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Mrbloodworth
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So, i had a diplomacy issue.
I went to silky venom.... Other than it not being able to load correctly (They have since switched hosting)... There was a thread on the subject.
I look at it, it didn’t have a resolution.
Went to Ten-ton-hammer. There’s a thread.... No resolution, no dev post.
Went to 4 other sites.... Each had a thread on this issue. No resolution, no dev post... Save for the most under populated site.
It had a thread, and a dev post.
Isn’t this great? I wasted an hour looking for a development post about a largely common issue, only to find ONE (1) dev post on the subject.... on the least visited site of the 20 they have listed.
What was that resolution you ask? "Keep an eye on the affiliate sites for the resolution to this problem". 
"Sweet, witch one?" 
Opinion:
I just want to say, if they are not going to provide the same services as other mmo's, then they need to lower my subscription by 2$.
Shirking off the responsibility of maintaining of community forums is sad. “Because we don’t want to deal with it” is a lame excuse.
Having to search 20 fan sites of debatable quality is frustrating, not to mention they all have speculative information, and some times contradict.
Trying to pass this off as an “Easer more reliable solution” is just completely unsupportive of your customer base, your wasting our time, because it is not.
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
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How are you?" -Me
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Didn't you know that having to search through 20 different, often contradictory fansites is a much more hardcore, next-gen way of doing things? You wouldn't want to be spoonfed the information by getting it from the official site now, would you? That would just be too easy, and would ruin your gamer cred.
Just wait until they start posting by specialization, like some people hope. Not only will you have to patrol 20 different fansites for common issues, but you'd also have to go to fansites and message boards for each of the different races and professions in order to find out that you should watch the fansites for any developments.
http://mentaltruancy.guildportal.com - Friendly Vanguard:Saga of Heroes Qalia based Guild.
Instead, he had to go through 20 different sites looking for answers, only to find out that there wasn't one and that he should watch the fansites for information. How is that even remotely helpful?
He wasn't complaining about a fix or lack thereof. He was merely frustrated that the customer is treated like a red headed step child in terms of support because Sigil is to cheap/lazy to host a forum and pay someone to moderate.
Jeez, Jesus.
The posting would have been in one place for one...on one site, the official one. I would not have had to hunt 10 different sites.
Also, any know workarounds by players would have all be contained in one, central place. Not 10 sites.
What don’t you get about this?
We all pay around 15$ for these games, we all expect the same level of support for the product and services we buy, why can vanguard charge the same, yet not supply this level of support for a subscription based services, while placing that role in the hands of its players..., and STILL charging the same amount. It not really about the money for me, its about the FRUSTRATION OF HAVING TO LOOK AT 20 SITES FOR ONE THING, when it could have been so simple to just look in one place.
As for “They are all a bunch of wine-fests” = “You reap what you sow” Cultivate a helpful community, and you will have one. Cultivate a wine session, and you will have one.
This is not the fans responsibility, we are the customers. It’s the publisher’s responsibility to ensure that your customers have the same level, if not better, support for your product as others on the market.
All while Frustrating the player base.
I guess you like wasting your time looking at 20 sites? Is that why each and every thread about this topic you post in support of a "Decentralized community"?
You know, that a "Decentralized community" has been used in the past?
By an oppressive leadership/goverments.
"Keep them stupid, keep them apart, keep them uninformed, and you’ll have less chance of an uprising when you do something wrong".
This is the same mentality.
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
And that is regardless of the question which was related to diplomacy that not everyone does,etc,etc,etc.
No, come to find out that the line of diplomacy parlays are simply bugged, and impassable, And require a patch due to imbalances.
Point is, i had to search 20 sits to find this out. And i did ask in game, everyone attempted 1000000's of different ways to bet them. But the root issues was that it was a mathematical impossibility at that stage in your diplomats career. IE: 1 in 200 chance of wining a noobish quest.
I had already exhausted all in game help of other players.
After asking a few time in the /dip chat, and getting the response of "I’m stuck there also" i went to the web.
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
And that is regardless of the question which was related to diplomacy that not everyone does,etc,etc,etc.
Your opinion is a bit childish. People who need answers ask them in a civilized manner of their guild or the people around them, not "nubcakes" as you so eloquently stated it. And also, a lot more people do diplomacy than you obviously think.
If your having problems with Vanguard... go here:
http://forums.station.sony.com/station/forums/show.m?forum_id=174
And I know people have posted issues with ingame stuff there.
So it should help with any future problems.
Thanks thoe.
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
And that is regardless of the question which was related to diplomacy that not everyone does,etc,etc,etc. yes i did, a noobcake would have just complaned
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
I agree with the OP, however...its not going to change (at least, not any time soon) so might as well make the best of it.
(besides you can always flood them with petitions)
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Sad thing is, we have no centrial place to speak out.
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
He wasn't complaining about a fix or lack thereof. He was merely frustrated that the customer is treated like a red headed step child in terms of support because Sigil is to cheap/lazy to host a forum and pay someone to moderate.
Jeez, Jesus.
Why not just google it?
http://mentaltruancy.guildportal.com - Friendly Vanguard:Saga of Heroes Qalia based Guild.
And that is regardless of the question which was related to diplomacy that not everyone does,etc,etc,etc.
lol, give me a break. That kind of response is pretty typical when you lose. At least pretend you have a brain.
No, come to find out that the line of diplomacy parlays are simply bugged, and impassable, And require a patch due to imbalances.
Point is, i had to search 20 sits to find this out. And i did ask in game, everyone attempted 1000000's of different ways to bet them. But the root issues was that it was a mathematical impossibility at that stage in your diplomats career. IE: 1 in 200 chance of wining a noobish quest.
I had already exhausted all in game help of other players.
After asking a few time in the /dip chat, and getting the response of "I’m stuck there also" i went to the web.
Pretty sure you're fabricating and/or exaggerating at least part of your OP and this. You make it sound way worse than it is. Fact of the matter is, it's not really difficult at all to get an answer. lol, I'm done replying to your posts after this, because it's pretty apparent that you want to hate this game.
The more I read these Vanbois.. the more I really hate a game.. that I have never played...
Honestly you guys are worse then WoW fanbois... and that is a tough act to follow... I was looking for a new MMO to play .. and thought maybe this would be it.. but after seeing the horrid fanbase.. I have decieded to pass and keep looking... really you guys are not doing this game you claim to love .. any service at all...
The OP has a legitimate concern... why doesn't Vanguard have an official forum??
No, come to find out that the line of diplomacy parlays are simply bugged, and impassable, And require a patch due to imbalances.
Point is, i had to search 20 sits to find this out. And i did ask in game, everyone attempted 1000000's of different ways to bet them. But the root issues was that it was a mathematical impossibility at that stage in your diplomats career. IE: 1 in 200 chance of wining a noobish quest.
I had already exhausted all in game help of other players.
After asking a few time in the /dip chat, and getting the response of "I’m stuck there also" i went to the web.
once againPretty sure you're fabricating and/or exaggerating at least part of your OP and this. You make it sound way worse than it is. Fact of the matter is, it's not really difficult at all to get an answer. lol, I'm done replying to your posts after this, because it's pretty apparent that you want to hate this game.
Funny, I haven’t been "Bashing" this game. I only see people with dislikes, complaints or issues with aspects of the game.
So, i guess that if you don’t happen to like 1 thing about vanguard, and post about it in the hopes that it may get changed, then your a basher.
Nice.
This type of post was so 3 weeks ago. Please remove it, its clogging up other relevant postings.
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
yea next thing you know people that hate the game will be congregating on the forums of that game, now that would be annoying wouldn't it. and telling.
And to the OP, I'm with you all the way, not having official forums is not a good thing.
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