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Why do people hate gays/lesbians?
Aguy
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NOTE: Before we begin, I would like to say I am NOT gay, nor will I ever be.
So I'm sure everyone's noticed: homosexuals are becoming more quantitative. But what else is increasing with them? The people who hate the increase.
I find it absolutely appalling that people cannot learn to accept others for who they are. Do you think it was their choice to be born like that? No! Some seem to think that they choose to be homosexual, but that is not the case.
And besides, why do you give a (censor) about what somebody else does behind closed doors? Is it that big of a deal that someone does what you do, only in a different way?
Let's do some relating. Let's say, for whatever reason, 80% of the world's population has turned homo. Most of that 80% express how much they resent same-sex marrige. You and your girlfriend get on a bus to go to (insert place here). You put your arm around her. Many people turn to look at you and give you strange looks, like what you are doing is repulsive. When you get home from work, you turn on the TV. There is a presidental address that says heterosexual people will not be allowed to join the millitary. Disgusted, you change the channel to news to find that a couple was beaten and is in critical condition at the hospital. Police believe it was because of their sexuality.
So how does that sound? That's exactly the kind of crap gays and lesbians are given.
So to finish off, I believe people should learn to be more accepting.
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and admit a truth about myself. Some will interpret this as anit-gay. I am aware of that. I hope that people can at least respect the fact that I'm being honest when I know that I'm setting myself up to be attacked.
Ok, it's like this. I don't hate homosexuals. My philosophy is live and let live. But I do hate gay parades, gay rallies, gays on television ranting about homophobia, gay rights, the supposed need for gay marriage to be legally recognized and all the fuss made about that issue, and basically any and all in-your-face promotion of the gay lifestyle.
What I've always wondered is why gay people can't just be gay and get on with their lives without making a public issue of it. Ok, to be fair about it I'm sure that many do. Maybe most, I don't know. It's the attention whoring and making a mountain out of a molehill types who generate anti-gay sentiments in my mind.
Ok, now you can attack me for being a politically incorrect, homophic nazi.
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Always hear people site the bible "A man shouldn't lay with another man . . . . and therefore it's a sin etc etc. . " The next couple of pages it says you should stone to death all disobedient kids. They pick and choose what to believe.
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I enjoy watching lesbians I am repulsed by watching gays.
No problems with either in non sexual circumstances.
Anyway, I don't like gays, but I don't have problems with it unless I know about it... like, I don't mind them being gay as long as they don't act gay like.... Some might think this is wrong, or that I'm homophobic or something, but that's the way I am.... can't change it just like gays can't change the fact they are gays....
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You say you don't like the "in your face promotion of the gay lifestyle." What you consider in your face is simply just us being shown in movies, tv shows, and such.
So, the way I'm reading what you said is that you would rather we just hide who we are or that we should be so ashamed of being born a certain way that we keep our entire capacity to love at an acceptable minimum. Would you appreciate being told to hide who you are? Like when you find the right girl and are planning on getting married, would you appreciate being told to keep your sick love to yourself instead of having people congratulate you and be happy for you?
I don't blame you for the way you feel. It's an attitude that is promoted from hate groups to various religions. The only thing I can do is tell you honestly (the same way you have been) how we feel. We just want to be able to express our love the same way you do. It's just as important a part of our lives as it is yours.
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I like to watch lesbians, why not? Gays meh, I guess because I'm a guy.
Well think about it from their perspective...
They have to look at heterosexuals on TV acting heterosexual, they have to see heterosexuals in movies acting heterosexual, they have to read books about heterosexuals (in high school you read Romeo and Juliet... not Romeo and Tybalt), etc. Basically what I am saying is that we as heterosexuals push our heterosexuality in their faces, so why shouldnt they do a degree of pushing back? As a heterosexual, I wear my sexuality in public (I kiss my girlfriend in public, hold her hand, etc) so wouldnt it be hypocritical of us to say anything about their sexuality? Granted, excessive public displays of affection are gross no matter who does it, but conservative displays of sexuality arent a problem.
The thing about "in your face promotion of the gay lifestyle" is that if this were the 1950s you'd probably say the same thing about blacks; they should have equal rights, but they dont have equal rights, but they shouldnt do anything about it. I mean, look what you just said "I dont have a problem with homosexuals, but I have a problem with them being treated like human beings at the same level that I am treated!" If you really just had a problem with the in your face part, you would say "Give them their rights so they'll shut the fuck up." If they were treated the same, they'd have nothing to complain about and then they wouldnt be in the public eye... plain and simple.
I do appreciate the reasoned response as opposed to what I expected. I expected to see rants liberally sprinkled with the word 'homophobic'.
Perhaps I can best make my feeling clear with the use of an analogy.
Let's say that I was standing at a bus stop. Another guy comes up to the bus stop and stands there.
Suddenly he turns to me and screams at the top of his lungs, "I'M GAY! I'M GAY, I'M GAY, I'M GAY, I'M GAY."
I say, "Ok, good for you."
He pauses for a moment and then screams, "I'M GAY SO GAY I'M GAY ALL DAY!!! I'M GAY AND THERE ISN'T ANYTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT!!!"
I say, "I don't want to do anything about it."
He pauses for a moment and then screams, "NYAA NYAA NA NYAA NAA, I'M GAY, I'M GAY, I'M GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY!!!"
I say, "Look, I really don't care. Be gay if you're gay. Go home and gay it up all you want but...STOP SCREAMING AT ME BECAUSE...I...DON'T...CARE!"
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Ok, see...the feeling I would get from that is the same feeling that I get from all the hoopla generated in the public eye about homosexuality. Through various forms of media, gay groups are metaphorically screaming in my ears and I get pissed off, not because they are gay, but because they won't stop screaming about it. They seem to expect that there MUST be some sort of response. Either I'm supposed to applaud them or condemn them. But all I really want is for them to stop making such a big deal out of it.
It is my belief that homophobes think their bigotry in some way legitimizes their personal lifestyle. I personally just see it as a telltale sign of the elementary light that our race casts on sexuality. Sex isn't one person railing another, it's the fulfillment of a role in a consenting relationship. In a homosexual relationship, each partner assumes a sexual role that is carried on into non-sexual matters. It's akin to the relationships that would be considered sick by today's standards: Greeks having open sexual relationships with young boys. The Greeks recognized that sex is more than the act, it is the role of the humans in the act.
Did that make any sense? I just rambled. And my roommate threw away my pipe because he "quit." What a fag.
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I have worked with both gays and lesbians and I have not found anything wrong with them, the guys are fun to be around they are totaly crazy they are actualy more enjoyable to be around than alot of straight guys ,they seem to have alot of charisma. I guess the reason some people have something against them is because they do not know any different .
I do appreciate the reasoned response as opposed to what I expected. I expected to see rants liberally sprinkled with the word 'homophobic'.
Perhaps I can best make my feeling clear with the use of an analogy.
Let's say that I was standing at a bus stop. Another guy comes up to the bus stop and stands there.
Suddenly he turns to me and screams at the top of his lungs, "I'M GAY! I'M GAY, I'M GAY, I'M GAY, I'M GAY."
I say, "Ok, good for you."
He pauses for a moment and then screams, "I'M GAY SO GAY I'M GAY ALL DAY!!! I'M GAY AND THERE ISN'T ANYTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT!!!"
I say, "I don't want to do anything about it."
He pauses for a moment and then screams, "NYAA NYAA NA NYAA NAA, I'M GAY, I'M GAY, I'M GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY!!!"
I say, "Look, I really don't care. Be gay if you're gay. Go home and gay it up all you want but...STOP SCREAMING AT ME BECAUSE...I...DON'T...CARE!"
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Ok, see...the feeling I would get from that is the same feeling that I get from all the hoopla generated in the public eye about homosexuality. Through various forms of media, gay groups are metaphorically screaming in my ears and I get pissed off, not because they are gay, but because they won't stop screaming about it. They seem to expect that there MUST be some sort of response. Either I'm supposed to applaud them or condemn them. But all I really want is for them to stop making such a big deal out of it.
The overwhelming majority of gays don't want to come up to you at the bus stop and scream they are gay at you just for the heck of it. Most of us just want to live a life with the same respect that heterosexuals receive. You get to put a picture of your wife/girlfriend up on your desk at work without any fear. If I were to put a picture of me and my boyfriend on my desk at work, I run the risk of alienation to even getting fired. I'm not welcome in certain careers simply because of who I am capable of loving. And am certainly not welcome in many places because of the mindset of a lot of people. We're simply trying to change that. Of course, some homosexuals take it to an extreme, but that extreme goes both ways. I bet that for every gay person who offends you there are 10 times as many straight people who have no problem throwing out a gay slur with no remorse.You may not like a gay person coming up to you at the bus stop screaming they are gay, but I wonder if you would feel that same anger and resentment at someone coming up to you at the bus stop and throwing a gay slur around. Or even someone on the street by that bus stop screaming about how all of us gays are undeserving of rights and freedoms because of something we have no control over. Or would you be the person that steps up and tells that person they are wrong?
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I think maybe I have a lot of charisma though. I do have a lot of acquaintances and get along with people very well. I have some awesome friends too that I know would stand by me through the roughest times.
But other than that I'm just not too "faggy". I don't even do a good impersenation of a gay person.
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My position has always been....
If you have an opinion on what consenting adults do behind closed doors. You need to take a hard look at yourself and possibly seek counseling. Its their business, not yours, get on with your own life if you have one. Once your perfect and your family is in perfect conditions, then maybe youll have enough time on your hands to consider what other men do with thier bums.
Meantime, ask yourself why the $%^& it matters to you ??
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Because the magority of the human race is a bunch of Aholes, and it's to much to ask of that people judged other people on a person to person bases for thier personallity and not the crap thy do in thier lives.
I'm an straight, athiest, white, american that loves hip hop and could give a damn what you are. If you suck you suck; I'll let you know after we've met, and becuase you think I'm cute is irrelevent whether you're male or female. Because I am cute, and I don't blame you. I love me too.
I don't really care for those that get their personality from tv or from friends who get their personality from tv. I personally believe at least 90% of people who end up gay and lesbian(Not experimenting) become so due to their surroundings or their upbringing. The right combination leads to that kind of sexual preference. The whole lifestyle/personality copycat crap annoys me though. As soon as the realization is made that a man or woman prefers the same sex the woman suddenly becomes butch and the man suddenly become feminine.
Now obviously this is not the case for all gay men and women, but only for that small % we notice. The ones we don't notice either do not alter their clothing/speech/personality to fit their sexual preference, or don't go so overboard you can tell they're gay just by looking at them or overhearing them speak while passing them in the mall.
Of course I understand that sometimes the egg comes before the chicken in these matters and people may start out with the clothing and the personality in High School to fit in with the only clique that will have them. This either leads to a realization of homosexuality or just a more open-minded way of looking at life and the people you encounter in it.
Bottom line is that I don't like knowing a guy or girl is gay before they tell me. Now telling me could be everything from "I'm Gay" to "I really enjoyed going out with "Obvious Same Sex Name" last night, to wearing a Gay Pride Button. But I don't like artificial people who can be read like a book because:
Now the topic was about hate. I don't hate anyone until I know them personally enough to even have a reason to hate them. I am just saying that sometimes "Annoyed By" could be mistaken for "Hate". When the mistake is on the part of someone else it is understandable, but when the mistake is made by the person who is annoyed it tricks them into becoming hateful.
Thus I answered your question for at least half of those out there who "hate" gays and lesbians(The other half are sexually insecure) and absolve myself of any misunderstand by stating "I am one who does not confuse annoy with hate." I further absolve myself by stating that I am 100% sure that if I got to know these people who I claim annoy me I would end up not being any longer annoyed by as many of them as is normal. There are bound to be the occasional few who would just bug the shit out of me because they annoying for many other reasons.
ok...I am admitting it and coming out of the closet.
I AM A LESBIAN.
Dude, are you really gonna make it that easy.
Somehow.... I already knew...