Thanks....I'm positive that there are certain rules that Muslims hold as far as who is and isn't allowed to read certain parts of the Koran, if I have the time, I'll look them up a little bit later. I remember a college lecture about it from last year though, there's a specific name for these people.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Most people don't realize that Shiites hate Sunnis about as much as they hate Jews and Westerners overall...
This is the one trump card the Western World has, we could evacuate that region at any time and let them tear themselves apart...
Our company deals with lots of Arabs and Persians, quite frankly, my bosses both hate Persians with a passion... They say that is a Persian sees two dollars hanging out of your back pocket, they will shank you in the kidneys and run off with the money... Pretty harsh, but I as a sales rep. have had the misfortune of dealing with a few Persians in my time...
We go to international trade-shows quite often and have Persian and Arab colleagues... One time we sat down to a dinner with a Persian and an Arab, they were very civil towards each other, but as soon as one of them got up to use the restroom, the other would nudge by boss and I and say "He is a Shiite Persian Dog, not worth the mud off of my boots"... Seriously, this is what the Persian said, and the Arab also called the Persian a "dog" behind his back...
My belief is that these Muslim countries are comprised of animals, not humans... Why else would civil war have not existed under Saddam? These animals need to be fiercly governed through fear and death for there to ever be coexisting, hence why Saddam actually "ruled" and why not Iraq is "unruly"... I am not saying Muslims as a whole are at fault, only about 50% of them living in the Middle East...
We need to get out of the Middle East ASAP... Israel is as much to blame as any of their Muslim counterparts... These people do NOT want to live with each other's belief systems or religions, they are hellbent on Muslim law as they see fit...
I said some pretty strong words here, and if you disagree with my prognosis, please explain to me why Iraq was more peaceful under ruthless Saddam Hussein moreso than it is now that Iraq hs been "liberated"...
Most people don't realize that Shiites hate Sunnis about as much as they hate Jews and Westerners overall... - I think people were well aware of the sectarian violence goin on in Iraq between sunni/shiite and everyone vs US. Muslims hate the US Gov't and I guess Jews, they do not overtly hate the west just because they are not muslim. Most citizens of any arab country would kill to be able to come to the US for economic opportunity and an upgraded life.
This is the one trump card the Western World has, we could evacuate that region at any time and let them tear themselves apart... - Muslims have been tearing each other apart from the beginning. I think the war in Iraq has pretty much done that. Other arab countries like Jordan, the Arabian peninsula, are for the most part homogenous and sunni (95% of all muslims are sunni). If there's violence it's Govt' vs people.
Our company deals with lots of Arabs and Persians, quite frankly, my bosses both hate Persians with a passion... They say that is a Persian sees two dollars hanging out of your back pocket, they will shank you in the kidneys and run off with the money... Pretty harsh, but I as a sales rep. have had the misfortune of dealing with a few Persians in my time... - I've been around some serious Persian bashing myself.
We go to international trade-shows quite often and have Persian and Arab colleagues... One time we sat down to a dinner with a Persian and an Arab, they were very civil towards each other, but as soon as one of them got up to use the restroom, the other would nudge by boss and I and say "He is a Shiite Persian Dog, not worth the mud off of my boots"... Seriously, this is what the Persian said, and the Arab also called the Persian a "dog" behind his back... - There is tremendous back biting that goes on in both cultures, despite the fact that backbiting is a huge sin in Islam. Quite funny of course.
My belief is that these Muslim countries are comprised of animals, not humans... Why else would civil war have not existed under Saddam? These animals need to be fiercly governed through fear and death for there to ever be coexisting, hence why Saddam actually "ruled" and why not Iraq is "unruly"... I am not saying Muslims as a whole are at fault, only about 50% of them living in the Middle East... - dude seriously, 50% of the middle east is comprised of animals, I should report you for that but I won't . . . Anyway, most of the middle east may be muslim but they are not overtly relgious. Most of the US is Christian, but how many actually care, I know here in Boston, churches are closing left and right. So would it be right for a middle eastern man to be like, those bloody crusader christians in the US, all they care about it is screwing over the muslim like they did in their original crusades. That woudln't even be remotely accurate, because, i don't even think most people care about religion here. Likewise, in the middle east, most people really don't care. Go to Amman, Jordan in the city square, you'd think you're on Rodeo Drive but middle eastern style. Well not that superficial, but it's close.
The mistake you make is that you judge Islam by every person that was born Muslim, what would happen if a group of, let's say buddhists, went to south america and central america and observed their behavior. Then they come back with, look at these screwed up christians, they do X, and Y, and Z and they're animals and what not. Some of those countries have some seriously screwedup issues. But when a mexican does something unsavory or a venezuelan or a columbian, nobody is like look at these Christians. But when a Jordanian or an Egyptian or a Persian acts like a douchebag, OMG Look at those animalistic muslims.
You see my point, anything screwed up that a person does is only reflected negatively on a religion if the person is Muslim as opposed to anythign else. Look at milosevic and his genocide 10 years back, no one was like, look at those murderous christians. But I guarantee you if it was done by an Arab, even if he was atheist, Islam would be put on trial. The thing is, the arab societies are bullshit, the people and the culture is unsavory and the religion gets put on trial, whereas other countries where the society is also bullshit and the culture is also unsavory, the christian religion is free.
Also, you honestly don't think fundamental Christians don't hate muslims and arabs with a passion? They consider muslims children of the devil practically. When I mean fundamental I mean people like Jesuscamp and hardcore evangelicals and what not. This reminds of another mistake people make, they think the whole Middle East is full of Jesuscamp-like Muslim equilovents and that's completely false. I keep saying this, the spectrum of religiousness that you see in the US with a large range of people falling in the middle ground is akin to the religious spectrum in the mIddle east, most fall into a middle ground and that middle ground is much much more amicable than most people believe.
Disclaimer: When I mean bullshit society and unsavory culture, i mean prevelance of lying, cheating, stealing, bootleg, non-merit based society, widespread corruption, bad mannerisms, etc.
We need to get out of the Middle East ASAP... Israel is as much to blame as any of their Muslim counterparts... These people do NOT want to live with each other's belief systems or religions, they are hellbent on Muslim law as they see fit...
- I'd think 80% of the Middle East would run like hell if their gov't wanted to install Sharia (Muslim Law). Also, read above. Most of the Middle East is just like you and me, they want to get educated, get a job, get married, have kids, go to work, come home watch TV, watch movies, have fancy weddings, drive nice cars, have the latest cell phones, etc .
I said some pretty strong words here, and if you disagree with my prognosis, please explain to me why Iraq was more peaceful under ruthless Saddam Hussein moreso than it is now that Iraq hs been "liberated"... - I think it's a much more complicated issue. I honestly do not have the answer and I do not think that answering this question has any impact on what you said, nor does disability in answering your question validate your statements. You have made a lot of assumptions, despite the fact you haven't lived in the middle east and your exposure and knowledge of the religion and culture is subpar at best.
Draenor,
You can go to any barnes and nobles and get a copy of the full Koran, it's usually the sunni version that's 100% open, i'm not sure what sect of Islam resctricts the Koran, if so, they are not Sunni, and are considered to be heretics. I'm not so sure what the shiite interpretation is, shiite's have way more variations and sects within shiitism than Sunni's do.
Cryomatrix
Catch me streaming at twitch.tv/cryomatrix You can see my sci-fi/WW2 book recommendations.
Most people don't realize that Shiites hate Sunnis about as much as they hate Jews and Westerners overall... - I think people were well aware of the sectarian violence goin on in Iraq between sunni/shiite and everyone vs US. Muslims hate the US Gov't and I guess Jews, they do not overtly hate the west just because they are not muslim. Most citizens of any arab country would kill to be able to come to the US for economic opportunity and an upgraded life.
This is the one trump card the Western World has, we could evacuate that region at any time and let them tear themselves apart... - Muslims have been tearing each other apart from the beginning. I think the war in Iraq has pretty much done that. Other arab countries like Jordan, the Arabian peninsula, are for the most part homogenous and sunni (95% of all muslims are sunni). If there's violence it's Govt' vs people.
Our company deals with lots of Arabs and Persians, quite frankly, my bosses both hate Persians with a passion... They say that is a Persian sees two dollars hanging out of your back pocket, they will shank you in the kidneys and run off with the money... Pretty harsh, but I as a sales rep. have had the misfortune of dealing with a few Persians in my time... - I've been around some serious Persian bashing myself.
We go to international trade-shows quite often and have Persian and Arab colleagues... One time we sat down to a dinner with a Persian and an Arab, they were very civil towards each other, but as soon as one of them got up to use the restroom, the other would nudge by boss and I and say "He is a Shiite Persian Dog, not worth the mud off of my boots"... Seriously, this is what the Persian said, and the Arab also called the Persian a "dog" behind his back... - There is tremendous back biting that goes on in both cultures, despite the fact that backbiting is a huge sin in Islam. Quite funny of course.
My belief is that these Muslim countries are comprised of animals, not humans... Why else would civil war have not existed under Saddam? These animals need to be fiercly governed through fear and death for there to ever be coexisting, hence why Saddam actually "ruled" and why not Iraq is "unruly"... I am not saying Muslims as a whole are at fault, only about 50% of them living in the Middle East... - dude seriously, 50% of the middle east is comprised of animals, I should report you for that but I won't . . . Anyway, most of the middle east may be muslim but they are not overtly relgious. Most of the US is Christian, but how many actually care, I know here in Boston, churches are closing left and right. So would it be right for a middle eastern man to be like, those bloody crusader christians in the US, all they care about it is screwing over the muslim like they did in their original crusades. That woudln't even be remotely accurate, because, i don't even think most people care about religion here. Likewise, in the middle east, most people really don't care. Go to Amman, Jordan in the city square, you'd think you're on Rodeo Drive but middle eastern style. Well not that superficial, but it's close.
The mistake you make is that you judge Islam by every person that was born Muslim, what would happen if a group of, let's say buddhists, went to south america and central america and observed their behavior. Then they come back with, look at these screwed up christians, they do X, and Y, and Z and they're animals and what not. Some of those countries have some seriously screwedup issues. But when a mexican does something unsavory or a venezuelan or a columbian, nobody is like look at these Christians. But when a Jordanian or an Egyptian or a Persian acts like a douchebag, OMG Look at those animalistic muslims.
You see my point, anything screwed up that a person does is only reflected negatively on a religion if the person is Muslim as opposed to anythign else. Look at milosevic and his genocide 10 years back, no one was like, look at those murderous christians. But I guarantee you if it was done by an Arab, even if he was atheist, Islam would be put on trial. The thing is, the arab societies are bullshit, the people and the culture is unsavory and the religion gets put on trial, whereas other countries where the society is also bullshit and the culture is also unsavory, the christian religion is free.
Also, you honestly don't think fundamental Christians don't hate muslims and arabs with a passion? They consider muslims children of the devil practically. When I mean fundamental I mean people like Jesuscamp and hardcore evangelicals and what not. This reminds of another mistake people make, they think the whole Middle East is full of Jesuscamp-like Muslim equilovents and that's completely false. I keep saying this, the spectrum of religiousness that you see in the US with a large range of people falling in the middle ground is akin to the religious spectrum in the mIddle east, most fall into a middle ground and that middle ground is much much more amicable than most people believe.
Disclaimer: When I mean bullshit society and unsavory culture, i mean prevelance of lying, cheating, stealing, bootleg, non-merit based society, widespread corruption, bad mannerisms, etc.
We need to get out of the Middle East ASAP... Israel is as much to blame as any of their Muslim counterparts... These people do NOT want to live with each other's belief systems or religions, they are hellbent on Muslim law as they see fit...
- I'd think 80% of the Middle East would run like hell if their gov't wanted to install Sharia (Muslim Law). Also, read above. Most of the Middle East is just like you and me, they want to get educated, get a job, get married, have kids, go to work, come home watch TV, watch movies, have fancy weddings, drive nice cars, have the latest cell phones, etc .
I said some pretty strong words here, and if you disagree with my prognosis, please explain to me why Iraq was more peaceful under ruthless Saddam Hussein moreso than it is now that Iraq hs been "liberated"... - I think it's a much more complicated issue. I honestly do not have the answer and I do not think that answering this question has any impact on what you said, nor does disability in answering your question validate your statements. You have made a lot of assumptions, despite the fact you haven't lived in the middle east and your exposure and knowledge of the religion and culture is subpar at best.
Draenor,
You can go to any barnes and nobles and get a copy of the full Koran, it's usually the sunni version that's 100% open, i'm not sure what sect of Islam resctricts the Koran, if so, they are not Sunni, and are considered to be heretics. I'm not so sure what the shiite interpretation is, shiite's have way more variations and sects within shiitism than Sunni's do.
Cryomatrix
In regards to your last statement, I think you know the answer as well as I do... The mentality of Iraqis requires a ruthless dictator... End of story... Muslim or not, this part of the world is severely fucked up, has been for the last 2000 years, and will continue to be... It is irreparable and irreconcilable... Repeated summits and peace "accords" have shown that diplomacy is about as useful in the Middle East as a one legged man in an ass kicking contest...
And yes, my knowledge of the Middle East is indeed sub-par... However I am sick and tired of hearing about suicide bombers, embassies getting bombed and Westerners being beheaded... I am also sick and tired of our government pretending to know anything about the Middle East, which they clearly do not... In fact, their misunderstanding of the MIddle East is flawed if they think they can ever establish a democracy in a country inhabited by the likes of Iraqis... I truly think Iraq was better off with Saddam, maybe not the rest of the world, but Iraq for sure...
Also, the sheer number of whacko fundamentalist Christians in the country doesn't hold a candle to the amount of radical Islamists that exist... This is only due to the fact that there are over 2 billion Muslims compared to a much smaller and dwindling Christian population...
This dwindling is a good thing BTW, organized religion, as my esteemed former goverrner Jesse Ventura said is a "Crutch for the weak"... Ok, now I am babbling, its time to go home now...
2000 years Dis Ordur? Circa 850AD, the Middle East was probably one of the more stable places in the world. Ironically, it took Crusaders and Mongols, and to a lesser extent, Turks, to upset that balance.
Re: Your theory that Iraqi's are aimless without a dictator. Are you going to throw the same accusation at the Chinese and the Russians? The Russians have only just dicovered *some* political freedom since 1991 for the first time in their history. While Europe was experimenting with social welfare and liberal reforms in the 19th century, Russia was ruled by a guy who's mandate actually described him as an autocrat.
The Chinese, arguably, have never had plitical freedom. In fact, I've heard China described as a nation of peasants ruled by an authoritarian elite - whether Emperor or Communist...
There are 1.2 Billion Muslims. only roughly 14% of muslims are Arabic and and a less percent can even read the Koran in its original language of Arabic. The prevelance of beheadings and bombings and what not may seem prevelant to you but you are not looking at things from all angles. They seem prevelant because whenever they happen they are all over the news.
However, when Christian countries do bullshit things that never enters your mind, i.e Milosevic's "ethnic cleansing" which is a nice euphemism for genocide. You don't hear about the number of innocent iraqi civilians that got screwed by Saddam which the uS supported or the ones who got screwed by the bombings in the US.
I still can't believe that Israel got away with the bullshit that they did over the summer. Like it's mindboggling how they got away with bombing the shit out of a country like Lebanon and for what? What about what the whole Middle East went through as they kept getting colonized and owned by Britian, French, and Italy. You think the Italians who controlled Libya about 50 years ago (I tihnk it was Libya) treated the population like crap and prevented people from going to school.
You talk as if muslims are animals and everyone else is friggin Mary Poppins. You don't think the US/Britain and other countries don't have the blood of hundreds and thousands of people on their hands and for what? Resources and politics. And seriously, isn't the most barbaric and terroristic act in the world the dropping of the nuclear bomb?
I'm sorry i don't think it was justified, the Nuke was used to intimidate Japan into submission, I can't imagine there wasn' another way to show the Japanese the power of the nuclear bomb. So before you go off to thinking that Muslims are animals, look at what, i hate to say this, but the white man has done. Hell in the 1950-1960's, blacks were treated like dogs. How barbaric is that? The whole south was full of nutcases huh? I was born in 1981 and I jsut can't believe that a generation back, a large majority of people had no problems with segregation and colored areas and restaurants only.
Furthermore, how many homocides are there in the US, how many children shoot up there school in the US, how many people kill their kids in their US. For anyone who knows what life is like in the middle east, these acts that occur in the US seem so crazy to them. Believe me when I say most people in the middle east are just like you and me, they are on a spectrum ranging from leftist to rightist and the ones that make all the news are the few that are on the fringe of the rightist spectrum.
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Originally posted by baff Israel isn't firing dick. It's in range of Irans ballistic missiles. Iran doesn't need nukes to wipe Israel off the map. It can do it anytime it wants to. Israel is staying well out of it.
Chemical warheads, a dirty nuke, they don't want it. When Iran couldn't hit back it was different.
israel would roll iran in a 1v1 war, their military is awesome. its being surrounded that is the problem.
I doubt Iran or Israel would be able to invade eachother.
Israel had a barrel load of trouble trying to get into Lebanon even. They made it what? 6 miles?
The problem with Iran for Israel is the same problem they had with Hezbollah. Israel is in artillery range.
Iran has a lot of missiles capable of hitting Israel and it's a very concentrated target, unlike Iran.
Israels airforce is only able to operate at extreme range over Iran, and once again must travel through Jordan and Iraq or Syria and Iraq to get there. It has 50 missiles capable of hitiing Iran, so WMD is it's only real option of any serious note.
Israel is in range of Iran. I doubt Iran or Israel would be able to invade eachother. Israel had a barrel load of trouble trying to get into Lebanon even. They made it what? 6 miles?
The problem with Iran for Israel is the same problem they had with Hezbollah. Israel is in artillery range. Iran has a lot of missiles capable of hitting Israel and it's a very concentrated target, unlike Iran.
Israels airforce is only able to operate at extreme range over Iran, and once again must travel through Jordan and Iraq or Syria and Iraq to get there. It has 50 missiles capable of hitiing Iran, so WMD is it's only real option of any serious note.
In light of what Baff said, Israel's population is only 5m whereas Iran is much larger, i think i remember it being around 60m. Israel may have a technology advantage but not the terrain or the numbers advantage. Due to Israel's small number, they are ridiculously cautious when it comes to putting their soldiers at risk. I mean they only have 5m people, what a small number, they would lose so many people with an invasion of Iran. Plus, Israel will just trick the US into invading Iran . . . just kidding.
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Originally posted by Cryomatrix ...... Plus, Israel will just trick the US into invading Iran . . . just kidding.
lol, good one. But, as we all know, all it takes for us to attack Iran is Israel offering our elected officials a boatload of money through their Washington lobbyists. It's not as if our politicians would have any qualms about selling America down the river.....
The US Congress, the only whorehouse in the United States that can't turn a profit.
normally a medium sized asteroid hitting the earth would be considered a bad thing..if it struck this region we'd have our politicians to thank for not allocating more funds to search for them
i say they should both press the red button at the same time and do us all a favour
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Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Most people don't realize that Shiites hate Sunnis about as much as they hate Jews and Westerners overall...
This is the one trump card the Western World has, we could evacuate that region at any time and let them tear themselves apart...
Our company deals with lots of Arabs and Persians, quite frankly, my bosses both hate Persians with a passion... They say that is a Persian sees two dollars hanging out of your back pocket, they will shank you in the kidneys and run off with the money... Pretty harsh, but I as a sales rep. have had the misfortune of dealing with a few Persians in my time...
We go to international trade-shows quite often and have Persian and Arab colleagues... One time we sat down to a dinner with a Persian and an Arab, they were very civil towards each other, but as soon as one of them got up to use the restroom, the other would nudge by boss and I and say "He is a Shiite Persian Dog, not worth the mud off of my boots"... Seriously, this is what the Persian said, and the Arab also called the Persian a "dog" behind his back...
My belief is that these Muslim countries are comprised of animals, not humans... Why else would civil war have not existed under Saddam? These animals need to be fiercly governed through fear and death for there to ever be coexisting, hence why Saddam actually "ruled" and why not Iraq is "unruly"... I am not saying Muslims as a whole are at fault, only about 50% of them living in the Middle East...
We need to get out of the Middle East ASAP... Israel is as much to blame as any of their Muslim counterparts... These people do NOT want to live with each other's belief systems or religions, they are hellbent on Muslim law as they see fit...
I said some pretty strong words here, and if you disagree with my prognosis, please explain to me why Iraq was more peaceful under ruthless Saddam Hussein moreso than it is now that Iraq hs been "liberated"...
You can see my sci-fi/WW2 book recommendations.
It wouldn't surprise me if israel did actually use mini nukes. i just hope for their sake that Iran doesn't already have nukes by then.
Aslong as Saudi Arabia doesn't interfere, Israel can freely fly over Iran.
I don't think Israel can freely fly over Iran, what's the range of an F16? What's an antique F-14 like versus this years SAMs?
I don't know what delivery system Israel has for their nukes, but I suspect it is aeroplane mounted.
In regards to your last statement, I think you know the answer as well as I do... The mentality of Iraqis requires a ruthless dictator... End of story... Muslim or not, this part of the world is severely fucked up, has been for the last 2000 years, and will continue to be... It is irreparable and irreconcilable... Repeated summits and peace "accords" have shown that diplomacy is about as useful in the Middle East as a one legged man in an ass kicking contest...
And yes, my knowledge of the Middle East is indeed sub-par... However I am sick and tired of hearing about suicide bombers, embassies getting bombed and Westerners being beheaded... I am also sick and tired of our government pretending to know anything about the Middle East, which they clearly do not... In fact, their misunderstanding of the MIddle East is flawed if they think they can ever establish a democracy in a country inhabited by the likes of Iraqis... I truly think Iraq was better off with Saddam, maybe not the rest of the world, but Iraq for sure...
Also, the sheer number of whacko fundamentalist Christians in the country doesn't hold a candle to the amount of radical Islamists that exist... This is only due to the fact that there are over 2 billion Muslims compared to a much smaller and dwindling Christian population...
This dwindling is a good thing BTW, organized religion, as my esteemed former goverrner Jesse Ventura said is a "Crutch for the weak"... Ok, now I am babbling, its time to go home now...
2000 years Dis Ordur? Circa 850AD, the Middle East was probably one of the more stable places in the world. Ironically, it took Crusaders and Mongols, and to a lesser extent, Turks, to upset that balance.
Re: Your theory that Iraqi's are aimless without a dictator. Are you going to throw the same accusation at the Chinese and the Russians? The Russians have only just dicovered *some* political freedom since 1991 for the first time in their history. While Europe was experimenting with social welfare and liberal reforms in the 19th century, Russia was ruled by a guy who's mandate actually described him as an autocrat.
The Chinese, arguably, have never had plitical freedom. In fact, I've heard China described as a nation of peasants ruled by an authoritarian elite - whether Emperor or Communist...
There are 1.2 Billion Muslims. only roughly 14% of muslims are Arabic and and a less percent can even read the Koran in its original language of Arabic. The prevelance of beheadings and bombings and what not may seem prevelant to you but you are not looking at things from all angles. They seem prevelant because whenever they happen they are all over the news.
However, when Christian countries do bullshit things that never enters your mind, i.e Milosevic's "ethnic cleansing" which is a nice euphemism for genocide. You don't hear about the number of innocent iraqi civilians that got screwed by Saddam which the uS supported or the ones who got screwed by the bombings in the US.
I still can't believe that Israel got away with the bullshit that they did over the summer. Like it's mindboggling how they got away with bombing the shit out of a country like Lebanon and for what? What about what the whole Middle East went through as they kept getting colonized and owned by Britian, French, and Italy. You think the Italians who controlled Libya about 50 years ago (I tihnk it was Libya) treated the population like crap and prevented people from going to school.
You talk as if muslims are animals and everyone else is friggin Mary Poppins. You don't think the US/Britain and other countries don't have the blood of hundreds and thousands of people on their hands and for what? Resources and politics. And seriously, isn't the most barbaric and terroristic act in the world the dropping of the nuclear bomb?
I'm sorry i don't think it was justified, the Nuke was used to intimidate Japan into submission, I can't imagine there wasn' another way to show the Japanese the power of the nuclear bomb. So before you go off to thinking that Muslims are animals, look at what, i hate to say this, but the white man has done. Hell in the 1950-1960's, blacks were treated like dogs. How barbaric is that? The whole south was full of nutcases huh? I was born in 1981 and I jsut can't believe that a generation back, a large majority of people had no problems with segregation and colored areas and restaurants only.
Furthermore, how many homocides are there in the US, how many children shoot up there school in the US, how many people kill their kids in their US. For anyone who knows what life is like in the middle east, these acts that occur in the US seem so crazy to them. Believe me when I say most people in the middle east are just like you and me, they are on a spectrum ranging from leftist to rightist and the ones that make all the news are the few that are on the fringe of the rightist spectrum.
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A lot of people, including many military experts, don't agree with you.
Iran is not an Arabic nation - it's not quite that simple.
Israel is in range of Iran.
I doubt Iran or Israel would be able to invade eachother.
Israel had a barrel load of trouble trying to get into Lebanon even. They made it what? 6 miles?
The problem with Iran for Israel is the same problem they had with Hezbollah. Israel is in artillery range.
Iran has a lot of missiles capable of hitting Israel and it's a very concentrated target, unlike Iran.
Israels airforce is only able to operate at extreme range over Iran, and once again must travel through Jordan and Iraq or Syria and Iraq to get there. It has 50 missiles capable of hitiing Iran, so WMD is it's only real option of any serious note.
In light of what Baff said, Israel's population is only 5m whereas Iran is much larger, i think i remember it being around 60m. Israel may have a technology advantage but not the terrain or the numbers advantage. Due to Israel's small number, they are ridiculously cautious when it comes to putting their soldiers at risk. I mean they only have 5m people, what a small number, they would lose so many people with an invasion of Iran. Plus, Israel will just trick the US into invading Iran . . . just kidding.
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lol, good one. But, as we all know, all it takes for us to attack Iran is Israel offering our elected officials a boatload of money through their Washington lobbyists. It's not as if our politicians would have any qualms about selling America down the river.....
The US Congress, the only whorehouse in the United States that can't turn a profit.
i say they should both press the red button at the same time and do us all a favour