Starcraft was originally worked up as a demo game for Games Workshop by Blizzard to get the rights to the WH:40k IP. After GW turned them down on both Warcraft (Warhammer Fantasy IP) and Starcraft they finished up Warcraft and put Starcraft on a back burner for a couple years. They went back to it later, changed the unit models, and created their own backstory.
Blizzard borrowed alot from Games Workshop and there are many similarities. But the bottom line is Starcraft is one of the greatest RTS games of all time so worrying about who copied who or lack of time to build as much backstory is moot. It will be a great RTS game tons of people will be playing and mastering for years to come. Thats the bottom line.
Expect a Diablo game similar to Guild Wars in the future and eventually a Starcraft MMOFPS either a few years after SC2 or just after SC3 if they feel they need more time to develop some history and wait for WoW to decline.
I was really hoping blizzard came out with a MMO version of Starcraft... You know something new and original like a MMORTSFPS or some crap like that..
But they decided to play it safe... All I can say is BOOO!!!!!
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Well, it's not over yet people. They still are looking for people to develope a next gen MMO. That is still in the works. I do believe all it will be is a graphic update to WoW, which would rock!
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I'd rather have only 3 races that are deep, play completely different and are well balanced then have more races that all play the same or are too unbalanced.
The 3 races in SC are good and deep i agree but they don't come close to the depth of the races in the WH40k games. well first off thats quite funny considering SC is argueably based around 40k and secondly of course there not as deep wh40k has had like 30 years to accomplish there depth where SC not even 10.
Not this old chestnut, age means nothings... are their zerglings in WH? are there Protoss in WH? the only thing both games share are marines... get over it... and go troll else where....please
DoW is a good game I have the original and expansion....but do you realy have to try and start a flame war?
Originally posted by mcharj11
Company of Heroes is an awesome rts, they did really well with the physics. Can't wait for the next Dawn of War game if they have the graphics and physics from COH.
I was addiciated to COH, its the best strategic RTS ive played, BTW SC2 uses havox physics. i wasnt flaming i was just saying sc was the 40k universe in a computer game. are there zerglings in wh? well hmm... what springs to mind termigants in the nids army... there the exact same principle. hydralisks are the warriors of the nids. ok so the models may not be exactly similar but u know its true, try using ur rational side of thinking and u may see sence. there was a later post after yours that sums it up nicely about zerg being nids, terran and marines and protoss being elder.
Originally posted by PunkMonk Holy shit! Working on it since 2003? That's a long time to be working on a game..
I personally can't wait for the custom games that people make for battle.net!
if theres gonna be more dota im gonna be really mad i hate dota. it just sucks. but yeah. people this is mmorpg.com not rts.com please talk about this elswere and dont get me wrong i loved starcraft it got me into online gaming in '99 but this is just sad
This is nothing in my opinion, Blizzard announced a new RTS before WoW was realeased they werent sure the type of RTS whether it was a Warcraft follower or even a SC follower, or a new D2, as of right now SC2 is the only beginning, as WoW is taking the warcraft legacy on and will help interpret that story and what follows, you have D3 to look foward to in a few years.
SC2: This game will work the same as SC1, people will love it, play normal games until a ton of fun custom games are made, the game is broke, or hacks come out, the problem with RTS is, unless custom maps are constantly updated, DOTA, the games die off, basic SC2 play will prolly of the Ladder gameplay, Tournaments just like WC3, but as SC2, continues a new game will release and have that game become the back up on everyones shelfs, do not get me wrong, everyone and I mean everyone will try it once, more then half of them will buy it, half of that will be addicts, half of that will be korean, and so on. Personally blizz is using this as a side ploit as they create something else on the side, D3 was promised to us very soon after D2 expansion realeased, Blizzard, even without announcing or telling any insider information to anyone, has over 50 games thought up. The problem is, what they do is they do in company testing, and idea throwing, in the end 2 games are brought out within a year of each other. Hello SC2, and D3, SC2 will get an expansion the year following its realease or a bit after, soon after that blizz will make an FPS, or console game we will all love.
All in all, we all love blizzard, we are so glad they make the games they make, win or lose we have tried their games, sure WoW will die off, so will other games but me reaching my 30's have picked up SC, or WC2/3 to play with my friends, I play DoTA once a month, and can I say this 99 whirlwind barb, welcome to world of gaming, blizzard will be your guide.
Terrans = Imperial Space Marines both human races, only similarity
Protoss = Eldar both are tech races, only similarity Zerg = Tyranids both are bug races, only similarity
Starcraft was originally worked up as a demo game for Games Workshop by Blizzard to get the rights to the WH:40k IP. After GW turned them down on both Warcraft (Warhammer Fantasy IP) and Starcraft they finished up Warcraft and put Starcraft on a back burner for a couple years. They went back to it later, changed the unit models, and created their own backstory. All speculation, there is not 1 peice of proof ( unless you have a link) that blizzard made warcraft and starcraft and then approched GW.. your just spreading speculation and it serve no purpose other than to mis-inform people.
Why would blizzard if they apparently approched GW with WC in 1994 then make SC in 1998 and approach them again?
Blizzard borrowed alot from Games Workshop and there are many similarities. But the bottom line is Starcraft is one of the greatest RTS games of all time so worrying about who copied who or lack of time to build as much backstory is moot. It will be a great RTS game tons of people will be playing and mastering for years to come. Thats the bottom line. True dat.
Expect a Diablo game similar to Guild Wars in the future and eventually a Starcraft MMOFPS either a few years after SC2 or just after SC3 if they feel they need more time to develop some history and wait for WoW to decline.
The insectoids and humanoids have existed for more than 100 years. It's not like GW invented the idea of an alien race reminding us of insects, nor the idea of aliens having the same form as us, but technologically far more advanced.
SC has some similarieties to W40K, but they honestly aren't that big. There haven't been a law suit so it hasn't been copied. So stop yagging about it.
As a former Star Craft player, like many people interested in this topic, I am extremely excited for this release.
I was at first a bit dissapointed when I found out Blizzard would not be releasing another MMORPG either than WoW, considering playing that since 2005 has taken a toll and i'm pretty WoWed out.
The graphics for this game look amazing, even though I was quite a fan of the original 2-D game play before.
As far as Blizzard is concerned, I really don't like the company.
I have to admit they do release some addicting and history making games though. I do look forward to this release. :]
Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!
This thread is proof positive: the people who post in the off topic forum > the people who post in the pub.
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Terrans = Imperial Space Marines
Protoss = Eldar
Zerg = Tyranids
Starcraft was originally worked up as a demo game for Games Workshop by Blizzard to get the rights to the WH:40k IP. After GW turned them down on both Warcraft (Warhammer Fantasy IP) and Starcraft they finished up Warcraft and put Starcraft on a back burner for a couple years. They went back to it later, changed the unit models, and created their own backstory.
Blizzard borrowed alot from Games Workshop and there are many similarities. But the bottom line is Starcraft is one of the greatest RTS games of all time so worrying about who copied who or lack of time to build as much backstory is moot. It will be a great RTS game tons of people will be playing and mastering for years to come. Thats the bottom line.
Expect a Diablo game similar to Guild Wars in the future and eventually a Starcraft MMOFPS either a few years after SC2 or just after SC3 if they feel they need more time to develop some history and wait for WoW to decline.
Weee another RTS, oh joy...
I was really hoping blizzard came out with a MMO version of Starcraft... You know something new and original like a MMORTSFPS or some crap like that..
But they decided to play it safe... All I can say is BOOO!!!!!
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
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Not this old chestnut, age means nothings... are their zerglings in WH? are there Protoss in WH? the only thing both games share are marines... get over it... and go troll else where....please
DoW is a good game I have the original and expansion....but do you realy have to try and start a flame war?
I was addiciated to COH, its the best strategic RTS ive played, BTW SC2 uses havox physics. i wasnt flaming i was just saying sc was the 40k universe in a computer game. are there zerglings in wh? well hmm... what springs to mind termigants in the nids army... there the exact same principle. hydralisks are the warriors of the nids. ok so the models may not be exactly similar but u know its true, try using ur rational side of thinking and u may see sence. there was a later post after yours that sums it up nicely about zerg being nids, terran and marines and protoss being elder.
if theres gonna be more dota im gonna be really mad i hate dota. it just sucks.
but yeah. people this is mmorpg.com not rts.com please talk about this elswere and dont get me wrong i loved starcraft it got me into online gaming in '99 but this is just sad
SC2: This game will work the same as SC1, people will love it, play normal games until a ton of fun custom games are made, the game is broke, or hacks come out, the problem with RTS is, unless custom maps are constantly updated, DOTA, the games die off, basic SC2 play will prolly of the Ladder gameplay, Tournaments just like WC3, but as SC2, continues a new game will release and have that game become the back up on everyones shelfs, do not get me wrong, everyone and I mean everyone will try it once, more then half of them will buy it, half of that will be addicts, half of that will be korean, and so on. Personally blizz is using this as a side ploit as they create something else on the side, D3 was promised to us very soon after D2 expansion realeased, Blizzard, even without announcing or telling any insider information to anyone, has over 50 games thought up. The problem is, what they do is they do in company testing, and idea throwing, in the end 2 games are brought out within a year of each other. Hello SC2, and D3, SC2 will get an expansion the year following its realease or a bit after, soon after that blizz will make an FPS, or console game we will all love.
All in all, we all love blizzard, we are so glad they make the games they make, win or lose we have tried their games, sure WoW will die off, so will other games but me reaching my 30's have picked up SC, or WC2/3 to play with my friends, I play DoTA once a month, and can I say this 99 whirlwind barb, welcome to world of gaming, blizzard will be your guide.
The insectoids and humanoids have existed for more than 100 years. It's not like GW invented the idea of an alien race reminding us of insects, nor the idea of aliens having the same form as us, but technologically far more advanced.
SC has some similarieties to W40K, but they honestly aren't that big. There haven't been a law suit so it hasn't been copied. So stop yagging about it.
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if theres gonna be more dota im gonna be really mad i hate dota. it just sucks.
Second that. Winter Maul FTW!
As a former Star Craft player, like many people interested in this topic, I am extremely excited for this release.
I was at first a bit dissapointed when I found out Blizzard would not be releasing another MMORPG either than WoW, considering playing that since 2005 has taken a toll and i'm pretty WoWed out.
The graphics for this game look amazing, even though I was quite a fan of the original 2-D game play before.
As far as Blizzard is concerned, I really don't like the company.
I have to admit they do release some addicting and history making games though. I do look forward to this release. :]
Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!
This thread is proof positive:
the people who post in the off topic forum > the people who post in the pub.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
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