You think you pay alot for fuel, over here in the UK it's basicaly £1 a litre for petrol. £1 is almost $2 so imagine having to fill your car on a regular basis with those prices.
Actually, we have been. Not to completely derail this thread, but gas prices in the States have been over $2 a gallon for a while now, and in some places even broke the $3 per gallon mark some time back. Prices have gone up and down lately, but I haven't seen anything under $2 in ages.
Correct me if i'm wrong but a gallon is a lot more than a litre isn't it?
You might be right about that. I don't know the conversion. I DO know that it costs me considerably more to fill up my car, though. I rarely spend less than $40 each time.
Still, this is entirely off topic, so I'll just leave by saying I only wanted to point out that gas prices here have gone up quite a bit. It's definitely not as cheap as it used to be. That's all.
Accually I do have some experience. And a resume from anyone of us tards on this site does mean something cause not one of us here is qualified to even do Smedleys job. Getting my point now? The site you pulled your info from is wrong, not been updated for quite some time, and WRONG. I've already stated that NCsoft was the WORLDS leading MMO producer. The comment I was originally getting at was the, in this country, line that someone, I believe shayde, made. I'm not saying SoE is #1, but I also don't take numbers posted by anyone on this site as accurate. Especially when the people that are posting those numbers make it clear that they have a vendeta against SoE. If you can link numbers given by the game companies themselves then you got something. You can't go by the site you listed, It's well known to be inacurate. If you think Smedley has been losing Sony money for the past decade or so you're crazy.
Resumes have nothing to do with qualifications. In fact, if you follow the news, you will see that in the past few years, many people who have been doing their job for years, are being found to not be 'qualified'. This is because the requirements to get a job, and the requirements to do a job are often incompatible. (As for anyone on this site being mentally retarded... well, please only speak for yourself).
The site that I pulled stats from was updated June 2006. You have not provided any third party stats.. you have simply stated your opinion. The stats provided are what is qualified as 'factual data' rather than simply one persons opinion. If you have a problem with that, not my fault. The site I referred to (where the stats are congregated) does give direct links to the company, as well as provide information about how the numbers were gathered, and the accuracy of those numbers. You may dispute their accuracy, but since you provide nothing better... they are the most accurate source.
I think Sony pays Smedley, and he is therefore an expense. I also think that he generates income for them (with the work he does). I don’t think they have ever done a Smedley balance sheet, nor will they. I think that you suggesting that they would ever do this, is insane.
You DO realize that those numbers are a year old. I hope you do. There's no way in hell SWG has over 100k subscribers. Lineage 2 has grown domestically, and so has CoH.
Smed said about a year ago their total was 500k. I'm sure even at the time he was embelishing.
But if that list is anywhere near correct, it places Runescape and FFX above the combined numbers of $OE. So I guess that knocks them out of the top 5.
Shayde - SWG (dead) Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled - Some deluded SWG fanboi who pities me. I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too. 09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
Smedly is probably the single most worse thing the gaming industry has spawned. Ehh.
Well... I'm not a fan of the guy, but if MMO`s are that big today, it`s a bit because of him.
I never knew he was in charge of Blizzard. Or NC Soft. Or Turbine. Because those companies blow away $OE.
When Smed was considered an "industry leader" games never got more than 200k subscribers. He's a dinosaur who has done nothing for the genre since EQ.
Shayde - SWG (dead) Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled - Some deluded SWG fanboi who pities me. I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too. 09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
Accually I do have some experience. And a resume from anyone of us tards on this site does mean something cause not one of us here is qualified to even do Smedleys job. Getting my point now? The site you pulled your info from is wrong, not been updated for quite some time, and WRONG. I've already stated that NCsoft was the WORLDS leading MMO producer. The comment I was originally getting at was the, in this country, line that someone, I believe shayde, made. I'm not saying SoE is #1, but I also don't take numbers posted by anyone on this site as accurate. Especially when the people that are posting those numbers make it clear that they have a vendeta against SoE. If you can link numbers given by the game companies themselves then you got something. You can't go by the site you listed, It's well known to be inacurate. If you think Smedley has been losing Sony money for the past decade or so you're crazy.
Resumes have nothing to do with qualifications. In fact, if you follow the news, you will see that in the past few years, many people who have been doing their job for years, are being found to not be 'qualified'. This is because the requirements to get a job, and the requirements to do a job are often incompatible. (As for anyone on this site being mentally retarded... well, please only speak for yourself).
The site that I pulled stats from was updated June 2006. You have not provided any third party stats.. you have simply stated your opinion. The stats provided are what is qualified as 'factual data' rather than simply one persons opinion. If you have a problem with that, not my fault. The site I referred to (where the stats are congregated) does give direct links to the company, as well as provide information about how the numbers were gathered, and the accuracy of those numbers. You may dispute their accuracy, but since you provide nothing better... they are the most accurate source.
I think Sony pays Smedley, and he is therefore an expense. I also think that he generates income for them (with the work he does). I don’t think they have ever done a Smedley balance sheet, nor will they. I think that you suggesting that they would ever do this, is insane.
That's weird, cause when I'm going through resumes I'm usually looking for someone qualified to do a job. I know, I know, CEO's are typically industry guys that get thier jobs based on the reputation they build in thier field of expertise, or so the ones I'm personally familliar with were.
Could you direct me to a large company where the CEO is consistantly losing the company money over the course of a few years that is doing well with that guy in charge? Most large companies are publicly traded now I would think, and if the share holders aren't seeing numbers rise then they usually find someone more adept at making money. This I've seen first hand. In fact one company I was involved with had such a bad CEO that they booted him and openly stated that the first person that walked in and offered $8 a share they would sell that instant.
SoE isn't in any financial trouble that I've heard, and the success of a company starts with the guys at top; specifically the one in charge.
Why Sony keeps Smedley around is beyond me. He has to be one of the most clueless execs in the business and everyone knows it.
Maybe because he makes them money?
that's actually true, albeit most here hate his guts, the guy has to make them money or he wouldn't be around. Bottom line, money talks, BS walks.
If you look up any business article on Sony's last year, you'll see that only ONE division made money... and it wasn't $OE.
The father of the playstation "retired". Pretty words for forced out.
Sony is working on housecleaning. Smed better have his resume in order.
Shayde - SWG (dead) Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled - Some deluded SWG fanboi who pities me. I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too. 09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
Why Sony keeps Smedley around is beyond me. He has to be one of the most clueless execs in the business and everyone knows it.
Maybe because he makes them money?
that's actually true, albeit most here hate his guts, the guy has to make them money or he wouldn't be around. Bottom line, money talks, BS walks.
If you look up any business article on Sony's last year, you'll see that only ONE division made money... and it wasn't $OE.
The father of the playstation "retired". Pretty words for forced out.
Sony is working on housecleaning. Smed better have his resume in order.Never know, Smed may own a chunk of SOE by now. Getting replaced might just mean more time with the family. maybe a better punishment for him would be making him wear hawaiin t-shirts to work til he's 65-70 .
See you in the dream.. The Fires from heaven, now as cold as ice. A rapid ascension tolls a heavy price.
Smedly is probably the single most worse thing the gaming industry has spawned. Ehh.
Well... I'm not a fan of the guy, but if MMO`s are that big today, it`s a bit because of him.
I never knew he was in charge of Blizzard. Or NC Soft. Or Turbine. Because those companies blow away $OE.
When Smed was considered an "industry leader" games never got more than 200k subscribers. He's a dinosaur who has done nothing for the genre since EQ.
Strange then that when most people refer to their best experience with an online game, they will either say 1. Everquest ( a SOE title 2. SWG pre NGE (a SOE title) .
Smedly is probably the single most worse thing the gaming industry has spawned. Ehh.
Well... I'm not a fan of the guy, but if MMO`s are that big today, it`s a bit because of him.
I never knew he was in charge of Blizzard. Or NC Soft. Or Turbine. Because those companies blow away $OE.
When Smed was considered an "industry leader" games never got more than 200k subscribers. He's a dinosaur who has done nothing for the genre since EQ.
Strange then that when most people refer to their best experience with an online game, they will either say 1. Everquest ( a SOE title 2. SWG pre NGE (a SOE title) .
Strange that when most people refer to thier worst experience with an online game they will either say,
1: EQ1 (an $OE title).
2: SWG: Post NGE (an $OE title).
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
Thanks, was very handy. I work in business but my, for lack of a better word, expertise is art; so what the hell do I know. I end up learning everything as I go.
Smedly is probably the single most worse thing the gaming industry has spawned. Ehh.
Well... I'm not a fan of the guy, but if MMO`s are that big today, it`s a bit because of him.
I never knew he was in charge of Blizzard. Or NC Soft. Or Turbine. Because those companies blow away $OE.
When Smed was considered an "industry leader" games never got more than 200k subscribers. He's a dinosaur who has done nothing for the genre since EQ.
Strange then that when most people refer to their best experience with an online game, they will either say 1. Everquest ( a SOE title 2. SWG pre NGE (a SOE title) .
Which is actually incorrect. Most now will say WoW.
Shayde - SWG (dead) Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled - Some deluded SWG fanboi who pities me. I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too. 09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
My experience has been that people that play WoW do not like WoW.
I think WoW is very vulnerable to competition at this point, and I think the poster is correct in stating that most people (who started with Everquest and not WoW) say Everquest is their favorite MMORPG. I am one among them. However, I would limit that to Pre-PoP. The flagging, keying, and zerg-raiding as a focus of gaming simply became tedious, predictable, and routine.
WoW was challenged with zerg-raiding, pre-expansion, but tried to remedied that with Burning Crusade. The solution, I am told, was timesink end-game that involved faction grinds in the same dungeon and killing the same mobs. WoW is very vulnerable to competition; if promises made are promises kept for WAR, I think they will absorb considerable share of that market.
It is a reason why I want Vanguard to sustain this momentum of fixing bugs, improving performance, and adding content; I believe there is a considerable market for the type of game that Vanguard has to offer. However, its early release in its atrocious state created a very negative first impression that will take time to recover from.
WoW will lose more people to player turnover than most games have total subscribers. It isn't because of the strength of the competition or the weakness of WoW, but the natural flow over players from games. People change games pretty often. Some come back some don't. For anyone to really challenge WoW it will take a stellar launch with a very solid compelling game.
Most of the people whining about how bad they had things in WoW have never played a Sony game to see what bad customer support or sloppy coding is like. Also, to many people confuse getting bored with a title as being mistreated by a company. Blizzard is pretty solid as far as customer service, free content and balancing. The MMO bar is set really high right now and thats ok by me.
Originally posted by Daffid011The MMO bar is set really high right now and thats ok by me.
Interesting.
I think some would say that it is set quite low; there are daily posts on this very web page mentioning how people are "bored" with their current MMORPGs and looking for something more.
Originally posted by dimmit77 Originally posted by Shayde Originally posted by matraque Originally posted by Enigma Smedly is probably the single most worse thing the gaming industry has spawned. Ehh.
Well... I'm not a fan of the guy, but if MMO`s are that big today, it`s a bit because of him. I never knew he was in charge of Blizzard. Or NC Soft. Or Turbine. Because those companies blow away $OE.
When Smed was considered an "industry leader" games never got more than 200k subscribers. He's a dinosaur who has done nothing for the genre since EQ.
Strange then that when most people refer to their best experience with an online game, they will either say 1. Everquest ( a SOE title 2. SWG pre NGE (a SOE title) . uo
Originally posted by Daffid011The MMO bar is set really high right now and thats ok by me.
Interesting.
I think some would say that it is set quite low; there are daily posts on this very web page mentioning how people are "bored" with their current MMORPGs and looking for something more. People get bored off products/shows/etc. there is no way to get around that but it doesn't mean people find games low quality. For example, LOTRO was well polished, lots of effort put into and very stable at launch. It is reaping the benefits through good sales and good word of mouth. Vanguard on the other hand had a troubled launch and is suffering enough that the company cannot support itself. Thus, I see a trend that the MMO bar is raised. Warhammer has pushed back its release date to polish more as a result of market trends.
A few years ago people would wait around for a game to get fixed after a shaky release. Now they just resubscribe to their previous game or move somewhere else.
My experience has been that people that play WoW do not like WoW.
Welcome to Bizarro world.
Why do they play WoW? College credit? Prison work release?
It's only the highest selling MMO in all existence yet they don't even like it. Their expansion sells 10 times any other MMO yet they all hate it.
There must be some big S&M club filled with people chained to WoW. Masochists? Death Row Inmates?
Shayde - SWG (dead) Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled - Some deluded SWG fanboi who pities me. I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too. 09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
Originally posted by Daffid011The MMO bar is set really high right now and thats ok by me.
Interesting.
I think some would say that it is set quite low; there are daily posts on this very web page mentioning how people are "bored" with their current MMORPGs and looking for something more.
If the bar was set low, then EVERY MMO would have huge initial subscriptions, decent retention
and the player base would be equally distributed. Clearly that is not the case. So the bar must be
set at a place where most MMOs are not able to reach (high) because only a few games garner
that kind of loyalty and subscription base.
Many kids today have short attention spans (products of the "I want it all now, dammit" school).
Nothing holds their attention spans for very long - they want instant gratification. They also want
polished, shiny, and they want it to work on their existing computer out of the box. Now which of
those categories does Vanguard fit ? One could argue shiny but certainly not instant gratification,
polished, running on existing computer, and working out of the box.
Clearly WoW must be doing something that very few other games are doing or the MMO pie would
be divided a lot more equitably. Given enough time, people will get bored of anything. Keeping
several million people entertained for 2.5 years is quite an accomplishment especially when you
consider that there are some games can't hold people's attention for two and a half months.
Addiction does not explain the phenomenon either unless there are multiple millions of people
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Correct me if i'm wrong but a gallon is a lot more than a litre isn't it?
You might be right about that. I don't know the conversion. I DO know that it costs me considerably more to fill up my car, though. I rarely spend less than $40 each time.
Still, this is entirely off topic, so I'll just leave by saying I only wanted to point out that gas prices here have gone up quite a bit. It's definitely not as cheap as it used to be. That's all.
Resumes have nothing to do with qualifications. In fact, if you follow the news, you will see that in the past few years, many people who have been doing their job for years, are being found to not be 'qualified'. This is because the requirements to get a job, and the requirements to do a job are often incompatible. (As for anyone on this site being mentally retarded... well, please only speak for yourself).
The site that I pulled stats from was updated June 2006. You have not provided any third party stats.. you have simply stated your opinion. The stats provided are what is qualified as 'factual data' rather than simply one persons opinion. If you have a problem with that, not my fault. The site I referred to (where the stats are congregated) does give direct links to the company, as well as provide information about how the numbers were gathered, and the accuracy of those numbers. You may dispute their accuracy, but since you provide nothing better... they are the most accurate source.
I think Sony pays Smedley, and he is therefore an expense. I also think that he generates income for them (with the work he does). I don’t think they have ever done a Smedley balance sheet, nor will they. I think that you suggesting that they would ever do this, is insane.
Smed said about a year ago their total was 500k. I'm sure even at the time he was embelishing.
But if that list is anywhere near correct, it places Runescape and FFX above the combined numbers of $OE. So I guess that knocks them out of the top 5.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
I never knew he was in charge of Blizzard. Or NC Soft. Or Turbine. Because those companies blow away $OE.
When Smed was considered an "industry leader" games never got more than 200k subscribers. He's a dinosaur who has done nothing for the genre since EQ.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
Resumes have nothing to do with qualifications. In fact, if you follow the news, you will see that in the past few years, many people who have been doing their job for years, are being found to not be 'qualified'. This is because the requirements to get a job, and the requirements to do a job are often incompatible. (As for anyone on this site being mentally retarded... well, please only speak for yourself).
The site that I pulled stats from was updated June 2006. You have not provided any third party stats.. you have simply stated your opinion. The stats provided are what is qualified as 'factual data' rather than simply one persons opinion. If you have a problem with that, not my fault. The site I referred to (where the stats are congregated) does give direct links to the company, as well as provide information about how the numbers were gathered, and the accuracy of those numbers. You may dispute their accuracy, but since you provide nothing better... they are the most accurate source.
I think Sony pays Smedley, and he is therefore an expense. I also think that he generates income for them (with the work he does). I don’t think they have ever done a Smedley balance sheet, nor will they. I think that you suggesting that they would ever do this, is insane.
That's weird, cause when I'm going through resumes I'm usually looking for someone qualified to do a job. I know, I know, CEO's are typically industry guys that get thier jobs based on the reputation they build in thier field of expertise, or so the ones I'm personally familliar with were.
Could you direct me to a large company where the CEO is consistantly losing the company money over the course of a few years that is doing well with that guy in charge? Most large companies are publicly traded now I would think, and if the share holders aren't seeing numbers rise then they usually find someone more adept at making money. This I've seen first hand. In fact one company I was involved with had such a bad CEO that they booted him and openly stated that the first person that walked in and offered $8 a share they would sell that instant.
SoE isn't in any financial trouble that I've heard, and the success of a company starts with the guys at top; specifically the one in charge.
that's actually true, albeit most here hate his guts, the guy has to make them money or he wouldn't be around. Bottom line, money talks, BS walks.
that's actually true, albeit most here hate his guts, the guy has to make them money or he wouldn't be around. Bottom line, money talks, BS walks.
If you look up any business article on Sony's last year, you'll see that only ONE division made money... and it wasn't $OE.
The father of the playstation "retired". Pretty words for forced out.
Sony is working on housecleaning. Smed better have his resume in order.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
that's actually true, albeit most here hate his guts, the guy has to make them money or he wouldn't be around. Bottom line, money talks, BS walks.
If you look up any business article on Sony's last year, you'll see that only ONE division made money... and it wasn't $OE.
The father of the playstation "retired". Pretty words for forced out.
Sony is working on housecleaning. Smed better have his resume in order.Never know, Smed may own a chunk of SOE by now. Getting replaced might just mean more time with the family. maybe a better punishment for him would be making him wear hawaiin t-shirts to work til he's 65-70 .
See you in the dream..
The Fires from heaven, now as cold as ice. A rapid ascension tolls a heavy price.
Cuff him to a chair, and make him take CS calls for all their games. With no way to disconnect the call.
I never knew he was in charge of Blizzard. Or NC Soft. Or Turbine. Because those companies blow away $OE.
When Smed was considered an "industry leader" games never got more than 200k subscribers. He's a dinosaur who has done nothing for the genre since EQ.
Strange then that when most people refer to their best experience with an online game, they will either say 1. Everquest ( a SOE title 2. SWG pre NGE (a SOE title) .
I never knew he was in charge of Blizzard. Or NC Soft. Or Turbine. Because those companies blow away $OE.
When Smed was considered an "industry leader" games never got more than 200k subscribers. He's a dinosaur who has done nothing for the genre since EQ.
Strange then that when most people refer to their best experience with an online game, they will either say 1. Everquest ( a SOE title 2. SWG pre NGE (a SOE title) .
Strange that when most people refer to thier worst experience with an online game they will either say,
1: EQ1 (an $OE title).
2: SWG: Post NGE (an $OE title).
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
CS Lewis
Hes the president of SoE. Easier to type CEO over and over then to keep typing president.
Is there a CEO and a president of a company? I know the guy at the top of the company I work for is the CEO as well as the owner.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_officer thought this might help you out a littleHes the president of SoE. Easier to type CEO over and over then to keep typing president.
Is there a CEO and a president of a company? I know the guy at the top of the company I work for is the CEO as well as the owner.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_officer thought this might help you out a little
hehe funny picture indeed
But anyway nice pic with the text really made me rofl
Hes the president of SoE. Easier to type CEO over and over then to keep typing president.
Is there a CEO and a president of a company? I know the guy at the top of the company I work for is the CEO as well as the owner.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_officer thought this might help you out a littleThanks, was very handy. I work in business but my, for lack of a better word, expertise is art; so what the hell do I know. I end up learning everything as I go.
I never knew he was in charge of Blizzard. Or NC Soft. Or Turbine. Because those companies blow away $OE.
When Smed was considered an "industry leader" games never got more than 200k subscribers. He's a dinosaur who has done nothing for the genre since EQ.
Strange then that when most people refer to their best experience with an online game, they will either say 1. Everquest ( a SOE title 2. SWG pre NGE (a SOE title) .
Which is actually incorrect. Most now will say WoW.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
I think WoW is very vulnerable to competition at this point, and I think the poster is correct in stating that most people (who started with Everquest and not WoW) say Everquest is their favorite MMORPG. I am one among them. However, I would limit that to Pre-PoP. The flagging, keying, and zerg-raiding as a focus of gaming simply became tedious, predictable, and routine.
WoW was challenged with zerg-raiding, pre-expansion, but tried to remedied that with Burning Crusade. The solution, I am told, was timesink end-game that involved faction grinds in the same dungeon and killing the same mobs. WoW is very vulnerable to competition; if promises made are promises kept for WAR, I think they will absorb considerable share of that market.
It is a reason why I want Vanguard to sustain this momentum of fixing bugs, improving performance, and adding content; I believe there is a considerable market for the type of game that Vanguard has to offer. However, its early release in its atrocious state created a very negative first impression that will take time to recover from.
Most of the people whining about how bad they had things in WoW have never played a Sony game to see what bad customer support or sloppy coding is like. Also, to many people confuse getting bored with a title as being mistreated by a company. Blizzard is pretty solid as far as customer service, free content and balancing. The MMO bar is set really high right now and thats ok by me.
Interesting.
I think some would say that it is set quite low; there are daily posts on this very web page mentioning how people are "bored" with their current MMORPGs and looking for something more.
I never knew he was in charge of Blizzard. Or NC Soft. Or Turbine. Because those companies blow away $OE.
When Smed was considered an "industry leader" games never got more than 200k subscribers. He's a dinosaur who has done nothing for the genre since EQ.
Strange then that when most people refer to their best experience with an online game, they will either say 1. Everquest ( a SOE title 2. SWG pre NGE (a SOE title) .
uo
Interesting.
I think some would say that it is set quite low; there are daily posts on this very web page mentioning how people are "bored" with their current MMORPGs and looking for something more. People get bored off products/shows/etc. there is no way to get around that but it doesn't mean people find games low quality. For example, LOTRO was well polished, lots of effort put into and very stable at launch. It is reaping the benefits through good sales and good word of mouth. Vanguard on the other hand had a troubled launch and is suffering enough that the company cannot support itself. Thus, I see a trend that the MMO bar is raised. Warhammer has pushed back its release date to polish more as a result of market trends.
A few years ago people would wait around for a game to get fixed after a shaky release. Now they just resubscribe to their previous game or move somewhere else.
Why do they play WoW? College credit? Prison work release?
It's only the highest selling MMO in all existence yet they don't even like it. Their expansion sells 10 times any other MMO yet they all hate it.
There must be some big S&M club filled with people chained to WoW. Masochists? Death Row Inmates?
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
Why do they play WoW?
Seriously, Shayde, ask them. It is "bizarro world," I agree.
Some are just addicted. See www.mmoabc.com/a_8a8a8ae4124611c901127a14fd1f003a.htm
It's a glorified chat room.
I miss the good ol' days when nerds were actually intelligent.
Interesting.
I think some would say that it is set quite low; there are daily posts on this very web page mentioning how people are "bored" with their current MMORPGs and looking for something more.
If the bar was set low, then EVERY MMO would have huge initial subscriptions, decent retention
and the player base would be equally distributed. Clearly that is not the case. So the bar must be
set at a place where most MMOs are not able to reach (high) because only a few games garner
that kind of loyalty and subscription base.
Many kids today have short attention spans (products of the "I want it all now, dammit" school).
Nothing holds their attention spans for very long - they want instant gratification. They also want
polished, shiny, and they want it to work on their existing computer out of the box. Now which of
those categories does Vanguard fit ? One could argue shiny but certainly not instant gratification,
polished, running on existing computer, and working out of the box.
Clearly WoW must be doing something that very few other games are doing or the MMO pie would
be divided a lot more equitably. Given enough time, people will get bored of anything. Keeping
several million people entertained for 2.5 years is quite an accomplishment especially when you
consider that there are some games can't hold people's attention for two and a half months.
Addiction does not explain the phenomenon either unless there are multiple millions of people
with an addiction (which seems very unlikely).
I agree, but I am not sure these kids with short attention spans are responsible for raising the bar.
EDIT: In fact, some might say they are responsible for lowering it.