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  • boognish75boognish75 Member UncommonPosts: 1,540
    that was a lame analogy, dont you go to a themepark because of the rides there you know of and want to go on predetermined?

    playing eq2 and two worlds

  • calubobcalubob Member Posts: 36
    ^^Again I just wanted to piss you off and I see i have succeeded.



    Not you boognish
  • boognish75boognish75 Member UncommonPosts: 1,540
    lol, nge sux ass dude , you have to admit that, i played nge swg, and it sux compared to ol' skool swg, but obraik will swear up n down its the funnest thing since silly puddy.
    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by calubob

    Call it what you want. The game is still crap there are many others who agree with me, in fact it is so bad they had to make it f2p believe me they didn't make that decision because the game is a winner.
    And since when does playerbase even slightly hint towards a game quality? That would mean Saga of Ryzom and Asherons Call are poor games as well. The game is only crap in your opinion, which is based on VERY little experience of the game. Its like going to a theme park, check one ride, and then yell the entire theme park sucks.

    Originally posted by boognish75

    gameloading is to archlord as obraik is to swg.
    Correct, People who actually PLAY the full game.

    playing eq2 and two worlds

  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Originally posted by boognish75

    that was a lame analogy, dont you go to a themepark because of the rides there you know of and want to go on predetermined?
    I certainly don't.
  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Originally posted by boognish75

    lol, nge sux ass dude , you have to admit that, i played nge swg, and it sux compared to ol' skool swg, but obraik will swear up n down its the funnest thing since silly puddy.Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by calubob

    Call it what you want. The game is still crap there are many others who agree with me, in fact it is so bad they had to make it f2p believe me they didn't make that decision because the game is a winner.
    And since when does playerbase even slightly hint towards a game quality? That would mean Saga of Ryzom and Asherons Call are poor games as well. The game is only crap in your opinion, which is based on VERY little experience of the game. Its like going to a theme park, check one ride, and then yell the entire theme park sucks.

    Originally posted by boognish75

    gameloading is to archlord as obraik is to swg.
    Correct, People who actually PLAY the full game.

    While I certainly agree SWG NGE is not as good as the old SWG, its not as bad as some people make it out to be.  Most people are mad because NGE SWG REPLACED Old SWG, while it plays like a complete diffrent game, and is aimed at a complete diffrent audience. Had SWG NGE been released besides old SWG, the amount of negativity would not be this big.
  • calubobcalubob Member Posts: 36
    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by calubob

    Call it what you want. The game is still crap there are many others who agree with me, in fact it is so bad they had to make it f2p believe me they didn't make that decision because the game is a winner.
    And since when does playerbase even slightly hint towards a game quality? That would mean Saga of Ryzom and Asherons Call are poor games as well. The game is only crap in your opinion, which is based on VERY little experience of the game. Its like going to a theme park, check one ride, and then yell the entire theme park sucks.

    Originally posted by boognish75

    gameloading is to archlord as obraik is to swg.
    Correct, People who actually PLAY the full game. If its like going to a theme that everyone says sucks then yes it is very much like going to a theme park. And I never said playerbase effects the quality of the game, quality of the game effects quailty of the game, large playerbase is just a plus.
  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Originally posted by calubob

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by calubob

    Call it what you want. The game is still crap there are many others who agree with me, in fact it is so bad they had to make it f2p believe me they didn't make that decision because the game is a winner.
    And since when does playerbase even slightly hint towards a game quality? That would mean Saga of Ryzom and Asherons Call are poor games as well. The game is only crap in your opinion, which is based on VERY little experience of the game. Its like going to a theme park, check one ride, and then yell the entire theme park sucks.

    Originally posted by boognish75

    gameloading is to archlord as obraik is to swg.
    Correct, People who actually PLAY the full game. If its like going to a theme that everyone says sucks then yes it is very much like going to a theme park. And I never said playerbase effects the quality of the game, quality of the game effects quailty of the game, large playerbase is just a plus. Fortunatly, Not everyone says AL sucks, and FYI, you, in fact, DID say player base reflects quality.



    ", in fact it is so bad they had to make it f2p"



    Please don't contradict yourself.
  • mbbladembblade Member Posts: 747

    PVP is open, so you can Pk anyone you see and care to kill. Everything is pretty much open and the only thing this game has is ahh grinding.

  • calubobcalubob Member Posts: 36
    Quality of the game directly effects the player base so if the game sucks it's gonna have a low playerbase.... which is why it's f2p because they need the sales to get some of their money back.
  • boognish75boognish75 Member UncommonPosts: 1,540
    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by boognish75

    lol, nge sux ass dude , you have to admit that, i played nge swg, and it sux compared to ol' skool swg, but obraik will swear up n down its the funnest thing since silly puddy.Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by calubob

    Call it what you want. The game is still crap there are many others who agree with me, in fact it is so bad they had to make it f2p believe me they didn't make that decision because the game is a winner.
    And since when does playerbase even slightly hint towards a game quality? That would mean Saga of Ryzom and Asherons Call are poor games as well. The game is only crap in your opinion, which is based on VERY little experience of the game. Its like going to a theme park, check one ride, and then yell the entire theme park sucks.

    Originally posted by boognish75

    gameloading is to archlord as obraik is to swg.
    Correct, People who actually PLAY the full game.

    While I certainly agree SWG NGE is not as good as the old SWG, its not as bad as some people make it out to be.  Most people are mad because NGE SWG REPLACED Old SWG, while it plays like a complete diffrent game, and is aimed at a complete diffrent audience. Had SWG NGE been released besides old SWG, the amount of negativity would not be this big.

    dude dont try to sugar coat dogshit.

    playing eq2 and two worlds

  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Originally posted by calubob

    Quality of the game directly effects the player base so if the game sucks it's gonna have a low playerbase.... which is why it's f2p because they need the sales to get some of their money back.
    Again, by your standards, games like Asherons call, the Saga of Ryzom, and the Matrix Online are considered "poor quality" because they do not have a high playerbase.  Flawed theory at its best eh?
  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Originally posted by boognish75

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by boognish75

    lol, nge sux ass dude , you have to admit that, i played nge swg, and it sux compared to ol' skool swg, but obraik will swear up n down its the funnest thing since silly puddy.Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by calubob

    Call it what you want. The game is still crap there are many others who agree with me, in fact it is so bad they had to make it f2p believe me they didn't make that decision because the game is a winner.
    And since when does playerbase even slightly hint towards a game quality? That would mean Saga of Ryzom and Asherons Call are poor games as well. The game is only crap in your opinion, which is based on VERY little experience of the game. Its like going to a theme park, check one ride, and then yell the entire theme park sucks.

    Originally posted by boognish75

    gameloading is to archlord as obraik is to swg.
    Correct, People who actually PLAY the full game.

    While I certainly agree SWG NGE is not as good as the old SWG, its not as bad as some people make it out to be.  Most people are mad because NGE SWG REPLACED Old SWG, while it plays like a complete diffrent game, and is aimed at a complete diffrent audience. Had SWG NGE been released besides old SWG, the amount of negativity would not be this big.

    dude dont try to sugar coat dogshit. Yes, shame on me for looking at the full picture.
  • calubobcalubob Member Posts: 36
    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by calubob

    Quality of the game directly effects the player base so if the game sucks it's gonna have a low playerbase.... which is why it's f2p because they need the sales to get some of their money back.
    Again, by your standards, games like Asherons call, the Saga of Ryzom, and the Matrix Online are considered "poor quality" because they do not have a high playerbase.  Flawed theory at its best eh? AC is old people got bored. Ryzom is in fact fun just a nasty launch which makes people insecure about gettng it. Matrix I dont know anything about it. And as far as I know none of those games went f2p. Archlord on the other hand... is in fact f2p because it was either that or shut the game down.
  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Originally posted by calubob

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by calubob

    Quality of the game directly effects the player base so if the game sucks it's gonna have a low playerbase.... which is why it's f2p because they need the sales to get some of their money back.
    Again, by your standards, games like Asherons call, the Saga of Ryzom, and the Matrix Online are considered "poor quality" because they do not have a high playerbase.  Flawed theory at its best eh? AC is old people got bored. Ryzom is in fact fun just a nasty launch which makes people insecure about gettng it. Matrix I dont know anything about it. And as far as I know none of those games went f2p. Archlord on the other hand... is in fact f2p because it was either that or shut the game down. F2p doesn't mean it is a last saviour of the game, far from it.it could problaly keep on going as a p2p title, as all the other versions of the game are item shop as well, and looking at the success of other item shop mmorpg's, it was only the most logical thing to do. the game was build with the item shop in mind, its free to play in every region.  the game is doing quite well in Korea and China. technical speaking all it really needs to cover in the west is hosting + staff and more things like that.
  • calubobcalubob Member Posts: 36
    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by calubob

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by calubob

    Quality of the game directly effects the player base so if the game sucks it's gonna have a low playerbase.... which is why it's f2p because they need the sales to get some of their money back.
    Again, by your standards, games like Asherons call, the Saga of Ryzom, and the Matrix Online are considered "poor quality" because they do not have a high playerbase.  Flawed theory at its best eh? AC is old people got bored. Ryzom is in fact fun just a nasty launch which makes people insecure about gettng it. Matrix I dont know anything about it. And as far as I know none of those games went f2p. Archlord on the other hand... is in fact f2p because it was either that or shut the game down. F2p doesn't mean it is a last saviour of the game, far from it. it was only the most logical thing to do. the game was build with the item shop in mind, its free to play in every region.  the game is doing quite well in Korea and China. technical speaking all it really needs to cover in the west is hosting + staff and more things like that. If it were made to f2p with an item shop how come it was p2p? Whatever I no longer care lets just agree to disagree. The game is the best f2p game out along with GW so people shoud by all means give it a shot.
  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Originally posted by calubob

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by calubob

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by calubob

    Quality of the game directly effects the player base so if the game sucks it's gonna have a low playerbase.... which is why it's f2p because they need the sales to get some of their money back.
    Again, by your standards, games like Asherons call, the Saga of Ryzom, and the Matrix Online are considered "poor quality" because they do not have a high playerbase.  Flawed theory at its best eh? AC is old people got bored. Ryzom is in fact fun just a nasty launch which makes people insecure about gettng it. Matrix I dont know anything about it. And as far as I know none of those games went f2p. Archlord on the other hand... is in fact f2p because it was either that or shut the game down. F2p doesn't mean it is a last saviour of the game, far from it. it was only the most logical thing to do. the game was build with the item shop in mind, its free to play in every region.  the game is doing quite well in Korea and China. technical speaking all it really needs to cover in the west is hosting + staff and more things like that. If it were made to f2p with an item shop how come it was p2p? Whatever I no longer care lets just agree to disagree. The game is the best f2p game out along with GW so people shoud by all means give it a shot. Just to answer that first question, Probably to see how it would do. it seems CM is trying to see which pricing model works best for ArchLord. first with playplus, then a monthly fee, and they now found the right pricing system.
  • vajurasvajuras Member Posts: 2,860
    Well even though the OP's opinion might not weigh as heavily as an AL vet still its amazing how much he got flamed for posting his opinion. It should only take like 5-15 mins to figure out if a game blows I dont care if its an MMORPG or a console game. Every Dev knows to polish the begining of their game especially an MMORPG. now, if the OP was trying to give an indepth review it would be different but he's just elaborating on how his initial experience was. Not sure why fanbois act like every single negative post about their favorite game is like a mortal wound to the very fiber of their being lol.
  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Originally posted by vajuras

    Well even though the OP's opinion might not weigh as heavily as an AL vet still its amazing how much he got flamed for posting his opinion. It should only take like 5-15 mins to figure out if a game blows I dont care if its an MMORPG or a console game. Every Dev knows to polish the begining of their game especially an MMORPG. now, if the OP was trying to give an indepth review it would be different but he's just elaborating on how his initial experience was. Not sure why fanbois act like every single negative post about their favorite game is like a mortal wound to the very fiber of their being lol.
    Its his own fault, really. It does take 5-15 minutes for a game like WoW to see what the game is like, because the game is like that all the way up to level 70. You can't see the full game like Archlord in 5-15 minutes, its that simple. so called "fanbois" point out that him saying that the game "sucks" and that its one of the worst games ever,  is based on a few hours of the game, with very little content actually played.
  • FatamorganaFatamorgana Member Posts: 110

    This is (maybe) offtopic but:

    Archlord is one of the games i eagarly waited when i saw it was coming,the idea of becaming Archlord was inspiring,hec it's still game i want to try, no matter local game magazine called Pelit gave it 33 out of 100.

    And game is not bad if it has low player population, it still can be good even great.

    why they i don't get Archlord? I'm economizing,i don't spend money everywhere i don't wanna spend 49,95 € to game that can be total catastrophe, but it can also be great game,then it's my foult that i missed it

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  • vajurasvajuras Member Posts: 2,860

    What makes Archlord any different from Elder Scrolls: Oblivion, Lost Planet, Gears of War, etc? I dont care what kind of game you're making you better polish the very begining that's all there is to it. how many movies have you stuck with through the entire thing even though you knew it blew while watching it on TV? Did you stick around and watch to the final conclusion? or do you do what ev1 I know does- change the channel as soon as you determine it sucks.

  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Originally posted by vajuras


    What makes Archlord any different from Elder Scrolls: Oblivion, Lost Planet, Gears of War, etc? I dont care what kind of game you're making you better polish the very begining that's all there is to it. how many movies have you stuck with through the entire thing even though you knew it blew while watching it on TV? Did you stick around and watch to the final conclusion? or do you do what ev1 I know does- change the channel as soon as you determine it sucks.
    Fine,that is your view on the subject, your don't want to give the game a full chance. but then you will have to accept the fact that you don't know the full game, because anything beyond the point of where you quit is speculation for you.



    and yes, I do stick to a movie that is bad at first and watch the whole thing, and more then once have I been glad I watched the whole thing.
  • outthislifeoutthislife Member Posts: 115
    Originally posted by Tyrranosaur


    Hate to say it, but if a game can't wow its audience (pun intended) in the first five or ten minutes of play.....it's got problems.
    Right. EVE has awesome end-game, but a terrible start.



    You fail.
  • horizon_holdhorizon_hold Member Posts: 16
    I'm still waiting for CM to make a  free trial to decide if I buy Archlord or not.



    I fail to agree with some of you, a game MUST wow you in the beginning, not all people like to play 10+ hours hoping that the game gets better.



    This is always the case with console games, if it starts good, it may keep on being good, if it starts bad, it may continue being bad.



    Most MMORPGs start with you spawning in the middle of a town and at least I ALWAYS think: now WTF am I supposed to do?



    EVE online start isn't anywhere near bad, it starts with some good tutorials that showcase you with the potential of the game, if you just appeared in some random place without any info then that would have been bad.



    Granado Espada is a MMORPG that managed to flash me from the beggining, you start with a tutorial explaining some of the features of the game and then you are like always spawned in the middle of the town, but you already know the UI and the basics so you can keep moving on and you know that it will get better.



    As for Archlord, as I said I will wait for CM to release a new trial to rate the game myself, the I will decide to buy it or not; since I can't form an opinion from a game from others opinions, I think 9 Dragons suck badly but you can easily find a whole lot of lovers of that game.
  • Synyster777Synyster777 Member Posts: 301
    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by calubob

    I played this game for about 15 minutes... I then realized how amazingly bad this game is. First impressions are everything if the first couple minutes are bad enough to the point I go into a coma from boredom why would I even bother spending my valuable time just see if it is better later on? Fact is I won't and most people won't.



    That's why there is no community they are pissed because they wasted their money on the diabolical piece of gaming that is Archlord.
    Could you please tell me what the PVP encounters are like? I'd like to know what the guild fights look like. While your at it, could you also please tell me in detail of the things that happen in the Battlesquare? And If you could also inform me of the higher level boss encounters, that would be great. Oh, to correct you, there is a community, and its alive and kicking.we need to remember that this is a game, the point of a game is to have fun, if we have to go through a tedious grind to get to these so called good points in the game then it's just not worth playing.... I could easily drive myself down the beach and have 10X more fun and not have to grind to get to the beach..... You are right, these people shouldn't judge certain parts of the game unless they have played it, but they still have a point and so do I

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  • Kasp3rKasp3r Member Posts: 67

    This is how i think it goes.

    if your like me and need to pass the time til another mmo comes out (age of conan for me :D), then Archlord is the game.

    In no way is it as bad as people are sayin it it, the pvp is very enjoyable and the community is fun and very active. The game is also F2P and tbh, it is the best F2P game out there at the moment.

    also, when Episode 2 comes out, its gonna be very exciting.

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