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Vanguard isn't going away
Jerek_
Member Posts: 409
to all the 'VG is dying posts', back that with something real.
to all the 'VG doesn't have 8 million players posts', tell me why I care as a player wether the game has 10 servers or 100 as long as they are populated. I doubt I agree with that many people on anything else, why should I on games?
If your answer involves Brad or Vision- save, because neither I or most people playing the game give a shit about either- while they may come up a hundred times a day here on these forums, I have NEVER seen brad or vision refered to in game, about anything, ever.
different games work for different people, thats obvious, and VG is a awesome game for me.
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Deeper content would of been nice as well . Things like creating a shop, kind of like second life where you could build the physical shop and then build up a inventory and have goods on display in real time. With in that store you could have a thief player come in and try to steal something or you get robbed and you have o track down the robber. Deeper content was what I was looking for, but if I can''t have really deep content then I would rather play something that is a lot of fun, and runs superbly with a very well thought out game concept and design .
Maybe in 1 year I will try Vanguard again , but right now , it just falls below the mark.
who me ?
Im going to sell you a dream.
But really, how much time and money do you think SOE will devote to this, if there is no viable growth in sight? They will milk it until it is dead, but you can't honestly expect any huge growth or significant development $ to go into it if the return isn't worth it.
So yeah, your 10 servers will be there, but it remains to be seen what will be on them.
The irony?
Take your own advice and back your text of vomit up with something 'real'.
All your post said was 'I love Vanguard which makes everyone else wrong when they state their opinions'.
You didn't even state why you enjoy the game.
Sigil's viral marketing team is getting worse.
Currently Playing: Everything but MMORPGs
Cancelled: L2, FFXI, VSoH, LotRO, WAR, WoW
Looking Forward To: SW:TOR
Funny, I've seen plenty of people at various points go through, and list a bunch of bullet points on why they enjoy the game, despite it's bugs.
Shortly thereafter some hotshots with a bunch of X's about their names roll in, and make a post saying nothing more than "I hate SOE, Sigil, and Vanguard, and there is no way that anyone could possibly have an opinion differing from mine, which is clearly the word of God Almighty. ZOMG, Viral Marketing!"
Then some assclown shows up, regurgitating a lame ass joke that stopped being funny before they stole it from the person that originally said it.
Funny, I've seen plenty of people at various points go through, and list a bunch of bullet points on why they enjoy the game, despite it's bugs.
Shortly thereafter some hotshots with a bunch of X's about their names roll in, and make a post saying nothing more than "I hate SOE, Sigil, and Vanguard, and there is no way that anyone could possibly have an opinion differing from mine, which is clearly the word of God Almighty. ZOMG, Viral Marketing!"
Then some assclown shows up, regurgitating a lame ass joke that stopped being funny before they stole it from the person that originally said it.
Yeah it is a lame joke, very lame in fact, fits perfectly with the company it is directed towards imo.
I have never once said I hate SOE, EVER.
This wasn't a post about his opinion on the game. It was just a flame towards 'haters'.
If you start a fire, then you have to expect flames.
If you what say is true, then didn't Brad himself start this lame ass joke?
Currently Playing: Everything but MMORPGs
Cancelled: L2, FFXI, VSoH, LotRO, WAR, WoW
Looking Forward To: SW:TOR
People need to stop comparing apples with oranges. WoW is some lame ass cartoon, and Vanguard is some game too hard for the players of such lame ass cartoon. One is meant for people to log in for 1 hour a day and complete some quests, while only 3-4% of the 6 million+ people will actually play the content that requires a "raid" of 25 people, pfff. While Vanguard is meant for people in ALL stages to log in for many hours a day to become high level in months and not weeks.
Now you kids see the difference? If anything, compare EQ/EQII with Vanguard. But not cartoons with games. Like the guy above said, who the hell cares if the game has 1000 or 5 servers as long as each server is well-balanced and populated without polarizations (horde/alliance). Vanguard players don't need WoW players to complain for them, WoW players need to go back to their cesspool of forums and complain/cry there.
Why single out McQuaid? Not as if he's the only designer that's promised the Sun, Moon, and Stars, only to not deliver.
Bowman, Raph, Jacobs, Garriott, all guilty of the same things.
But for some reason, they're given a free pass, where I'm pretty sure there's more than a few folks here that are rapidly approaching borderline psychosis that would, given the opportunity, relish doing harm to McQuaid personally.
I didn't see one comparison to WoW in this whole thread.
What's wrong? Someone take a dump in your cereal?
I personally think WoW is a very linear game, but it will hold me off until WAR, AoC and Aion.
Since you think your big adult and all, referring to people as kids. You really do set a bad example for how an adult should act.
Can't wait for your awesome adult-like reply.
Currently Playing: Everything but MMORPGs
Cancelled: L2, FFXI, VSoH, LotRO, WAR, WoW
Looking Forward To: SW:TOR
This means it really doesn't matter if Sigil ends up going bankrupt or failing due to Vanguard. The game can just be sold to SOE in order to recoup any losses, and it will still be out there for people to play, just like The Matrix Online.
Pay no heed to the anti-WoW crowd. They're as bad as the Anti-VG crowd.
No amount of reasoned logic will convince them it's only a video game, designed for people to have fun in.
Nor can you convince them the game has depth, if you chose to look for it.
All they can see is stylized graphics, and slag it off as a game for children, nevermind any evidence to the contrary, that a majority of the playerbase is over 20. And there's plenty of old EQ players playing WoW, because they still like raiding, but they don't have 10 odd hours a day to commit to it anymore.
Your 100% right. I am bias towards Sigil, because I havn't been hyped for a game so much before, i'm not what you would call a vet when it comes to mmos. My friends got me into the craze with tibia then a UO private server, WoW being the first mmo I have ever subscribed to.
That made me laugh out loud! I have no doubt that people would in fact want to inflict harm on Brad.
I know I may sound like a full on hater sometimes, sometimes I don't think too much before I speak, but I would like to see this game recover and add some of those features we all read about when this game was being developed (I did buy the game afterall I wouldn't mind installing it again and enjoying myself alot more). I just don't think it will happen.
edit: I don't blame you for calling me a hotshot assclown (lol), I do tend to sound like one, I am sure my age doesn't help. I used to think of you as some kind of fanboi coldmeat, but first impressions are often not too good when it comes to forums. I have a good amount of respect for you now.
Currently Playing: Everything but MMORPGs
Cancelled: L2, FFXI, VSoH, LotRO, WAR, WoW
Looking Forward To: SW:TOR
The difference is that McQuaid blatantly "lied". Not "spinned". "Lied", in order to rob people of their gaming dollars. The jury is still out on Garriott. However, show me where Garriott is hyping up Tabula Rasa like Brad was trash talking before Vanguard came out.
Now I don't mind trash talking. However if you do it you have to back it up. Deon Sanders and Michael Jordan used to trash talk and back it up with their gameplay.
Brad trashed many other games including EQ1 during the time period that led up to the release of Vanguard. What we see is a shell of a 1st generation game that is buggy and barely playable. His trash talk brought a lot of dysfunctional, WoW-hating, Vanbois out of the wood work to support him. Now he is trying to change his tone and say "All Players are Welcome" in order to keep this abortion afloat.
He even recently trashed DDO by Turbine. It is now very interesting to see Turbine getting the last laugh with LoTR. LoTR will outsell VG by at least 5 times. And yes Vanbois, sells do matter. If VG only cost 25k to make and was a free MMO like the one at the bottom of this page it would not matter but VG is a $30 million abortion that will affect our gaming in the future.
The only reason I still find myself playing WoW is because the character animations, and movement were done perfectly. That and I can't get my irl friends to quit playing it. I'm about to turn 23 years old, not trying to say I can't be immature but just putting that out there. I actually enjoy WoW's graphics, but I like any style of graphics as long as they are polished. Those of you who say WoW is for the kiddies would be surprised at what the average WoW player's age is.
And now back to the topic at hand.
This friday I am going out to buy Vanguard. Despite what people on these boards say, whether it be good or bad, I plan to see the game's pros and cons for myself. I typically do that to every game I find. And you know what? Some of those games that were frowned upon gave me months if not years of enjoyment.
To the OP: Play what you like, don't let others tell you how to enjoy your time spent online. If you enjoy it, that's all that matters.
P.S. Granado Espada is going to be a truely great game. I can't wait til it gets released. Finally a game that breaks the mold.
Playing - Minecraft, 7 Days To Die, Darkfall:ROA, Path of Exile
Waiting for -
With Bowman's triumphs of Horizons and AC2, there no way you should be including him in your statement.
Vanguard is the one with monkeys, and not v ery many of them or very smart ones at that! Only so many stupid people could be found to play, hence the 5 servers it will be soon reduced to!
Almost 9 million WoW players laugh at puny Vanguard!
If you have any questions please ask. I have moved on to WoW from eq and no longer have any desire to play a dead game. Thank you. (posted by another selling his account in EQ1)
Vanguard is the one with monkeys, and not v ery many of them or very smart ones at that! Only so many stupid people could be found to play, hence the 5 servers it will be soon reduced to!
Almost 9 million WoW players laugh at puny Vanguard!
Looks like there's plenty of stupid to go round for both games, and then some, I'm sure.
It's like some SpEd episode of Jerry Springer where two trailer trash bimbos, arguing over who's baby's daddy is who, call each other stupid, white trash sluts. Sad thing is they're probably both right, and don't even know it.
You shouldn't really play games (even if it WoW or not) because many others do it.
That is the epeen mentality that actually a few of tries to avoid, how about you?
I'm so broke. I can't even pay attention.
"You have the right not to be killed"
Nothing wrong with this concept except that you can't hold it against VG, very few other games out there have this. WoW doesn't, EQ2 doesn't. All MMOG's out there need deeper content by your description here.
Like I said, plenty of stupid to go around...
http://www.xfire.com/
Have a gander at todays top games, and get back to me on that one.(Here's a hint: Check a fuckin' calendar)
ROFL yep got me! Thats one of the better ones Ive seen today. Oh well. My statement holds true anyway.. I wouldnt take gameadvice/reviews from someone that would spend 22 hours playing Pigs In Space: The Muppets Take Mars .
anyway you shouldnt be so hostile..its not good for your health.
Vanguard doesnt even have the number of subscriptions that sigil had hoped to see. They have mislead alot of people and while vanguard probably wont die, it wont come close to the numbers Brad and Co wanted.
I wonder if you would have liked the game that Vanguard was supposed to be, because that Vanguard and this Vanguard are two very different games.