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WoW - I never thought I would find a place where u can actually say what u want about game without the makers banning u if its not positive. Here ppl can tell the truth about WoW and tbh the truth isn't pretty.
IMHO Blizzard have ruined WoW in the latest 5 months or so. They have taken pretty much everything that made the game what it was and changed it around. No special classes as horde or Alliance. 2 years of 40 man raid content ruined in 2 weeks long before TBC ever came out. And now a patch that is ruining the rest with a last ditch effort to balance a Expansion that was put out without fully tested.
TBC had so much potentials.. but it actually brought nothing new to the game. Absolutly nothing. For me its just a proof that its time to move on and find something new and exiting in a diffrent game.
WoW is over !
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Yes m8 - Im sure
I've played all the content - Ive grinded all the rep - Ive raided all current bosses.
I think I can give fair verdict.
A good game builds up on the current content that is already in the game - TBC doesn't do that. It destroyes everything the game was build on in the first place. Now thats poor expansion if u ever see one.
Read what the poster above u said...
Then u may see whats happening with WoW
Sorry m8 - obviously u have no idea what I was talking about
Are u serious that any1 should be whining cause tier2 and tier 3 sets are absolete ? lal
U got any tier 5 yet ?
What a joke
WoW has very limited code engine to add new stuff into the game like TBC has proved. U whould have thought new content would bring something new other than diffrent sized monsters or bosses using same graphic. Nah. But lets see where WoW is in 2 years time. Doubt 8 million subscripers will wait 2 years for another Expansion that was nothing more than the advertisment.
Your assuming that your perspective is shared by the majority which it is not - go check the stats on casual vs hardcore gamer populations and come back.
As for "builds up on current content" that is a fallacy as well. First, 40 man raids were simply past the threshold for most guilds and therefore most PLAYERS to support. So what Blizzard was effectively doing was to exclude a large potion of their playerbase from end game content.
What do you think the impact of excluding the majority of your playerbase from end game content would be?
By making raids much more accessible and providing alternate means of obtaining competetive end game gear (arena's, much more reasonable rep grinding, improved crafting, etc), Blizzard has not only corrected a mistake in making raids too large (25 is still high imo, but at least its sane) - but they have also created not one but many alternate paths to pursue in advancing your character, remaining competetive and allowing you to play the game as you like while still achieving "epic" results .
As a player who has experienced some raiding, I simply am not interested in > 10 man raids now. I work for a living and have no interest in staying up at all hours of the night listening to a bunch of tweens hit on the only chick in a raid and tell one another how they should be playing the game.
I'd rather go smash them in the arena with my own crafted lunar crescent!
Always nice to see that ppl can post maturly
The logic this person is bringing into this discussion has pretty much been proven worthless with such comments
Always nice to see that ppl can post maturly
The logic this person is bringing into this discussion has pretty much been proven worthless with such comments
you're the one here whining about the game being ruined yet you'll be logging in later on amirite?i look forward to hearing the repsonces to that last statement lol.
The arena has same limitations as other pvp content in WoW - I admit its nice feature but it has limited lifetime and will have pretty much same ending as the other pvp content.
All knew from the start that 40 ppl raids were way over the top - If only some1 would have been listening from BLizzard.
The same is happening now - they are changing stuff without talking to players and see what they are after in the game.
The new races did actually bring nothing new into WoW other than remove a nice feature from the orginal where diffrent classes were on each side.
Always nice to see that ppl can post maturly
The logic this person is bringing into this discussion has pretty much been proven worthless with such comments
you're the one here whining about the game being ruined yet you'll be logging in later on amirite?No m8 - My subscription ran out 2 weeks ago
Im now playing LOTRO with most of my former WoW m8ts. Then we probably move on to Age of Conan cause it has strong guild based material. Sadly it seems like LOTRO doesn't have much raiding ability.
The arena has same limitations as other pvp content in WoW - I admit its nice feature but it has limited lifetime and will have pretty much same ending as the other pvp content.
All knew from the start that 40 ppl raids were way over the top - If only some1 would have been listening from BLizzard.
The same is happening now - they are changing stuff without talking to players and see what they are after in the game.
The new races did actually bring nothing new into WoW other than remove a nice feature from the orginal where diffrent classes were on each side.
well as 40man may be over the top i belive that molten core was the most played instance back in the day. sadly dont have the stats on it anymore but im sure you can google it. As for the arena comment not lasting. lets face it ur just one of these ppl that claim something wont work and if it doesnt you have bragging rights saying "i said that 6 months ago look at me mom im cool n' stuff" and if ur wrong, no one will care as you just get drowned out with the other 100's of ppl bashing the game. peace out this thread is repetitive and bores me!?!?!
Heh i played wow for 6 month i think and maxed every single thing i could.
Anyhow, wow were, was, and will always be a grinding game with the only concern of getting bigger gear to wear and get to the max lvl fast as hell to get it..
And the sad part is that it gameplay style have ruined so many ppl concept of how a game should be. It looks awefull, it's boring past the initial trhill, crafting sucks, raids were like a second job, comunnity were full of a bunch of stupid ppl thinking they were the best around (kids and grown ups, that was just hilarious), calling noob here and there, presuming of DPS (heh at least i sticked a potato in the mouth of those daring to say that this or that can out DPS a mage *ROFL*), presuming on who heals more, who kills faster... who got more DKP's, who get's the control of the guild, for crying out loud it a freaking GAME!!!!! *sigh*. That was the main issue of not getting able to find 40 ppl to run a raid, ---->THE ROTTEN COMUNITY<------.
And yes, Wow is diying, there are no possible thing they could do to draw more ppl in except the words comming from a friend that eventually drag u in.
C'ya, btw it's my opinion (respect it), if u like your wow game keep playing it, if u don't find another thing. I can recommend LOTRO for those who like to role play a game and find some freaking relax after a day of work.
Wow actually has one of the lowest grinding feeling u can get in any MMORPG out there atm IMHO.
I dunno if have played TBC m8 - but if not I hope u can understand that your comment doesn't give much weitght into this discussion.
I dont dissagree that WoW has done great things for the mmo - but now others are taking over where blizzard is failing in their new expansion.
Always nice to see that ppl can post maturly
The logic this person is bringing into this discussion has pretty much been proven worthless with such comments
you're the one here whining about the game being ruined yet you'll be logging in later on amirite?No m8 - My subscription ran out 2 weeks ago
Im now playing LOTRO with most of my former WoW m8ts. Then we probably move on to Age of Conan cause it has strong guild based material. Sadly it seems like LOTRO doesn't have much raiding ability.
yea thats what i figured i just don't get why if someone is done with a game and no longer plays they have to come and bash the game but, its a public forum and if you need to vent i guess theres no place better. i tried lotro also an if you're into raiding like you are i'd say you're gonna get bored fast there its certainly not hardcore. i didn't care for it much myself more of a pvper than a raider anyways and it doesn't really have either.Yes m8 - Im sure
I've played all the content - Ive grinded all the rep - Ive raided all current bosses.
I think I can give fair verdict.
A good game builds up on the current content that is already in the game - TBC doesn't do that. It destroyes everything the game was build on in the first place. Now thats poor expansion if u ever see one.
I agree, all TBC added that was new was flying mounts and Jewelcrafting , 2 new races added with the same classes doesn't work for me.
However I could lived with it all except for the way that TBC did just cause all the original content to be more or less made worthless, TBC wasn't an expansion to WoW it was more like WoW2 with an option to carry over some things from the previous game.
Wow is not evolving its not adding anything new that many other MMORPGS have, instead Blizzard seem totally focussed on PvP, probably because PvP content is a lot cheaper to add, unfortunately the game was not built for PvP and many people do not play the game for PvP.
Molten Core was fun - but that didn't mean everything needed to be 40 man.
Infact I think it would have been even stronger making harder instances with like 20 man raids.
But ur obviously bored
HF in wow