As i'm sure there are a lot of people out there that hate homosexuals i think the hate is being severely misinterpreted by homosexuals simply because people don't agree with the lifestyle. If our society gives in to homosexual wants,ideas, and desires concerning relationships and marriages these ideas will be pushed into our schools,churches and general public life. For example if homosexuals gain the right to be recognized for marriage by the government, whats to stop someone from wanting to marry their pet or wanting to have multiple wives or husbands. What will happen is it will open pandora's box to a whole avenue of immoral practices that will be forced to be condoned by the government as a recognizeable covenant. Another fact remains is that homosexual and lesbian lifestyles carry higher risks of STD's and other various types of diseases like HIV because apart from what conventional homosexual belief is, the act of homosexual activity is a perversion against the body. here is some information i copied and pasted from a site that did statistical research on sexually transmitted diseases and other various diseases that occur with homosexual activity.
A 1982 study mentioned in the Journal of the American Medical Association found that the anal cancer rate for homosexuals is way above normal, maybe as high as 50 times normal.1 And a 1997 New England Journal of Medicine study again drew attention to the "strong association between anal cancer and male homosexual contact."2 (The reason for the connection is that the lining of the anus, as opposed to the much thicker lining of the vagina, is only a single cell in thickness, tears easily, and thus is an easy point of entry for viruses and bacteria. Just as repeatedly assaulting lung tissue with cigarette smoke increases one's lung cancer risk, repeatedly damaging the anus and rectum increases one's anal cancer risk. Anal sex frequently results in damage to the anus and rectum. Too, this helps explain why AIDS is spread so easily in the homosexual community. However, even when there are not any tears in the anal lining, there is still a high risk for HIV infection because certain cells in its mucous lining [M-cells and Langerhans cells] can be infected and will then carry HIV deeper into one's body.)
Another study found that: 1) 80% of syphilitic patients are homosexual; 2) about one-third of homosexuals are infected with active anorectal herpes simplex viruses; 3) chlamydia infects 15% of homosexuals; and 4) "a host of parasites, bacterial, viral, and protozoan are all rampant in the homosexual population."3
Another study found that: 1) amoebiasis, a parasitic disease, afflicts around 32% of homosexuals; 2) giardiasis, also a parasitic disease, afflicts 14% of homosexuals (no heterosexuals in the study were found to have either amoebiasis or giardiasis); 3) gonorrhea afflicts 14% of homosexuals; and 4) 11% of homosexuals had anal warts.4
Another study found that anorectal sepsis, a potentially toxic bacterial infection, is 4 times more common in homosexual than heterosexual men.5
According to another study, the "prevalence of EBV type 2 [the Epstein-Barr type 2 virus] among homosexual men was significantly higher than it was among heterosexual men (39% vs. 6%)."6 (That virus causes infectious mononucleosis and is associated with two types of cancer: Burkitt's lymphoma and nasopharyngeal carcinoma.)
And other studies have found abnormally high rates of hepatitis B infection,7 hepatitis A infection,8 prostate cancer,9 colitis, enteritis, proctitis, and proctocolitis10 in homosexual men.
In 1997 a writer for the pro-homosexual New York Times noted that a young male homosexual in America has about a 50% chance of getting H.I.V. by middle age, that many homosexuals have abandoned "safe sex" in favor of unprotected anal sex, and that the incidence of gonorrhea rose 74% among homosexuals between 1993 and 1996.11
According to a study by the CDC, in 2002, 88% of San Francisco syphilis cases were found among homo/bisexual men.12
The Chicago Department of Public Health reported that the percentage of Chicago AIDS diagnoses connected to homo/bisexual men increased from 37% in year 2000 to 44% in 2003; and in mid-2006 it also reported that homo/bisexual men accounted for approximately 73% of Chicago syphilis cases for the year 2005.
Regarding lesbians, they face a higher breast cancer risk. One study of lesbians found that: "Sixty-three percent of the lesbians had never been pregnant....[And] Not having children increases a woman's breast cancer risk by between two to six times."13 Not having children also "may be a risk factor for ovarian cancer and may be implicated in endometrial cancer as well."14
Another study found bacterial vaginosis occuring in 33% of the lesbians but only in 13% of heterosexual women, and found that: "Cervical cytology abnormalities were uncommon but only found in the lesbians."15 (Those abnormalities may be precursors to cervical cancers.)
Another study of lesbians found a "relatively high prevalence of the viral STDs, herpes simplex and human papillomavirus [HPV]."16 And according to another: "Genital HPV infection and squamous intraepithelial lesions are common among women who are sexually active with women."17 HPV has been connected to cervical cancer. "DNA analysis has revealed that about 15 types of the virus account for more than 99 percent of all cervical cancer cases."18
(One reason lesbians have a relatively high incidence of STDs is that, as some studies have documented, lesbians have more sexual partners than heterosexual women. For example, a large University of Chicago study concluded that lesbians have four times as many sexual partners as straight women.19)
It should be noted that lesbian sexual diseases have not been researched nearly as much as male homosexual sexual diseases. This is because lesbian sex was presumed to be relatively safe. Some doctors are fairly calling for more research into the health of lesbians. With more study, we may find the "lesbian lifestyle" is not so safe after all.
Another relatively unknown fact: the blood of male homosexuals tends to be so contaminated with various viruses and bacteria that all male homosexuals who have been sexually active since 1977 are barred from donating blood.
Now i know what your thinking your thinking i'm wrong i'm a hatemonger and that i'm complete whacko but the truth of the matter is what kind of people are we? do we have standards of living? how long before we completely break down our moral structure to where there is nothing left of our dignity, thats why we fight for the rights of marriage thats why we fight for the right for freedom of speach when it is being taken away year after year. Did you know that pastors can't preach politics in their pulpits, that if they do their 501c3 non profit statis will be removed from them because officials running for office that were under par from morality were losing votes cause churches were standing up for whats right. where's our freedom of speech? Did you know pastors in Canada can't preach against homosexuality if they do they will go to jail for hate speech. How much longer before that becomes a law here. Homosexuals want all the rights in the world to continue what they want to do and want to take our rights away i'll even give you a prime example. your very own Elton John wants to ban religion. That is the truth of the matter we fight to keep our morals we are against it cause as a whole we need hold a level of morality or all hell breaks loose and then it becomes total anarchy, it starts with these basic principles.
As i'm sure there are a lot of people out there that hate homosexuals i think the hate is being severely misinterpreted by homosexuals simply because people don't agree with the lifestyle. If our society gives in to homosexual wants,ideas, and desires concerning relationships and marriages these ideas will be pushed into our schools,churches and general public life. For example if homosexuals gain the right to be recognized for marriage by the government, whats to stop someone from wanting to marry their pet or wanting to have multiple wives or husbands. What will happen is it will open pandora's box to a whole avenue of immoral practices that will be forced to be condoned by the government as a recognizeable covenant. Another fact remains is that homosexual and lesbian lifestyles carry higher risks of STD's and other various types of diseases like HIV because apart from what conventional homosexual belief is, the act of homosexual activity is a perversion against the body. here is some information i copied and pasted from a site that did statistical research on sexually transmitted diseases and other various diseases that occur with homosexual activity.
A 1982 study mentioned in the Journal of the American Medical Association found that the anal cancer rate for homosexuals is way above normal, maybe as high as 50 times normal.1 And a 1997 New England Journal of Medicine study again drew attention to the "strong association between anal cancer and male homosexual contact."2 (The reason for the connection is that the lining of the anus, as opposed to the much thicker lining of the vagina, is only a single cell in thickness, tears easily, and thus is an easy point of entry for viruses and bacteria. Just as repeatedly assaulting lung tissue with cigarette smoke increases one's lung cancer risk, repeatedly damaging the anus and rectum increases one's anal cancer risk. Anal sex frequently results in damage to the anus and rectum. Too, this helps explain why AIDS is spread so easily in the homosexual community. However, even when there are not any tears in the anal lining, there is still a high risk for HIV infection because certain cells in its mucous lining [M-cells and Langerhans cells] can be infected and will then carry HIV deeper into one's body.) Another study found that: 1) 80% of syphilitic patients are homosexual; 2) about one-third of homosexuals are infected with active anorectal herpes simplex viruses; 3) chlamydia infects 15% of homosexuals; and 4) "a host of parasites, bacterial, viral, and protozoan are all rampant in the homosexual population."3 Another study found that: 1) amoebiasis, a parasitic disease, afflicts around 32% of homosexuals; 2) giardiasis, also a parasitic disease, afflicts 14% of homosexuals (no heterosexuals in the study were found to have either amoebiasis or giardiasis); 3) gonorrhea afflicts 14% of homosexuals; and 4) 11% of homosexuals had anal warts.4 Another study found that anorectal sepsis, a potentially toxic bacterial infection, is 4 times more common in homosexual than heterosexual men.5 According to another study, the "prevalence of EBV type 2 [the Epstein-Barr type 2 virus] among homosexual men was significantly higher than it was among heterosexual men (39% vs. 6%)."6 (That virus causes infectious mononucleosis and is associated with two types of cancer: Burkitt's lymphoma and nasopharyngeal carcinoma.) And other studies have found abnormally high rates of hepatitis B infection,7 hepatitis A infection,8 prostate cancer,9 colitis, enteritis, proctitis, and proctocolitis10 in homosexual men. In 1997 a writer for the pro-homosexual New York Times noted that a young male homosexual in America has about a 50% chance of getting H.I.V. by middle age, that many homosexuals have abandoned "safe sex" in favor of unprotected anal sex, and that the incidence of gonorrhea rose 74% among homosexuals between 1993 and 1996.11 According to a study by the CDC, in 2002, 88% of San Francisco syphilis cases were found among homo/bisexual men.12 The Chicago Department of Public Health reported that the percentage of Chicago AIDS diagnoses connected to homo/bisexual men increased from 37% in year 2000 to 44% in 2003; and in mid-2006 it also reported that homo/bisexual men accounted for approximately 73% of Chicago syphilis cases for the year 2005. Regarding lesbians, they face a higher breast cancer risk. One study of lesbians found that: "Sixty-three percent of the lesbians had never been pregnant....[And] Not having children increases a woman's breast cancer risk by between two to six times."13 Not having children also "may be a risk factor for ovarian cancer and may be implicated in endometrial cancer as well."14 Another study found bacterial vaginosis occuring in 33% of the lesbians but only in 13% of heterosexual women, and found that: "Cervical cytology abnormalities were uncommon but only found in the lesbians."15 (Those abnormalities may be precursors to cervical cancers.) Another study of lesbians found a "relatively high prevalence of the viral STDs, herpes simplex and human papillomavirus [HPV]."16 And according to another: "Genital HPV infection and squamous intraepithelial lesions are common among women who are sexually active with women."17 HPV has been connected to cervical cancer. "DNA analysis has revealed that about 15 types of the virus account for more than 99 percent of all cervical cancer cases."18 (One reason lesbians have a relatively high incidence of STDs is that, as some studies have documented, lesbians have more sexual partners than heterosexual women. For example, a large University of Chicago study concluded that lesbians have four times as many sexual partners as straight women.19) It should be noted that lesbian sexual diseases have not been researched nearly as much as male homosexual sexual diseases. This is because lesbian sex was presumed to be relatively safe. Some doctors are fairly calling for more research into the health of lesbians. With more study, we may find the "lesbian lifestyle" is not so safe after all. Another relatively unknown fact: the blood of male homosexuals tends to be so contaminated with various viruses and bacteria that all male homosexuals who have been sexually active since 1977 are barred from donating blood.
Now i know what your thinking your thinking i'm wrong i'm a hatemonger and that i'm complete whacko but the truth of the matter is what kind of people are we? do we have standards of living? how long before we completely break down our moral structure to where there is nothing left of our dignity, thats why we fight for the rights of marriage thats why we fight for the right for freedom of speach when it is being taken away year after year. Did you know that pastors can't preach politics in their pulpits, that if they do their 501c3 non profit statis will be removed from them because officials running for office that were under par from morality were losing votes cause churches were standing up for whats right. where's our freedom of speech? Did you know pastors in Canada can't preach against homosexuality if they do they will go to jail for hate speech. How much longer before that becomes a law here. Homosexuals want all the rights in the world to continue what they want to do and want to take our rights away i'll even give you a prime example. your very own Elton John wants to ban religion. That is the truth of the matter we fight to keep our morals we are against it cause as a whole we need hold a level of morality or all hell breaks loose and then it becomes total anarchy, it starts with these basic principles.
KeeperofKeb
Not sure how to start.
First, Elton John is an ass. I'm a athiest, and I do believe that religion has caused more atrocities then any single other belief in the world, but I wouldn't go so far as to ban it. Not at this point in the human evolution.
That study is a case against Anal sex, not homosexuality; it's silly.
Look. I have learned that it is much easier to convert an athiest but to convert a believer takes an act of god. You either do or do not believe and if you do then it usually takes a pretty big event in your life to convert to a non believer.
Saying that, there is no way I could explain how when you bring religion into the mix it becomes impossible to express belief.
LIke, how do express the concept of marriage in a non union of god type thing. There is no god in there for me. It's a ring, a ceremony, a marriage LISENCE, joint fileing of taxes, but no god. Believers don't see it that way for the most part.
If you can't be convinced of the insignificance of god in marriage there really isn't any way of conincing you that a person is a person no matter what thier sexual orientation, religion, sex, race, or beliefs. It doesn't hurt you, so why should it bother you. It's not possible to convince you.
As far as preachers not being able to preach polotics at the pulpit. The seperation of church and state is meant to keep the infuence of religion out of polotics for reasons just like this, and it should be vice versa. Decisions shouldn't be made with the infuence of any god; decisions should be made on the basis of what is good for the people. There are way to many gods for decision making to be handled like that. And quite frankly if a church doesn't pay tax they should be influencing elections.
Keep in mind however that we both know that religion is embeded in politics and vice versa. Religioues leaders are making donations to campaingns and politicians are making decisions based on thier own godly beliefs.
As i'm sure there are a lot of people out there that hate homosexuals i think the hate is being severely misinterpreted by homosexuals simply because people don't agree with the lifestyle. If our society gives in to homosexual wants,ideas, and desires concerning relationships and marriages these ideas will be pushed into our schools,churches and general public life. For example if homosexuals gain the right to be recognized for marriage by the government, whats to stop someone from wanting to marry their pet or wanting to have multiple wives or husbands. What will happen is it will open pandora's box to a whole avenue of immoral practices that will be forced to be condoned by the government as a recognizeable covenant. Another fact remains is that homosexual and lesbian lifestyles carry higher risks of STD's and other various types of diseases like HIV because apart from what conventional homosexual belief is, the act of homosexual activity is a perversion against the body. here is some information i copied and pasted from a site that did statistical research on sexually transmitted diseases and other various diseases that occur with homosexual activity.
There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with homosexuality being pushed into school to a certain degree, as they learn that there are also males who love each the same gender, as well as females. It would only come for the best, maybe children will finally stop using the words "Fag" and "Gay" as insults. in the part below you talk about standards. America preaches how its the land of freedom, and how everyone gets equal rights, But don't you dare to be diffrent,Even if its something that can't be helped, because that means no equal rights for you. What kind of standards are that?
The other things you mentioned are complete diffrent subects.
Now i know what your thinking your thinking i'm wrong i'm a hatemonger and that i'm complete whacko but the truth of the matter is what kind of people are we? do we have standards of living? how long before we completely break down our moral structure to where there is nothing left of our dignity, thats why we fight for the rights of marriage thats why we fight for the right for freedom of speach when it is being taken away year after year There is only one BUT. There is no "OUR" Moral structure. there is YOUR moral structure. If you think Marrying another man is wrong, then fine, don't marry another man, that is your right and that is your choice. But your morals should NOT have any influence on someone else's life. Just becaue you see it as a lack of dignity does not mean someone else also sees it a a lack of dignity. If a man wants to marry another man, then that is none of your damn bussiness. its how THEY want to live their life, it doesn't affect ANYONE but them, it doesn't harm anything or anyone.
. Did you know that pastors can't preach politics in their pulpits, that if they do their 501c3 non profit statis will be removed from them because officials running for office that were under par from morality were losing votes cause churches were standing up for whats right. where's our freedom of speech? Did you know pastors in Canada can't preach against homosexuality if they do they will go to jail for hate speech. How much longer before that becomes a law here. Homosexuals want all the rights in the world to continue what they want to do and want to take our rights away i'll even give you a prime example. your very own Elton John wants to ban religion. That is the truth of the matter we fight to keep our morals we are against it cause as a whole we need hold a level of morality or all hell breaks loose and then it becomes total anarchy, it starts with these basic principles. There are no set basic principles. There are no set morals, everyone has their own morals, and your morals, And I don't care if they are brought to you by your parents, your religion, or anything else, should NOT be pushed onto someone else. Just because your convinced that its wrong does NOT mean that someone else agrees with you.
I don't bother much with morals or values, so maybe I'm just a lost cause. Like I've said before, I only know somewhat of right and wrong. I don't always do right, but I try not to do horribly wrong. That being said, someone like myself has a hard time understanding how religion is even considered when talking about right and wrong, I just don't see the need for it. People can tout off the same dried up quotes and references to the bible and other sources, but that's totally lost on me since it explains nothing to someone who only considers people for how they present themselves.
Also, I'm not really concerned with equal rights and tolerance. People can try to deny me either for any number of reasons but I take what I want and I do what I want anyway so it doesn't really matter. I'm indian, or native american for the pc crowd. I'm not much for protesting or complaining about what I don't have, I just work to obtain it. I know quite a few gay people and I just can't make the comparison to those this thread is about because those who I know just aren't that off the wall. Infact, most of them are far more normal and stable and definitely more productive then I'll ever be. I guess what it comes down to is, people being gay is never an issue for me, because it's just not worth being an issue.
The whole played out nonsense about gay people being immoral, living an unnatural lifestyle, and that they have a choice to be gay or not is really getting old and it's down right laughable at this point. It's unfortunate that people who still think that way waste so much of other peoples time, I mean you can try to ignore them but they're more in your face then any other group I know of.
Edit: I'll add that I'm not a huge fan of that in-your-face crowed either that someone mentioned near the beginning of this thread, but that has a lot to do me being annoyed by most people in general since it's not very hard to get on nerves.
I don't bother much with morals or values, so maybe I'm just a lost cause. Like I've said before, I only know somewhat of right and wrong. I don't always do right, but I try not to do horribly wrong. That being said, someone like myself has a hard time understanding how religion is even considered when talking about right and wrong, I just don't see the need for it. People can tout off the same dried up quotes and references to the bible and other sources, but that's totally lost on me since it explains nothing to someone who only considers people for how they present themselves.
Also, I'm not really concerned with equal rights and tolerance. People can try to deny me either for any number of reasons but I take what I want and I do what I want anyway so it doesn't really matter. I'm indian, or native american for the pc crowd. I'm not much for protesting or complaining about what I don't have, I just work to obtain it. I know quite a few gay people and I just can't make the comparison to those this thread is about because those who I know just aren't that off the wall. Infact, most of them are far more normal and stable and definitely more productive then I'll ever be. I guess what it comes down to is, people being gay is never an issue for me, because it's just not worth being an issue.
The whole played out nonsense about gay people being immoral, living an unnatural lifestyle, and that they have a choice to be gay or not is really getting old and it's down right laughable at this point. It's unfortunate that people who still think that way waste so much of other peoples time, I mean you can try to ignore them but they're more in your face then any other group I know of.
Edit: I'll add that I'm not a huge fan of that in-your-face crowed either that someone mentioned near the beginning of this thread, but that has a lot to do me being annoyed by most people in general since it's not very hard to get on nerves.
You answered your own question in the first paragraph..
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
I don't understand why a religion like christianity is used to discuss issues like this because it seems like a complete misuse of the ideas of christianity. I'm not religious, and I don't bother trying soo hard to be moral, good work figuring that out, except that one isn't the cause of the other. I'm not christian, but there's ideas in that religion people can gain from, but turning a religion that so many people try to better their lives with into a crutch by reciting bits and pieces in discussions like this one is down right disrespectful.
Gays are very promiscuous, much more so than heterosexuals. Aids originally prospered in the Gay community and was passed on to the heterosexual community by bisexuals.
Gays make a mockery of social traditions like marriage, family, religion, which provide stable foundations for society.
The Gay community promotes an image of flamboyant, outrageous freaks in San Francisco and in Hollywood like Rosie O'Donnell.
Same reasons as everyone else. Gays are very promiscuous, much more so than heterosexuals. Aids originally prospered in the Gay community and was passed on to the heterosexual community by bisexuals. Gays make a mockery of social traditions like marriage, family, religion, which provide stable foundations for society. The Gay community promotes an image of flamboyant, outrageous freaks in San Francisco and in Hollywood like Rosie O'Donnell.
Your promiscuity claim is baseless. Links please. From personal experience, society as a whole is slutty, not just gay guys.
Being that gays can't marry, start a legitimate family, and are considered sinners by the majority of religions, I don't see how they can make a mockery of such things. Now heterosexuals on the other hand, I'd think today's divorce rates and broken homes make much more of a mockery of the married/family life.
Both the gay and straight community probably promote non-PC things. You seem to single out gay people and make heterosexuals look like saints.
Hatred of gays/lesbians mainly stems from the media, when you see something about gays/lesbians on TV its mainly stereotypes, like a butch lesbian wearing mens clothes or your typical prissy gay. I bet 90% of gay/lesbian haters have never even talked to or met a homosexual, they simply cannot stand seeing these 'un-normal' people and it frightens them.
In my personal oppionion whilst I dont 'hate' gays, homosexual sex disturbs me, it seems like a false sense of masculinity... the thought of one bloke treating another bloke like a woman I guess.
On the other hand hot lesbians are a major turn on for me, I dont ever watch porn thats not lesbian, the only dick I ever want to see is my own.. yeah I guess im fucked up..
Hatred of gays/lesbians mainly stems from the media, when you see something about gays/lesbians on TV its mainly stereotypes, like a butch lesbian wearing mens clothes or your typical prissy gay. I bet 90% of gay/lesbian haters have never even talked to or met a homosexual, they simply cannot stand seeing these 'un-normal' people and it frightens them. In my personal oppionion whilst I dont 'hate' gays, homosexual sex disturbs me, it seems like a false sense of masculinity... the thought of one bloke treating another bloke like a woman I guess. On the other hand hot lesbians are a major turn on for me, I dont ever watch porn thats not lesbian, the only dick I ever want to see is my own.. yeah I guess im fucked up..
I work with a gay guy. He talks funny and bounces around when he walks. It's not normal behavior and is disturbing. The thought of two guys screwing each other is disgusting.
I work with a gay guy. He talks funny and bounces around when he walks. It's not normal behavior and is disturbing. The thought of two guys screwing each other is disgusting.
So why do you think about it ??
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2. An entire post whose premise is "this ill-defined group of people I don't understand is wrong" and then ending it with "So to finish off, I believe people should learn to be more accepting."
See, your title is phrased as a question. But your post is all "you're wrong, you're wrong, I'm smarter and better than you and you're wrong." And these things tend to reach out to people who already agree with you, and you all have rallys about how much better you are then everyone else, and some real solid group-think sets in.
You really want to understand why people think a certain way? Find someone who thinks that way (not me on this issue btw) and listen to them. Then find another and listen again. When you understand their point so well that you can put it better than they can, then you're in a position to start showing how it's wrong. Otherwise it's just inane rambling.
I work with a gay guy. He talks funny and bounces around when he walks. It's not normal behavior and is disturbing. The thought of two guys screwing each other is disgusting.
So why do you think about it ??
Well it's human nature to think about sex. There are many studies that prove that.
Topics like this conjure that image for a moment unfortunately. It sickens me.
I work with a gay guy. He talks funny and bounces around when he walks. It's not normal behavior and is disturbing. The thought of two guys screwing each other is disgusting.
So why do you think about it ??
Well it's human nature to think about sex. There are many studies that prove that.
Topics like this conjure that image for a moment unfortunately. It sickens me.
I find the thought of two guys a little nausiating myself too, but then again I also don't like the image of quite a lot of heteros having sex either. I certainly wouldn't pass any laws which tried to prevent ugly people, or old people or my parents from having sex with eachother on the basis of what I find distasteful to imagine, nor a law that persecutes them in any way for doing so, and neither would I for gay sex.
Hatred of gays/lesbians mainly stems from the media, when you see something about gays/lesbians on TV its mainly stereotypes, like a butch lesbian wearing mens clothes or your typical prissy gay. I bet 90% of gay/lesbian haters have never even talked to or met a homosexual, they simply cannot stand seeing these 'un-normal' people and it frightens them. In my personal oppionion whilst I dont 'hate' gays, homosexual sex disturbs me, it seems like a false sense of masculinity... the thought of one bloke treating another bloke like a woman I guess. On the other hand hot lesbians are a major turn on for me, I dont ever watch porn thats not lesbian, the only dick I ever want to see is my own.. yeah I guess im fucked up..
I work with a gay guy. He talks funny and bounces around when he walks. It's not normal behavior and is disturbing. The thought of two guys screwing each other is disgusting. So all gay guys must be like that too!!111oneleven.
As i'm sure there are a lot of people out there that hate homosexuals i think the hate is being severely misinterpreted by homosexuals simply because people don't agree with the lifestyle. If our society gives in to homosexual wants,ideas, and desires concerning relationships and marriages these ideas will be pushed into our schools,churches and general public life. For example if homosexuals gain the right to be recognized for marriage by the government, whats to stop someone from wanting to marry their pet or wanting to have multiple wives or husbands. What will happen is it will open pandora's box to a whole avenue of immoral practices that will be forced to be condoned by the government as a recognizeable covenant. Another fact remains is that homosexual and lesbian lifestyles carry higher risks of STD's and other various types of diseases like HIV because apart from what conventional homosexual belief is, the act of homosexual activity is a perversion against the body. here is some information i copied and pasted from a site that did statistical research on sexually transmitted diseases and other various diseases that occur with homosexual activity.
There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with homosexuality being pushed into school to a certain degree, as they learn that there are also males who love each the same gender, as well as females. It would only come for the best, maybe children will finally stop using the words "Fag" and "Gay" as insults. in the part below you talk about standards. America preaches how its the land of freedom, and how everyone gets equal rights, But don't you dare to be diffrent,Even if its something that can't be helped, because that means no equal rights for you. What kind of standards are that?
The other things you mentioned are complete diffrent subects.
Now i know what your thinking your thinking i'm wrong i'm a hatemonger and that i'm complete whacko but the truth of the matter is what kind of people are we? do we have standards of living? how long before we completely break down our moral structure to where there is nothing left of our dignity, thats why we fight for the rights of marriage thats why we fight for the right for freedom of speach when it is being taken away year after year There is only one BUT. There is no "OUR" Moral structure. there is YOUR moral structure. If you think Marrying another man is wrong, then fine, don't marry another man, that is your right and that is your choice. But your morals should NOT have any influence on someone else's life. Just becaue you see it as a lack of dignity does not mean someone else also sees it a a lack of dignity. If a man wants to marry another man, then that is none of your damn bussiness. its how THEY want to live their life, it doesn't affect ANYONE but them, it doesn't harm anything or anyone.
. Did you know that pastors can't preach politics in their pulpits, that if they do their 501c3 non profit statis will be removed from them because officials running for office that were under par from morality were losing votes cause churches were standing up for whats right. where's our freedom of speech? Did you know pastors in Canada can't preach against homosexuality if they do they will go to jail for hate speech. How much longer before that becomes a law here. Homosexuals want all the rights in the world to continue what they want to do and want to take our rights away i'll even give you a prime example. your very own Elton John wants to ban religion. That is the truth of the matter we fight to keep our morals we are against it cause as a whole we need hold a level of morality or all hell breaks loose and then it becomes total anarchy, it starts with these basic principles. There are no set basic principles. There are no set morals, everyone has their own morals, and your morals, And I don't care if they are brought to you by your parents, your religion, or anything else, should NOT be pushed onto someone else. Just because your convinced that its wrong does NOT mean that someone else agrees with you.
KeeperofKeb
the difference between you and I is that I believe that there is Right and Wrong, Moral and Immoral practices that are dictated by my beliefs in God. You don't have those beliefs so your not guided by anything except your fleshly instinct. My point of view is if God sees it as wrong then its wrong, homosexuality is perverse it takes the love for a man and a woman and an intimacy that is supposed to be sacred and turns it into an abomination against the foundation upon which relationships were made and that just because you or someone else thinks its right doesn't make it right for them its still wrong. The fact of the matter is we are created beings, we have a God that wants a relationship with us, he gives us rules to live by not because he's evil but because he loves us, Sin is the road to death when we (christians) preach that homosexuality is wrong we are delivering what God is saying to the people from his word, although i admit some preachers do it hatefully it should never be done that way. I understand there are people here that don't uphold to these beliefs but just because you don't believe them doesn't make you right, you're still wrong. I"ll give you a basic example there are many truths in this world that are absolutes like the sky is blue or 2+2=4 or and object in motion tends to stay in motion. We (christians) have truths like this that are immoveable,unchanging that are very precise and distinct. Now someone else comes along with a perverted sense of perception and says the sky is Red! no 2+2=5 or objects don't stay in motion when in motion. What has happened within our society is men are born knowing right from wrong but lust after the things of the world and do those things violating their consciousness until they can't tell right from wrong anymore and choose to live in them and love them. All christians are doing is trying to help those that sit in darkness trying to show the path to truth and salvation and if they choose not to except it, then thats their own choice but there is one ultimate judge who has to judge all the sins of the world and ultimately justice has to be served and God is giving mankind a chance at Grace and Mercy and Restoration, that my friend is why we preach.
But if God made human beings in his image, and some of us are gay, wouldnt that mean that god is gay? They kinda did that in South Park this week, but still it is a question I wouldnt mind watching you weasel out of.
You [KeeperofKeb] say:
"All christians are doing is trying to help those that sit in darkness trying to show the path to truth and salvation and if they choose not to except it, then thats their own choice but there is one ultimate judge who has to judge all the sins of the world and ultimately justice has to be served and God is giving mankind a chance at Grace and Mercy and Restoration, that my friend is why we preach."
Well, maybe your intent is ostensibly the salvation of those you preach to but what you really do is spread hatred towards gays which results in things like gay bashing and extraordinarily high suicide rates among teenage homosexuals. The truth is your type just use Christianity to justify the fact that you are hateful bigots. If you were a real Christian you'd be aware of such things as "Judge not lest ye be judged," and "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." You'd also know that Jesus would be appalled by the fact that you harbor such hatred and if there is infact a final judgement where you stand before God and have to account for all of your actions on Earth... you, not the gays, will be the one cast into the lake of fire.
The answer is simple, disgusting, and will follow humanity til the end of time.
Fear and ignorance.
Oh, and a big FU to any God talk. By definition god is PERFECT. Everything and nothing, gayer than a tree full of Elton Johns. If anything was made in His/Her/MonkeyRhinoAmoeba's image, it would look like everything and nothing.
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Where i am at the moment, the sky is not blue, it is 1:24am and the sun is not producing an electromagnetic effect in the upper atmosphere percieved to our eyes as 'blue', assuming we all agree what blue is. Blue is a tool of man to describe a particular band in the electromagnetic spectrum
2+2=4, only if you are assuming we all agree on a numbering system, what 2 means as a value, what + means and what ='s conveys, maths is just a tool, completely and totaly arbitary, the incredible thing is that it works.
objects dont stay in motion, only if you assume we all agree on what motion really is, and agree apon a frame of reference (which doesnt exist, there is no prefered frame of reference), then you have to agree apon what an object is and what its boundaries are. Once again you are using maths to describe these thing.
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As i'm sure there are a lot of people out there that hate homosexuals i think the hate is being severely misinterpreted by homosexuals simply because people don't agree with the lifestyle. If our society gives in to homosexual wants,ideas, and desires concerning relationships and marriages these ideas will be pushed into our schools,churches and general public life. For example if homosexuals gain the right to be recognized for marriage by the government, whats to stop someone from wanting to marry their pet or wanting to have multiple wives or husbands. What will happen is it will open pandora's box to a whole avenue of immoral practices that will be forced to be condoned by the government as a recognizeable covenant. Another fact remains is that homosexual and lesbian lifestyles carry higher risks of STD's and other various types of diseases like HIV because apart from what conventional homosexual belief is, the act of homosexual activity is a perversion against the body. here is some information i copied and pasted from a site that did statistical research on sexually transmitted diseases and other various diseases that occur with homosexual activity.
A 1982 study mentioned in the Journal of the American Medical Association found that the anal cancer rate for homosexuals is way above normal, maybe as high as 50 times normal.1 And a 1997 New England Journal of Medicine study again drew attention to the "strong association between anal cancer and male homosexual contact."2 (The reason for the connection is that the lining of the anus, as opposed to the much thicker lining of the vagina, is only a single cell in thickness, tears easily, and thus is an easy point of entry for viruses and bacteria. Just as repeatedly assaulting lung tissue with cigarette smoke increases one's lung cancer risk, repeatedly damaging the anus and rectum increases one's anal cancer risk. Anal sex frequently results in damage to the anus and rectum. Too, this helps explain why AIDS is spread so easily in the homosexual community. However, even when there are not any tears in the anal lining, there is still a high risk for HIV infection because certain cells in its mucous lining [M-cells and Langerhans cells] can be infected and will then carry HIV deeper into one's body.)
Another study found that: 1) 80% of syphilitic patients are homosexual; 2) about one-third of homosexuals are infected with active anorectal herpes simplex viruses; 3) chlamydia infects 15% of homosexuals; and 4) "a host of parasites, bacterial, viral, and protozoan are all rampant in the homosexual population."3
Another study found that: 1) amoebiasis, a parasitic disease, afflicts around 32% of homosexuals; 2) giardiasis, also a parasitic disease, afflicts 14% of homosexuals (no heterosexuals in the study were found to have either amoebiasis or giardiasis); 3) gonorrhea afflicts 14% of homosexuals; and 4) 11% of homosexuals had anal warts.4
Another study found that anorectal sepsis, a potentially toxic bacterial infection, is 4 times more common in homosexual than heterosexual men.5
According to another study, the "prevalence of EBV type 2 [the Epstein-Barr type 2 virus] among homosexual men was significantly higher than it was among heterosexual men (39% vs. 6%)."6 (That virus causes infectious mononucleosis and is associated with two types of cancer: Burkitt's lymphoma and nasopharyngeal carcinoma.)
And other studies have found abnormally high rates of hepatitis B infection,7 hepatitis A infection,8 prostate cancer,9 colitis, enteritis, proctitis, and proctocolitis10 in homosexual men.
In 1997 a writer for the pro-homosexual New York Times noted that a young male homosexual in America has about a 50% chance of getting H.I.V. by middle age, that many homosexuals have abandoned "safe sex" in favor of unprotected anal sex, and that the incidence of gonorrhea rose 74% among homosexuals between 1993 and 1996.11
According to a study by the CDC, in 2002, 88% of San Francisco syphilis cases were found among homo/bisexual men.12
The Chicago Department of Public Health reported that the percentage of Chicago AIDS diagnoses connected to homo/bisexual men increased from 37% in year 2000 to 44% in 2003; and in mid-2006 it also reported that homo/bisexual men accounted for approximately 73% of Chicago syphilis cases for the year 2005.
Regarding lesbians, they face a higher breast cancer risk. One study of lesbians found that: "Sixty-three percent of the lesbians had never been pregnant....[And] Not having children increases a woman's breast cancer risk by between two to six times."13 Not having children also "may be a risk factor for ovarian cancer and may be implicated in endometrial cancer as well."14
Another study found bacterial vaginosis occuring in 33% of the lesbians but only in 13% of heterosexual women, and found that: "Cervical cytology abnormalities were uncommon but only found in the lesbians."15 (Those abnormalities may be precursors to cervical cancers.)
Another study of lesbians found a "relatively high prevalence of the viral STDs, herpes simplex and human papillomavirus [HPV]."16 And according to another: "Genital HPV infection and squamous intraepithelial lesions are common among women who are sexually active with women."17 HPV has been connected to cervical cancer. "DNA analysis has revealed that about 15 types of the virus account for more than 99 percent of all cervical cancer cases."18
(One reason lesbians have a relatively high incidence of STDs is that, as some studies have documented, lesbians have more sexual partners than heterosexual women. For example, a large University of Chicago study concluded that lesbians have four times as many sexual partners as straight women.19)
It should be noted that lesbian sexual diseases have not been researched nearly as much as male homosexual sexual diseases. This is because lesbian sex was presumed to be relatively safe. Some doctors are fairly calling for more research into the health of lesbians. With more study, we may find the "lesbian lifestyle" is not so safe after all.
Another relatively unknown fact: the blood of male homosexuals tends to be so contaminated with various viruses and bacteria that all male homosexuals who have been sexually active since 1977 are barred from donating blood.
Now i know what your thinking your thinking i'm wrong i'm a hatemonger and that i'm complete whacko but the truth of the matter is what kind of people are we? do we have standards of living? how long before we completely break down our moral structure to where there is nothing left of our dignity, thats why we fight for the rights of marriage thats why we fight for the right for freedom of speach when it is being taken away year after year. Did you know that pastors can't preach politics in their pulpits, that if they do their 501c3 non profit statis will be removed from them because officials running for office that were under par from morality were losing votes cause churches were standing up for whats right. where's our freedom of speech? Did you know pastors in Canada can't preach against homosexuality if they do they will go to jail for hate speech. How much longer before that becomes a law here. Homosexuals want all the rights in the world to continue what they want to do and want to take our rights away i'll even give you a prime example. your very own Elton John wants to ban religion. That is the truth of the matter we fight to keep our morals we are against it cause as a whole we need hold a level of morality or all hell breaks loose and then it becomes total anarchy, it starts with these basic principles.
KeeperofKeb
Not sure how to start.
First, Elton John is an ass. I'm a athiest, and I do believe that religion has caused more atrocities then any single other belief in the world, but I wouldn't go so far as to ban it. Not at this point in the human evolution.
That study is a case against Anal sex, not homosexuality; it's silly.
Look. I have learned that it is much easier to convert an athiest but to convert a believer takes an act of god. You either do or do not believe and if you do then it usually takes a pretty big event in your life to convert to a non believer.
Saying that, there is no way I could explain how when you bring religion into the mix it becomes impossible to express belief.
LIke, how do express the concept of marriage in a non union of god type thing. There is no god in there for me. It's a ring, a ceremony, a marriage LISENCE, joint fileing of taxes, but no god. Believers don't see it that way for the most part.
If you can't be convinced of the insignificance of god in marriage there really isn't any way of conincing you that a person is a person no matter what thier sexual orientation, religion, sex, race, or beliefs. It doesn't hurt you, so why should it bother you. It's not possible to convince you.
As far as preachers not being able to preach polotics at the pulpit. The seperation of church and state is meant to keep the infuence of religion out of polotics for reasons just like this, and it should be vice versa. Decisions shouldn't be made with the infuence of any god; decisions should be made on the basis of what is good for the people. There are way to many gods for decision making to be handled like that. And quite frankly if a church doesn't pay tax they should be influencing elections.
Keep in mind however that we both know that religion is embeded in politics and vice versa. Religioues leaders are making donations to campaingns and politicians are making decisions based on thier own godly beliefs.
Also, I'm not really concerned with equal rights and tolerance. People can try to deny me either for any number of reasons but I take what I want and I do what I want anyway so it doesn't really matter. I'm indian, or native american for the pc crowd. I'm not much for protesting or complaining about what I don't have, I just work to obtain it. I know quite a few gay people and I just can't make the comparison to those this thread is about because those who I know just aren't that off the wall. Infact, most of them are far more normal and stable and definitely more productive then I'll ever be. I guess what it comes down to is, people being gay is never an issue for me, because it's just not worth being an issue.
The whole played out nonsense about gay people being immoral, living an unnatural lifestyle, and that they have a choice to be gay or not is really getting old and it's down right laughable at this point. It's unfortunate that people who still think that way waste so much of other peoples time, I mean you can try to ignore them but they're more in your face then any other group I know of.
Edit: I'll add that I'm not a huge fan of that in-your-face crowed either that someone mentioned near the beginning of this thread, but that has a lot to do me being annoyed by most people in general since it's not very hard to get on nerves.
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Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
I wish everyone in the general pub section did that.
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I wish everyone in the general pub section did that.
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Which MMORPG should I play next?"
"I'm not religious at all and don't really have a grasp on morality.
Why do people bring up religion on issues of morality?"
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
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Same reasons as everyone else.
Gays are very promiscuous, much more so than heterosexuals. Aids originally prospered in the Gay community and was passed on to the heterosexual community by bisexuals.
Gays make a mockery of social traditions like marriage, family, religion, which provide stable foundations for society.
The Gay community promotes an image of flamboyant, outrageous freaks in San Francisco and in Hollywood like Rosie O'Donnell.
Being that gays can't marry, start a legitimate family, and are considered sinners by the majority of religions, I don't see how they can make a mockery of such things. Now heterosexuals on the other hand, I'd think today's divorce rates and broken homes make much more of a mockery of the married/family life.
Both the gay and straight community probably promote non-PC things. You seem to single out gay people and make heterosexuals look like saints.
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Wise ass.....ROFLHatred of gays/lesbians mainly stems from the media, when you see something about gays/lesbians on TV its mainly stereotypes, like a butch lesbian wearing mens clothes or your typical prissy gay. I bet 90% of gay/lesbian haters have never even talked to or met a homosexual, they simply cannot stand seeing these 'un-normal' people and it frightens them.
In my personal oppionion whilst I dont 'hate' gays, homosexual sex disturbs me, it seems like a false sense of masculinity... the thought of one bloke treating another bloke like a woman I guess.
On the other hand hot lesbians are a major turn on for me, I dont ever watch porn thats not lesbian, the only dick I ever want to see is my own.. yeah I guess im fucked up..
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I'm trying to decide which is more ironic
1. The Eric Cartman avatar
2. An entire post whose premise is "this ill-defined group of people I don't understand is wrong" and then ending it with "So to finish off, I believe people should learn to be more accepting."
See, your title is phrased as a question. But your post is all "you're wrong, you're wrong, I'm smarter and better than you and you're wrong." And these things tend to reach out to people who already agree with you, and you all have rallys about how much better you are then everyone else, and some real solid group-think sets in.
You really want to understand why people think a certain way? Find someone who thinks that way (not me on this issue btw) and listen to them. Then find another and listen again. When you understand their point so well that you can put it better than they can, then you're in a position to start showing how it's wrong. Otherwise it's just inane rambling.
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Well it's human nature to think about sex. There are many studies that prove that.
Topics like this conjure that image for a moment unfortunately. It sickens me.
Well it's human nature to think about sex. There are many studies that prove that.
Topics like this conjure that image for a moment unfortunately. It sickens me.
I find the thought of two guys a little nausiating myself too, but then again I also don't like the image of quite a lot of heteros having sex either. I certainly wouldn't pass any laws which tried to prevent ugly people, or old people or my parents from having sex with eachother on the basis of what I find distasteful to imagine, nor a law that persecutes them in any way for doing so, and neither would I for gay sex.the difference between you and I is that I believe that there is Right and Wrong, Moral and Immoral practices that are dictated by my beliefs in God. You don't have those beliefs so your not guided by anything except your fleshly instinct. My point of view is if God sees it as wrong then its wrong, homosexuality is perverse it takes the love for a man and a woman and an intimacy that is supposed to be sacred and turns it into an abomination against the foundation upon which relationships were made and that just because you or someone else thinks its right doesn't make it right for them its still wrong. The fact of the matter is we are created beings, we have a God that wants a relationship with us, he gives us rules to live by not because he's evil but because he loves us, Sin is the road to death when we (christians) preach that homosexuality is wrong we are delivering what God is saying to the people from his word, although i admit some preachers do it hatefully it should never be done that way. I understand there are people here that don't uphold to these beliefs but just because you don't believe them doesn't make you right, you're still wrong. I"ll give you a basic example there are many truths in this world that are absolutes like the sky is blue or 2+2=4 or and object in motion tends to stay in motion. We (christians) have truths like this that are immoveable,unchanging that are very precise and distinct. Now someone else comes along with a perverted sense of perception and says the sky is Red! no 2+2=5 or objects don't stay in motion when in motion. What has happened within our society is men are born knowing right from wrong but lust after the things of the world and do those things violating their consciousness until they can't tell right from wrong anymore and choose to live in them and love them. All christians are doing is trying to help those that sit in darkness trying to show the path to truth and salvation and if they choose not to except it, then thats their own choice but there is one ultimate judge who has to judge all the sins of the world and ultimately justice has to be served and God is giving mankind a chance at Grace and Mercy and Restoration, that my friend is why we preach.
KeeperofKeb
But if God made human beings in his image, and some of us are gay, wouldnt that mean that god is gay? They kinda did that in South Park this week, but still it is a question I wouldnt mind watching you weasel out of.
You [KeeperofKeb] say:
"All christians are doing is trying to help those that sit in darkness trying to show the path to truth and salvation and if they choose not to except it, then thats their own choice but there is one ultimate judge who has to judge all the sins of the world and ultimately justice has to be served and God is giving mankind a chance at Grace and Mercy and Restoration, that my friend is why we preach."
Well, maybe your intent is ostensibly the salvation of those you preach to but what you really do is spread hatred towards gays which results in things like gay bashing and extraordinarily high suicide rates among teenage homosexuals. The truth is your type just use Christianity to justify the fact that you are hateful bigots. If you were a real Christian you'd be aware of such things as "Judge not lest ye be judged," and "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." You'd also know that Jesus would be appalled by the fact that you harbor such hatred and if there is infact a final judgement where you stand before God and have to account for all of your actions on Earth... you, not the gays, will be the one cast into the lake of fire.
Fear and ignorance.
Oh, and a big FU to any God talk. By definition god is PERFECT. Everything and nothing, gayer than a tree full of Elton Johns. If anything was made in His/Her/MonkeyRhinoAmoeba's image, it would look like everything and nothing.
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