WoW will be down to 2.5 million subs while Vanguard is at 4million
A little bit head over heels I think, I reckon Vanguard will probably gain around 50-150k subscribers with the possibility of gaining more over the years maybe up to as many as EQ2.
WoW will be down to 2.5 million subs while Vanguard is at 4million
A little bit head over heels I think, I reckon Vanguard will probably gain around 50-150k subscribers with the possibility of gaining more over the years maybe up to as many as EQ2.
I agree i just see more people being turned off by the graphics and animations and as its being released too early it'll ruin it some more :P I reckon about 100-200k will play max.
Originally posted by nomadian WoW will be down to 2.5 million subs while Vanguard is at 4million
A little bit head over heels I think, I reckon Vanguard will probably gain around 50-150k subscribers with the possibility of gaining more over the years maybe up to as many as EQ2.
Originally posted by End_of_a_era Originally posted by nomadian WoW will be down to 2.5 million subs while Vanguard is at 4million
A little bit head over heels I think, I reckon Vanguard will probably gain around 50-150k subscribers with the possibility of gaining more over the years maybe up to as many as EQ2.
I agree i just see more people being turned off by the graphics and animations and as its being released too early it'll ruin it some more :P I reckon about 100-200k will play max.
Well the graphics are amazing so i don't know what you're talking about there.
The animations are still being worked on.. it's called beta.
WoW will be down to 2.5 million subs while Vanguard is at 4million
A little bit head over heels I think, I reckon Vanguard will probably gain around 50-150k subscribers with the possibility of gaining more over the years maybe up to as many as EQ2.
I stand by my prediction.
Even if the launch goes smoothly I doubt it will surpass WoW; Sigil does not have the same financial or marketting muscle. Additionally Burning Crusade is taking suspiciously long for to release. I would not be surprised to see it go gold as soon as the next big MMO titles do as a way of taking the wind out the sails of the competition. The game may well become a success in its own right but a WoW killer? A longshot IMO.
WoW will be down to 2.5 million subs while Vanguard is at 4million
A little bit head over heels I think, I reckon Vanguard will probably gain around 50-150k subscribers with the possibility of gaining more over the years maybe up to as many as EQ2.
I stand by my prediction.
Even if the launch goes smoothly I doubt it will surpass WoW; Sigil does not have the same financial or marketting muscle. Additionally Burning Crusade is taking suspiciously long for to release. I would not be surprised to see it go gold as soon as the next big MMO titles do as a way of taking the wind out the sails of the competition. The game may well become a success in its own right but a WoW killer? A longshot IMO.
SOE is the publisher and therefore the marketer for Vanguard. SOE has more muscle than anyone in the gaming industry. Burning Crusade is going live on the 16th according to the e-mail i just received. Vanguard is 3x the game WoW is both in size and depth. WoW has little chance of remaining king. WoW is no competition for Vanguard. Vanguard is on a whole new level where it stands alone.
It's funny that people want a smooth launch. There has never been a smooth MMO launch. Even WoW was horrid. 5 hour wait to long in anyone?
That said: It's not going to be one I subscribe to since I'm not into class/level based games.
DAOC?
DAOC, while yes it's one of the TWO Class/Level games that I stayed in for more than 2 months, is one that I still wound up leaving as soon as a modern skill based game came out (SWG & EVE). EQ I stayed with only until DAOC came out (though I did maintain my subscription so I could hop on with friends etc). DAOC offered a lot of flexibility WITHIN your class to customize your character so while it wasn't skill based it had enough 'character choice' that it was 'ok' for a while.
Once SWG and EVE hit the horizon I left both titles and never looked back (though, again, while I played SWG I had an EQ account to play with my brother and some old friends on friday nights). But Skill based games have always been my true love in MMORPG's. UO I have held an account for the past 10 years, and in beta. SWG I played until shortly after CU but left just before the NGE and when NGE hit cancelled my AAP.... and EVE I have played since the NGE hit. Didn't care for Ryzom though... that one is too level based even though the skill system isn't bad.
Currently Playing: Dungeons and Dragons Online. Sig image Pending Still in: A couple Betas
WoW will be down to 2.5 million subs while Vanguard is at 4million
A little bit head over heels I think, I reckon Vanguard will probably gain around 50-150k subscribers with the possibility of gaining more over the years maybe up to as many as EQ2.
I stand by my prediction.
Heya Copeland...
While I do agree that Vanguard will probably do fine I dn't see it toppling WoW.... while I agree it's good and I think that, of the class/level games out there CURRENTLY it's got better features. I don't think those features are going to drag significant numbers of players away from their current games.
I suspect it'll hit a few hundred thousand players. But I'm not expecting it to topple WoW by any means. I suspect it will hover in the >100k but <500k range.
I also think Sigil made a mistake in not doing voice-overs like EQ2 did. For all it's faults I have to say that the voice-overs in EQ2 REALLY make the game world come alive.
Currently Playing: Dungeons and Dragons Online. Sig image Pending Still in: A couple Betas
Even if the launch goes smoothly I doubt it will surpass WoW; Sigil does not have the same financial or marketting muscle. Additionally Burning Crusade is taking suspiciously long for to release. I would not be surprised to see it go gold as soon as the next big MMO titles do as a way of taking the wind out the sails of the competition. The game may well become a success in its own right but a WoW killer? A longshot IMO.
SOE is the publisher and therefore the marketer for Vanguard. SOE has more muscle than anyone in the gaming industry. Burning Crusade is going live on the 16th according to the e-mail i just received. Vanguard is 3x the game WoW is both in size and depth. WoW has little chance of remaining king. WoW is no competition for Vanguard. Vanguard is on a whole new level where it stands alone.
Missed my point. Blizzard has a long history of making great games, Sigil has none. WoW brought new players to the MMO market through brand recognition and loyalty alone. Not to mention that as a MMO publisher, Sony has actually received some black eyes (ie SWG NGE debacle).
You're thinking too logically. Remember the Beta vs. VHS war? The 'superior' product lost. Being 3X the game WoW is no ace in hole.
It's funny that people want a smooth launch. There has never been a smooth MMO launch. Even WoW was horrid. 5 hour wait to long in anyone?
Why is it funny? There have been launches with varying degrees of functionality. From disastrously incomplete to highly operational. History has shown that games that have had poor launches suffer from it in the long run. WoW's launch is irrelevant in this discussion ( though I will say that I did not have to wait at all to get in on day one). WoW IS a success, that is a fact whereas we can only speculate with Vanguard.
Ive checked out a lot of screenshots and while the graphics are high resolution with high res textures and great lighting effects they do look style and seem flat. Kinda reminds me of eq2 which isnt a big suprise but i wasnt a fan of eq2 either.
If you like vanguards graphics fine but they just seem so boring flat and lacking style imho.
Do me a favor, send an email to VGComplaints@sigilgames.com (I think thats the email address) and explain what happened and ask why you got banned for reporting a jackass.
I was a Guide / Crimson Fellowship in Vanguard before I got sick of it. That petition should not have gotten you banned unless there was some huge policy changes for the worse.
I'm pretty sure they will work out a lot of the gfx options once game goes live. But I still think the game isn't my cup of tea. Just not ready to go back to the way EQ did corpse runs. To me that is just old style play. We have come a long way from those days.
I too, have been a beta testers of Vanguard: Saga of heroes. And those that claimed that Vanguard is an Everquest clone were right all along. Vanguard offers nothing new to the table. Its Everquest all over again.
Gameloading, aren't you an Archlord fan? I saw another guy giving Vanguard a negative review said he would go back to Rappelz and another guy saying it was the worst beta he'd ever been in had a Final Fantasy picture in his sig.
There is nothing wrong with those games. They certainly have an audience. (although two of them are free). I don't see this game having a whole lot in common with any of those games and for people that do like that style of game it doesn't come as a surprise that they wouldn't like Vanguard.
I tend to take player reviews with a mountain of salt. EQ2 was pretty much blasted when it came out as horrible yet I liked it and right now I'd say its one of the best if not the best MMO's on the market. Its latest expansion is simply amazing. When SWG came out there were 9 horrible reviews for every good one. But when the game was changed with the CU and the NGE you would have thought the original game was the greatest game ever made.
When I hear phrases like "worst ever" or "absolutely horrible" from a reviewer I tend to glaze over the rest of what they have to say. If the game isn't as bad as D&L then its not the worst ever. And if the graphics are better than Roma Victor than you better believe animations are not "absolutely horrible".
I've seen enough good reviews of this game to give the beta a try myself.
I played for a little while until I was kicked out of the beta.
The graphics are great , but that is about it , same old crap with 0 innovation of any kind.
I watched the dev's in interviews go on on about how the game is a miles stone in mmo's but the fact is , it falls short of anything innovative.
I hope Age of conan delivers or i'm going to be playing rappelz for ever lol .
Caravan system, fellowship system, player driven boats, flying mounts, huge world with no instancing, self bindable items, diplomacy sphere, craftable houses and ships...there are tons of innovations and I could keep going but it doesn't matter. You obviously don't care.
/shrug
Why did you get kicked out of beta?
UO - Craftable housing check
Swg - Craftable housing... check
Horizons - Craftable housing... check
Dark n Light - Flying mounts... check
Dark n Light - Huge world with no instancing... check
eq2 self binable items... check
SWG - Player made ships and transports and mounts... check
Innovations? Not hardly unless you are just waking up out of your wow coma.
Please note any reference to SWG is before Smedley treated it like a girly boy in prison. While most of those things exist in other games, neither game has ALL of them. That IS the innovation. The biggest innovation is diplomacy. While its being very rudimental at lower levels, it has a HUGE potential (if done right) at high end levels. Imagine you have a group, you do a raid, suddenly you find a neutral NPC who might join you if you manage to persuade him... or give u a shortcut to your destination, or gives u a new quest, or whatever... This way diplomacy stops being a minigame and becomes a different aspect of the main game. Diplomats would be sought after to get to secret zones, get that extra loot perhaps, find bonus missions or persuade otherwise hostile NPCs to trade/talk with you.
I am also in beta, and I find the whole concept very exciting. Im not playing VSOH a lot (couple of hours a month) so im still brushing just the lowest levels of the game. From what ive seen so far, there are lots of great concepts in this game. Whether Sigil manages to implement them all, thats a different question. I hope they do. This game needs lots and lots of improvements.
Right now the biggest problems im having in this game is the combat - it is not dynamic and fluid enough like it is in WoW. It sort of drags around, very EQ1 style. It needs to go faster and smoother.
The world is beautifull... graphics are amazing, except the character models, they are artisticaly moderate - not great but not bad either. Landscape is ... breathtaking. I made a tons of screenshots at max settings ( thank god for 7850GX2 )
About framerates, yup they are bad, but this game is in BETA... please stop complaining about framerates since the game is still being made. Anything and everything may change by the release date. FPS is better then it was but still fairly bad. I hope they do optimize this game to be playable with better FPS. They did/do a lot of updates so Im very optimistic atm. Keep up the good work, Brad!
Anyone that thinks Vanguard will ever break 250K subs is crazy, or high, probably both.
Though I don't believe number of subcribers determines the quality of a game, but Vanguard is seriously a niche game, if you think otherwise you haven't read the developers "vision".
While I do agree that Vanguard will probably do fine I dn't see it toppling WoW.... while I agree it's good and I think that, of the class/level games out there CURRENTLY it's got better features. I don't think those features are going to drag significant numbers of players away from their current games.
I suspect it'll hit a few hundred thousand players. But I'm not expecting it to topple WoW by any means. I suspect it will hover in the >100k but <500k range.
I also think Sigil made a mistake in not doing voice-overs like EQ2 did. For all it's faults I have to say that the voice-overs in EQ2 REALLY make the game world come alive.
I completely agree with Elnator on this one.
No way, no how, will Vanguard come close to even touching WoW in popularity or sales. Quote me on it now, remember it and look at it in six months. NEVER.
The sloppy performance of this dog game alone will stop it from mass sales. When you need a computer that only 10% (at most) of computer gamers own in the first place to run a computer and make it look pretty, or better yet when you have to go through an hour of tweaking to make it play right.... Yeah no way!
Add on top of that it's a damn bore for the none typical MMORPG crowd and this is going no where fast.
Yes I'm sure the game will do well, it will peak and then settle back to around 250k - 350k subs (maybe 500k max) but thats it. Which is still very successfull.
I played for a little while until I was kicked out of the beta.
The graphics are great , but that is about it , same old crap with 0 innovation of any kind.
I watched the dev's in interviews go on on about how the game is a miles stone in mmo's but the fact is , it falls short of anything innovative.
I hope Age of conan delivers or i'm going to be playing rappelz for ever lol .
Caravan system, fellowship system, player driven boats, flying mounts, huge world with no instancing, self bindable items, diplomacy sphere, craftable houses and ships...there are tons of innovations and I could keep going but it doesn't matter. You obviously don't care.
/shrug
Why did you get kicked out of beta?
UO - Craftable housing check
Swg - Craftable housing... check
Horizons - Craftable housing... check
Dark n Light - Flying mounts... check
Dark n Light - Huge world with no instancing... check
eq2 self binable items... check
SWG - Player made ships and transports and mounts... check
Innovations? Not hardly unless you are just waking up out of your wow coma.
Please note any reference to SWG is before Smedley treated it like a girly boy in prison.
I would think the "innovation" is that they've put all these great features into ONE game. In a way you sort of helped proved his point IMO.
While I do agree that Vanguard will probably do fine I dn't see it toppling WoW.... while I agree it's good and I think that, of the class/level games out there CURRENTLY it's got better features. I don't think those features are going to drag significant numbers of players away from their current games.
I suspect it'll hit a few hundred thousand players. But I'm not expecting it to topple WoW by any means. I suspect it will hover in the >100k but <500k range.
I also think Sigil made a mistake in not doing voice-overs like EQ2 did. For all it's faults I have to say that the voice-overs in EQ2 REALLY make the game world come alive.
I completely agree with Elnator on this one.
No way, no how, will Vanguard come close to even touching WoW in popularity or sales. Quote me on it now, remember it and look at it in six months. NEVER.
The sloppy performance of this dog game alone will stop it from mass sales. When you need a computer that only 10% (at most) of computer gamers own in the first place to run a computer and make it look pretty, or better yet when you have to go through an hour of tweaking to make it play right.... Yeah no way!
Add on top of that it's a damn bore for the none typical MMORPG crowd and this is going no where fast.
Yes I'm sure the game will do well, it will peak and then settle back to around 250k - 350k subs (maybe 500k max) but thats it. Which is still very successfull.
But beat WoW? Hah! Not this one, sorry.
Dog game? Jeez, this is based on how many hours of play? If Vanguard bored you, I suspect you might not have a pulse. I thought you were better than this Shae...
Also, I have a 3 year old rig with a 1.93 ghz processor. It took about 5 minutes to follow the game tweaks other than defragging, which is recomended by MS after you install anything, and I can play it on highest quality. 5 MINUTES. Hour of tweaking maybe if you're mentally challenged.
And let me tell you lady, it is not pretty, it is the most beautiful game in existance and screenshots/videos will not show you this. Take a walk through Leth Nurae if you ever get the chance. The artists outdid themselves. Most beautiful city in a video game ever, period.
You obviously have some axe to grind as I have never heard you be this way. You don't have to diss Vanguard to protect whatever game you are playing or waiting for. Competition is healthy.
Imho, The graphics were okay. The art was pretty well done, and the world looks nice. Not a lot of complaints about the graphics from me, although, imo, Vanguards Graphics don't live up to Ncsoft's Aion or Webzen's Huxley. The Animations in Vanguard are done very poorly imho. I can't believe they actually found the animations to be anywhere near acceptable.
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DAOC?
A little bit head over heels I think, I reckon Vanguard will probably gain around 50-150k subscribers with the possibility of gaining more over the years maybe up to as many as EQ2.
A little bit head over heels I think, I reckon Vanguard will probably gain around 50-150k subscribers with the possibility of gaining more over the years maybe up to as many as EQ2.
I agree i just see more people being turned off by the graphics and animations and as its being released too early it'll ruin it some more :P I reckon about 100-200k will play max.
A little bit head over heels I think, I reckon Vanguard will probably gain around 50-150k subscribers with the possibility of gaining more over the years maybe up to as many as EQ2.
I stand by my prediction.
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A little bit head over heels I think, I reckon Vanguard will probably gain around 50-150k subscribers with the possibility of gaining more over the years maybe up to as many as EQ2.
I agree i just see more people being turned off by the graphics and animations and as its being released too early it'll ruin it some more :P I reckon about 100-200k will play max.
Well the graphics are amazing so i don't know what you're talking about there.
The animations are still being worked on.. it's called beta.
Make a difference!
A little bit head over heels I think, I reckon Vanguard will probably gain around 50-150k subscribers with the possibility of gaining more over the years maybe up to as many as EQ2.
I stand by my prediction.
Even if the launch goes smoothly I doubt it will surpass WoW; Sigil does not have the same financial or marketting muscle. Additionally Burning Crusade is taking suspiciously long for to release. I would not be surprised to see it go gold as soon as the next big MMO titles do as a way of taking the wind out the sails of the competition. The game may well become a success in its own right but a WoW killer? A longshot IMO.SOE is the publisher and therefore the marketer for Vanguard. SOE has more muscle than anyone in the gaming industry. Burning Crusade is going live on the 16th according to the e-mail i just received. Vanguard is 3x the game WoW is both in size and depth. WoW has little chance of remaining king. WoW is no competition for Vanguard. Vanguard is on a whole new level where it stands alone.
It's funny that people want a smooth launch. There has never been a smooth MMO launch. Even WoW was horrid. 5 hour wait to long in anyone?
Make a difference!
DAOC?
DAOC, while yes it's one of the TWO Class/Level games that I stayed in for more than 2 months, is one that I still wound up leaving as soon as a modern skill based game came out (SWG & EVE). EQ I stayed with only until DAOC came out (though I did maintain my subscription so I could hop on with friends etc). DAOC offered a lot of flexibility WITHIN your class to customize your character so while it wasn't skill based it had enough 'character choice' that it was 'ok' for a while.
Once SWG and EVE hit the horizon I left both titles and never looked back (though, again, while I played SWG I had an EQ account to play with my brother and some old friends on friday nights). But Skill based games have always been my true love in MMORPG's. UO I have held an account for the past 10 years, and in beta. SWG I played until shortly after CU but left just before the NGE and when NGE hit cancelled my AAP.... and EVE I have played since the NGE hit. Didn't care for Ryzom though... that one is too level based even though the skill system isn't bad.
Currently Playing: Dungeons and Dragons Online.
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A little bit head over heels I think, I reckon Vanguard will probably gain around 50-150k subscribers with the possibility of gaining more over the years maybe up to as many as EQ2.
I stand by my prediction.
Heya Copeland...
While I do agree that Vanguard will probably do fine I dn't see it toppling WoW.... while I agree it's good and I think that, of the class/level games out there CURRENTLY it's got better features. I don't think those features are going to drag significant numbers of players away from their current games.
I suspect it'll hit a few hundred thousand players. But I'm not expecting it to topple WoW by any means. I suspect it will hover in the >100k but <500k range.
I also think Sigil made a mistake in not doing voice-overs like EQ2 did. For all it's faults I have to say that the voice-overs in EQ2 REALLY make the game world come alive.
Currently Playing: Dungeons and Dragons Online.
Sig image Pending
Still in: A couple Betas
SOE is the publisher and therefore the marketer for Vanguard. SOE has more muscle than anyone in the gaming industry. Burning Crusade is going live on the 16th according to the e-mail i just received. Vanguard is 3x the game WoW is both in size and depth. WoW has little chance of remaining king. WoW is no competition for Vanguard. Vanguard is on a whole new level where it stands alone.
Missed my point. Blizzard has a long history of making great games, Sigil has none. WoW brought new players to the MMO market through brand recognition and loyalty alone. Not to mention that as a MMO publisher, Sony has actually received some black eyes (ie SWG NGE debacle).
You're thinking too logically. Remember the Beta vs. VHS war? The 'superior' product lost. Being 3X the game WoW is no ace in hole.
It's funny that people want a smooth launch. There has never been a smooth MMO launch. Even WoW was horrid. 5 hour wait to long in anyone?
Why is it funny? There have been launches with varying degrees of functionality. From disastrously incomplete to highly operational. History has shown that games that have had poor launches suffer from it in the long run. WoW's launch is irrelevant in this discussion ( though I will say that I did not have to wait at all to get in on day one). WoW IS a success, that is a fact whereas we can only speculate with Vanguard.
If you like vanguards graphics fine but they just seem so boring flat and lacking style imho.
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I was a Guide / Crimson Fellowship in Vanguard before I got sick of it. That petition should not have gotten you banned unless there was some huge policy changes for the worse.
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There is nothing wrong with those games. They certainly have an audience. (although two of them are free). I don't see this game having a whole lot in common with any of those games and for people that do like that style of game it doesn't come as a surprise that they wouldn't like Vanguard.
I tend to take player reviews with a mountain of salt. EQ2 was pretty much blasted when it came out as horrible yet I liked it and right now I'd say its one of the best if not the best MMO's on the market. Its latest expansion is simply amazing. When SWG came out there were 9 horrible reviews for every good one. But when the game was changed with the CU and the NGE you would have thought the original game was the greatest game ever made.
When I hear phrases like "worst ever" or "absolutely horrible" from a reviewer I tend to glaze over the rest of what they have to say. If the game isn't as bad as D&L then its not the worst ever. And if the graphics are better than Roma Victor than you better believe animations are not "absolutely horrible".
I've seen enough good reviews of this game to give the beta a try myself.
Caravan system, fellowship system, player driven boats, flying mounts, huge world with no instancing, self bindable items, diplomacy sphere, craftable houses and ships...there are tons of innovations and I could keep going but it doesn't matter. You obviously don't care.
/shrug
Why did you get kicked out of beta?
UO - Craftable housing checkSwg - Craftable housing... check
Horizons - Craftable housing... check
Dark n Light - Flying mounts... check
Dark n Light - Huge world with no instancing... check
eq2 self binable items... check
SWG - Player made ships and transports and mounts... check
Innovations? Not hardly unless you are just waking up out of your wow coma.
Please note any reference to SWG is before Smedley treated it like a girly boy in prison. While most of those things exist in other games, neither game has ALL of them. That IS the innovation. The biggest innovation is diplomacy. While its being very rudimental at lower levels, it has a HUGE potential (if done right) at high end levels. Imagine you have a group, you do a raid, suddenly you find a neutral NPC who might join you if you manage to persuade him... or give u a shortcut to your destination, or gives u a new quest, or whatever... This way diplomacy stops being a minigame and becomes a different aspect of the main game. Diplomats would be sought after to get to secret zones, get that extra loot perhaps, find bonus missions or persuade otherwise hostile NPCs to trade/talk with you.
I am also in beta, and I find the whole concept very exciting. Im not playing VSOH a lot (couple of hours a month) so im still brushing just the lowest levels of the game. From what ive seen so far, there are lots of great concepts in this game. Whether Sigil manages to implement them all, thats a different question. I hope they do. This game needs lots and lots of improvements.
Right now the biggest problems im having in this game is the combat - it is not dynamic and fluid enough like it is in WoW. It sort of drags around, very EQ1 style. It needs to go faster and smoother.
The world is beautifull... graphics are amazing, except the character models, they are artisticaly moderate - not great but not bad either. Landscape is ... breathtaking. I made a tons of screenshots at max settings ( thank god for 7850GX2 )
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/677/926ed7ffkt2.jpg
About framerates, yup they are bad, but this game is in BETA... please stop complaining about framerates since the game is still being made. Anything and everything may change by the release date. FPS is better then it was but still fairly bad. I hope they do optimize this game to be playable with better FPS. They did/do a lot of updates so Im very optimistic atm. Keep up the good work, Brad!
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Anyone that thinks Vanguard will ever break 250K subs is crazy, or high, probably both.
Though I don't believe number of subcribers determines the quality of a game, but Vanguard is seriously a niche game, if you think otherwise you haven't read the developers "vision".
I completely agree with Elnator on this one.
No way, no how, will Vanguard come close to even touching WoW in popularity or sales. Quote me on it now, remember it and look at it in six months. NEVER.
The sloppy performance of this dog game alone will stop it from mass sales. When you need a computer that only 10% (at most) of computer gamers own in the first place to run a computer and make it look pretty, or better yet when you have to go through an hour of tweaking to make it play right.... Yeah no way!
Add on top of that it's a damn bore for the none typical MMORPG crowd and this is going no where fast.
Yes I'm sure the game will do well, it will peak and then settle back to around 250k - 350k subs (maybe 500k max) but thats it. Which is still very successfull.
But beat WoW? Hah! Not this one, sorry.
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Oh well, they made one hell of a check list though.
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Caravan system, fellowship system, player driven boats, flying mounts, huge world with no instancing, self bindable items, diplomacy sphere, craftable houses and ships...there are tons of innovations and I could keep going but it doesn't matter. You obviously don't care.
/shrug
Why did you get kicked out of beta?
UO - Craftable housing checkSwg - Craftable housing... check
Horizons - Craftable housing... check
Dark n Light - Flying mounts... check
Dark n Light - Huge world with no instancing... check
eq2 self binable items... check
SWG - Player made ships and transports and mounts... check
Innovations? Not hardly unless you are just waking up out of your wow coma.
Please note any reference to SWG is before Smedley treated it like a girly boy in prison.
I would think the "innovation" is that they've put all these great features into ONE game. In a way you sort of helped proved his point IMO.
I completely agree with Elnator on this one.
No way, no how, will Vanguard come close to even touching WoW in popularity or sales. Quote me on it now, remember it and look at it in six months. NEVER.
The sloppy performance of this dog game alone will stop it from mass sales. When you need a computer that only 10% (at most) of computer gamers own in the first place to run a computer and make it look pretty, or better yet when you have to go through an hour of tweaking to make it play right.... Yeah no way!
Add on top of that it's a damn bore for the none typical MMORPG crowd and this is going no where fast.
Yes I'm sure the game will do well, it will peak and then settle back to around 250k - 350k subs (maybe 500k max) but thats it. Which is still very successfull.
But beat WoW? Hah! Not this one, sorry.
Dog game? Jeez, this is based on how many hours of play? If Vanguard bored you, I suspect you might not have a pulse. I thought you were better than this Shae...
Also, I have a 3 year old rig with a 1.93 ghz processor. It took about 5 minutes to follow the game tweaks other than defragging, which is recomended by MS after you install anything, and I can play it on highest quality. 5 MINUTES. Hour of tweaking maybe if you're mentally challenged.
And let me tell you lady, it is not pretty, it is the most beautiful game in existance and screenshots/videos will not show you this. Take a walk through Leth Nurae if you ever get the chance. The artists outdid themselves. Most beautiful city in a video game ever, period.
You obviously have some axe to grind as I have never heard you be this way. You don't have to diss Vanguard to protect whatever game you are playing or waiting for. Competition is healthy.
"Freedom is just another name for nothing left to lose" - Janis Joplin
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