What you wear tells others how well you play. In every other MMOs that is not case.
Not true to the extent that in any gear-centric game(EQ, DAoC, WoW, etc) your gear is going to show where you are, progression wise. Or it's going to show you as a twink, depending on how heavy handed the game is with BoE/BoP or TLC.
As far as defining a players worth by their gear, gonna disagree there as well. If I had a dime for every time I grouped with some tool with high end gear that couldn't find their ass with both hands and a map, I wouldn't be playing MMO's, I'd be able to buy my own MMO. Maybe you soloed your way through the particular quest line in question, but there's no way to differentiate between someone that did it solo, 5 levels below the quest level, and someone that brought 30 friends and zerged their way through the quest.
You prove my point, about every MMOs out there, having top gear doesnt meant anything, any idiot can have them.
You make no sence... every game ihas an artficial difficutly. In VG i decide how I play, if i take risks then my rewards are better then those that do not.
Sorry, but it is YOU who make no sense.
One time you tell me that you like how you can solo higher level stuff in VG, that it makes the game "unique" gameplay wise, and the other time you tell me that you can do that in every game on the market. So please make up your mind.
Originally posted by Coldmeat What makes FoH better than Family Guild #11231320984, or even wannabe uber guild #12412 isn't skill. The guys in FoH are more dedicated, and most importantly, exhibit better teamwork than the average group. They may well be "skilled" players, but that boils down to experience. The guys in FoH aren't somehow genetically better at EQ/WoW/Whatever than the guys in Afterlife, Permafrost, Legacy of Steel, or even the random PUG. Beethoven, or Mozart, had skill aka talent. All the practice, lessons, etc, will not put you on the same playing field as musicians such as them. If a player were willing to put in the time, and energy, they could be just as good, reaction time aside, as anyone from FoH, et all.
Again you dont understand. In the real world not everyone can be what they desire, they can only be what they can be, no more or less. The factors that control what person will be is endless. MMOs are no differant. Like the real world, if your a lazy player, and i use that word losely. Your not going to do well. VG is a game for those that want something more, BTW like in the real world, we have tons of idiots running around playing MMOs, in VG they dont last long. Hence why we have haters, its a game not meant for them.
I don't think it's me with the problem understanding, chief. Let me break it down for ya.
In MMO-land, there's things called hard caps. I.E. You can only achieve level X, or have so much of a given stat, achieve a certain dps, or parry, block, etc, percent. Your fireball will only every do X amount of damage, and so forth.
In the really real world, people don't have such caps. Yes, there is technically an upward limit to how fast a human can run, or how much they can lift, and so forth, but that boundary is always being pushed, records being broken as humans evolve. The laws of physics notwithstanding, there aren't limits to what we can achieve in the real world like there are in a video game.
You're comparing apples and oranges. More than that, you're trying to piss on my head, and tell me it's raining.
Originally posted by Yarisagos Originally posted by Coldmeat
Originally posted by Yarisagos What you wear tells others how well you play. In every other MMOs that is not case.
Not true to the extent that in any gear-centric game(EQ, DAoC, WoW, etc) your gear is going to show where you are, progression wise. Or it's going to show you as a twink, depending on how heavy handed the game is with BoE/BoP or TLC. As far as defining a players worth by their gear, gonna disagree there as well. If I had a dime for every time I grouped with some tool with high end gear that couldn't find their ass with both hands and a map, I wouldn't be playing MMO's, I'd be able to buy my own MMO. Maybe you soloed your way through the particular quest line in question, but there's no way to differentiate between someone that did it solo, 5 levels below the quest level, and someone that brought 30 friends and zerged their way through the quest. You prove my point, about every MMOs out there, having top gear doesnt meant anything, any idiot can have them.
Is English not your first language? Seriously.
Because you said, as I quoted, that the quality of ones gear defines how good of a player they are. I said that no, it just means they just have that gear, that it's not indicative of whether they're a good or bad player, and then you come back and say I proved your point?
Comments
Not true to the extent that in any gear-centric game(EQ, DAoC, WoW, etc) your gear is going to show where you are, progression wise. Or it's going to show you as a twink, depending on how heavy handed the game is with BoE/BoP or TLC.
As far as defining a players worth by their gear, gonna disagree there as well. If I had a dime for every time I grouped with some tool with high end gear that couldn't find their ass with both hands and a map, I wouldn't be playing MMO's, I'd be able to buy my own MMO. Maybe you soloed your way through the particular quest line in question, but there's no way to differentiate between someone that did it solo, 5 levels below the quest level, and someone that brought 30 friends and zerged their way through the quest.
You prove my point, about every MMOs out there, having top gear doesnt meant anything, any idiot can have them.
You make no sence... every game ihas an artficial difficutly. In VG i decide how I play, if i take risks then my rewards are better then those that do not.
Sorry, but it is YOU who make no sense.
One time you tell me that you like how you can solo higher level stuff in VG, that it makes the game "unique" gameplay wise, and the other time you tell me that you can do that in every game on the market. So please make up your mind.
Again you dont understand. In the real world not everyone can be what they desire, they can only be what they can be, no more or less. The factors that control what person will be is endless. MMOs are no differant. Like the real world, if your a lazy player, and i use that word losely.
Your not going to do well. VG is a game for those that want something more,
BTW like in the real world, we have tons of idiots running around playing MMOs, in VG they dont last long. Hence why we have haters, its a game not meant for them.
I don't think it's me with the problem understanding, chief. Let me break it down for ya.
In MMO-land, there's things called hard caps. I.E. You can only achieve level X, or have so much of a given stat, achieve a certain dps, or parry, block, etc, percent. Your fireball will only every do X amount of damage, and so forth.
In the really real world, people don't have such caps. Yes, there is technically an upward limit to how fast a human can run, or how much they can lift, and so forth, but that boundary is always being pushed, records being broken as humans evolve. The laws of physics notwithstanding, there aren't limits to what we can achieve in the real world like there are in a video game.
You're comparing apples and oranges. More than that, you're trying to piss on my head, and tell me it's raining.
Not true to the extent that in any gear-centric game(EQ, DAoC, WoW, etc) your gear is going to show where you are, progression wise. Or it's going to show you as a twink, depending on how heavy handed the game is with BoE/BoP or TLC.
As far as defining a players worth by their gear, gonna disagree there as well. If I had a dime for every time I grouped with some tool with high end gear that couldn't find their ass with both hands and a map, I wouldn't be playing MMO's, I'd be able to buy my own MMO. Maybe you soloed your way through the particular quest line in question, but there's no way to differentiate between someone that did it solo, 5 levels below the quest level, and someone that brought 30 friends and zerged their way through the quest.
You prove my point, about every MMOs out there, having top gear doesnt meant anything, any idiot can have them.
Is English not your first language? Seriously.
Because you said, as I quoted, that the quality of ones gear defines how good of a player they are. I said that no, it just means they just have that gear, that it's not indicative of whether they're a good or bad player, and then you come back and say I proved your point?
Are we having the same conversation here?