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Bottom line. You tried it, now will you buy it?

gillvane1gillvane1 Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,503
Ok, so you tried the open beta. For those that have played enough to make up their minds, whether that's an hour or several months, (everyone takes a different approach to making a decision), are you going to buy it, or not?



I'm talking about release, or shortly after, not a year from now, not after an expansion, or some other future event that may or may not happen.



Just plain old, you tried it, now will you buy it?



There isn't an answer for those that haven't decided yet, because that's not the question.





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  • RanddRandd Member Posts: 409
    As of right this moment, no. As we get closer to launch and they do something with the game performance then i might change my mind.

    (before anyone says i did all the game tweaks and it has helped a litlle, but not enough)
  • End_of_a_eraEnd_of_a_era Member Posts: 527
    Maybe in a years time if nothing better has come along

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  • anarchyartanarchyart Member Posts: 5,378
    Originally posted by Randd

    As of right this moment, no. As we get closer to launch and they do something with the game performance then i might change my mind.

    (before anyone says i did all the game tweaks and it has helped a litlle, but not enough)
    Keep checking in Rannd! In the last 2 days they have improved performance a lot! It's mostly about the servers, and they are constantly resetting and tweaking. Keep checking in!

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  • End_of_a_eraEnd_of_a_era Member Posts: 527

    I got;

    x1950xtx 512mb

    core 2 duo 6700

    2 gb 1033mhz corsair ram



    I get about 250FPS on CSS but on Vanguard im getting a very stuttery 20fps with default settings on : which i think is balance. This happened since beta 5 though :P I think the servers effect your performance because of the delay + im from UK so lag will be even worse.

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  • gillvane1gillvane1 Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,503
    I'm gonna buy it. What the heck, I own just about every other MMORPG box out there. I'm not saying whether or not they can keep my subscription for a really long time, but the world is worth exploring, at least till Warhammer comes out so I can RvR. It's such cheap entertainment when you look at it per hour, and there's nothing else out there close at the moment, at least for me.



    My initial impression wasn't that great, because really the start areas need work IMO, but after looking around the world really is rather amazing.
  • RanddRandd Member Posts: 409
    Am doing that Anarc, not one of those people that uninstalled first day Did seem a bit better today Fps wise, but client crashes every 10 minutes are even worse. hehe
  • slapme7timesslapme7times Member Posts: 436
    maybe the reason vanguard has no fsaa option is because no rig in existence can run it with decent framerates without it.



    probably would explode your computer to turn on aa.



    anyway...   the game has really piss poor graphics and art direction...  looks like a bunch of copied and pasted bumpmapped textures reused millions of times.

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  • End_of_a_eraEnd_of_a_era Member Posts: 527

    wrong topic

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  • gillvane1gillvane1 Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,503
    Well there is one thing that creeps me out, and I don't know if everyone else gets this. When the camera moves close to the back of my head, the back of my head opens up and I can see my eyeballs inside my characters head. It's gross.
  • ZekiahZekiah Member UncommonPosts: 2,483
    No, not unless they fix animations and make the game fun. It's not enjoyable in its current condition.

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  • stylee99stylee99 Member Posts: 116
    This is all part of stress testing...it's normal man, so don't get too discouraged. It will be better.
  • holifeetholifeet Member Posts: 532
    It's the gameplay that is uninspiring, as opposed to the performance. The performance is, in many ways, to be expected. The gameplay is just dull and uninspiring. The quest system is borrowed from EQ2 and WoW. The brokers are borrowed from EQ2 and EQs bazaar (the worst thing about EQ). The combat is too fast and lacking in options. The game starts to slowly and too easily; I got to level 13 in beta and was thoroughly bored of doing the same thing over and over. I got to 30 before that feeling hit me in EQ2.



    Vanguard is not the game we were promised and expected to see. The whole expereince is linear and uninspriring. It all lends itself to being a game rather than a world to get lost in. EQ was the last time we will see a world to get lost in.



    Yes, some of you may recognise my name. I have been following Vanguard a long time and that is the main reason I am so disapointed with the game. I've stuck up for Sigil numerous times, but now I realise they went back on their plans for an immersive game and just joined the modern idea of MMO's rollercoaster that started with WoW.



    We were promised a comprehensive diplomacy sphere that made one part of the world about them and incorporating a quest system of massive proportions and scope. What we got was half of that. Diplomacy is nice, I'll admit, but it is still half of what it could have been. I felt like I was playing the same game over and over when I tried it, ie there wasn't a huge scope for variation of tactics. The quest system is apalling. The graphics plonked above quests givers lends the game the approach of being a guided demo for a solo RP game; go here, speak to him, kill x llama's and y rabbits and return to here...when done move on to the next area. One of Sigil's earlier beta guides actually asked players if they felt zone progressionw as easy enough to follow, ie did the game accurately help you to follow the progression from chunk A to chunk B and on to chunk C.



    We were promised combat that was slow and tactical. There supposed to be pauses were you had to decide what move you wanted to play next. If you chose the wrong move you might change the whole course of the encounter in the enemies favour. Choose correctly and a whole path of glorious options open up for you. What we actually have is button spamming. At each level you gain spells you are able to work out, within 5 battles, the tactic you will use until your next spell level. It is, more often than not, pull with nuke, begin melee, cast your specials when they become available, melee to conserve mana and stamina (whatever the bars were), finish mob of with a blast of nuke. Rinse and repeat.



    We were promised convoluted and extrvagant regional economies. We now have a regional broker in city banks. Who will ever use player vendors to sell stuff when they can run to the bank and quickly place their items down with the minimum of effort?



    Just three examples. I'm so unimpressed and unsatisfied based on my assumptions. It's like Sigil took the easy way out when they had an option of interesting and intruiging or same old, same old WoW route of games that reward too easy. Quick rewards and fixes are not the only method. Sigil seemed to understand that once upon a time and they were making a game that explored the opposite. They were...



    Will I buy the game? I dunno to be very honest. I am trying to get into it, and have been trying to get into it since I joined beta in beta 3. I left for a while and hoped to come back to a much more inspriring game in beta 5. Hasn't shown itself to me yet. Maybe I can find more fun when the game is crowded and there is a community. I'm seriously put off by Vanguard's quest dependency and the new use of regional broker/bazaar/markets. Brad once said that having a bazaar like system is negative to the game...how quickly and surprisingly a person's ideals can change it seems.



    I don't hate the game. It looks nice and there is a deeply hidden promise and hope that future changes will bring back what was promised. I just find it uninspiring and I miss what was promised.



    If I play I can't see the fun lasting much longer than a few months so maybe I should ask myself, 'why bother?'.



    It makes me sad to look at the route things took. I feel like I lost a good friend.

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  • JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321
    LOL 14 posts all but 2 negative yet the poll shows 32 votes with 62% positive, looks like th efanbois are busy with their alt logins LOL. Why bother? Rigged polls won't make people stay if they are not enjoying it.

    I miss DAoC

  • godpuppetgodpuppet Member Posts: 1,416
    The game is just too laggy on my system, until they sort its performance out or until I can afford an upgrade, ill be skipping this game.

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  • holifeetholifeet Member Posts: 532
    Originally posted by Jackdog

    LOL 14 posts all but 2 negative yet the poll shows 32 votes with 62% positive, looks like th efanbois are busy with their alt logins LOL
    Well if many of the doubters are like me then they are doubters because they expected something more than what Vanguard is. For that reason they may still be trying to find some lasting appeal and so are undecided. The poll has no 'undecided' option.

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  • ghoul31ghoul31 Member Posts: 1,955

    Im going to buy it because this is the only big MMORPG coming out for a while. The rest won't be out till summer. So I guess I'll just have to accept it for what it is.

     

  • gatherisgatheris Member UncommonPosts: 1,016
    Originally posted by ghoul31


    Im going to buy it because this is the only big MMORPG coming out for a while. The rest won't be out till summer. So I guess I'll just have to accept it for what it is.
     

    man, i find this really really sad

    maybe this is why the game is coming out so soon - just to be the only new choice available

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  • sukmeisukmei Member Posts: 21

    At this time I will not buy it.

    As long as its free I will continue to login.

  • JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321
    Originally posted by ghoul31


    Im going to buy it because this is the only big MMORPG coming out for a while. The rest won't be out till summer. So I guess I'll just have to accept it for what it is.
     
    Companies like SOE just loves customers like you. Thats how they  stay in business putting out half arse finished games. Each to their own though, I just thank the lord I am not that hard up for something to do

    I miss DAoC

  • CarraraCarrara Member UncommonPosts: 111

    At this point in testing, the server cluster has NOT moved to SOE. So how can the game be hosted by SOE yet? It's not! That's something to consider; SOE has always had a pretty big redundent pipe.

    Once Sigil move the game server cluster to SOE datacenter, things will be quite different. Once the game is anounced as Gold, they will move over to the SOE datacenter; but not before then. I'm certain that Sigil, because the game is still in Beta, have not developed their support tools, tech documents, and escalation procedures for Vanguard yet.

    Why most do not understand the BETA process better, is beyond me. Haven't there been enough BETA tests out in the MMO realm yet?

    Sheesh

  • JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321
    Originally posted by Carrara


    At this point in testing, the server cluster has NOT moved to SOE. So how can the game be hosted by SOE yet? It's not! That's something to consider; SOE has always had a pretty big redundent pipe.
    Once Sigil move the game server cluster to SOE datacenter, things will be quite different. Once the game is anounced as Gold, they will move over to the SOE datacenter; but not before then. I'm certain that Sigil, because the game is still in Beta, have not developed their support tools, tech documents, and escalation procedures for Vanguard yet.
    Why most do not understand the BETA process better, is beyond me. Haven't there been enough BETA tests out in the MMO realm yet?
    Sheesh
    SOE is still the ones pulling the purse strings and forcing Sigils hand to release the game prematurely.

    I miss DAoC

  • dinkdink Member Posts: 438




    It won't run for crap on my machine. . .  does that count as trying it?
  • dimmit77dimmit77 Member Posts: 294

    I have been playing Vanguard 3 days now, will definetely buy it since feels to me like eq2 with a lot more options. Wether it will hold my subscription or not depends on how the game plays after level 40. Server crashes, performance and bugs are kind of irritating but to be expected I guess in a beta. There're a lot of things to be fixed still, hope they manage it before the end of the month.

    Only real downside is that  this game together with oblivion, NWN2 and Gothic 3 demand an upgrade on my old comp :(  . 

  • tonestones Member Posts: 60

    I will definately be buying it.

     

    Even with some bugs and performance issues this game is better than anything I have played since EQ1 and DAOC.  For those that buy into the negative hype the game is getting without even trying it you are going to miss out on an awesome experience.

     

    I don't think anyone expects the MMO masses (which is mainly WoW) to play VG.  Its geared towards an entire difference audiencce.  Its for mature players who enjoy a challenge and the community in an MMO.

     

    Remember,,,,the people enjoying the beta are in the game playing and not out on the boards trolling....there are currently 9000 people online playing and everyone I ask say they are hooked on the game already....its true there are bugs and some performance issues....but it is truly getting better every day....they patched twice yesterday for god's sake on a Saturday!

  • EnigmaEnigma Member UncommonPosts: 11,384
    no

    People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.

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