I think the original posters first screenshot is better than any of the LOTRO screens. Especially with Elijah Woods mug plastered all over them..
Besides which the game is made by Turbine. If anyone remembers AC2 when it first came out, pretty much all it had going for it was graphical appeal. Aside from that is was a pretty shitty game, much the same as LOTRO is rumoured to be.
WOW in Middle Earth? How innovative...
I for one think the graphics in VG are perfect. Yes I know, matter of opinion and all that. Anyhow, I agree with this poster, no matter how much prettier the look of LOTRO is, I will never ever (ever) play a game made by Turbine again. It will be sad to see them bring to its knees a second IP in the same manner as DDO.
I think the part(s) about Vanguards graphics that bother me the most are the lack or AA support, as evidenced by the awful amount of jaggies around Anarchy's horse. And the overuse of bump mapping. EQ2 suffered from the same overuse. When used in moderation, it can really make good graphics look outstanding, but sweet bleeding jesus, even the bump maps are bump mapped in VG.
I still prefer the look of VG over that of LotRO, though. The models, to me, look stiff, and manequin-y in both sets. Might be the static nature of screenshots, though, since they don't allow you to see idle animations and the like. The shots of LotRO looked a less vibrant, at least in terms of the characters themselves. Mind you, personal opinion and all that. Ultimately, I think both games have great graphics, each in their own way. Sadly, I found the gameplay in LotRO to be uninspiring.
So it's tool around in Vanguard until I get to see if Tabula Rosa and/or WAR can avoid being complete SNAFUs
Vanguard graphics really looking weird, I cant point my finger on it but somehow it doesnt feel right. It looks so cold and like over all screenshots there would be a grey tone over it. Cant explain it better, maybe they should use some more colors ? It doesnt mean it should look cartoonish, but all this grey and brown and this cold touch over the graphics doesnt look any good same as EQ2.
From the screenshots I have to say LOTR looks a tons better and Iam sure it wont lag as much. Its a perfect mix of colors and real graphics. Just my opinion and no Iam not a LOTR fan, I dont even think I will try that game. Waiting for G&H.
Probably Vanguard tried to use a million of polygons, most effects etc. but they didnt make it good. What I mean is this, one talented guy using for example 5000 polygons per model and someone else from the Vanguard team :P 20000 but that doesnt mean that one with 20k will look better but for sure will be a system hog, that feeling I have about Vanguard same with colors etc.....the only thing which really looks good in Vanguard from screenhots was the sky, that looks really good but thats about it
Did anyone play Gothic 3 ? It also look real and not cartoonish but has more colors. I dont know whats about this crap in VG & EQ2 but it doesnt look good this way.
Ok, so I logged into VG, to take a few shots of some of the areas I've been in lately, which to me, have a lot of atmosphere and just generally look very nice. Also just snapped a few random shots along the way.
Something I noticed is that it seems as if the the texture resolution is lowered in the shots when I was going through them after logging out. The image was very sharp, and well lit in game, but then when I look at the screenshot on my desktop, it looks a bit out of focus, and most of them are so damn dark you can't see anything. I don't know if the darkness is due to it being taken using my desktop gamma and brightness settings vs my ingame settings, which are much brighter. The loss of focus or clarity or whatever in the shots I've no clue what would cause that.
Which is why I dislike using screenshots as a judge of what the game actual looks like while you're playing it.
of the 15 or so shots a couple came out ok
Well, there's one or two others, I'll post them up later once imageshack stops acting like a nonce.
LOTR is graphically superior in many ways to Vanguard (having played both), but guess which one was installed after I rebuilt my PC - yes you guessed it Vanguard.
Despite needing higher specs, having worse FPS, looking worse and being buggy it is simply more of an MMO than LOTR, nothing quantitative I just enjoy it more.
Sorry LOTR guys - yes you win with the engine, hands down - its more stable and generally much much better but LOTR just doesn't feel like an MMO
Currently Playing:GW2 Currently Following:Elder Scrolls Online Games in my wake:Anarchy Online, Archlord (beta), Asherons Call, Asherons Call 2, City of Heroes, Dark Age of Camelot (SI to Catacombs), DDO, EVE Online, EverQuest II (beta), Guild Wars, Horizons, Lineage II,LORTO, Rift, RF Online (beta), RYL, Saga of Ryzon, Shadowbane, Star Wars Galaxies, Vanguard, WAR, WoW
Currently Playing:GW2 Currently Following:Elder Scrolls Online Games in my wake:Anarchy Online, Archlord (beta), Asherons Call, Asherons Call 2, City of Heroes, Dark Age of Camelot (SI to Catacombs), DDO, EVE Online, EverQuest II (beta), Guild Wars, Horizons, Lineage II,LORTO, Rift, RF Online (beta), RYL, Saga of Ryzon, Shadowbane, Star Wars Galaxies, Vanguard, WAR, WoW
Poll two, only answer this if you've played both within the last few weeks otherwise it isn't fair!!
So as not to take this any further off topic I've just included the games in the battle of the banjo... erm I mean screenshots.
Currently Playing:GW2 Currently Following:Elder Scrolls Online Games in my wake:Anarchy Online, Archlord (beta), Asherons Call, Asherons Call 2, City of Heroes, Dark Age of Camelot (SI to Catacombs), DDO, EVE Online, EverQuest II (beta), Guild Wars, Horizons, Lineage II,LORTO, Rift, RF Online (beta), RYL, Saga of Ryzon, Shadowbane, Star Wars Galaxies, Vanguard, WAR, WoW
Somebody take some screens with fraps running so we can see what the framerate is like. The screenies look good but I want to see what kind of framerate people are getting with those settings running on a 6800.
I have a 6200OC and I get on average 5-7fps. Faster would be better, but it's still playable.
See I can't tolerate that in a game. I have a 2.4ghz AMD, Radeon X1900GT and 1 GB Corsair DDR400 RAM. If that's not enough to get a solid 30 frames at all times in a game I'm not going to play it.
Somebody take some screens with fraps running so we can see what the framerate is like. The screenies look good but I want to see what kind of framerate people are getting with those settings running on a 6800.
I have a 6200OC and I get on average 5-7fps. Faster would be better, but it's still playable.
See I can't tolerate that in a game. I have a 2.4ghz AMD, Radeon X1900GT and 1 GB Corsair DDR400 RAM. If that's not enough to get a solid 30 frames at all times in a game I'm not going to play it.
You will get a solid 30 fps ...just not with the game set to max settings. Even at middle of the road..balance settings the game looks great. You can get 30 fps with that rig easy through 90% of the game. You will dip to 15-20 fps on balance settings in busy towns though. I get 20-30 fps through 90% of Vanguard with an AMD 3500, gig of ram, and Nvid 6600 with game on balance settings and grass turned off. Buy a Nvid card on your next upgrade though...most games are optimized for Nvid cards first. ATI has too many driver issues.
If you can't get a solid 30fps on balance settings than you have issues with yur rig...drivers, trojans, back ground programs..ect. Buying another gig of ram would be even better. You will need to soon anyways...1gig is quickly becoming bare minimum for new releases anyhows.
These screen shots were taking on the same system. I have an AMD 64 X2 4200 with 2 eVGA 7600GT 256MB graphics Cards, 2 gigs of ram. I am running Vanguard on high quality in this screen shot. Not Highest though. I am running LOTRO at Ultra High in the screen shots as that is what I play the game in. So, both are the settings I play the games at.
Currently playing: LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)
Looking Foward too: Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)
... These screen shots were taking on the same system. I have an AMD 64 X2 4200 with 2 eVGA 7600GT 256MB graphics Cards, 2 gigs of ram. I am running Vanguard on high quality in this screen shot. Not Highest though. I am running LOTRO at Ultra High in the screen shots as that is what I play the game in. So, both are the settings I play the games at.
I personally think Vanguard tried to hard with the graphics. They should of made them a little more simple. I am not a graphics expert by any means, but to me it just seems like maybe there is too much going on in each character. So the characters look so jagged. I can run the game at highest quality but then my FPS goes down to around 20ish. I still think it still has too much a jagged look. I like the smoother feel and look of the LOTRO game.
I wish someone would come out with a game with an engine like LOTRO but with a more open sandbox feel to the game. Who knows maybe the Bioware MMO will be like that.
Currently playing: LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)
Looking Foward too: Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)
Vanguard's view distance alone blows away any other mmorpg, ever, including LotR online. ...
I have played both Vanguard and LotRO, and I disagree with the above statment.
Vanguards view distance is no better than LotRO. You can stand on a hill in LotRO and look very far with an excellent blurring effect that actually enhances the feeling of it being far away in the horizon.
If you stand on a hill in Vanguard, you can look very far, but your computer grinds to a more or less complete stopwhile it tries to figure out what to show on the screen and don't even consider trying to turn around to look the other way....
Correction, YOUR computer, not mine. My computer doesn't grind to a halt EVER while playing Vanguard.
Honestly, I think the graphics in that screenshot look.... well, not impressive at all. I've seen WAY better graphics, not only in developing games but in current games as well.
Look at the edges of the horse against the sand and how rough and jagged it looks. It looks flat. It actually looks more like you photoshoped the picture of the horse onto a screen shot of the beach. The only thing I think looks some what good in that screen shot is the sky, but even that isn't impressive.
I've been watching this game for some time now. I'm a old SWG vet (played the first year and a half) and since then I've bounced back and forth from game to game looking for the right game to fill the void I've had after leaving SWG. I've found some fun games here and there but nothing has grabbed me like SWG did.
When I heard of Vanguard and read of all the wonderful things this game had to offer it became the game to look forward to. I kept up with news and loved everything I heard about it.
THEN a few months back I started seeing screenshots and game play videos that worried me. The graphics and character movements and actions looked bad, IMO, especially when you compare them to other games I've been looking at or have played, even some of the free to play game look better than Vanguard.
I posted my concerns and everyone insisted that they would look better once released since that wasn't the finished product....
WELL, I bought the game and have been playing it for the past few weeks. Lucky for me my PC can...somewhat handle higher settings, so I've been able to experience the high end graphics (in some areas), and in my opinion, they look lousy. I find they are more reminiscent of the old EQ graphics.
Overall, I am very disappointed in Vanguard. I've had to force myself to log on and keep giving it a chance, but I am just board and unimpressed. Not only are the graphics unappealing but the character customization I heard so much about was a huge disappointment. I honestly could care less about my feet and hand size, I rather have more hair and make-up / face options.
I've tried many different classes and areas and so far have not seen one thing in game that made me stop and say "Wow, that looks great!"
I can play EQ2 on the highest settings, smoothly on my laptop and it looks amazing! But I can even move my character on the crappy balanced setting in Vanguard on my laptop.
And on top of the unimpressive graphics, I've found the game boring and empty...that's right, empty. I hardly ever see other players even in the large cities, and this vast world is nothing but the same rocks, tress and land over and over. It like they wanted to make the world so huge, so they copy and pasted the land over and over again. There is nothing unique at all.
That screenshot is about .16MB in size; very low res. The LotR screens of the same size are around .46 MB; about 3 times as big and thusly higher res. Translation? Vanguard looks about 3 times better in person on my pc than the in game captured screens. What I was trying to show is the view distance in this shot. You can see for miles. But you proved my point, that personal taste is very subjective.
I hope you have fun in whatever game you play though, be it Vanguard or LotR!
Honestly, I think the graphics in that screenshot look.... well, not impressive at all. I've seen WAY better graphics, not only in developing games but in current games as well.
Look at the edges of the horse against the sand and how rough and jagged it looks. It looks flat. It actually looks more like you photoshoped the picture of the horse onto a screen shot of the beach. The only thing I think looks some what good in that screen shot is the sky, but even that isn't impressive.
I've been watching this game for some time now. I'm a old SWG vet (played the first year and a half) and since then I've bounced back and forth from game to game looking for the right game to fill the void I've had after leaving SWG. I've found some fun games here and there but nothing has grabbed me like SWG did.
When I heard of Vanguard and read of all the wonderful things this game had to offer it became the game to look forward to. I kept up with news and loved everything I heard about it.
THEN a few months back I started seeing screenshots and game play videos that worried me. The graphics and character movements and actions looked bad, IMO, especially when you compare them to other games I've been looking at or have played, even some of the free to play game look better than Vanguard.
I posted my concerns and everyone insisted that they would look better once released since that wasn't the finished product....
WELL, I bought the game and have been playing it for the past few weeks. Lucky for me my PC can...somewhat handle higher settings, so I've been able to experience the high end graphics (in some areas), and in my opinion, they look lousy. I find they are more reminiscent of the old EQ graphics.
Overall, I am very disappointed in Vanguard. I've had to force myself to log on and keep giving it a chance, but I am just board and unimpressed. Not only are the graphics unappealing but the character customization I heard so much about was a huge disappointment. I honestly could care less about my feet and hand size, I rather have more hair and make-up / face options.
I've tried many different classes and areas and so far have not seen one thing in game that made me stop and say "Wow, that looks great!"
I can play EQ2 on the highest settings, smoothly on my laptop and it looks amazing! But I can even move my character on the crappy balanced setting in Vanguard on my laptop.
And on top of the unimpressive graphics, I've found the game boring and empty...that's right, empty. I hardly ever see other players even in the large cities, and this vast world is nothing but the same rocks, tress and land over and over. It like they wanted to make the world so huge, so they copy and pasted the land over and over again. There is nothing unique at all.
That screenshot is about .16MB in size; very low res. The LotR screens of the same size are around .46 MB; about 3 times as big and thusly higher res. Translation? Vanguard looks about 3 times better in person on my pc than the in game captured screens. What I was trying to show is the view distance in this shot. You can see for miles. But you proved my point, that personal taste is very subjective.
I hope you have fun in whatever game you play though, be it Vanguard or LotR!
Anarchy I just wanted to say that is not true about the screen shots. The first LOTRO one I took was 280K the Vanguard one was 260K. That is pretty much equivalent as far as size. And the LOTRO was taken at higher resolutions then the Vanguard one and it is still pretty much the same size file.
Currently playing: LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)
Looking Foward too: Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)
Somebody take some screens with fraps running so we can see what the framerate is like. The screenies look good but I want to see what kind of framerate people are getting with those settings running on a 6800.
I have a 6200OC and I get on average 5-7fps. Faster would be better, but it's still playable.
See I can't tolerate that in a game. I have a 2.4ghz AMD, Radeon X1900GT and 1 GB Corsair DDR400 RAM. If that's not enough to get a solid 30 frames at all times in a game I'm not going to play it.
You will get a solid 30 fps ...just not with the game set to max settings. Even at middle of the road..balance settings the game looks great. You can get 30 fps with that rig easy through 90% of the game. You will dip to 15-20 fps on balance settings in busy towns though. I get 20-30 fps through 90% of Vanguard with an AMD 3500, gig of ram, and Nvid 6600 with game on balance settings and grass turned off. Buy a Nvid card on your next upgrade though...most games are optimized for Nvid cards first. ATI has too many driver issues.
If you can't get a solid 30fps on balance settings than you have issues with yur rig...drivers, trojans, back ground programs..ect. Buying another gig of ram would be even better. You will need to soon anyways...1gig is quickly becoming bare minimum for new releases anyhows.
Actually I researched my card before I bought it and it outperformed other Nvidia cards in the same price range. I've never owned a ATI card before so it took alot of convincing to switch brands.
It could be that VG's been optimized further since I tried in January but even now I see people upgrading to 8800s because they can't stand the performance issues.
****BTW the custom UI I use is called Parmons Boxed, it is a simple and very nice looking UI, I recommend it to all VSoH players because the stock interface is pretty ugly, takes up room and has less functionality. Get it here http://www.vgsohinterface.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=16
Currently Playing: Everything but MMORPGs Cancelled: L2, FFXI, VSoH, LotRO, WAR, WoW Looking Forward To: SW:TOR
LOTRO graphics crap all over VSOH... it probably has less polygon count and less technical additions, but it has good artistic direction and design. This isnt a battle between 'serious' graphics and 'anime' graphics either, its just style, of which VSOH has none.
Everything in the game looks like a fake lego piece that doesnt belong. The scenery in itself looks ok, the character models look ok (when they arent moving) and the particle effects and spells look.... uh not so ok. But when you shove them all together it just looks like a mess. Everquest 2 is over 2 years old, and that runs much nicer and more visually pleasing at max settings than VSOH does.
And no, this isnt a complaint about my computer not handling the game, it does, it just doesnt look great even at max settings.
LOTRO graphics crap all over VSOH... it probably has less polygon count and less technical additions, but it has good artistic direction and design. This isnt a battle between 'serious' graphics and 'anime' graphics either, its just style, of which VSOH has none. Everything in the game looks like a fake lego piece that doesnt belong. The scenery in itself looks ok, the character models look ok (when they arent moving) and the particle effects and spells look.... uh not so ok. But when you shove them all together it just looks like a mess. Everquest 2 is over 2 years old, and that runs much nicer and more visually pleasing at max settings than VSOH does. And no, this isnt a complaint about my computer not handling the game, it does, it just doesnt look great even at max settings.
Fair enough but the fact that some people agree with you and some people don't means that you prefer one art style over another, one opinion over another. I happen to love both games graphics, LOTR graphics are vibrant and bright, they remind me of WoW in ways. Vanguards graphics are in-depth and very realistic colour wise. Scenery in both games look great for their respective games, the character models are no better looking in LOTR then in Vanguard, your being a bit unrealistic about your post. When LOTR characters are moving I don't see much of a difference/improvement over Vanguards. Spell animations look fine to me, although the game still needs to be 'completed' we all know that.
Of course these are just my opinions.
Currently Playing: Everything but MMORPGs Cancelled: L2, FFXI, VSoH, LotRO, WAR, WoW Looking Forward To: SW:TOR
I would like to clearify that both games are using imposter distancing, which means even thought you see the very far away parts, it is a 2 d back drop like if you make one of those shoe box scenes with a little whole and it has different layer to give it depth.
I'm not sure about LotR, but that is absolutely not true in Vanguard. Everything in Vanguard is rendered real time, there is no 2d backdrop.
Anarchy I just wanted to say that is not true about the screen shots. The first LOTRO one I took was 280K the Vanguard one was 260K. That is pretty much equivalent as far as size. And the LOTRO was taken at higher resolutions then the Vanguard one and it is still pretty much the same size file.
I agree. I noticed some of the LotR screens are very small, as small as 52K on one of the smaller ones. I feel it is fair to say that the screenshots of Vanguard do not do the game justice and that the LotR ones do indeed do the game justice. LotR is much lower poly and that the engine renders a much shorter view distance in terms of actual rendered landscape, whereas Vanguard renders actual landscape much farther. Comparing the two games is really apples and oranges and very much up to personal taste.
I think both games look fantastic in their own way, however I prefer Vanguards gritty realism over LotRs idealistically bright colors. Even so, it will be very difficult for me not to purchase LotR based solely on the books and the games looks and tester feedback which is largely glowing.
After saying all that, I am hopelessly addicted to playing my rogue on the team pvp server in Vanguard.
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I think the part(s) about Vanguards graphics that bother me the most are the lack or AA support, as evidenced by the awful amount of jaggies around Anarchy's horse. And the overuse of bump mapping. EQ2 suffered from the same overuse. When used in moderation, it can really make good graphics look outstanding, but sweet bleeding jesus, even the bump maps are bump mapped in VG.
I still prefer the look of VG over that of LotRO, though. The models, to me, look stiff, and manequin-y in both sets. Might be the static nature of screenshots, though, since they don't allow you to see idle animations and the like. The shots of LotRO looked a less vibrant, at least in terms of the characters themselves. Mind you, personal opinion and all that. Ultimately, I think both games have great graphics, each in their own way. Sadly, I found the gameplay in LotRO to be uninspiring.
So it's tool around in Vanguard until I get to see if Tabula Rosa and/or WAR can avoid being complete SNAFUs
From the screenshots I have to say LOTR looks a tons better and Iam sure it wont lag as much. Its a perfect mix of colors and real graphics. Just my opinion and no Iam not a LOTR fan, I dont even think I will try that game. Waiting for G&H.
Probably Vanguard tried to use a million of polygons, most effects etc. but they didnt make it good. What I mean is this, one talented guy using for example 5000 polygons per model and someone else from the Vanguard team :P 20000 but that doesnt mean that one with 20k will look better but for sure will be a system hog, that feeling I have about Vanguard same with colors etc.....the only thing which really looks good in Vanguard from screenhots was the sky, that looks really good but thats about it
Did anyone play Gothic 3 ? It also look real and not cartoonish but has more colors. I dont know whats about this crap in VG & EQ2 but it doesnt look good this way.
Just my 2c.
Ok, so I logged into VG, to take a few shots of some of the areas I've been in lately, which to me, have a lot of atmosphere and just generally look very nice. Also just snapped a few random shots along the way.
Something I noticed is that it seems as if the the texture resolution is lowered in the shots when I was going through them after logging out. The image was very sharp, and well lit in game, but then when I look at the screenshot on my desktop, it looks a bit out of focus, and most of them are so damn dark you can't see anything. I don't know if the darkness is due to it being taken using my desktop gamma and brightness settings vs my ingame settings, which are much brighter. The loss of focus or clarity or whatever in the shots I've no clue what would cause that.
Which is why I dislike using screenshots as a judge of what the game actual looks like while you're playing it.
of the 15 or so shots a couple came out ok
Well, there's one or two others, I'll post them up later once imageshack stops acting like a nonce.
Despite needing higher specs, having worse FPS, looking worse and being buggy it is simply more of an MMO than LOTR, nothing quantitative I just enjoy it more.
Sorry LOTR guys - yes you win with the engine, hands down - its more stable and generally much much better but LOTR just doesn't feel like an MMO
Currently Playing: GW2
Currently Following: Elder Scrolls Online
Games in my wake: Anarchy Online, Archlord (beta), Asherons Call, Asherons Call 2, City of Heroes, Dark Age of Camelot (SI to Catacombs), DDO, EVE Online, EverQuest II (beta), Guild Wars, Horizons, Lineage II,LORTO, Rift, RF Online (beta), RYL, Saga of Ryzon, Shadowbane, Star Wars Galaxies, Vanguard, WAR, WoW
Currently Playing: GW2
Currently Following: Elder Scrolls Online
Games in my wake: Anarchy Online, Archlord (beta), Asherons Call, Asherons Call 2, City of Heroes, Dark Age of Camelot (SI to Catacombs), DDO, EVE Online, EverQuest II (beta), Guild Wars, Horizons, Lineage II,LORTO, Rift, RF Online (beta), RYL, Saga of Ryzon, Shadowbane, Star Wars Galaxies, Vanguard, WAR, WoW
So as not to take this any further off topic I've just included the games in the battle of the banjo... erm I mean screenshots.
Currently Playing: GW2
Currently Following: Elder Scrolls Online
Games in my wake: Anarchy Online, Archlord (beta), Asherons Call, Asherons Call 2, City of Heroes, Dark Age of Camelot (SI to Catacombs), DDO, EVE Online, EverQuest II (beta), Guild Wars, Horizons, Lineage II,LORTO, Rift, RF Online (beta), RYL, Saga of Ryzon, Shadowbane, Star Wars Galaxies, Vanguard, WAR, WoW
I have a 6200OC and I get on average 5-7fps. Faster would be better, but it's still playable.
See I can't tolerate that in a game. I have a 2.4ghz AMD, Radeon X1900GT and 1 GB Corsair DDR400 RAM. If that's not enough to get a solid 30 frames at all times in a game I'm not going to play it.
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I have a 6200OC and I get on average 5-7fps. Faster would be better, but it's still playable.
See I can't tolerate that in a game. I have a 2.4ghz AMD, Radeon X1900GT and 1 GB Corsair DDR400 RAM. If that's not enough to get a solid 30 frames at all times in a game I'm not going to play it.
You will get a solid 30 fps ...just not with the game set to max settings. Even at middle of the road..balance settings the game looks great. You can get 30 fps with that rig easy through 90% of the game. You will dip to 15-20 fps on balance settings in busy towns though. I get 20-30 fps through 90% of Vanguard with an AMD 3500, gig of ram, and Nvid 6600 with game on balance settings and grass turned off. Buy a Nvid card on your next upgrade though...most games are optimized for Nvid cards first. ATI has too many driver issues.
If you can't get a solid 30fps on balance settings than you have issues with yur rig...drivers, trojans, back ground programs..ect. Buying another gig of ram would be even better. You will need to soon anyways...1gig is quickly becoming bare minimum for new releases anyhows.
LOTRO:
LOTRO:
Another Close up of my character's face
Vanguard:
One of my Vulmane
These screen shots were taking on the same system. I have an AMD 64 X2 4200 with 2 eVGA 7600GT 256MB graphics Cards, 2 gigs of ram. I am running Vanguard on high quality in this screen shot. Not Highest though. I am running LOTRO at Ultra High in the screen shots as that is what I play the game in. So, both are the settings I play the games at.
Currently playing:
LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)
Looking Foward too:
Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)
check out this and this :
*http://stage6.divx.com/Vanguard_-_Saga_of_Heroes/show_video/1086614
*http://stage6.divx.com/Vanguard_-_Saga_of_Heroes/show_video/1086637
what you think about the graph quality in the video ?
in comparison to this high quality images, taken in the same machine as in the video . . .
from my point of view, the video looks way much better, yes ive taken them, beta4.
amdx2 4600
7800gt
2gb ram
hd 7200rpm
highest quality, some things turned off ( clouds/shadows )
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I wish someone would come out with a game with an engine like LOTRO but with a more open sandbox feel to the game. Who knows maybe the Bioware MMO will be like that.
Currently playing:
LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)
Looking Foward too:
Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)
Correction, YOUR computer, not mine. My computer doesn't grind to a halt EVER while playing Vanguard.
That screenshot is about .16MB in size; very low res. The LotR screens of the same size are around .46 MB; about 3 times as big and thusly higher res. Translation? Vanguard looks about 3 times better in person on my pc than the in game captured screens. What I was trying to show is the view distance in this shot. You can see for miles. But you proved my point, that personal taste is very subjective.
I hope you have fun in whatever game you play though, be it Vanguard or LotR!
That screenshot is about .16MB in size; very low res. The LotR screens of the same size are around .46 MB; about 3 times as big and thusly higher res. Translation? Vanguard looks about 3 times better in person on my pc than the in game captured screens. What I was trying to show is the view distance in this shot. You can see for miles. But you proved my point, that personal taste is very subjective.
I hope you have fun in whatever game you play though, be it Vanguard or LotR!
Anarchy I just wanted to say that is not true about the screen shots. The first LOTRO one I took was 280K the Vanguard one was 260K. That is pretty much equivalent as far as size. And the LOTRO was taken at higher resolutions then the Vanguard one and it is still pretty much the same size file.Currently playing:
LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)
Looking Foward too:
Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)
I have a 6200OC and I get on average 5-7fps. Faster would be better, but it's still playable.
See I can't tolerate that in a game. I have a 2.4ghz AMD, Radeon X1900GT and 1 GB Corsair DDR400 RAM. If that's not enough to get a solid 30 frames at all times in a game I'm not going to play it.
You will get a solid 30 fps ...just not with the game set to max settings. Even at middle of the road..balance settings the game looks great. You can get 30 fps with that rig easy through 90% of the game. You will dip to 15-20 fps on balance settings in busy towns though. I get 20-30 fps through 90% of Vanguard with an AMD 3500, gig of ram, and Nvid 6600 with game on balance settings and grass turned off. Buy a Nvid card on your next upgrade though...most games are optimized for Nvid cards first. ATI has too many driver issues.
If you can't get a solid 30fps on balance settings than you have issues with yur rig...drivers, trojans, back ground programs..ect. Buying another gig of ram would be even better. You will need to soon anyways...1gig is quickly becoming bare minimum for new releases anyhows.
Actually I researched my card before I bought it and it outperformed other Nvidia cards in the same price range. I've never owned a ATI card before so it took alot of convincing to switch brands.
It could be that VG's been optimized further since I tried in January but even now I see people upgrading to 8800s because they can't stand the performance issues.
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Just a post I made on another forum, enjoy everyone, I am using very low settings remember
My specs are as follows:
P4 3.2
1.5gb RAM
GF 6600GT 256mb
I play on the high performance setting (for those of you who don't know the second lowest setting in the game)
It looks great in my opinion, I took some screenshots for you too enjoy!
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/7590/screenshot00001op7.jpg
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/3406/screenshot00002zv4.jpg
****BTW the custom UI I use is called Parmons Boxed, it is a simple and very nice looking UI, I recommend it to all VSoH players because the stock interface is pretty ugly, takes up room and has less functionality. Get it here http://www.vgsohinterface.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=16
Currently Playing: Everything but MMORPGs
Cancelled: L2, FFXI, VSoH, LotRO, WAR, WoW
Looking Forward To: SW:TOR
LOTRO graphics crap all over VSOH... it probably has less polygon count and less technical additions, but it has good artistic direction and design. This isnt a battle between 'serious' graphics and 'anime' graphics either, its just style, of which VSOH has none.
Everything in the game looks like a fake lego piece that doesnt belong. The scenery in itself looks ok, the character models look ok (when they arent moving) and the particle effects and spells look.... uh not so ok. But when you shove them all together it just looks like a mess. Everquest 2 is over 2 years old, and that runs much nicer and more visually pleasing at max settings than VSOH does.
And no, this isnt a complaint about my computer not handling the game, it does, it just doesnt look great even at max settings.
Fair enough but the fact that some people agree with you and some people don't means that you prefer one art style over another, one opinion over another. I happen to love both games graphics, LOTR graphics are vibrant and bright, they remind me of WoW in ways. Vanguards graphics are in-depth and very realistic colour wise. Scenery in both games look great for their respective games, the character models are no better looking in LOTR then in Vanguard, your being a bit unrealistic about your post. When LOTR characters are moving I don't see much of a difference/improvement over Vanguards. Spell animations look fine to me, although the game still needs to be 'completed' we all know that.
Of course these are just my opinions.
Currently Playing: Everything but MMORPGs
Cancelled: L2, FFXI, VSoH, LotRO, WAR, WoW
Looking Forward To: SW:TOR
"Freedom is just another name for nothing left to lose" - Janis Joplin
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I'm not sure about LotR, but that is absolutely not true in Vanguard. Everything in Vanguard is rendered real time, there is no 2d backdrop.
And i remember with this quality graphics i havent PC lag with 1gb ram and 7600 gs
I agree. I noticed some of the LotR screens are very small, as small as 52K on one of the smaller ones. I feel it is fair to say that the screenshots of Vanguard do not do the game justice and that the LotR ones do indeed do the game justice. LotR is much lower poly and that the engine renders a much shorter view distance in terms of actual rendered landscape, whereas Vanguard renders actual landscape much farther. Comparing the two games is really apples and oranges and very much up to personal taste.
I think both games look fantastic in their own way, however I prefer Vanguards gritty realism over LotRs idealistically bright colors. Even so, it will be very difficult for me not to purchase LotR based solely on the books and the games looks and tester feedback which is largely glowing.
After saying all that, I am hopelessly addicted to playing my rogue on the team pvp server in Vanguard.
"Freedom is just another name for nothing left to lose" - Janis Joplin
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