I don't hate WoW, I was just never able to get into it. I did give it a good shot, I think I have had about 4 different character get to 40, but never past 50. I do on the other hand hate WoW fanbois......well just about any fanboi....except mabey BattleStar Gallactica fan bois.....or Zelda fanbois......the rest suck though.
An extraordinarily immature community. For the first year the community was actually pretty good on Cenarion Circle, but in the 3 or 4 months before I quit I could barely go two nights without getting /spit on, accused of doing stuff I didn't do, or receiving vulgar /whispers completely out of the blue from people of my own faction (Alliance). All from lower-level players I never seen before, never would see again, and had never interacted with in the slighest way. I played Horde on the new Blackwater Raiders server for a little while in hopes it would be better, but it wasn't.
And then finally the gamebreaker was the single worse experience of customer service I have ever experienced in an MMORPG. It made the GMs in EQ look positively enlightened and I played that for 3 years. Butthead players I can tolerate, but I'm not paying Blizzard to get shat on by its CSRs. I uninstalled the same night with over 2 weeks left on my paid month.
The game itself is actually quite fun. I enjoyed the gameplay, the rare RP, the occasional world PvP, the battlegrounds, the mechanics, the interface, the storyline, the environments, and the classes. I enjoyed it enough to level a couple characters to 60 and a handful more into the 30s and 40s. But bottomline is I'm not going to pay cash to get railed by CSRs and be verbally harassed by every third moron that randomly crosses my path when I'm running down the road in Duskwood or the Barrens.
--- I ask for so little. Just fear me, love me, do as I say and I will be your slave.
I think it is because many dedicated MMORPG fans all tried WoW only to find that most of the people playing WoW had no MMORPG experience and were first timers
There are two main reasons I no longer play: An extraordinarily immature community. For the first year the community was actually pretty good on Cenarion Circle, but in the 3 or 4 months before I quit I could barely go two nights without getting /spit on, accused of doing stuff I didn't do, or receiving vulgar /whispers completely out of the blue from people of my own faction (Alliance). All from lower-level players I never seen before, never would see again, and had never interacted with in the slighest way. I played Horde on the new Blackwater Raiders server for a little while in hopes it would be better, but it wasn't. And then finally the gamebreaker was the single worse experience of customer service I have ever experienced in an MMORPG. It made the GMs in EQ look positively enlightened and I played that for 3 years. Butthead players I can tolerate, but I'm not paying Blizzard to get shat on by its CSRs. I uninstalled the same night with over 2 weeks left on my paid month. The game itself is actually quite fun. I enjoyed the gameplay, the rare RP, the occasional world PvP, the battlegrounds, the mechanics, the interface, the storyline, the environments, and the classes. I enjoyed it enough to level a couple characters to 60 and a handful more into the 30s and 40s. But bottomline is I'm not going to pay cash to get railed by CSRs and be verbally harassed by every third moron that randomly crosses my path when I'm running down the road in Duskwood or the Barrens.
Although I am currently playing, I don't see myself playing too much longer. I like the game and I like the things you mentioned as well. But I agree that, of all the mmos I have played over the years, this one has by far the WORST player community I have ever seen. I have never seen such foul mouthed, abusive people in all my years of gaming, hell, I never even saw this kind of behavior working in bars and you get some of the worst dregs of humanity there when they get drunk. EQ, EQII, SWG< AO, AC, DAoC, (recently) DDO, LOTRO (beta), GW and a few others so I have seen quite a smattering of player types.
Let me preface my statements by saying that I am not what you would call a "Mr. Nice Guy" but I do try to be pleasant and approachable in game. Conversely, I expect similar treatment from people I group with, guild with etc. You don't have to like me and that's ok, not everyone meshes. But at least acknowledge that there is a human being with feelings that thoughts on the other side of the keyboard huh?
Here's a great example of why I'm about done. In Blade's Edge Mts doing some quest to plant a tree in 3 dirt piles. I see another horde player named Gunjobi and his partner killing the same elementals I am. They have not said anything to me and it appears to me that they are farming them, as a lot of players do that. I move a little so I am not in their way, keep going, kill the last mob that gives me a clear path to it and plant my tree.
At this point, I am immediately /spit on, given the /rude gesture and called an ass by this guy. Apparently, I am the guilty party for not practicing mind reading and figuring out that he and his partner were actually doing this same quest. They never said anything in /say and never sent me a /tell but I'm the bad guy for making him wait an extra 30 seconds? I see two people killing stuff at, what appears to me, to be random spots and they don't say jack to me but immediately jump my shit for having the temerity to complete part of the quest they are on. Umm, wtf? What happened to telling me that's what they are after if they can take the time to do the emotes and abusive language? I guess abusing people is easier than being nice. /shrug
I could have asked them, yes. But it goes both ways. Instead of politely telling me "hey bud, we were working on that" to which my reply would have been "oh crap, I am really sorry, I thought you two were just farming. I'll wait til yer done", they opt to go the other way and be complete dicks about it. And I have seen this on both sides. Ally and Horde just jump all over each other, call names, get obnoxious, grief, gank, kill swipe, attempt to screw quests up for others and act like fools. I don't see much helping going on as a rule. And they do this to their own faction to boot, that's crazy. I go to Org or another city, I see ppl going off on each other globally for asking questions or asking for help. I see ppl being called "stupid", "retard", n00b" in all its variations and a host of other things for stating an opinion, asking for help, asking about an item or a quest, etc. You join guilds and either are expected to farm crap for lowbies who are too lazy to earn it on their own, deal with elitist ppl who expect you to raid incessantly or risk getting booted or ignore you completely because you aren't "leet" and don't fit in to their little cliques in the guild. Which means you end up alone agaion hoping your next random group will be better than the previous one.
These are all gross generalizations to be sure, as there are some really great people in the game. It's just unfortunate that these rare gems are buried within the dirt piles of people who think they are better than everyone else due to pixels on a screen.
It is misguided hate. They think they hate WoW when in reality they hate themselves. They can't believe that they hate a game that nearly 10 million people gladly pay for, yet they pay for trash games that are lucky to have 100k subscribers. They can't stand the fact that their game caters to a specific crowd, yet WoW caters to all crowds.
The secret to WoW isn't that they do anything great, because they really don't. Blizzard just doesn't do anything bad with their game. If anything, they believe in polish and it shows. Turbine and Sigil both need to learn a lesson from Blizzard. Don't release a BETA and expect your fans to pay for your R&D. It will hurt you in ways you won't ever be able to recover.
Remember, you never get a second chance to make a first impression.
Don't hate Blizzard for being good. Hate your favorite game company for not taking the time to get it right. Hate yourself for sticking around a game that will end up being just another SWG with 40k subscribers and empty servers just because your game had potential.
Just ask yourself when is last time a game that was still in beta released a list of "post launch features" they promised to add later and how many of those features actually came to light.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
I think that there isn't a game out there that is PERFECTLY PERFECT! Every game you play whether it be WoW, CoH/CoV, or any other MMORPG out there, will have people complaining about it for one reason, no one is the exact same as the other! I may believe that the best part of a game is the meeting new people from all around the world, while another person believes it's all about the action. You can make a great game and all, but it will take at least a couple decades of people's comments to make a game that at least 95% of the people think is awesome, and couldn't be made any better! I know that they have to make a good amount of money to keep WoW running, but come on, $20 to buy WoW from the store, then $15 dollars a month to play it after the first free month, then if you want to be a really good gamer for WoW you have to by WoW:BC which costs $50. That's $85 assured dollars from every player who plays WoW, which is about, what?, 2 million at least which comes out to be at least $170,000,000 asured dollars a month. That's a lot of money to be carrying around. I do believe they could make the monthly price a little bit lower, but that's just me! If you only learn one thing from this, it should be this! No game is PERFECT, and there will always be someone who doesn't agree, like, or enjoy the game, no matter what game it is!
Here is my view on the game!
I think that this game has great graphics, and great gameplay! They should make up some things fun to do after you reach the high levels! The monthly price could be lower, but hey I'm fine with it! They could add a couple of new Classes, like they've added new Races! This game caters to different likes for different people! If you don't like magic, you really don't have to use it, get a Warrior! If you don't like past like weapons, they have guns for use! You you don't like playing a Human character, they have 9 other races to choose from! If you don't like being on the good side of the law, you can choose the Horde(no disrespect to anyone who plays the Horde characters). This is a great game, and can be addictive to some people. I probably won't have to worry abou that because I plan on being a Game Developer! I recently saw this kind of commercial thing on YouTube.com, it had this couple and the man always asked for sex everyday of every week. Then the woman bought him WoW and after a couple of days she asked if he wanted to have sex and he said "No, I'm trying to take down this group of Orcs!" These are just some of my views on the WoW!
Everyone dosnt hate this game, only the haters and people that envy sucess hate wow, the rest of the 8 million players love it.
The way of the world really, people always envy, and are jealous of sucess, either because they cant do it themsleves or that the persons sucess reflects badly on their own game.
You want my two cents, well, here it is! I think that there isn't a game out there that is PERFECTLY PERFECT! Every game you play whether it be WoW, CoH/CoV, or any other MMORPG out there, will have people complaining about it for one reason, no one is the exact same as the other! I may believe that the best part of a game is the meeting new people from all around the world, while another person believes it's all about the action. You can make a great game and all, but it will take at least a couple decades of people's comments to make a game that at least 95% of the people think is awesome, and couldn't be made any better! I know that they have to make a good amount of money to keep WoW running, but come on, $20 to buy WoW from the store, then $15 dollars a month to play it after the first free month, then if you want to be a really good gamer for WoW you have to by WoW:BC which costs $50. That's $85 assured dollars from every player who plays WoW, which is about, what?, 2 million at least which comes out to be at least $170,000,000 asured dollars a month. That's a lot of money to be carrying around. I do believe they could make the monthly price a little bit lower, but that's just me! If you only learn one thing from this, it should be this! No game is PERFECT, and there will always be someone who doesn't agree, like, or enjoy the game, no matter what game it is! Here is my view on the game! I think that this game has great graphics, and great gameplay! They should make up some things fun to do after you reach the high levels! The monthly price could be lower, but hey I'm fine with it! They could add a couple of new Classes, like they've added new Races! This game caters to different likes for different people! If you don't like magic, you really don't have to use it, get a Warrior! If you don't like past like weapons, they have guns for use! You you don't like playing a Human character, they have 9 other races to choose from! If you don't like being on the good side of the law, you can choose the Horde(no disrespect to anyone who plays the Horder characters).These are just some of my views on the WoW! Thank you for taking the time to read this!
lol I'm not even going to care about giving a serious reply to this since I bet that 90% of the people who are saying "no WoW is inovating, WoW is good, period, etc" will just show up 3 months later saying "bah I got bored of WoW and then I quit" =(
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WoW makes you grind for items and makes the game slow so they get more per month. If you could see how 2d it is you would quit before you even started, but still people love giving up 15$ a month and more for BC cause they are entertained by graphics and hours of boring grinding...
Now more games are like these, i hate the everquest type people... go play with matchbox cars if you like shiny things that never really get you anywhere. This game is great for women and retards.
Everyone dosnt hate this game, only the haters and people that envy sucess hate wow, the rest of the 8 million players love it. The way of the world really, people always envy, and are jealous of sucess, either because they cant do it themsleves or that the persons sucess reflects badly on their own game.
Don't know what world you are refering to... but in my world no-one is "jealous" of a game That just sounds ... crazy.
If you look carefully you'll know where the critique towards WoW comes from. And if you listen carefully you'll know WHY.
WoW is overhyped, truly and absolutely. It's good, I can't deny that. It works fine. But it's nothing special, NOTHING special! It's a simplified version of EverQuest. I think people who doesn't play WoW can understand why there's so much hype about something which really is just so basic. I think theese people are more ANNOYED than JEALOUS. I only think WoW players say that because they are sick and tired of hearing critique. But my advicve then is to stay off the forums. Because truth-wise, WoW deserves alot of critique. Not only for it's success.
However you flip and turn WoW is a "phenomena" that many want to be a part of. Even though you don't like/play it you still want to explore to see what keeps people going.
$OE lies list http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0 " And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
Uggg not everybody Hates WoW like barely anybody does... The game is a overhyped, piece of crap game. Dull game, quests are lame, fighting is not impressive at all, graphics are OK but not excellent. On my opinion I don't see how anybody finds this game f un... Its one of the worst MMORPG'S i'v ever played. The only game its better then that i'v played is Runescape. SWG is really fun, knight online world is also funner then this game, so it LOTRO... My opinion.
My biggest gripe with WoW is that PvP is almost an afterthought.....but then again was used to DAOC so i guess i was spoilt.....its not a bad game......just losing that WoW factor
carry on thinking its dribble, Fact is its true, now get back to wow, oh sorry your still playing it,
Ok.... let me set a few things cause you are proving the kind of LEET I cant stand....
1) Personally I did play WoW... want to know how long? 1 week.. thats right... the trail couldnt even keep me amused for it's full time.
2) What I saw was a descently made game, but one that had nothing to grab me.
3) Like ALL games, it will fall one day, and then I believe it will be you who is crying.
4) WAR hasnt even come out and already has an ENTIRE table-top fanbase backing it. I really dont see it dying like you want to imagine. (Even as I will admit I would MUCH rather it be Warhammer 40K over Warhammer, but Ill take what I can get.)
and 5) Before you go after EVERYONE else with the kind of rabidness only a fanboy can produce, take a prozac, breath, and realize even you too will move on from this game one day.
Thank you, and goodnight,
Signed, one VERY PISSED OFF AT LEETIST/FANBOY people online individual.
All games are expnaded, obviously after some time things get old, so more content is added, if half the other games were any good, they would actaully have 8+ million subscribers, fact is these other games fail and look for a scape goat, and then people constantly start threads like this, just amazes me, @hmmm im bored lest see, yes let me start a thread on how to bash wow".
EQ1/2 got like 8 million plus Expansions, maybe ive missed another million expansion out will check later. EQ2 server populations are low at best. Vanguard went for uber imba wtfmyeyezesparleinthenight graphics, result totaly crap. Archlord went for the " LETS TRY PVP ROUTE" , result faliure.
In conclusion games that promise you all months or years in advance, fail to deliver, hence u start pointless crap threads like this, Get back to havuing tea parties morons.
SOE blows.... hands down... anyone who can literally kill half the subscriptions of a game by the RUMOR that they are buying it (and they did it.. Matrix Online), not ACTUAL, just the RUMOR, obviously suck....
Originally posted by mmcguire2 If your looking for a challenge, try something else.
I wil be sure to remeber that while u play the ever so challenging game that is Vanguard,lol. Wow is not easy, that is the thing that most of you people without a single brain cell fail to realise. The game is very well designed, therefore it leads to very good gameplay which leads to ease of use and playablitly. This is the fact alot of people dont understand and fail to realise. Simple fact is why alot of other games fail, crap design poor layout poor game architecture, BUT EXCELLENT GRAPHICS etc etc etc, which leads to crap games.
Wow is not easy, it is extremely well designed, hence it leads user to able to pick the game up fast and is easy to play. This does not equate to the game is easy. If your 2 brain cell mind cannot grasp this fact, then you should stick with vanguard.
Clearly you havent seen the issues Vangaurd has even starting up for a number of people... how much harder do you want a game to be? I mean, you have to work to even boot up!!!!
Ok, Im joking around, but I couldnt resist messing with this guy again.
I've got my eyes set on an MMORPG where the moment some idiot whines at me I can kill him on the spot and steal his loot.
Darkfall Online will put WoW to shame...(though Granado Espada has already done so a hundred times over).
Lol you people keep saying this game will do that and that game will do this. When all these so called games that are going to put wow to shame come out, what do they actually do?? They fail to be the wow killer that you keep predicting.
Darkfall been in prduction how long now? ever going to be released? You say Granadoa espando already has put wow to shame hundred times over. where has it put it to shame?? has it been relased? any subscribers yet?
Where do you even get your facts from that any of the above games has or are gouing to put wow to shame? Vnaguard forums were full of this ignorant rubbish for months, when relased nothing but pure flaming there about it.
Thats the point with you Wow haters, you make ssumptions without knowing any facts, please keep jumping from game to game!!.
If you're playing a game you dont like, and dont jump from it, I'd call that far more idiotic.
And I think its not WoW most of them hate... but the guy that just made a REAL jump in logic.
Never played it but it is way too cartoon for me looks like some thing kids play no thanks.
Plue i know two mates that play it and they did not really like it grind like a monky to get nowhere
lets play a really game thats not for kids
Lol this has to be the most idiotic reply to a "why i hate wow " thread ever. Lets all go play a game with so called next gen graphics, but we forgot to design the rest of the game. Oh wait tryed that , result failed. Cartoon graphics? M8 these are 3d models not meant to look like a real person its meant to be fantasy graphics. Only reason does not look photo realistic like some mmorpg is they use and have crated textures to give a totally different feel their models and 3d environments. D&D online has phot0 realistic water, and yet the game is very poorly designed. This is something that you eleitist so called hardcore gamers have yet to comprehend. Graphics do not make games. Wow has some of the most nicely modeled, animated models in an mmorpg. Character walk cycles are excellently done, along with body animation and rigging.
Classic expample of this is sould calibur 2 on the Dreamcast. Imo best fighting game ever made, stands up to any soul calibur on the ps2, xbox/2. Why?, simple it has nice grapahics, but the player movement and desgin is great. Somethig that later soul calibur games failed to recreate. Another reason why these so called wow killing games are failing or will fail.
Simply saying omg this game has SO CALLED cartoony graphics, thats why you wont play it, and look at me im soo cool for not playing wow, is just crazy.
Actually, it makes someone cooler to mess with someone who's whole life seems dedicated to a video game....
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There are two main reasons I no longer play:
An extraordinarily immature community. For the first year the community was actually pretty good on Cenarion Circle, but in the 3 or 4 months before I quit I could barely go two nights without getting /spit on, accused of doing stuff I didn't do, or receiving vulgar /whispers completely out of the blue from people of my own faction (Alliance). All from lower-level players I never seen before, never would see again, and had never interacted with in the slighest way. I played Horde on the new Blackwater Raiders server for a little while in hopes it would be better, but it wasn't.
And then finally the gamebreaker was the single worse experience of customer service I have ever experienced in an MMORPG. It made the GMs in EQ look positively enlightened and I played that for 3 years. Butthead players I can tolerate, but I'm not paying Blizzard to get shat on by its CSRs. I uninstalled the same night with over 2 weeks left on my paid month.
The game itself is actually quite fun. I enjoyed the gameplay, the rare RP, the occasional world PvP, the battlegrounds, the mechanics, the interface, the storyline, the environments, and the classes. I enjoyed it enough to level a couple characters to 60 and a handful more into the 30s and 40s. But bottomline is I'm not going to pay cash to get railed by CSRs and be verbally harassed by every third moron that randomly crosses my path when I'm running down the road in Duskwood or the Barrens.
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I ask for so little. Just fear me, love me, do as I say and I will be your slave.
Let me preface my statements by saying that I am not what you would call a "Mr. Nice Guy" but I do try to be pleasant and approachable in game. Conversely, I expect similar treatment from people I group with, guild with etc. You don't have to like me and that's ok, not everyone meshes. But at least acknowledge that there is a human being with feelings that thoughts on the other side of the keyboard huh?
Here's a great example of why I'm about done. In Blade's Edge Mts doing some quest to plant a tree in 3 dirt piles. I see another horde player named Gunjobi and his partner killing the same elementals I am. They have not said anything to me and it appears to me that they are farming them, as a lot of players do that. I move a little so I am not in their way, keep going, kill the last mob that gives me a clear path to it and plant my tree.
At this point, I am immediately /spit on, given the /rude gesture and called an ass by this guy. Apparently, I am the guilty party for not practicing mind reading and figuring out that he and his partner were actually doing this same quest. They never said anything in /say and never sent me a /tell but I'm the bad guy for making him wait an extra 30 seconds? I see two people killing stuff at, what appears to me, to be random spots and they don't say jack to me but immediately jump my shit for having the temerity to complete part of the quest they are on. Umm, wtf? What happened to telling me that's what they are after if they can take the time to do the emotes and abusive language? I guess abusing people is easier than being nice. /shrug
I could have asked them, yes. But it goes both ways. Instead of politely telling me "hey bud, we were working on that" to which my reply would have been "oh crap, I am really sorry, I thought you two were just farming. I'll wait til yer done", they opt to go the other way and be complete dicks about it. And I have seen this on both sides. Ally and Horde just jump all over each other, call names, get obnoxious, grief, gank, kill swipe, attempt to screw quests up for others and act like fools. I don't see much helping going on as a rule. And they do this to their own faction to boot, that's crazy. I go to Org or another city, I see ppl going off on each other globally for asking questions or asking for help. I see ppl being called "stupid", "retard", n00b" in all its variations and a host of other things for stating an opinion, asking for help, asking about an item or a quest, etc. You join guilds and either are expected to farm crap for lowbies who are too lazy to earn it on their own, deal with elitist ppl who expect you to raid incessantly or risk getting booted or ignore you completely because you aren't "leet" and don't fit in to their little cliques in the guild. Which means you end up alone agaion hoping your next random group will be better than the previous one.
These are all gross generalizations to be sure, as there are some really great people in the game. It's just unfortunate that these rare gems are buried within the dirt piles of people who think they are better than everyone else due to pixels on a screen.
It is misguided hate. They think they hate WoW when in reality they hate themselves. They can't believe that they hate a game that nearly 10 million people gladly pay for, yet they pay for trash games that are lucky to have 100k subscribers. They can't stand the fact that their game caters to a specific crowd, yet WoW caters to all crowds.
The secret to WoW isn't that they do anything great, because they really don't. Blizzard just doesn't do anything bad with their game. If anything, they believe in polish and it shows. Turbine and Sigil both need to learn a lesson from Blizzard. Don't release a BETA and expect your fans to pay for your R&D. It will hurt you in ways you won't ever be able to recover.
Remember, you never get a second chance to make a first impression.
Don't hate Blizzard for being good. Hate your favorite game company for not taking the time to get it right. Hate yourself for sticking around a game that will end up being just another SWG with 40k subscribers and empty servers just because your game had potential.
Just ask yourself when is last time a game that was still in beta released a list of "post launch features" they promised to add later and how many of those features actually came to light.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
You want my two cents, well, here it is!
I think that there isn't a game out there that is PERFECTLY PERFECT! Every game you play whether it be WoW, CoH/CoV, or any other MMORPG out there, will have people complaining about it for one reason, no one is the exact same as the other! I may believe that the best part of a game is the meeting new people from all around the world, while another person believes it's all about the action. You can make a great game and all, but it will take at least a couple decades of people's comments to make a game that at least 95% of the people think is awesome, and couldn't be made any better! I know that they have to make a good amount of money to keep WoW running, but come on, $20 to buy WoW from the store, then $15 dollars a month to play it after the first free month, then if you want to be a really good gamer for WoW you have to by WoW:BC which costs $50. That's $85 assured dollars from every player who plays WoW, which is about, what?, 2 million at least which comes out to be at least $170,000,000 asured dollars a month. That's a lot of money to be carrying around. I do believe they could make the monthly price a little bit lower, but that's just me! If you only learn one thing from this, it should be this! No game is PERFECT, and there will always be someone who doesn't agree, like, or enjoy the game, no matter what game it is!
Here is my view on the game!
I think that this game has great graphics, and great gameplay! They should make up some things fun to do after you reach the high levels! The monthly price could be lower, but hey I'm fine with it! They could add a couple of new Classes, like they've added new Races! This game caters to different likes for different people! If you don't like magic, you really don't have to use it, get a Warrior! If you don't like past like weapons, they have guns for use! You you don't like playing a Human character, they have 9 other races to choose from! If you don't like being on the good side of the law, you can choose the Horde(no disrespect to anyone who plays the Horde characters). This is a great game, and can be addictive to some people. I probably won't have to worry abou that because I plan on being a Game Developer! I recently saw this kind of commercial thing on YouTube.com, it had this couple and the man always asked for sex everyday of every week. Then the woman bought him WoW and after a couple of days she asked if he wanted to have sex and he said "No, I'm trying to take down this group of Orcs!" These are just some of my views on the WoW!
Thank you for taking the time to read this!
Everyone dosnt hate this game, only the haters and people that envy sucess hate wow, the rest of the 8 million players love it.
The way of the world really, people always envy, and are jealous of sucess, either because they cant do it themsleves or that the persons sucess reflects badly on their own game.
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Darkfall: December or vaporware!
I agree with you. They should make it cheaper.
lol I'm not even going to care about giving a serious reply to this since I bet that 90% of the people who are saying "no WoW is inovating, WoW is good, period, etc" will just show up 3 months later saying "bah I got bored of WoW and then I quit" =(
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Final Fantasy XI 04~06
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WoW makes you grind for items and makes the game slow so they get more per month. If you could see how 2d it is you would quit before you even started, but still people love giving up 15$ a month and more for BC cause they are entertained by graphics and hours of boring grinding...
Now more games are like these, i hate the everquest type people... go play with matchbox cars if you like shiny things that never really get you anywhere. This game is great for women and retards.
If someone is entertained, the focus of their entertainment cannot be boring to them. You're contradicting yourself, unless I'm missing something.
Nothing troll-like about that line. I assume you either have not made it past grade 3 or are writing this from prison somewhere.
Don't know what world you are refering to... but in my world no-one is "jealous" of a game
That just sounds ... crazy.
If you look carefully you'll know where the critique towards WoW comes from. And if you listen carefully you'll know WHY.
WoW is overhyped, truly and absolutely. It's good, I can't deny that. It works fine. But it's nothing special, NOTHING special! It's a simplified version of EverQuest. I think people who doesn't play WoW can understand why there's so much hype about something which really is just so basic. I think theese people are more ANNOYED than JEALOUS. I only think WoW players say that because they are sick and tired of hearing critique. But my advicve then is to stay off the forums. Because truth-wise, WoW deserves alot of critique. Not only for it's success.
However you flip and turn WoW is a "phenomena" that many want to be a part of. Even though you don't like/play it you still want to explore to see what keeps people going.
$OE lies list
http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0
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And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
All the people that don't play wow, hate it.
My biggest gripe with WoW is that PvP is almost an afterthought.....but then again was used to DAOC so i guess i was spoilt.....its not a bad game......just losing that WoW factor
cheers
1) Personally I did play WoW... want to know how long? 1 week.. thats right... the trail couldnt even keep me amused for it's full time.
2) What I saw was a descently made game, but one that had nothing to grab me.
3) Like ALL games, it will fall one day, and then I believe it will be you who is crying.
4) WAR hasnt even come out and already has an ENTIRE table-top fanbase backing it. I really dont see it dying like you want to imagine. (Even as I will admit I would MUCH rather it be Warhammer 40K over Warhammer, but Ill take what I can get.)
and 5) Before you go after EVERYONE else with the kind of rabidness only a fanboy can produce, take a prozac, breath, and realize even you too will move on from this game one day.
Thank you, and goodnight,
Signed, one VERY PISSED OFF AT LEETIST/FANBOY people online individual.
but so do fanboys, so... yeah *smiles*
I wil be sure to remeber that while u play the ever so challenging game that is Vanguard,lol. Wow is not easy, that is the thing that most of you people without a single brain cell fail to realise. The game is very well designed, therefore it leads to very good gameplay which leads to ease of use and playablitly. This is the fact alot of people dont understand and fail to realise. Simple fact is why alot of other games fail, crap design poor layout poor game architecture, BUT EXCELLENT GRAPHICS etc etc etc, which leads to crap games.
Wow is not easy, it is extremely well designed, hence it leads user to able to pick the game up fast and is easy to play. This does not equate to the game is easy. If your 2 brain cell mind cannot grasp this fact, then you should stick with vanguard.
Ok, Im joking around, but I couldnt resist messing with this guy again.
What I hate about WoW?
Too many immature little l33t kids playing it thats why I left.
Lol you people keep saying this game will do that and that game will do this. When all these so called games that are going to put wow to shame come out, what do they actually do?? They fail to be the wow killer that you keep predicting.
Darkfall been in prduction how long now? ever going to be released? You say Granadoa espando already has put wow to shame hundred times over. where has it put it to shame?? has it been relased? any subscribers yet?
Where do you even get your facts from that any of the above games has or are gouing to put wow to shame? Vnaguard forums were full of this ignorant rubbish for months, when relased nothing but pure flaming there about it.
Thats the point with you Wow haters, you make ssumptions without knowing any facts, please keep jumping from game to game!!.
If you're playing a game you dont like, and dont jump from it, I'd call that far more idiotic.And I think its not WoW most of them hate... but the guy that just made a REAL jump in logic.
Lol this has to be the most idiotic reply to a "why i hate wow " thread ever. Lets all go play a game with so called next gen graphics, but we forgot to design the rest of the game. Oh wait tryed that , result failed. Cartoon graphics? M8 these are 3d models not meant to look like a real person its meant to be fantasy graphics. Only reason does not look photo realistic like some mmorpg is they use and have crated textures to give a totally different feel their models and 3d environments. D&D online has phot0 realistic water, and yet the game is very poorly designed. This is something that you eleitist so called hardcore gamers have yet to comprehend. Graphics do not make games. Wow has some of the most nicely modeled, animated models in an mmorpg. Character walk cycles are excellently done, along with body animation and rigging.
Classic expample of this is sould calibur 2 on the Dreamcast. Imo best fighting game ever made, stands up to any soul calibur on the ps2, xbox/2. Why?, simple it has nice grapahics, but the player movement and desgin is great. Somethig that later soul calibur games failed to recreate. Another reason why these so called wow killing games are failing or will fail.
Simply saying omg this game has SO CALLED cartoony graphics, thats why you wont play it, and look at me im soo cool for not playing wow, is just crazy.