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STOP LYING TO ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RonnyRulz
Member Posts: 479
What is with this? 2006-2007 is the year of lying about your video games!
After a multitude of disappointments and outflat lies, on the horizon comes even better promises.......Vanguard! Oh wait, most of the key features will not be in the game, we just happen to forget to tell you....
Vanguard was so hyped, and such a disappointment IN RELATION TO what was promised. I'm not debating if it's a good game or not, I think it is (although I don't play it), but that's besides the point of this subject. The point is that Game Developers keep on promising features that don't happen!!!!!!
Oblivion promised advanced AI. What we really got was just a bunch of scripting!! Nothing like what they talked about.
Vanguard promised a TON of stuff, most which didn't get released, and almost 6 months later the major features still aren't in the game. A.E.S. anyone?
Now I just got Two Worlds (Go European shopping! lol)
This game was hyped bigtime, said it had all these AMAZING features.
I play the game, and the features are not there in any way!!!!! They outflat LIED about everything!!!
Here's a list of features that are heavily exagerated or outflat LIES.
"Oblivion features a groundbreaking new AI system, called Radiant AI."
GROUNDBREAKING? Are you joking? What a lie. I wouldn't even call it AI, it's more like a few scripts. Hardly groundbreaking.
"The Advanced Encounter System is Sigil's answer to instancing in Vanguard: Saga of Heroes. How will the A.E.S. work in the game, and how will it solve the problems previously addressed by instanced content?"
How? IT WONT! Because it isn't implemented into the game!!
You want stunning....no wait...not stunning......REGULAR graphical effects for your bard's music? *Laughs* You're joking right? There are no spell graphics at release! Hahahahaha! Instrument textures too? *Laughs even harder*
-=TWO WORLDS=-
"The real time half-automatic combat in Two Worlds is very dynamic. Lavish visuals and stunning choreography make for exciting and memorable scenes and attract action-hungry players. "
"Spectacular and dynamically choreographed fights. The combat system combines intuitive steering, tactical challenges and movie-like visual experiences."
Read that.......now look at what combat looks like..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVWMy8lYsiU
It's the EXACT SAME ANIMATION OVER AND OVER
Talk about Stunning Choreography and MOVIE-LIKE VISUALS!!!!!!! Because in every good movie, there's only ONE animation for every single attack, no matter where you are, what you're doing, or who you're fighting.
Am I just confused, or are game developers constantly
LYING THROUGH THEIR TEETH?
PLEASE.......... STOP LYING TO ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What about Age of Conan? Gods & Heroes? Warhammer?
Are these going to be more LIES?
Real Combat Engine – Experience Funcom's revolutionary Real Combat engine,
The custom animation system developed for Gods & Heroes: Rome Rising allows you to engage in the most fast-paced, visceral combat of any online game to date.
Next generation Realm vs. Realm game system integrating both PvP combat and PvE quests on the same map in support of the greater war.
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I know every company EXAGERATES their product and feature.....but this isn't exageration.....IT IS LYING!!!!!
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I hear ya.. MMORPGS are going down the crapper. Just have to wait for the one that brings new and fun aspects all the while keeping the addiction. In my opinion features and atmosphere make a unforgettable world.
Serious death penalties makes every close call an adrenaline rush, and every minor achievement a major victory. This alternative rule-set should be in all MMORPGs.
I suggest you go ahead a try taking a couple of these:
Oh......and take all the tablets together, or it won't work
You're right, every company DOES exaggerate their product. Unfortunately, games are no different. Get used to it.
Its called marketing hype...and all games (and most products) do it.
Developers always have a dream they hope to implement, then the cold realities of the business world set in and features get left out.
OP, aren't you a little old to still believe in Santa?
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Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
There's a big difference between EXAGERATING and OUTFLAT LYING.
Sadly, I am already used to the outflat lying of MMO and PC gaming companies. That's why I'm fed up, because I'm TOO used to it. Where is quality? Honesty?
Saying something like, "Revolutionary Visual Combat Animations" and having a game like Gods & Heroes combat animations is EXAGERATING..
Saying the same thing, but for PONG, is OUTFLAT LYING.
Huge difference.
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Saying your drink is "the most" refreshing is one thing if it is dr.pepper, even if it's exagerating or an opinion.
Saying your drink is the best tasting, when it's SEWER WATER, is another thing entirely.
Flamboyant Exagerating and Obsessive Lying are two very different things. Do you understand, or should I repeat it a 10th time? Flamboyant Exagerating and Obsessive Lying are two very different things.
"Viagra cures every form of cancer and tumors."
Play Star Wars Galaxies if you want all the features promised in all the games.
Do not knock it until you try it!
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WoW and fast food = commercial successes.
I neither play WoW nor eat fast food.
Is this sarcastic or serious? I've never cared for SWG, and I've never even read anything about it.
All I've ever heard was horrible things about it.
If anything brings what is promised, I would think it would be Warhammer.
I don't trust microsoft (Age of Conan), and Gods & Heroes is by SOE so I am neutral on that..
I have enjoyed Mythic though. A good company.
/agrees
Is this sarcastic or serious? I've never cared for SWG, and I've never even read anything about it.
All I've ever heard was horrible things about it.
Totally serious! It is only 20.00 bucks, and I bought it because I have the Station Pass. It is my favorite MMO. I am logging in right now after I finish this hardball clip to level my medic. If you want to play as a new guy, message me here and we can play together. I am on the starsider server. I cannot decide: a pint of guiness or a glass of pinot grigio to go with SWG....
Seriously, I am having a total blast (no pun intended) in the game. I might buy the game for some friends of mine.
edit: decided on guiness. Later!
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WoW and fast food = commercial successes.
I neither play WoW nor eat fast food.
Consumers want pretty graphics... not advanced AI... didn't anyone tell you?
i don't see the point of this thread though.
Everything human is all lies and hype.
polticians, food, alcohol, smoking (even fred flintstone endorsed it at one point), war, media, games.
I mean the DvD format was supposed to revolutionalise the way we watch tv, see films from different angles and situations and watch the same film again, from an entirely different prospective.
didn't quite happen like that, funnily enough all those promises are being put into HD-DVD and Blu-ray.
Hmm...
Xbox lied constantly on what was promised, and what we were given. Remember BC, TFLO, Fable... all those games that either died, or turned out nothing like we were promised.
tis the way of the world. nothing will change that.
*throws Halo 2 on the floor* and Bungie said in interviews that they had spent more time on single player than any other game they had done or multiplayer. something about helicopters on fire and ninjas chasing it.
i'm still waiting on that game that was promised, not this pile of single player crap....
Is this sarcastic or serious? I've never cared for SWG, and I've never even read anything about it.
All I've ever heard was horrible things about it.
Totally serious! It is only 20.00 bucks, and I bought it because I have the Station Pass. It is my favorite MMO. I am logging in right now after I finish this hardball clip to level my medic. If you want to play as a new guy, message me here and we can play together. I am on the starsider server. I cannot decide: a pint of guiness or a glass of pinot grigio to go with SWG....
Seriously, I am having a total blast (no pun intended) in the game. I might buy the game for some friends of mine.
edit: decided on guiness. Later!
OMG
i really do love the lies these SWG fanbois love to spread.
Oh yea. Duh! My bad, I forgot. This makes me cry.
*MUSIC*
So true....so true...*tear falls down and cinematically splashes on the ground*
*MUSIC*
Where have all the flowers gone?
Long time passing
Where have all the flowers gone?
Long time ago
*MUSIC*
Caveat emptor.
Perception is Reality.
If that is what they actually say then I can point out this "The custom animation system developed for Gods & Heroes: Rome Rising allows you to engage in the most fast-paced, visceral combat of any online game to date." is a blatant lie. Gunz Online has the "most FAST-PACED VISCERAL combat" to date and probably won't be taken over for a long time.
So yes, they are lying to you... AGAIN.
The old adages, "if it sounds too good to be true it probably is" and "take it with a grain of salt" are best applied to any capitalist corporation.
- Burying Threads Since 1979 -
Yes... as will fanbois.
Some advice:
* You can generally ignore screen shots
* Ignore emotes in videos (horses rearing up onto hind legs, lines of soldiers cheering, facial expressions, and so on)
* The more emotes are used in a video the more skeptical you can be (they have NOTHING to do with common game play)
* Watch videos a couple of times to spot all the BS
*Ignore buzzwords like "revolutionary", "ground breaking", and any other such epic or fantastic claims
* The more buzzwords they use the worse the game is going to be, generally
* If someone tells you that a game is perfect, meets every expectation, and is oh-so-fantastic then that person is a fanboi and can largely be ignored; remember, NOTHING is perfect, and the more that it's made out to be the less it actually is
Good luck.
They have you right where they want you.
As long as the demand is higher than the supply the company is in total control. To change this we (the consumer) have to stop wanting what they are selling.
It's like picking up a girl. You have to give her some attention but pretend you are not interested. Make her work for it. Ask her a few questions then shift your attention somewhere else. Like Dungeon Keeper.
Gods and Heroes is developed by Perpetual Entertainment--not SOE.
As for the rest of your "thoughts," laughter is the best medicine.
Apply lemon juice and candle flame here to reveal secret message.
for spotting lies... it's also good to know whats possible in 2007 and what isn't
not even the greatest scientist in the world has managed to make anything like A.I.
right now all they found out is that its much much much harder than they ever imagined.
for other great ideas, quest, gameplay ideas, just think of the work that would be necessary to implent that.
the closer you get to real-life-ideas the more time those ideas require, but not just a bit more, at some point its just gets impossible for 2007 and the near or probably far future.
Wait for A.I. computers that make an A.I.-super-MMORPG for you, only they'll be able to do it, but if they have a good A.I. why would they wanna work for you
there won't be anything THAT groundbreaking so soon, right now a very good MMORPG would be possible, no question, and for that they don't even need A.I. or other fancy unrealistic stuff.
What I am always just left wondering is why so many basic mistakes are being made in the new mmorpgs over and over again.
its like someone playing for example EQ1 for years, knows exactly what all the people liked about that and other games, then works on a new mmorpg and his first great idea is a rat-kill-quest
Gods and Heroes is developed by Perpetual Entertainment--not SOE.
As for the rest of your "thoughts," laughter is the best medicine.
Age of Conan is going to be out for the 360. MICROSOFT.
Gods & Heroes is a SOE game. SOE!
You can't say Microsoft and SOE have no influence whatsoever on the advertising of these two video games. Are you that naive?