I don't need a scientist or some psychiatrist to research and try and find if homosexuality is wrong or not. I have my bible right here from the creator who made and designed your body and how its supposed to function and what he says on the subject of homosexuality is more truth than any scientist or unbiased opinion or psychiatrist can say. the problem with this argument is a matter of morality, morals come from man and what they are designed to believe and know right from wrong, what is happening now days is people have no sense of morals anymore they're trying to rewrite morals and question its authority and that path is a path of destruction.
I don't need a scientist or some psychiatrist to research and try and find if homosexuality is wrong or not. I have my bible right here from the creator who made and designed your body and how its supposed to function and what he says on the subject of homosexuality is more truth than any scientist or unbiased opinion or psychiatrist can say. the problem with this argument is a matter of morality, morals come from man and what they are designed to believe and know right from wrong, what is happening now days is people have no sense of morals anymore they're trying to rewrite morals and question its authority and that path is a path of destruction.
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I suppose it depends if you're talking about religious morality or the concept of morality. Not everyone follows the codes of the various religious books/scriptures, vague as they may be, simply because not everyone belongs to a religion. The concept of morality on the other hand is always changing, and ironically that's just normal.
If they wanna be accepted, they must act NORMAL. We don't have straight pride, there should be no gay pride either. As long as they do like everybody else they should be fine. But they doesn't seem smart enough to understand that.
They doesn't seem smart enough?
Anyway, as I stated before, when heterosexuals and homosexuals have equal rights in society, I'll agree with what you said.
In my opinion homosexuality is a societal cancer, as it spreads through a society it completely destroys that societies ability to propagate, or at least hempers it. Parades are simply a way to spread that cancer by implanting the idea in our youth that it's pefectly normal to be a sexual deviant, or worse it's normal AND extemely fun. If you're queer and I've insulted you, I'm not sorry, get back in your closet. I'll not touch on religous implications against homosexuality since the vocal majority of this board seem to focus on secularism opposed to the divine.
In my opinion homosexuality is a societal cancer, as it spreads through a society it completely destroys that societies ability to propagate, or at least hempers it. Parades are simply a way to spread that cancer by implanting the idea in our youth that it's pefectly normal to be a sexual deviant, or worse it's normal AND extemely fun. If you're queer and I've insulted you, I'm not sorry, get back in your closet. I'll not touch on religous implications against homosexuality since the vocal majority of this board seem to focus on secularism opposed to the divine.
It hempers our ability to propogate? I think bad spelling hampers our ability to propagate. Way to misspell both of your "intelligent" words.
How is the acceptance of homosexuality a cancer to society? Back that opinion up and I'll bother responding.
In my opinion homosexuality is a societal cancer, as it spreads through a society it completely destroys that societies ability to propagate, or at least hempers it. Parades are simply a way to spread that cancer by implanting the idea in our youth that it's pefectly normal to be a sexual deviant, or worse it's normal AND extemely fun. If you're queer and I've insulted you, I'm not sorry, get back in your closet. I'll not touch on religous implications against homosexuality since the vocal majority of this board seem to focus on secularism opposed to the divine.
It hempers our ability to propogate? I think bad spelling hampers our ability to propagate. Way to misspell both of your "intelligent" words.
How is the acceptance of homosexuality a cancer to society? Back that opinion up and I'll bother responding.
Oh, and learn how to spell.
^ is a response, lol.
/sarcasm on
thank you grammer police. youre right, his whole post is void and null because he misspelled two words. thank you for opening me eyes.
/sarcasm off
respond to the topic as a topic and not a correction of grammer, and maybe the rest of us might take your points seriously.
I don't mind a chick being gay. Usually they are pretty hot, but for guys, I'd rather NOT know.
Come on now, some people want you to know their "bidness". Haven't you ever watched Queer as Folk, Queer Eye For the Straight Guy, or Straight Plan for the Gay Man?
Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!
I don't mind a chick being gay. Usually they are pretty hot, but for guys, I'd rather NOT know.
Come on now, some people want you to know their "bidness". Haven't you ever watched Queer as Folk, Queer Eye For the Straight Guy, or Straight Plan for the Gay Man?
Please point out where I said I was an expert. The Focus on the Family people are NOT experts and the various people they try to quote have written letters to them asking them to stop misrepresenting the facts. Again, you are completely unable to provide a single link to unbiased and accurate statistical research. At least as a gay person myself I have some basic knowledge of the issue (note that I did not say I am an expert, just so this is clear to you). You have no knowledge at all, and have not read any of the information provided to you. But again, as a courtesy, here are a couple of places you can start... http://www.truthwinsout.org/ http://truthwinsout.org/news/?p=37 http://www.insidehighered.com/layout/set/print/news/2006/12/19/gilligan
LOL this is your evidence by scientists? All it says is 2 people dont agree with Dr. Dobsons exact quoting of information. Mainly because thier own research conflicts with liberal agenda. Whats funny in these articles is that it doesnt say what exactly they disagree with him on. I suppose its much easier to just disagree with him in general rather then refute actual points he made with evidence. I really enjoy the last article where someone else tries to refute a single point that was made. That if Homosexuals was genetic then why when a you have identical twins, why isnt both siblings gay. They try to come out with some stupid theory but thats all it is, a theory.
NONE of those researchers is absolutely refuting the claims I feel are important. Which are that 70% to 90% of all child molesters are homosexual or bisexual.
I could care less if Homosexuals think its natural by thier definition or not. If you want to say that Homosexuals are natural because thier deviant behavior happens. Then by that definition just about any deviant behavior would be natural. Humans are "natural", people jump of buildings to commit suicide, therefore suicide is natural? Doesnt make it right does it? Murder happens in the wild and in human society, therefore it must be natural? So I suppose murder, rape, incest, child molestation, theft. Those are ok now? If nature meant for Homosexuals to be abundant then they would be able to reproduce? There are plenty of species that can reproduce without either sex, so why cant humans?
Maybe you can actually try to explain the below statistics of while Child Molesters are predominantly Homosexuals?
Here is some evidence that you can now read and become enlightened:
Homosexual Alfred Kinsey, the preeminent sexual researcher in the history of sexual research, found in 1948 that 37 percent of all male homosexuals admitted to having sex with children under 17 years old.
A very recent (2000) study published in the Archives of Sexual Behavior found that "The best epidemiological evidence indicates that only 2-4% of men attracted to adults prefer men. In contrast, around 25-40% of men attracted to children prefer boys. Thus, the rate of homosexual attraction is 620 times higher among pedophiles."
Another 2000 study in the Archives of Sexual Behavior found that". . . all but 9 of the 48 homosexual men preferred the youngest two male age categories" for sexual activity;' These age categories were fifteen and twenty years old.
Yet another recent study in the Archives of Sexual Behavior found that "Pedophilia appears to have a greater than chance association with two other statistically infrequent phenomena. The first of these is homosexuality . . . Recent surveys estimate the prevalence of homosexuality, among men attracted to adults, in the neighborhood of 2%. In contrast, the prevalence of homosexuality among pedophiles may be as high as 30-40%."
A 1989 study in the Journal of Sex Research noted that " . . . the proportion of sex offenders against male children among homosexual men is substantially larger than the proportion of sex offenders against female children among heterosexual men . . . the development of pedophilia is more closely linked with homosexuality than with heterosexuality."
A 1988 study of 229 convicted child molesters published in the Archives of Sexual Behavior found that 86% of pedophiles described themselves as homosexual or bisexual.
In a 1984 Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy article, sex researchers found that "The proportional prevalence of [male] offenders against male children in this group of 457 offenders against children was 36 percent."
Homosexual activists Karla Jay and I Allen Young revealed in their 1979 Gay Report that 73% of all homosexuals I have acted as "chicken hawks" - that is, they have preyed on adolescent or younger boys.
In a 1992 study published in the Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy, sex researchers K. Freud and R. I. Watson found that homosexual males are three times more likely than straight men to engage in pedophilia, and that the average pedophile victimizes between 20 and 150 boys before being arrested.
A study by sex researchers Alan Bell and Martin Weinberg found that 25% of white homosexual men have had sex with boys sixteen years and younger.
In my opinion homosexuality is a societal cancer, as it spreads through a society it completely destroys that societies ability to propagate, or at least hempers it. Parades are simply a way to spread that cancer by implanting the idea in our youth that it's pefectly normal to be a sexual deviant, or worse it's normal AND extemely fun. If you're queer and I've insulted you, I'm not sorry, get back in your closet. I'll not touch on religous implications against homosexuality since the vocal majority of this board seem to focus on secularism opposed to the divine.
It hempers our ability to propogate? I think bad spelling hampers our ability to propagate. Way to misspell both of your "intelligent" words.
How is the acceptance of homosexuality a cancer to society? Back that opinion up and I'll bother responding.
Oh, and learn how to spell.
Sorry modjoe, Hampers. What second word did I mispell, I can't seem to find it in my original post. Also please point out what spelling has to do with propagation opposed to the point I was making about Homosexuality's effect on reproduction? Perhaps you've been impregnated by butt sex? Or maybe you failed to seal the deal due to spelling errors? I'm trying to find the connection between your attack and my opinion...
I'll back up my opinion when you reread my post, correctly.
In my opinion homosexuality is a societal cancer, as it spreads through a society it completely destroys that societies ability to propagate, or at least hempers it. Parades are simply a way to spread that cancer by implanting the idea in our youth that it's pefectly normal to be a sexual deviant, or worse it's normal AND extemely fun. If you're queer and I've insulted you, I'm not sorry, get back in your closet. I'll not touch on religous implications against homosexuality since the vocal majority of this board seem to focus on secularism opposed to the divine.
It hempers our ability to propogate? I think bad spelling hampers our ability to propagate. Way to misspell both of your "intelligent" words.
How is the acceptance of homosexuality a cancer to society? Back that opinion up and I'll bother responding.
Oh, and learn how to spell.
Sorry modjoe, Hampers. What second word did I mispell, I can't seem to find it in my original post. Also please point out what spelling has to do with propagation opposed to the point I was making about Homosexuality's effect on reproduction? Perhaps you've been impregnated by butt sex? Or maybe you failed to seal the deal due to spelling errors? I'm trying to find the connection between your attack and my opinion...
I'll back up my opinion when you reread my post, correctly.
Homosexuality (though the term was coined only a hundred years ago) has existed for centuries in some form or another. Vaginas around the world still seem to be dropping plenty of children nowadays compared to then.
You know what's a societal cancer? Hatred. Ignorance. Bigotry. Guess who's a part of that camp?
Ok. But who are you to say what's sexually deviant? Religion is not law. Well, it shouldn't be but it all too often is. And if you were looking to play the evolution card I'll ask the same question I asked earlier, which is why then does the anus of all things have a high concentration of nerve endings (not to mention being considered an erogenous zone) when it has nothing to do with reproduction? Doesn't seem to make much sense if that's the case.
Destroys society's ability to propagate? Then I suggest we all better take our cocks out of our girlfriend's/wife's mouths because oral sex certainly doesn't help propagate. We also need to ditch the condoms and birth control pronto. That hampers reproduction.
Exploration or curiosity in anything should be normal, even if it does seem weird or unusual. But society has done a great job in teaching everyone that it's ok to be curious and explore, so long as you don't do anything that someone else may have a problem with, whether it be your friends, family, or God himself.
That's right Timmy, it's ok to be whoever you want to be. Until someone disagrees with it. Then you're a shit stain on America's Fruit of the Looms.
Here is some evidence that you can now read and become enlightened:
Homosexual Alfred Kinsey, the preeminent sexual researcher in the history of sexual research, found in 1948 that 37 percent of all male homosexuals admitted to having sex with children under 17 years old. A very recent (2000) study published in the Archives of Sexual Behavior found that "The best epidemiological evidence indicates that only 2-4% of men attracted to adults prefer men. In contrast, around 25-40% of men attracted to children prefer boys. Thus, the rate of homosexual attraction is 620 times higher among pedophiles." Another 2000 study in the Archives of Sexual Behavior found that". . . all but 9 of the 48 homosexual men preferred the youngest two male age categories" for sexual activity;' These age categories were fifteen and twenty years old. Yet another recent study in the Archives of Sexual Behavior found that "Pedophilia appears to have a greater than chance association with two other statistically infrequent phenomena. The first of these is homosexuality . . . Recent surveys estimate the prevalence of homosexuality, among men attracted to adults, in the neighborhood of 2%. In contrast, the prevalence of homosexuality among pedophiles may be as high as 30-40%." A 1989 study in the Journal of Sex Research noted that " . . . the proportion of sex offenders against male children among homosexual men is substantially larger than the proportion of sex offenders against female children among heterosexual men . . . the development of pedophilia is more closely linked with homosexuality than with heterosexuality." A 1988 study of 229 convicted child molesters published in the Archives of Sexual Behavior found that 86% of pedophiles described themselves as homosexual or bisexual. In a 1984 Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy article, sex researchers found that "The proportional prevalence of [male] offenders against male children in this group of 457 offenders against children was 36 percent." Homosexual activists Karla Jay and I Allen Young revealed in their 1979 Gay Report that 73% of all homosexuals I have acted as "chicken hawks" - that is, they have preyed on adolescent or younger boys. In a 1992 study published in the Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy, sex researchers K. Freud and R. I. Watson found that homosexual males are three times more likely than straight men to engage in pedophilia, and that the average pedophile victimizes between 20 and 150 boys before being arrested. A study by sex researchers Alan Bell and Martin Weinberg found that 25% of white homosexual men have had sex with boys sixteen years and younger.
Please could you link us to each and everyone of those "studies" because quoting them without showing them is like taking them out of your a..
Here is some evidence that you can now read and become enlightened:
Homosexual Alfred Kinsey, the preeminent sexual researcher in the history of sexual research, found in 1948 that 37 percent of all male homosexuals admitted to having sex with children under 17 years old. A very recent (2000) study published in the Archives of Sexual Behaviorfound that "The best epidemiological evidence indicates that only 2-4% of men attracted to adults prefer men. In contrast, around 25-40% of men attracted to children prefer boys. Thus, the rate of homosexual attraction is 620 times higher among pedophiles." Another 2000 study in the Archives of Sexual Behaviorfound that". . . all but 9 of the 48 homosexual men preferred the youngest two male age categories" for sexual activity;' These age categories were fifteen and twenty years old. Yet another recent study in the Archives of Sexual Behaviorfound that "Pedophilia appears to have a greater than chance association with two other statistically infrequent phenomena. The first of these is homosexuality . . . Recent surveys estimate the prevalence of homosexuality, among men attracted to adults, in the neighborhood of 2%. In contrast, the prevalence of homosexuality among pedophiles may be as high as 30-40%." A 1989 study in the Journal of Sex Researchnoted that " . . . the proportion of sex offenders against male children among homosexual men is substantially larger than the proportion of sex offenders against female children among heterosexual men . . . the development of pedophilia is more closely linked with homosexuality than with heterosexuality." A 1988 study of 229 convicted child molesters published in the Archives of Sexual Behaviorfound that 86% of pedophiles described themselves as homosexual or bisexual. In a 1984 Journal of Sex and Marital Therapyarticle, sex researchers found that "The proportional prevalence of [male] offenders against male children in this group of 457 offenders against children was 36 percent." Homosexual activists Karla Jay and I Allen Young revealed in their 1979 Gay Reportthat 73% of all homosexuals I have acted as "chicken hawks" - that is, they have preyed on adolescent or younger boys. In a 1992 study published in the Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy, sex researchers K. Freud and R. I. Watson found that homosexual males are three times more likely than straight men to engage in pedophilia, and that the average pedophile victimizes between 20 and 150 boys before being arrested. A study by sex researchers Alan Bell and Martin Weinberg found that 25% of white homosexual men have had sex with boys sixteen years and younger.
Please could you link us to each and everyone of those "studies" because quoting them without showing them is like taking them out of your a..naldric, lol, youre killing me, seriously. if hes actually quoting them date and article, its not coming from his ass, lol.
Here is some evidence that you can now read and become enlightened:
Homosexual Alfred Kinsey, the preeminent sexual researcher in the history of sexual research, found in 1948 that 37 percent of all male homosexuals admitted to having sex with children under 17 years old. A very recent (2000) study published in the Archives of Sexual Behaviorfound that "The best epidemiological evidence indicates that only 2-4% of men attracted to adults prefer men. In contrast, around 25-40% of men attracted to children prefer boys. Thus, the rate of homosexual attraction is 620 times higher among pedophiles." Another 2000 study in the Archives of Sexual Behaviorfound that". . . all but 9 of the 48 homosexual men preferred the youngest two male age categories" for sexual activity;' These age categories were fifteen and twenty years old. Yet another recent study in the Archives of Sexual Behaviorfound that "Pedophilia appears to have a greater than chance association with two other statistically infrequent phenomena. The first of these is homosexuality . . . Recent surveys estimate the prevalence of homosexuality, among men attracted to adults, in the neighborhood of 2%. In contrast, the prevalence of homosexuality among pedophiles may be as high as 30-40%." A 1989 study in the Journal of Sex Researchnoted that " . . . the proportion of sex offenders against male children among homosexual men is substantially larger than the proportion of sex offenders against female children among heterosexual men . . . the development of pedophilia is more closely linked with homosexuality than with heterosexuality." A 1988 study of 229 convicted child molesters published in the Archives of Sexual Behaviorfound that 86% of pedophiles described themselves as homosexual or bisexual. In a 1984 Journal of Sex and Marital Therapyarticle, sex researchers found that "The proportional prevalence of [male] offenders against male children in this group of 457 offenders against children was 36 percent." Homosexual activists Karla Jay and I Allen Young revealed in their 1979 Gay Reportthat 73% of all homosexuals I have acted as "chicken hawks" - that is, they have preyed on adolescent or younger boys. In a 1992 study published in the Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy, sex researchers K. Freud and R. I. Watson found that homosexual males are three times more likely than straight men to engage in pedophilia, and that the average pedophile victimizes between 20 and 150 boys before being arrested. A study by sex researchers Alan Bell and Martin Weinberg found that 25% of white homosexual men have had sex with boys sixteen years and younger.
Please could you link us to each and everyone of those "studies" because quoting them without showing them is like taking them out of your a..naldric, lol, youre killing me, seriously. if hes actually quoting them date and article, its not coming from his ass, lol.
If he's going to throw 'statistics' out he needs to do so fairly.
Seven percent of girls in grades five to eight and twelve percent of girls in grades nine through twelve and said they had been sexually abused. [Commonwealth Fund Survey of the Health of Adolescent Girls, 1998.]
Three percent of boys in grades five through eight and five percent of boys in grades nine through twelve said they had been sexually abused. [Commonwealth Fund Survey of the Health of Adolescent Boys, 1998.]
Rapists are more likely to be serial criminals than serial rapists. In one study, 46% of rapists who were released from prison were rearrested within 3 years of their release for another crime -- 18.6% for a violent offense, 14.8% for a property offense, 11.2% for a drug offense and 20.5% for a public-order offense. [2002 RPR94]
You act like homosexuality is the issue and completely ignore the women and girls who are sexually abused and tortured every day. If you want to play the numbers game, then do so fairly instead of being selective so you can get your opinion across as fact.
Please could you link us to each and everyone of those "studies" because quoting them without showing them is like taking them out of your a..
naldric, lol, youre killing me, seriously. if hes actually quoting them date and article, its not coming from his ass, lol.
If he's going to throw 'statistics' out he needs to do so fairly.
Seven percent of girls in grades five to eight and twelve percent of girls in grades nine through twelve and said they had been sexually abused. [Commonwealth Fund Survey of the Health of Adolescent Girls, 1998.]
Three percent of boys in grades five through eight and five percent of boys in grades nine through twelve said they had been sexually abused. [Commonwealth Fund Survey of the Health of Adolescent Boys, 1998.]
Rapists are more likely to be serial criminals than serial rapists. In one study, 46% of rapists who were released from prison were rearrested within 3 years of their release for another crime -- 18.6% for a violent offense, 14.8% for a property offense, 11.2% for a drug offense and 20.5% for a public-order offense. [2002 RPR94]
You act like homosexuality is the issue and completely ignore the women and girls who are sexually abused and tortured every day. If you want to play the numbers game, then do so fairly instead of being selective so you can get your opinion across as fact. Actually, if you want refute the statistics previously posted you would need to find studies that show a large percentage of the heterosexual community engages in sexual assualt/abuse. And you would need studies that show that most pedophiles are heterosexual.
Dont go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. (Mark Twain)
Please could you link us to each and everyone of those "studies" because quoting them without showing them is like taking them out of your a..
naldric, lol, youre killing me, seriously. if hes actually quoting them date and article, its not coming from his ass, lol.
If he's going to throw 'statistics' out he needs to do so fairly.
Seven percent of girls in grades five to eight and twelve percent of girls in grades nine through twelve and said they had been sexually abused. [Commonwealth Fund Survey of the Health of Adolescent Girls, 1998.]
Three percent of boys in grades five through eight and five percent of boys in grades nine through twelve said they had been sexually abused. [Commonwealth Fund Survey of the Health of Adolescent Boys, 1998.]
Rapists are more likely to be serial criminals than serial rapists. In one study, 46% of rapists who were released from prison were rearrested within 3 years of their release for another crime -- 18.6% for a violent offense, 14.8% for a property offense, 11.2% for a drug offense and 20.5% for a public-order offense. [2002 RPR94]
You act like homosexuality is the issue and completely ignore the women and girls who are sexually abused and tortured every day. If you want to play the numbers game, then do so fairly instead of being selective so you can get your opinion across as fact. Actually, if you want refute the statistics previously posted you would need to find studies that show a large percentage of the heterosexual community engages in sexual assualt/abuse. And you would need studies that show that most pedophiles are heterosexual.
According to the last site (rainn.org) I gave out, men only make up 10% of all sexual assualt vicitims. That means unless 90% of sexual assault crimes are committed by females, you're blindly looking away from a huge chunk of actual sexual assault cases. Their sources for that page? The U.S. Department of Justice’s Bureau of Justice Statistics, and the Rape Treatment Center at Santa Monica - UCLA Medical Center. I figure they're on the up and up if we're going to talk numbers.
Nowhere did I say I was trying to refute or disprove them. But I'm displaying statistics that Brainy isn't giving us that don't help his own argument. My point is that to ignore women in all of this to try to prove your view as the correct one is silly.
If he's going to throw 'statistics' out he needs to do so fairly.
Seven percent of girls in grades five to eight and twelve percent of girls in grades nine through twelve and said they had been sexually abused. [Commonwealth Fund Survey of the Health of Adolescent Girls, 1998.]
Three percent of boys in grades five through eight and five percent of boys in grades nine through twelve said they had been sexually abused. [Commonwealth Fund Survey of the Health of Adolescent Boys, 1998.]
Rapists are more likely to be serial criminals than serial rapists. In one study, 46% of rapists who were released from prison were rearrested within 3 years of their release for another crime -- 18.6% for a violent offense, 14.8% for a property offense, 11.2% for a drug offense and 20.5% for a public-order offense. [2002 RPR94]
You act like homosexuality is the issue and completely ignore the women and girls who are sexually abused and tortured every day. If you want to play the numbers game, then do so fairly instead of being selective so you can get your opinion across as fact.
The problem I see with the statistics you are quoting are as follows:
Those statistics are based on Sexual Assualt and not Child Molestation. Sexual Assualt can be verbal, visual (like voyerism), sexual harrassment, innapropriate touching, attempted rape, rape, child molestation etc... Even though child molestation is a subsect of Sexual assault its only a small part.
The site you quoted from admits they are only giving statistics from "reported" crimes. And not actual crimes. They also agree that MALES are much LESS LIKELY to REPORT Sexual Assualts then women. So your source is openly admitting that its numbers are not an accurate accounting of actual "Sexual Assualts".
Also from my understanding of the statistics that I have read is that most child molestation on males occurs when the male child is age 10 to 17 yrs of age.
All of those reasons is why an overwhelming majority CHILD MOLESTERS admit to being homosexual.
Additionally because you are using statistics on Sexual Assaults instead of Child Molestation, then you are not telling us the age of the person commiting the assault. Many of the assualts taking place on females are from males close to thier own age group. Also dont forget about date rape etc...
The other problem your statistics ar showing is that they are not telling us what percent are caused by homosexuals. It seems obvious that "most crimes" whether sexual or not are going to be committed by heterosexuals, due to heterosexuals accounting for 90 to 98% of the population (% depending on the study you read) But like Child Molestation homosexuals are 620 times more likely to commit that crime then heterosexuals. I would like to see what percentage of these "sexual assualts" are committed my homosexuals.
I personally find a huge difference from a Verbal sexual assault or touching a waitresses butt and Child Molestation. Most Americans agree with me, which is why sexual assualt has a much lower average sentence then Child Molestation. Also Child Molesters are much more likely to be repeat offenders. In fact I have seen statistics showing child molester residivism rate being around 99%. Which basically means that child molesters are incurable.
Please could you link us to each and everyone of those "studies" because quoting them without showing them is like taking them out of your a..
I cant give you links to the websites or quoted information because this information is contained in published books, magazines and newspapers. They dont post there book transcripts on the web, because then why would anyone buy the book? This material is copywrited and thats how they make thier money, with people buying thier reports/journals/books/magazines?
The statistics I quoted are posted exactly that way on tons and tons of websites. I will concede that I am linking the material based on the fact I feel they are a credible source and the quotes they are providing are accurately portrayed. However I have yet to see any studies that can refute those statistics in any discernable way.
In fact someone linked a Gay and Lesbian Taskforce Site (pro GAYS) that disagreed with the statistics and said that instead of 80% of child molesters being homosexual, they say only 53% are homosexual. And they say they disagree with Kinsey where his study shows 37% Homosexuals admit having sex with a minor. The Gay report says its only 25% of Homosexuals say they have sex with minors.
Honestly even going with the Liberal Gay and Lesbian Taksforce numbers, I think its still just as bad. They might as well just shoot themselves in the foot with that information, they are just proving my point.
I really dont see your overall point thou. Are you saying that if my statistics are true and that if I quoted you the page numbers etc.. then you would agree with my agruement and change your opinion?
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lol, nothing more, modjoe? im shocked.
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If they wanna be accepted, they must act NORMAL.
We don't have straight pride, there should be no gay pride either.
As long as they do like everybody else they should be fine.
But they doesn't seem smart enough to understand that.
Those who underestimate the power of the human spirit are destined to fail...
They doesn't seem smart enough?
Anyway, as I stated before, when heterosexuals and homosexuals have equal rights in society, I'll agree with what you said.
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It hempers our ability to propogate? I think bad spelling hampers our ability to propagate. Way to misspell both of your "intelligent" words.
How is the acceptance of homosexuality a cancer to society? Back that opinion up and I'll bother responding.
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It hempers our ability to propogate? I think bad spelling hampers our ability to propagate. Way to misspell both of your "intelligent" words.
How is the acceptance of homosexuality a cancer to society? Back that opinion up and I'll bother responding.
Oh, and learn how to spell.
^ is a response, lol.
/sarcasm on
thank you grammer police. youre right, his whole post is void and null because he misspelled two words. thank you for opening me eyes.
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respond to the topic as a topic and not a correction of grammer, and maybe the rest of us might take your points seriously.
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LOL this is your evidence by scientists? All it says is 2 people dont agree with Dr. Dobsons exact quoting of information. Mainly because thier own research conflicts with liberal agenda. Whats funny in these articles is that it doesnt say what exactly they disagree with him on. I suppose its much easier to just disagree with him in general rather then refute actual points he made with evidence. I really enjoy the last article where someone else tries to refute a single point that was made. That if Homosexuals was genetic then why when a you have identical twins, why isnt both siblings gay. They try to come out with some stupid theory but thats all it is, a theory.
NONE of those researchers is absolutely refuting the claims I feel are important. Which are that 70% to 90% of all child molesters are homosexual or bisexual.
I could care less if Homosexuals think its natural by thier definition or not. If you want to say that Homosexuals are natural because thier deviant behavior happens. Then by that definition just about any deviant behavior would be natural. Humans are "natural", people jump of buildings to commit suicide, therefore suicide is natural? Doesnt make it right does it? Murder happens in the wild and in human society, therefore it must be natural? So I suppose murder, rape, incest, child molestation, theft. Those are ok now? If nature meant for Homosexuals to be abundant then they would be able to reproduce? There are plenty of species that can reproduce without either sex, so why cant humans?
Maybe you can actually try to explain the below statistics of while Child Molesters are predominantly Homosexuals?
Here is some evidence that you can now read and become enlightened:
It hempers our ability to propogate? I think bad spelling hampers our ability to propagate. Way to misspell both of your "intelligent" words.
How is the acceptance of homosexuality a cancer to society? Back that opinion up and I'll bother responding.
Oh, and learn how to spell.
Sorry modjoe, Hampers. What second word did I mispell, I can't seem to find it in my original post. Also please point out what spelling has to do with propagation opposed to the point I was making about Homosexuality's effect on reproduction? Perhaps you've been impregnated by butt sex? Or maybe you failed to seal the deal due to spelling errors? I'm trying to find the connection between your attack and my opinion...
I'll back up my opinion when you reread my post, correctly.
It hempers our ability to propogate? I think bad spelling hampers our ability to propagate. Way to misspell both of your "intelligent" words.
How is the acceptance of homosexuality a cancer to society? Back that opinion up and I'll bother responding.
Oh, and learn how to spell.
Sorry modjoe, Hampers. What second word did I mispell, I can't seem to find it in my original post. Also please point out what spelling has to do with propagation opposed to the point I was making about Homosexuality's effect on reproduction? Perhaps you've been impregnated by butt sex? Or maybe you failed to seal the deal due to spelling errors? I'm trying to find the connection between your attack and my opinion...
I'll back up my opinion when you reread my post, correctly.
Homosexuality (though the term was coined only a hundred years ago) has existed for centuries in some form or another. Vaginas around the world still seem to be dropping plenty of children nowadays compared to then.You know what's a societal cancer? Hatred. Ignorance. Bigotry. Guess who's a part of that camp?
Ok. But who are you to say what's sexually deviant? Religion is not law. Well, it shouldn't be but it all too often is. And if you were looking to play the evolution card I'll ask the same question I asked earlier, which is why then does the anus of all things have a high concentration of nerve endings (not to mention being considered an erogenous zone) when it has nothing to do with reproduction? Doesn't seem to make much sense if that's the case.
Destroys society's ability to propagate? Then I suggest we all better take our cocks out of our girlfriend's/wife's mouths because oral sex certainly doesn't help propagate. We also need to ditch the condoms and birth control pronto. That hampers reproduction.
Exploration or curiosity in anything should be normal, even if it does seem weird or unusual. But society has done a great job in teaching everyone that it's ok to be curious and explore, so long as you don't do anything that someone else may have a problem with, whether it be your friends, family, or God himself.
That's right Timmy, it's ok to be whoever you want to be. Until someone disagrees with it. Then you're a shit stain on America's Fruit of the Looms.
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If he's going to throw 'statistics' out he needs to do so fairly.
Seven percent of girls in grades five to eight and twelve percent of girls in grades nine through twelve and said they had been sexually abused. [Commonwealth Fund Survey of the Health of Adolescent Girls, 1998.]
Three percent of boys in grades five through eight and five percent of boys in grades nine through twelve said they had been sexually abused. [Commonwealth Fund Survey of the Health of Adolescent Boys, 1998.]
- ONE IN SIX AMERICAN WOMEN ARE THE VICTIMS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT. [http://www.rainn.org/statistics/index.html]
You act like homosexuality is the issue and completely ignore the women and girls who are sexually abused and tortured every day. If you want to play the numbers game, then do so fairly instead of being selective so you can get your opinion across as fact.If he's going to throw 'statistics' out he needs to do so fairly.
Seven percent of girls in grades five to eight and twelve percent of girls in grades nine through twelve and said they had been sexually abused. [Commonwealth Fund Survey of the Health of Adolescent Girls, 1998.]
Three percent of boys in grades five through eight and five percent of boys in grades nine through twelve said they had been sexually abused. [Commonwealth Fund Survey of the Health of Adolescent Boys, 1998.]
- ONE IN SIX AMERICAN WOMEN ARE THE VICTIMS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT. [http://www.rainn.org/statistics/index.html]
You act like homosexuality is the issue and completely ignore the women and girls who are sexually abused and tortured every day. If you want to play the numbers game, then do so fairly instead of being selective so you can get your opinion across as fact. Actually, if you want refute the statistics previously posted you would need to find studies that show a large percentage of the heterosexual community engages in sexual assualt/abuse. And you would need studies that show that most pedophiles are heterosexual.Dont go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. (Mark Twain)
If he's going to throw 'statistics' out he needs to do so fairly.
Seven percent of girls in grades five to eight and twelve percent of girls in grades nine through twelve and said they had been sexually abused. [Commonwealth Fund Survey of the Health of Adolescent Girls, 1998.]
Three percent of boys in grades five through eight and five percent of boys in grades nine through twelve said they had been sexually abused. [Commonwealth Fund Survey of the Health of Adolescent Boys, 1998.]
- ONE IN SIX AMERICAN WOMEN ARE THE VICTIMS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT. [http://www.rainn.org/statistics/index.html]
You act like homosexuality is the issue and completely ignore the women and girls who are sexually abused and tortured every day. If you want to play the numbers game, then do so fairly instead of being selective so you can get your opinion across as fact. Actually, if you want refute the statistics previously posted you would need to find studies that show a large percentage of the heterosexual community engages in sexual assualt/abuse. And you would need studies that show that most pedophiles are heterosexual.According to the last site (rainn.org) I gave out, men only make up 10% of all sexual assualt vicitims. That means unless 90% of sexual assault crimes are committed by females, you're blindly looking away from a huge chunk of actual sexual assault cases. Their sources for that page? The U.S. Department of Justice’s Bureau of Justice Statistics, and the Rape Treatment Center at Santa Monica - UCLA Medical Center. I figure they're on the up and up if we're going to talk numbers.
Nowhere did I say I was trying to refute or disprove them. But I'm displaying statistics that Brainy isn't giving us that don't help his own argument. My point is that to ignore women in all of this to try to prove your view as the correct one is silly.
The problem I see with the statistics you are quoting are as follows:
Those statistics are based on Sexual Assualt and not Child Molestation. Sexual Assualt can be verbal, visual (like voyerism), sexual harrassment, innapropriate touching, attempted rape, rape, child molestation etc... Even though child molestation is a subsect of Sexual assault its only a small part.
I personally find a huge difference from a Verbal sexual assault or touching a waitresses butt and Child Molestation. Most Americans agree with me, which is why sexual assualt has a much lower average sentence then Child Molestation. Also Child Molesters are much more likely to be repeat offenders. In fact I have seen statistics showing child molester residivism rate being around 99%. Which basically means that child molesters are incurable.
I cant give you links to the websites or quoted information because this information is contained in published books, magazines and newspapers. They dont post there book transcripts on the web, because then why would anyone buy the book? This material is copywrited and thats how they make thier money, with people buying thier reports/journals/books/magazines?
The statistics I quoted are posted exactly that way on tons and tons of websites. I will concede that I am linking the material based on the fact I feel they are a credible source and the quotes they are providing are accurately portrayed. However I have yet to see any studies that can refute those statistics in any discernable way.
In fact someone linked a Gay and Lesbian Taskforce Site (pro GAYS) that disagreed with the statistics and said that instead of 80% of child molesters being homosexual, they say only 53% are homosexual. And they say they disagree with Kinsey where his study shows 37% Homosexuals admit having sex with a minor. The Gay report says its only 25% of Homosexuals say they have sex with minors.
Honestly even going with the Liberal Gay and Lesbian Taksforce numbers, I think its still just as bad. They might as well just shoot themselves in the foot with that information, they are just proving my point.
I really dont see your overall point thou. Are you saying that if my statistics are true and that if I quoted you the page numbers etc.. then you would agree with my agruement and change your opinion?