Originally posted by Gildedone Like i said before it would need to make sardukar and Freemen a hard class to attain. Just like in the book not everyone can just be a freemen or sardukar or benne gesserit. Takes training
We're not talking the BUDS Seal training here. Something like half the people that are "trained" to be Sardaukar die on Salusa Secundus.
I mean, who are you going to reward with being the best fighters in the galaxy, just for starters? How are you supposed to unlock the Fremen class? A long grind? Farming PVP accomplishments? A quest?
Plus, all the Fremen were addicted to the spice. You'd need to have a constant supply of it to keep living. How much is it going to cost you to ship the most expensive commodity in the galaxy through the spacing guild monopoly? Paul could've done it because he could destroy the spice and so had an ultimate hold over the guild.
And, of course, both the Fremen and the Sardaukar mostly did what Muad'dib or the Sublime Padishah Emperor told them to, respectively.
I just think it is unworkable as a game mechanic while remaining true to the source. Unless people are willing to play normal fighters and other galactic denizens.
Seeing how ALL of the other high profile IPs have been butchered I've become only lukewarm to the idea...
I would play a Dune MMOG...but if I had a choice I would rather have a Cyberpunk MMOG instead...something like Ghost in the Shell or an Anarchy Online II.
I'd rather see Cyberpunk as an MMO too. There are some IPs that should be left alone, and Dune is one of them.
That really depends on what kind of game they would make. Dune and Dune 2 were two completely different games. Dune 2 was really just Warcraft 2 with different graphic, and Dune 2000 wasn't much of an improvement. The final result would decide if I was gonna play it. OP, you only said "MMO" - if the rest of the word was RPG, it would catch my attention, but if it was RTS, then probably not.
Aehm. you playign with fire here, friend.
Dune 2 was the FIRST RTS. it started it all. no RTS before Dune 2. nope, nothing, zip, nada.
Warcraft, Warcraft 2, C&C and the rest all came AFTER Dune 2.
That beside... I've no idea how you could compare Dune 2 to Warcraft 2.... same game with different graphics? uh? compare it to C&C and you would have more of a base, made from the same people and all...
Dune 2 was released in 1992
Warcraft 1 was released in 1994.
Sorry for the interruption, continue on folks
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Yes! Oh god yes! Anything that won't involve elves, orcs or dwarves would be a much welcomed change, and while I haven't read the books, my father is big on Dune and I did see snippets of the movies (the old one and the new one) and it looked very cool. Riding giant desert worms? yes please!
That really depends on what kind of game they would make. Dune and Dune 2 were two completely different games. Dune 2 was really just Warcraft 2 with different graphic, and Dune 2000 wasn't much of an improvement. The final result would decide if I was gonna play it. OP, you only said "MMO" - if the rest of the word was RPG, it would catch my attention, but if it was RTS, then probably not.
Dune 2 came out in 1992 by Westwood Studios, Warcraft 1 was released in 1994 by Blizzard. Warcraft 2 was released in 1995. Westwood later went on to make Command & Conquer, then selling out to EA.
So really saying that Dune 2 was just Warcraft 2 with different graphics is hugely unfair to the creative minds at Westwood.
I am highly influenced by dune as well. We have at least 1 desert world where things start (you as the player). We have corporations, similar to the Houses in concept. One corporate leader even went so far as to Proclaim himself Baron.
A dune mmo. how cool would that be? need i say more?
as long as soe doesn't "publish" it.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
You would have to strip away everything unique and cool about the story and setting to make it even remotely playable in an MMO environment. As was mentioned, it's the whole Jedi dilemma times 4. The whole story is based around a single person who was thousands of years in the making and unlike anyone else in the universe, with supporting characters representing groups of vastly overpowered minorities, none of whom could be represented in a playable fashion. Not only would the final product NOT be Dune, but it would suck ass. Filthy, unwashed ass.
Um wait, we already have a dune MMOG. It's called Anarchy Online.
Sure it isn't Dune exactly. But it's a scifi MMOG thats a mix of Dune and Star Wars. You have your arid planet that is the only source of the worlds most powerful and desired substance (in this case, Notum.) It gives strange powers to those who live there, magical abilities, etc. The planet is arid and desert like, it even has giant worms (though instead of riding them, they pop out of the desert and kill you.
There are two factions on the planet fighting over it. The big corporation that owns half the galaxy and wants it all for themselves, and those brought to 'mine' it and through forced labor and terrible conditions, rebeled and now consider the planet their own.
Sure the game is very unique and all it's own. But it's very clearly inspired by Dune.
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Yes, sure, some inspiration there might be (being one of major sci fi series of the 80-90 means you inspired a lot of people) but AO doesn't have much of the feeling of Dune.
It feel more a cyberpunk kinda of games, with cybernetics, enchancement and all the "Big Corp" vs "cyberpunks" feeling.
Dune is a Feudal system in the future. It has an emperor, noble houses, a religious cult (the bene gesserit) that control what they can, a economic guild with monopoly on space travel etc etc.
So yeah, AO is CYBERPUNK, not Dune. Sorry. At least for me.
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look at me I'm downing an mmo before its even put on paper HA!!!!!
actually to be honest it would be kinda cool as long as EVERYTHING FROM THE VERY FIRST MOVIE was included. (meaning the storyline).
oh and btw the remake the movie Dune has to have been one of the biggest bucherings of an original EVER CREATED.
Is there an MMO that out there that isn't affected by Xao Ping Wang and their money grubbing macro bots?
http://wow.stratics.com/content/features/editorials/mf/
Just say no to ingame money/mob farming.... the site says it all
We're not talking the BUDS Seal training here. Something like half the people that are "trained" to be Sardaukar die on Salusa Secundus.
I mean, who are you going to reward with being the best fighters in the galaxy, just for starters? How are you supposed to unlock the Fremen class? A long grind? Farming PVP accomplishments? A quest?
Plus, all the Fremen were addicted to the spice. You'd need to have a constant supply of it to keep living. How much is it going to cost you to ship the most expensive commodity in the galaxy through the spacing guild monopoly? Paul could've done it because he could destroy the spice and so had an ultimate hold over the guild.
And, of course, both the Fremen and the Sardaukar mostly did what Muad'dib or the Sublime Padishah Emperor told them to, respectively.
I just think it is unworkable as a game mechanic while remaining true to the source. Unless people are willing to play normal fighters and other galactic denizens.
I'd rather see Cyberpunk as an MMO too. There are some IPs that should be left alone, and Dune is one of them.
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Aehm. you playign with fire here, friend.
Dune 2 was the FIRST RTS. it started it all. no RTS before Dune 2. nope, nothing, zip, nada.
Warcraft, Warcraft 2, C&C and the rest all came AFTER Dune 2.
That beside... I've no idea how you could compare Dune 2 to Warcraft 2.... same game with different graphics? uh? compare it to C&C and you would have more of a base, made from the same people and all...
Dune 2 was released in 1992
Warcraft 1 was released in 1994.
Sorry for the interruption, continue on folks
"If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"
But I'm tired of seeing movies bastardized into MMO's...
Take the idea, expand it and name it accordingly.
All art is stolen...
You've got a point. It even has Krys Knives... :-p Heh. It'd be better if was ground from the claw of an Emerite.
Dune 2 came out in 1992 by Westwood Studios, Warcraft 1 was released in 1994 by Blizzard. Warcraft 2 was released in 1995. Westwood later went on to make Command & Conquer, then selling out to EA.
So really saying that Dune 2 was just Warcraft 2 with different graphics is hugely unfair to the creative minds at Westwood.
I am highly influenced by dune as well. We have at least 1 desert world where things start (you as the player). We have corporations, similar to the Houses in concept. One corporate leader even went so far as to Proclaim himself Baron.
Click sig, but I'd support a full-on Dune MMO.
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Impossible. Completely impossible.
You would have to strip away everything unique and cool about the story and setting to make it even remotely playable in an MMO environment. As was mentioned, it's the whole Jedi dilemma times 4. The whole story is based around a single person who was thousands of years in the making and unlike anyone else in the universe, with supporting characters representing groups of vastly overpowered minorities, none of whom could be represented in a playable fashion. Not only would the final product NOT be Dune, but it would suck ass. Filthy, unwashed ass.
How do you kill that which has no life?
I would play a Dune MMO. I would be excited to.
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Yes, sure, some inspiration there might be (being one of major sci fi series of the 80-90 means you inspired a lot of people) but AO doesn't have much of the feeling of Dune.
It feel more a cyberpunk kinda of games, with cybernetics, enchancement and all the "Big Corp" vs "cyberpunks" feeling.
Dune is a Feudal system in the future. It has an emperor, noble houses, a religious cult (the bene gesserit) that control what they can, a economic guild with monopoly on space travel etc etc.
So yeah, AO is CYBERPUNK, not Dune. Sorry. At least for me.
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Yes definately.... But
Would it be based on the old great books by Frank Herbert?
Or based on his sons work, Battle for Corrin etc which in a way would make a better mmo.
I dunno, but wife says that I dance without any rhythm....
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