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biggest vaporware EVAR?

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  • SigneSigne Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,524

    Remember before they changed everything about Tabula Rasa and they were showing pics of unicorns that shot bolts or whatever out of their horns?  I would be amused by Barbie dolls that shot death rays out of their nipples or some evil My Little Ponies. 

  • LeJohnLeJohn Member Posts: 313

    As to the topic...  no it's not. Duke Nukem Forever still holds that spot.  Yes even I had forgotten about it until there was a release of 3 postage stamped screens:

     

    But as its still WID... it's vaporware.

     

    I have been reading on this game today... ok board at work.   What exactly does DF have to offer to the average MMOG player?

  • Tutu2Tutu2 Member UncommonPosts: 572

     I think people need to just let this thing die and be forgotten( I guess it already is.).....people followed Vanguard for years, it was a massive disappointment in every way, and the bitterness and outright outrage of the vast majority who played it is amazing. It really does sound like Darkfall is in alot of trouble but they're keeping it quiet, most likely they were like Vanguard in that they were trying to create something that was way unrealistic for their time and resources. They probably really did want to create somethng that defined the genre...but it probably doesn't actually have half of what it claims to have. I watched the trailer too and thought it was damn amazing, but after hearing its been in development for 7 years with little word on what's happening with it...its pretty suspicious.

  • QuestionableQuestionable Member Posts: 653
    Originally posted by Tutu2


     I think people need to just let this thing die and be forgotten( I guess it already is.).....people followed Vanguard for years, it was a massive disappointment in every way, and the bitterness and outright outrage of the vast majority who played it is amazing. It really does sound like Darkfall is in alot of trouble but they're keeping it quiet, most likely they were like Vanguard in that they were trying to create something that was way unrealistic for their time and resources. They probably really did want to create somethng that defined the genre...but it probably doesn't actually have half of what it claims to have. I watched the trailer too and thought it was damn amazing, but after hearing its been in development for 7 years with little word on what's happening with it...its pretty suspicious.



    Dont be ignorant. Darkfall is far from be forgotten. The game has plenty of time and money so it wont end like up like vanguard. Just another ill-informed player that has no idea of what he speaks of. Look into it yourself instead of just taking the word of a troll.

  • Xris375Xris375 Member Posts: 1,005

    Originally posted by Tutu2


     I think people need to just let this thing die and be forgotten( I guess it already is.).....people followed Vanguard for years, it was a massive disappointment in every way, and the bitterness and outright outrage of the vast majority who played it is amazing. It really does sound like Darkfall is in alot of trouble but they're keeping it quiet, most likely they were like Vanguard in that they were trying to create something that was way unrealistic for their time and resources. They probably really did want to create somethng that defined the genre...but it probably doesn't actually have half of what it claims to have. I watched the trailer too and thought it was damn amazing, but after hearing its been in development for 7 years with little word on what's happening with it...its pretty suspicious.
    Don't trust other opinions that much. Not even mine  Do some research and make up your mind. Here is a little homework for you.

    1). How long has the game been in development ?

    2). How many betadates have been released and broken since the beginning of development ?

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  • chaintmchaintm Member UncommonPosts: 953

     

    Originally posted by Xris375


     
    Don't trust other opinions that much. Not even mine  Do some research and make up your mind. Here is a little homework for you.
     
    1). How long has the game been in development ?
    2). How many betadates have been released and broken since the beginning of development ?



    1. 2001-2004, depending on how you define "how long" , 2001-2004 sense the public was told about it. So 2007 now anywhere from 3 years to 6 all depending on what is used.

     

    2. 3! well ok 2 and almost 3, but the time given for this summers beta release is ummm.. almost over. So it will be 3

    Did I just mess up his home work assignment?

    "The monster created isn't by the company that makes the game, it's by the fans that make it something it never was"

  • QuestionableQuestionable Member Posts: 653
    Originally posted by chaintm


     
    Originally posted by Xris375


     
    Don't trust other opinions that much. Not even mine  Do some research and make up your mind. Here is a little homework for you.
     
    1). How long has the game been in development ?
    2). How many betadates have been released and broken since the beginning of development ?
    1. 2001-2002, depending on how you define "how long" , 2001-2002 sense the public was told about it.

     

    2. 3! well ok 2 and almost 3, but the time given for this summers beta release is ummm.. almost over. So it will be 3

    Did I just mess up his home work assignment?

    If you consider 2 months almost over then i guess so.

    and thats when they were told about it. They did have to restart in 2003. It was premature of them to put up a website before they actually had anything to show.

  • chaintmchaintm Member UncommonPosts: 953

    Originally posted by Questionable

    Originally posted by chaintm


     
    Originally posted by Xris375


     
    Don't trust other opinions that much. Not even mine  Do some research and make up your mind. Here is a little homework for you.
     
    1). How long has the game been in development ?
    2). How many betadates have been released and broken since the beginning of development ?
    1. 2001-2002, depending on how you define "how long" , 2001-2002 sense the public was told about it.

     

    2. 3! well ok 2 and almost 3, but the time given for this summers beta release is ummm.. almost over. So it will be 3

    Did I just mess up his home work assignment?

    If you consider 2 months almost over then i guess so.

    and thats when they were told about it. They did have to restart in 2003. It was premature of them to put up a website before they actually had anything to show.


    OMG Questionable we agree 100% on something! hehe

    Premature to mention anything is a good statement, at this point, it's an up hill battle to convince many of us it is something other then vapor. Only if this was announced later down the road. Oh well, live and learn.

     

    "The monster created isn't by the company that makes the game, it's by the fans that make it something it never was"

  • QuestionableQuestionable Member Posts: 653
    Originally posted by chaintm


     
    Originally posted by Questionable

    Originally posted by chaintm


     
    Originally posted by Xris375


     
    Don't trust other opinions that much. Not even mine  Do some research and make up your mind. Here is a little homework for you.
     
    1). How long has the game been in development ?
    2). How many betadates have been released and broken since the beginning of development ?
    1. 2001-2002, depending on how you define "how long" , 2001-2002 sense the public was told about it.

     

    2. 3! well ok 2 and almost 3, but the time given for this summers beta release is ummm.. almost over. So it will be 3

    Did I just mess up his home work assignment?

    If you consider 2 months almost over then i guess so.

    and thats when they were told about it. They did have to restart in 2003. It was premature of them to put up a website before they actually had anything to show.


    OMG Questionable we agree 100% on something! hehe

     

    Premature to mention anything is a good statement, at this point, it's an up hill battle to convince many of us it is something other then vapor. Only if this was announced later down the road. Oh well, live and learn.

     



    Its already been stated before that they arent the best marketers. Just because they've done some bad marketing doesnt mean the game is in shambles. Though you may think waht you wish.

  • chaintmchaintm Member UncommonPosts: 953

     

    Originally posted by Questionable




    Its already been stated before that they arent the best marketers. Just because they've done some bad marketing doesnt mean the game is in shambles. Though you may think waht you wish.

     

     

     

    Marketing? You mean the bad info given out, the counter-dictions the beta after beta announcements? Ya , bad PR maybe, but marketing? If that is the definition of marketing, I need to go back to college.

     

    "The monster created isn't by the company that makes the game, it's by the fans that make it something it never was"

  • QuestionableQuestionable Member Posts: 653

     

    Originally posted by chaintm


     
    Originally posted by Questionable




    Its already been stated before that they arent the best marketers. Just because they've done some bad marketing doesnt mean the game is in shambles. Though you may think waht you wish.

     

     

     

    Marketing? You mean the bad info given out, the counter-dictions the beta after beta announcements? Ya , bad PR maybe, but marketing? If that is the definition of marketing, I need to go back to college.

     

    You act as if you've never been wrong before. You sit there and try to create misconceptions because that all you can do. So unless you have some actual proof of DF not being true then stop posting. The only thing your proving is that you cant actually fight against it.

    If them being wrong before makes it whatever they say in the future being wrong then that same logic would apply to you would it not? You've been wrong before so then wouldnt that make what your saying right now wrong? You got some mighty fine logic right there.

     

     

  • chefleecheflee Member Posts: 9

    Last time I checked he doesnt have to prove it doesn't exist.  It is illogical to say he has to prove that it doesn't exist.  You, good sir, are the one who has to prove that there is something there.  And, you havent satisfied very many people other than yourself.

  • HeptahHeptah Member Posts: 26

    who cares

     

    it doesnt cost me a thing to hope this games comes out as promised. Its kinda like the lottery, if it happens great if not, no big deal to me.

     

    Also the game is worth it just for forumfall...if nothing else it will be famous for that.

     

    And Warhammer is not going to be a great PvP game. AoC maybe but Warhammer as planned doesnt have any depth to its pvp.

  • QuestionableQuestionable Member Posts: 653
    Originally posted by cheflee


    Last time I checked he doesnt have to prove it doesn't exist.  It is illogical to say he has to prove that it doesn't exist.  You, good sir, are the one who has to prove that there is something there.  And, you havent satisfied very many people other than yourself.

    Oh but i have. Though he doesnt even acknowledge it. When given some evidence wouldnt you say that it exists? Apparently not to him.

    So if he wants to disprove all my evidence hes going to need something factual not just his assumptions.

  • chaintmchaintm Member UncommonPosts: 953

     

    Originally posted by Questionable


     
     
    You act as if you've never been wrong before. You sit there and try to create misconceptions because that all you can do. So unless you have some actual proof of DF not being true then stop posting. The only thing your proving is that you cant actually fight against it.
     
    If them being wrong before makes it whatever they say in the future being wrong then that same logic would apply to you would it not? You've been wrong before so then wouldnt that make what your saying right now wrong? You got some mighty fine logic right there.
     
     

     

     

    Sure I could be wrong, but that is my opinion isn't it? What is bothering you so much is so many have that same opinion. None of us said "we wish DF would just die" we are saying " The DF team should tell the truth", but sense they can't, one can conclude vaporware. Defend it all you want, I have nothing to prove and for that matter you don't as well. The DF team does thou.

    "The monster created isn't by the company that makes the game, it's by the fans that make it something it never was"

  • chaintmchaintm Member UncommonPosts: 953

    Originally posted by Questionable

    Originally posted by cheflee


    Last time I checked he doesnt have to prove it doesn't exist.  It is illogical to say he has to prove that it doesn't exist.  You, good sir, are the one who has to prove that there is something there.  And, you havent satisfied very many people other than yourself.

    Oh but i have. Though he doesnt even acknowledge it. When given some evidence wouldnt you say that it exists? Apparently not to him.

    So if he wants to disprove all my evidence hes going to need something factual not just his assumptions.

    I need nothing at this point, all anyone has to do (as obviously Cheflee has) is read this thread alone and know your not "right" in the head. But that's cool, I will be happy to twist your mind to mud. Keep it coming!

    "The monster created isn't by the company that makes the game, it's by the fans that make it something it never was"

  • QuestionableQuestionable Member Posts: 653

    Originally posted by chaintm


     
    Originally posted by Questionable


     
     
    You act as if you've never been wrong before. You sit there and try to create misconceptions because that all you can do. So unless you have some actual proof of DF not being true then stop posting. The only thing your proving is that you cant actually fight against it.
     
    If them being wrong before makes it whatever they say in the future being wrong then that same logic would apply to you would it not? You've been wrong before so then wouldnt that make what your saying right now wrong? You got some mighty fine logic right there.
     
     

     

     

    Sure I could be wrong, but that is my opinion isn't it? What is bothering you so much is so many have that same opinion. None of us said "we wish DF would just die" we are saying " The DF team should tell the truth", but sense they can't, one can conclude vaporware. Defend it all you want, I have nothing to prove and for that matter you don't as well. The DF team does thou.

    I'm not disturbed by having the same opinoin but i am since you ignore evidence just to stick your opinoins. Dont you think that its a little strange. The truth...funny you should say that. If they were unintentionally wrong then they didnt lie. You seem to think that they purposely lie because you think that you know what their doing? You have alot of opinoins but sadly their based off nothing solid.

    Actually you said this is vaporware no matter what ive shown you. Why? are you truly that skeptical? its getting to teh point of being unreasonable.

  • chaintmchaintm Member UncommonPosts: 953

    Originally posted by Questionable


     
    I'm not disturbed by having the same opinoin but i am since you ignore evidence just to stick your opinoins. Dont you think that its a little strange. The truth...funny you should say that. If they were unintentionally wrong then they didnt lie. You seem to think that they purposely lie because you think that you know what their doing? You have alot of opinoins but sadly their based off nothing solid.
     
    Actually you said this is vaporware no matter what ive shown you. Why? are you truly that skeptical? its getting to teh point of being unreasonable.

    Ah again throwing the evidence in our face, you seem tol bypass all the information provided in this thread. Keep it coming , your on a role!

    "The monster created isn't by the company that makes the game, it's by the fans that make it something it never was"

  • daarcodaarco Member UncommonPosts: 4,276

    Why have there become so many carebears here in the DF forum so suddently? Most gamers just walk it off.....many have been waiting since 2000. The DF devs played MMOs back then.....and they talked about DF. Things take time to create. Aventurine is not Blizzard.

    Now all just ¤#"¤* about "when is it released?", c´mon......talk about the game instead

    Worst part is: people tend to whine even more after every DF update?? The devs want a beta, the players want a beta, the "publisher " want a beta.....so whats the problem??

    Yeah...i know i cant decide what people should #"¤#* about.......

     

  • QuestionableQuestionable Member Posts: 653
    Originally posted by chaintm


     
    Originally posted by Questionable


     
    I'm not disturbed by having the same opinoin but i am since you ignore evidence just to stick your opinoins. Dont you think that its a little strange. The truth...funny you should say that. If they were unintentionally wrong then they didnt lie. You seem to think that they purposely lie because you think that you know what their doing? You have alot of opinoins but sadly their based off nothing solid.
     
    Actually you said this is vaporware no matter what ive shown you. Why? are you truly that skeptical? its getting to teh point of being unreasonable.

     

    Ah again throwing the evidence in our face, you seem tol bypass all the information provided in this thread. Keep it coming , your on a role!

    No i looked at it but you know what it is? All assumptions and sadly that isnt evidence. If you have nothing more to add then why you still here?

  • Demz2Demz2 Member Posts: 435

    SWEET JESUS, i just got an email from darkfall forums, saying i have been accepted into Beta testing.

     

    Omg omg omg, i cant breathe wtf wtf.  slap me i must be dreaming.

     

    Betais now started gogogo sign up and join the mad pvp fun

  • QuestionableQuestionable Member Posts: 653
    Originally posted by Demz2


    SWEET JESUS, i just got an email from darkfall forums, saying i have been accepted into Beta testing.
     
    Omg omg omg, i cant breathe wtf wtf.  slap me i must be dreaming.
     
    Betais now started gogogo sign up and join the mad pvp fun

    Your just a troll and not a very good one at that.

  • Demz2Demz2 Member Posts: 435

    Originally posted by Questionable

    Originally posted by Demz2


    SWEET JESUS, i just got an email from darkfall forums, saying i have been accepted into Beta testing.
     
    Omg omg omg, i cant breathe wtf wtf.  slap me i must be dreaming.
     
    Betais now started gogogo sign up and join the mad pvp fun

    Your just a troll and not a very good one at that.

    When Vaporfall being released again?

  • QuestionableQuestionable Member Posts: 653
    Originally posted by Demz2


     
    Originally posted by Questionable

    Originally posted by Demz2


    SWEET JESUS, i just got an email from darkfall forums, saying i have been accepted into Beta testing.
     
    Omg omg omg, i cant breathe wtf wtf.  slap me i must be dreaming.
     
    Betais now started gogogo sign up and join the mad pvp fun

    Your just a troll and not a very good one at that.

     

    When Vaporfall being released again?

    As soon as you get intelligence.

  • Demz2Demz2 Member Posts: 435

    Originally posted by Questionable

    Originally posted by Demz2


     
    Originally posted by Questionable

    Originally posted by Demz2


    SWEET JESUS, i just got an email from darkfall forums, saying i have been accepted into Beta testing.
     
    Omg omg omg, i cant breathe wtf wtf.  slap me i must be dreaming.
     
    Betais now started gogogo sign up and join the mad pvp fun

    Your just a troll and not a very good one at that.

     

    When Vaporfall being released again?

    As soon as you get intelligence.

    Should be out already then

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