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Vanguard Beta: This is just stupid

KremlikKremlik Member UncommonPosts: 716
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Right being a Fileplanet member I'm lucky enough to get access to Vanguard but 'small' problem with the game just on the installation...

..small matter of it requiring 17GB of diskspace, I kid you not, it's bad enough having to download the 6gb zip and unzipping it just for the installation, so it total you require 23GB just to install the damn thing I hate to see what this will patch up to...

What have these guys put in the game? it boggles the mind as this is the biggest installation file EVER just for one item..

Anyone who gets access to the game good luck to you, I think it's their tactic to make sure this is the only game you play as it's the only damn thing you can install

Bring on the WARRRRGGHH!

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  • xIMPxxIMPx Member Posts: 191
    Sure that's a heftly size for a game, but how small is your HD to complain about it?
  • KremlikKremlik Member UncommonPosts: 716
    Two 40 gbs HDs so 80GB to total but thats kinda 'average'for a 'normal' pc user, it does kinda cut down their playerbase to 'must have top of the range gear to play'.. It's just the shear size of it is shocking, this better be a damn huge game with content you actally use (unlike certain games where it 'has' lots of content but you barly 'use' much of it WoW, FFXI, EQ2 to name a 'few').

    Bring on the WARRRRGGHH!

  • shaeshae Member Posts: 2,509

    Ugh, I must have missed the earlier post where you explained how someone was holding you hostage at home with a gun to your head, forcing you to download Vanguard Beta.

    Seriously, do you need us to call the police or something. Give us a sign... anything.

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  • KremlikKremlik Member UncommonPosts: 716
    Originally posted by shae


    Ugh, I must have missed the earlier post where you explained how someone was holding you hostage at home with a gun to your head, forcing you to download Vanguard Beta.
    Seriously, do you need us to call the police or something. Give us a sign... anything.

    I  was drunk at the time I started D/ling

    Anyway I'm paying FP for access to this kind of stuff, it's free so theres no harm in at least looking at it then disiding it's cack at least then I can't be accused of judging a game without playing it , just gotta watch what 'hidden extras' I'll be getting

    Bring on the WARRRRGGHH!

  • thelawoflogicthelawoflogic Member UncommonPosts: 788

    lol

    Originally posted by shae


    Ugh, I must have missed the earlier post where you explained how someone was holding you hostage at home with a gun to your head, forcing you to download Vanguard Beta.
    Seriously, do you need us to call the police or something. Give us a sign... anything.
  • Lord_ZLord_Z Member UncommonPosts: 157
    Ouch 17gb? I downloaded the client over night the other night off FP but didnt install it, *goes off to delete stuff on HD* i may have a 200gb hd  but it fills up very quickly, with me being a download wh0re. :|
  • SuplyndmndSuplyndmnd Member Posts: 553
    Originally posted by shae


    Ugh, I must have missed the earlier post where you explained how someone was holding you hostage at home with a gun to your head, forcing you to download Vanguard Beta.
    Seriously, do you need us to call the police or something. Give us a sign... anything.
    I don't think he was saying anyone had a gun to his head but he's got a point.  That is a lot of space.  Much more space than i'd allot for a game and I have 580 gigs of space.

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  • goatergoater Member Posts: 7
    i cant believe people are pissing and moaning about the hard drive space a game is taking up... i mean i just cant follow that train of thought. this is 2007, games are HUGE... textures, etc etc...



    and people are saying theyre NOT gonna play because they arent gonna give up that hard drive space? get the fuck over it
  • ArtaiosArtaios Member UncommonPosts: 550

    Ive heard EQ2 with all Expansions needs the same, or little bit more?

    300gb diskspace is today minimum.

  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    I'm not complaining at the size, I have more then enough free space, but I have to say I was shocked at the size of the game! Even my largest MMORPG only had max 4~5 GB, and Vanguard has more then 3x that amount! just wow...
  • tubelighttubelight Member UncommonPosts: 276
    i dont think any other game was that big on launch. Someone mentioned EQ2, but how much time did it take EQ2 to get to that size? Sure, most of us have more than a couple 100GB storage space(download wh0res ftw) but even then for a MMORPG to be 20GB on closed beta launch is insane....

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  • TaramTaram Member CommonPosts: 1,700
    Graphics and sound files take up a lot of space.

    There are lots of graphics and sound files in the Vanguard client.



    PS: You're not supposed to talk too much about what's in the client... read that NDA before posting about it.

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  • SLizer6893SLizer6893 Member Posts: 194
    I just played the Vanguard Beta a few weeks ago, let me say one thing, the size of this file will be explained the minute you go in. This game is amazingly well created in the aspect of the enviroment, characters, weapons, special effects. The problem is i think they made this game just like they made EQ2, Hey here is a new game GO BUY THIS VIDEO CARD it will make the game run better. GO BUY THIS HD. If you look at the SoE site they have advertisements for Vid Cards and Comps that are meant for Vanguard. SoE does this because alot of their supporters are computer creator companies. If they made a game low spec they would lose becuase from playing Vanguard so far. Its not like its bad, but its EQ with better graphics and more classes. There is no pvp. It basically reminded me of GW graphics onto EQ. But trust me this game will go somewhere. When eq2 started IT SUCKED, IT WAS SO BAD. 2 months in a huge patch. Baam that game got railed up the list and alot of players liked it. So everyone should try this game atleast once, because it does have alot to offer but not in the beta lol.   



    As for the game size. WoW went from an orginial 2G game to i think 15gs?



    More files, More to do, More Fun?

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  • ValorusValorus Member Posts: 235
    Originally posted by shae


    Ugh, I must have missed the earlier post where you explained how someone was holding you hostage at home with a gun to your head, forcing you to download Vanguard Beta.
    Seriously, do you need us to call the police or something. Give us a sign... anything.

    Simmer down Shae...

    some of you people are simple too amazing to believe.

  • KremlikKremlik Member UncommonPosts: 716
    Well finally found room to install the damn thing.. I'm just fearing the patch days, no sorry patch weeks, with this game size...

    Bring on the WARRRRGGHH!

  • cyanhidecyanhide Member Posts: 141
    well i don't think its a matter of how many gig's u have on ur HD but here in belgium we get stuck with 10 GB a MONTH we may download after that we get smallband so if this is gonna be the new thing to stuff in 12 gig for a game then i'l have to download my games in an other county lol
  • Rayx0rRayx0r Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,902

    *clears his throat and begins to speak in an elderly ..scratchy voice*

    ..why.. In my time each year a new ground breaking game came out we would have to upgrade our hardware. 

    soon, games became bigger and hard drives came out.  Yay for hard drives and no more swapping floppy drves!  You needed to upgrade hard drives what seemed at the release of every major game.  When that wasnt enough, games started coming out on CD and most games where larger than the actual hard drive itself.  I remember how pissed my mom would get every time I would buy a new game and it wouldnt load on to the hard drive.

    so be glad you dont live back when the Home PC was being pioneered and upgrading hardware was very common.  It wasnt too long ago when upgrading video boards alone was standard practice just to be able to play or load the game.  Now we just do it for the most part, for better FPS

    this cost $2500 bux when I was 16

    8MHz proc

    256 KB RAM

    one 5 1/4" floppy drives

    NO hard drive

    4 color CGA graphics

     

    so hey..screw you and you 23 gig beta :P

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  • LazzaroLazzaro Member UncommonPosts: 548

    Programs now a days take a lot of space. I thought a 200gig would be good, but man I've used 49% of it.

    My next build is going to be at least 500Gig

  • lomillerlomiller Member Posts: 1,810
    Given the overall system requirement for running Vanguard if you are worried about 17 GB of disk space you are probably not going to be able to run it very well anyway.  
  • LordLOCLordLOC Member Posts: 124

    Yeah, EQ2 at launch was at most maybe 5GB installed if I remember correctly. Now of course it's up past 7.5 or so, closing in on the big 8GB. Next expansion maybe :)

    I'm waiting to get my key before installing the beta client. But I am looking forward to trying it out and hopefully helping find some buggies.

  • lomillerlomiller Member Posts: 1,810

    Originally posted by Kremlik
    Well finally found room to install the damn thing.. I'm just fearing the patch days, no sorry patch weeks, with this game size...

    They are using SOE’s patching system. EQ2 is almost as big and patches usually take less then an hour. Very large changes like a major expansion use a background/preloader that pulls most of the files down before the main patch so provided the servers come up properly the game is up and running by the time you get home from work. First install patches are big, but that's about it.

  • AelfinnAelfinn Member Posts: 3,857
    Originally posted by Kremlik

    Originally posted by shae


    Ugh, I must have missed the earlier post where you explained how someone was holding you hostage at home with a gun to your head, forcing you to download Vanguard Beta.
    Seriously, do you need us to call the police or something. Give us a sign... anything.

    I  was drunk at the time I started D/ling

    Anyway I'm paying FP for access to this kind of stuff, it's free so theres no harm in at least looking at it then disiding it's cack at least then I can't be accused of judging a game without playing it , just gotta watch what 'hidden extras' I'll be getting


    Posting under the influence ought to be an arrestable crime...

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  • shaeshae Member Posts: 2,509
    Originally posted by Kremlik

    Originally posted by shae


    Ugh, I must have missed the earlier post where you explained how someone was holding you hostage at home with a gun to your head, forcing you to download Vanguard Beta.
    Seriously, do you need us to call the police or something. Give us a sign... anything.

    I  was drunk at the time I started D/ling

    Anyway I'm paying FP for access to this kind of stuff, it's free so theres no harm in at least looking at it then disiding it's cack at least then I can't be accused of judging a game without playing it , just gotta watch what 'hidden extras' I'll be getting



    lol... sorry, I thought it was pretty obvious that I was just teasing you with this post ;).

    It's alot of space but lots of betas have been this way, EQ2 was on order of 8gigs during beta, MxO was around 10. Another game I am testing myself right now was a huge download, around 20 at the start and there has been an extra 8gigs since then :).

    Oh and watch that drinking... we don't want any DUI's here. (discussions under the influence)

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  • lomillerlomiller Member Posts: 1,810

    Originally posted by shae

    It's alot of space but lots of betas have been this way, EQ2 was on order of 8gigs during beta, MxO was around 10. Another game I am testing myself right now was a huge download, around 20 at the start and there has been an extra 8gigs since then :).

    Good point. During beta there is usually all kinds of debug code that bloats the size of the application. Removing this and fine tuning the final compile can save a lot of space.

  • PlassonPlasson Member Posts: 79

    Thats certainly on the larger side.

    Though im a bit surprised at how little HD space people have. Personally I have 800 or so gig. Helps buying a new hd each time you put together a new rig :P

    My EQ2 folder is 7,7G btw, everything included.

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