posted by Phoenixs Originally posted by Tinybina To all you hollier then thou freaking idiots spouting off about how you would have acted... Take your ass to the elistment office and have your lame ass sent over to a Country that you never wanted to go to in the first place, fighting for a senseless conflict, for a idiot War Mongering President, leaving your wife/kids/girlfriend/family for a year or more, have people constantly look at you with disgust, throw things at ya, try to blow you up, shoot at you, try to capture you to cut your freaking head off, Snipe ya, have your girlfriend/family/wife/friend send you letters about how your other half is cheating on ya, or check your bank account and find out that your other half is spending all your hard earned money at the mall or on her man and then tell me how the Fuck your going to act.
Those guys over there for the most part are going throw stress that most of you would not understand. Cut them some got damn slack you freaking punk ass lazy civilians.
So if I feel alittle stressed and depressed I can grab my dads shotgun, go to the mall and start shooting people?
Soldiers are supposed to get education and training, and they are supposed to go through inhumane conditions, stress and pain. Any soldier that can't cope with those things has to get the fuck out of the army, because he isn't qualified. And there are no excuses at all. And you should bloody well not give people like that some slack.
No moron, but then agian that doesn't stop alot of you retarded Civilians from doing just that.. Compare crimes commeted by average by people in the Armed forces to Crimes commeted by you stank lazy fat arse Civilians who whine and complain all day, and its not even close.. You idiots don't have to go through near the amount of stress thoughs guys are going over there but that doesn't stop alot of ya from running around shooting up, or shooting someone.
I never said what that troop did was right, I just said cut him some slack. Atleast he didn't go into a school and start blowing people away when he got upset like some of you stank lazy whinny Civilians who think you got it so hard.
**** at hate American Civilians, all most of them do is put down the freaking Military left and right, all while sitting their little fat butt in their nice cozy homes...I truly hope one of these days America starts doing what other countries do in that it makes people join the Military.
Still, somebody who can't do his job, shouldn't be doing his job. End of discussion.
War is dehumanising, no matter how well trained, discuplined or good at his job, atrocities will happen. They are a byproduct of war.
Civilians are guilty of a whole lot less atrocities than soldiers. The Army breeds deranged gunman types and have been known to bomb schools in Iraq for example. (Weddings too).
Originally posted by Infliction If that kid was in danger of dying from dehydration he certainly would not have been able to run that far for a drink. Not only that, but running that far merely drums up the thirst for a full bottle of water
Did any of think maybe it wasnt water he was running after? Maybe they wanted some money and the soldier threw him a bottle of water for his effort. Except it was thrown in front of other people. That could have been on purpose.
Originally posted by daeandor Originally posted by LostGrace
Yes, moron.
WHen you join the military you are suppose to act super human in your restraint and patience. They train you for that. if you cant do it then gtfo. You don't have a clue do you? Must not if you think I don't.
If the US had a multi-National force Iraq would probably be secure but since they went in with limited support and limited personel they are failing. They have not secures the borders to stop 10000's of new insurgents from getting in, they cant secure the border because they dont have enough soldiers to do that. They did not get help from other regional powers, Iran,Syria,Saudi,Qatar,Yemen could have all lent help and soldiers in the appropriate areas like Saudi suni muslims go to help suni Iraq districts and Iran Shia muslims help the Shia Iraqi? The sectarian violence is also a product of the total lack of civil progress made after the US toppled Saddam, not enough jobs, not enough food/water, not enough security, no real civilian infrastructure and no clear path to get out of this mess.
Originally posted by daeandor Originally posted by LostGrace <snip>
Yes, moron.
WHen you join the military you are suppose to act super human in your restraint and patience. They train you for that. if you cant do it then gtfo.
You don't have a clue do you?
QFT. Military training does nothing even remotely what LostGrace is talking about.
I bet he doesn't know that the most hardcore soldiers are the hardest partying ones. lol. I've known SF and Rangers, to go out and drink until they pass out at 4am. Sleep for an hour. Wake up and go run 8 miles at a 6min/mile pace.
Not only that, but name one place in the United States where you can go to a GAS STATION and buy Everclear, Goldschlagger, or Jose Quervo. After you rack your brain for a few hours and search the internet, looking for a place like that........ Go to your nearest military post's gas station.
I thought that was a little mean at first, but then it really did appear to me that the kids were sort of enjoying the attention myself, and as far as you making the comment that makes you want to shoot a Marine in the head I think you are over reacting,,, its not like they were harming anything or anyone and if you are a guy I'm sure you have done stuff yourself, maybe nothing like that but I am sure you have pulled some kind of prank or joke sometime in your life. ( I havent seen many guys who hasnt yet.)
Originally posted by LostGrace Originally posted by daeandor Originally posted by LostGrace
Yes, moron.
WHen you join the military you are suppose to act super human in your restraint and patience. They train you for that. if you cant do it then gtfo. You don't have a clue do you? Must not if you think I don't.
I don't think, I know. On the subject of the military, you don't have a clue. They don't train you to act super-human in restraint and patience. They train you to shoot, move, and communicate. They train you to overcome adversity. They train you to lead from the front. They train you to close with and destroy the enemy. I think what you are referring to though is the fact that the guy holding the water bottle was a Sergeant, and he should have been setting a better example for the soldiers with him.
If that is the case then I have lost fatih in this country's ability to protect itself. With such asshats that could turn and kill his whole squad from pressure.
hah, then they ounish deserters, yet they dont change these peoples mind sets about what to do in a dangerouse situation.
Originally posted by LostGrace If that is the case then I have lost fatih in this country's ability to protect itself. With such asshats that could turn and kill his whole squad from pressure.
hah, then they ounish deserters, yet they dont change these peoples mind sets about what to do in a dangerouse situation.
Lostgrace..the reason stuff like that doesn't happen: These men aren't insane, so the odds of one turning around and opening up on his squad for no reason are nearly non existant. Your hyperbole of an example really doesn't fly.
Of course they punish deserters, they are supposed working for the United States military and have left their job...why wouldn't they be punished? Oh...do you want them to go to sensitivity training and special camps in order to change their mind set? please. Anyone who voluntarily joins the military and then deserts has no business being in the military at all.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
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Soldiers are supposed to get education and training, and they are supposed to go through inhumane conditions, stress and pain. Any soldier that can't cope with those things has to get the fuck out of the army, because he isn't qualified. And there are no excuses at all. And you should bloody well not give people like that some slack.
No moron, but then agian that doesn't stop alot of you retarded Civilians from doing just that.. Compare crimes commeted by average by people in the Armed forces to Crimes commeted by you stank lazy fat arse Civilians who whine and complain all day, and its not even close.. You idiots don't have to go through near the amount of stress thoughs guys are going over there but that doesn't stop alot of ya from running around shooting up, or shooting someone.
I never said what that troop did was right, I just said cut him some slack. Atleast he didn't go into a school and start blowing people away when he got upset like some of you stank lazy whinny Civilians who think you got it so hard.
**** at hate American Civilians, all most of them do is put down the freaking Military left and right, all while sitting their little fat butt in their nice cozy homes...I truly hope one of these days America starts doing what other countries do in that it makes people join the Military.
Yes, moron.
WHen you join the military you are suppose to act super human in your restraint and patience. They train you for that. if you cant do it then gtfo.
Soldiers are supposed to get education and training, and they are supposed to go through inhumane conditions, stress and pain. Any soldier that can't cope with those things has to get the fuck out of the army, because he isn't qualified. And there are no excuses at all. And you should bloody well not give people like that some slack.
No moron, but then agian that doesn't stop alot of you retarded Civilians from doing just that.. Compare crimes commeted by average by people in the Armed forces to Crimes commeted by you stank lazy fat arse Civilians who whine and complain all day, and its not even close.. You idiots don't have to go through near the amount of stress thoughs guys are going over there but that doesn't stop alot of ya from running around shooting up, or shooting someone.
I never said what that troop did was right, I just said cut him some slack. Atleast he didn't go into a school and start blowing people away when he got upset like some of you stank lazy whinny Civilians who think you got it so hard.
**** at hate American Civilians, all most of them do is put down the freaking Military left and right, all while sitting their little fat butt in their nice cozy homes...I truly hope one of these days America starts doing what other countries do in that it makes people join the Military.
Still, somebody who can't do his job, shouldn't be doing his job. End of discussion.
War is dehumanising, no matter how well trained, discuplined or good at his job, atrocities will happen. They are a byproduct of war.
Civilians are guilty of a whole lot less atrocities than soldiers. The Army breeds deranged gunman types and have been known to bomb schools in Iraq for example. (Weddings too).
Maybe the water bottle was full of drugs.
WHen you join the military you are suppose to act super human in your restraint and patience. They train you for that. if you cant do it then gtfo.
You don't have a clue do you?
They're trained to kill, not to fight wars against a geurilla army while they have to see who's the enemy and who not in a milisecond.
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They have been fighting guerilla armies exclusively for about 5 years now.
If they are not trained for it by now, they are never going to be.
See Vietnam.
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WHen you join the military you are suppose to act super human in your restraint and patience. They train you for that. if you cant do it then gtfo.
You don't have a clue do you?
Must not if you think I don't.
Nonsense. The British have fought and defeated numerous guerilla armies with conventional ones.
See Malaya and Borneo, also South Africa.
As far as I know the only way to destroy an insurgency is by destroying its root.
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WHen you join the military you are suppose to act super human in your restraint and patience. They train you for that. if you cant do it then gtfo.
You don't have a clue do you?
QFT. Military training does nothing even remotely what LostGrace is talking about.
I bet he doesn't know that the most hardcore soldiers are the hardest partying ones. lol. I've known SF and Rangers, to go out and drink until they pass out at 4am. Sleep for an hour. Wake up and go run 8 miles at a 6min/mile pace.
Not only that, but name one place in the United States where you can go to a GAS STATION and buy Everclear, Goldschlagger, or Jose Quervo. After you rack your brain for a few hours and search the internet, looking for a place like that........ Go to your nearest military post's gas station.
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I thought that was a little mean at first, but then it really did appear to me that the kids were sort of enjoying the attention myself, and as far as you making the comment that makes you want to shoot a Marine in the head I think you are over reacting,,, its not like they were harming anything or anyone and if you are a guy I'm sure you have done stuff yourself, maybe nothing like that but I am sure you have pulled some kind of prank or joke sometime in your life. ( I havent seen many guys who hasnt yet.)
WHen you join the military you are suppose to act super human in your restraint and patience. They train you for that. if you cant do it then gtfo.
You don't have a clue do you?
Must not if you think I don't.
I don't think, I know. On the subject of the military, you don't have a clue. They don't train you to act super-human in restraint and patience. They train you to shoot, move, and communicate. They train you to overcome adversity. They train you to lead from the front. They train you to close with and destroy the enemy. I think what you are referring to though is the fact that the guy holding the water bottle was a Sergeant, and he should have been setting a better example for the soldiers with him.
hah, then they ounish deserters, yet they dont change these peoples mind sets about what to do in a dangerouse situation.
Lostgrace..the reason stuff like that doesn't happen: These men aren't insane, so the odds of one turning around and opening up on his squad for no reason are nearly non existant. Your hyperbole of an example really doesn't fly.
Of course they punish deserters, they are supposed working for the United States military and have left their job...why wouldn't they be punished? Oh...do you want them to go to sensitivity training and special camps in order to change their mind set? please. Anyone who voluntarily joins the military and then deserts has no business being in the military at all.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.