Here is a table of tidal forces of the Sun, Moon, and Planets. With the Sun's tidal force equal to 1.00, the following values are given in Thompson (1981):
Moon
2.21
Sun
1.00
Venus
0.000113
Jupiter
0.0000131
Mars
0.0000023
Mercury
0.0000007
Saturn
0.0000005
Uranus
0.000000001
Neptune
0.000000002
Pluto
0.0000000000001
A last thought: alignments of various planets in the solar system occur all the time. It seems that every time one comes along, doom-sayers arise to cry that this is the end of life on Earth as we know it. The laws of physics, however, cannot be denied in this Universe of ours. If life on this Earth ends, it will not be because of planets aligning in our solar system.
According to NASA, the planets aligning won't do anything to Earth.
On the topic of the Solar flare in Dec, that's partially true. They estimate it will happen between 2010-2012. Maybe on Dec 21 2012 aliens will come down and come out with some decent games for the PS3.
After all the world can't end without its "second Jesus", or whatever the event is called. Whose to say that December 21, 2012 will not usher in the second coming of Christ. After all, the Mayans said December 21, 2012 will be the end of our current age. I think the second coming of Christ will rank up there with a new era of an age.
Says the Bible. According to the Christian Bible the Second Coming is only known by God - no man, woman or child. Read Revelation please. Thought you would know that Enigma!
To add, currently there is not technology to predict solar flares accurately so that idea is out.
Here is a table of tidal forces of the Sun, Moon, and Planets. With the Sun's tidal force equal to 1.00, the following values are given in Thompson (1981):
Moon 2.21
Sun 1.00
Venus 0.000113
Jupiter 0.0000131
Mars 0.0000023
Mercury 0.0000007
Saturn 0.0000005
Uranus 0.000000001
Neptune 0.000000002
Pluto 0.0000000000001
A last thought: alignments of various planets in the solar system occur all the time. It seems that every time one comes along, doom-sayers arise to cry that this is the end of life on Earth as we know it. The laws of physics, however, cannot be denied in this Universe of ours. If life on this Earth ends, it will not be because of planets aligning in our solar system.
But your post will be wasted on people who predict doom based on planetary alignments because those types of doomsayers don't even understand what tidal forces are or how it works or why the effect decreases with distance. In fact, just using the word "force" is likely to send them into a tizzy because for those types of people words like "force" or "energy" are interchangable with words like "magic" or "spirit".
So in the foggy minds of those individuals your post will be translated as, "OMG, the dark FORCES of the universe are aligning against us!!!"
Originally posted by Jackcolt Originally posted by Faur Fun fact: The mayans depicted a giant serpent spewing water over the earth in 2012. In the chinese calendar, 2012 is the year of the "water dragon".
Fun fact: The Mayans and the Chinese are in a conspiracy to take down danish watermellon farms!
Seriously?
AAH! A troll fire! Quick, pour some Kool-Aid on it!!!
You're right. Chuck Norris' roundhouse kick will never fail. That was silly of me, and I offer my humblest apologies to Mr Norris and his entire family.
- Phos
AAH! A troll fire! Quick, pour some Kool-Aid on it!!!
After all the world can't end without its "second Jesus", or whatever the event is called. Whose to say that December 21, 2012 will not usher in the second coming of Christ. After all, the Mayans said December 21, 2012 will be the end of our current age. I think the second coming of Christ will rank up there with a new era of an age.
Says the Bible. According to the Christian Bible the Second Coming is only known by God - no man, woman or child. Read Revelation please. Thought you would know that Enigma!
It says, "For no man, woman, or child, knows the exact hour." Don't worry. I know well enough about Revelations. Let's say if it is Dec 21, 2012. Well, I dont know the hour do I?
To add, currently there is not technology to predict solar flares accurately so that idea is out.
Yes there is. Go to Nasa.com and look up Solar flare predictions. They have instruments designed to tell us when concurrent waves of solar flares will hit us.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
To add, currently there is not technology to predict solar flares accurately so that idea is out. Yes there is. Go to Nasa.com and look up Solar flare predictions. They have instruments designed to tell us when concurrent waves of solar flares will hit us.
I was bored and looking through this thread again. It seem that you, Enigma, are still fuddled up about the solar flare thing. So I pulled this out of one of the links you provided. It's a little dated but maybe it will help clear things up for you some. It's from a question and answer section:
Your message made me once more appreciate the amount of misleading and loose information circulating on the web. I have spent a great deal of time and thought on creating a web site describing what is known about the magnetic field of the Earth and the Sun's effects on it, and for a real understanding, you better look there:
To answer your questions in brief: The solar maximum is already here [December 1999]. It is not an abrupt event you can date, but the crest of a wave whose width is at least several years. From what I have heard, the current peak is lower than expected.
No one can predict a large solar storm months ahead of time--the best we can say is that they are more frequent near the peak of the sunspot cycle. Some big ones cause little disturbance near Earth--depends on factors like the precise orientation of the interplanetary magnetic field. Planetary alignments have no effect whatsoever. [See also next item.]
No solar eruption has ever been found to affect the solid Earth. Their energy is too small, and almost all of it is dissipated outside the breathable atmosphere. No earthquakes follow CMEs.
Do you get what he's saying? Solar flares cannot be precisely predicted. No more so than hurricanes. Saying that they are more frequent near the peak of the sunspot cycle is just a law of averages generalization, it is not a specific prediction that there WILL be a high amount of sunspot activity on a specific day or month. And it is certainly not a prediction that a powerful coronal mass ejection will specifically slam into Earth's magnetic field on a specific day or month.
You really need to read things more carefully. I can see how you got the idea that you got from the links you provided. But only if you didn't read it carefully. You apparantely just skimmed through and picked out a few exciting sounding pieces and then jumped to conclusions.
After all the world can't end without its "second Jesus", or whatever the event is called. Whose to say that December 21, 2012 will not usher in the second coming of Christ. After all, the Mayans said December 21, 2012 will be the end of our current age. I think the second coming of Christ will rank up there with a new era of an age.
Says the Bible. According to the Christian Bible the Second Coming is only known by God - no man, woman or child. Read Revelation please. Thought you would know that Enigma!
It says, "For no man, woman, or child, knows the exact hour." Don't worry. I know well enough about Revelations. Let's say if it is Dec 21, 2012. Well, I dont know the hour do I?
See, I knew you knew. Have to nit pick though don't ya! I can imagine God saying "Well, let's give them the date of Dec 21, 2012, but hell, don't let them know the hour. Let's see what fun things happen when the clock starts a tickin'."
To add, currently there is not technology to predict solar flares accurately so that idea is out.
Yes there is. Go to Nasa.com and look up Solar flare predictions. They have instruments designed to tell us when concurrent waves of solar flares will hit us.
I have, but it describes the ability to predict over a specific time frame - not an exact moment.
In 2012 WoW will finally sell the rights to their game to SOE and SOE will consolidate all the servers to one. By December, the game will die and the world will come to an end.
- Phos
AAH! A troll fire! Quick, pour some Kool-Aid on it!!!
A thing on rottentomatoes said there's a new movie coming out called "2012", guess what it's about.
For some reason I am thinking it going to be Apocalypto meets StarGate with just a pinch of Cocoon...how close am I?
"It is easier to be cruel than wise. The road to wisdom is long and difficult... so most people just turn out to be assholes" Feng (Christopher Walken)
A thing on rottentomatoes said there's a new movie coming out called "2012", guess what it's about.
For some reason I am thinking it going to be Apocalypto meets StarGate with just a pinch of Cocoon, staring Bugs Bunny and Road Runner...how close am I?
A thing on rottentomatoes said there's a new movie coming out called "2012", guess what it's about.
For some reason I am thinking it going to be Apocalypto meets StarGate with just a pinch of Cocoon, staring Bugs Bunny and Road Runner...how close am I?
Who are you talking to? Those who actually believe the world is going to end in 2012(or somehow vigorously feel the need to defend the "evidence" supporting it) or me for making fun of them?
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Fun fact: The mayans depicted a giant serpent spewing water over the earth in 2012. In the chinese calendar, 2012 is the year of the "water dragon".
Fun fact: The Mayans and the Chinese are in a conspiracy to take down danish watermellon farms!
Here is a table of tidal forces of the Sun, Moon, and Planets. With the Sun's tidal force equal to 1.00, the following values are given in Thompson (1981):
A last thought: alignments of various planets in the solar system occur all the time. It seems that every time one comes along, doom-sayers arise to cry that this is the end of life on Earth as we know it. The laws of physics, however, cannot be denied in this Universe of ours. If life on this Earth ends, it will not be because of planets aligning in our solar system.
According to NASA, the planets aligning won't do anything to Earth.
On the topic of the Solar flare in Dec, that's partially true. They estimate it will happen between 2010-2012. Maybe on Dec 21 2012 aliens will come down and come out with some decent games for the PS3.
Says the Bible. According to the Christian Bible the Second Coming is only known by God - no man, woman or child. Read Revelation please.
Thought you would know that Enigma!
To add, currently there is not technology to predict solar flares accurately so that idea is out.
So in the foggy minds of those individuals your post will be translated as, "OMG, the dark FORCES of the universe are aligning against us!!!"
Seriously?
Fun fact: The Mayans and the Chinese are in a conspiracy to take down danish watermellon farms!
Seriously?
Oh yeah. They've already conquered Swedish hair factories!
get serious.
You're right. Chuck Norris' roundhouse kick will never fail. That was silly of me, and I offer my humblest apologies to Mr Norris and his entire family.
- Phos
why is it 2012? random number
Says the Bible. According to the Christian Bible the Second Coming is only known by God - no man, woman or child. Read Revelation please.
Thought you would know that Enigma!
It says, "For no man, woman, or child, knows the exact hour." Don't worry. I know well enough about Revelations. Let's say if it is Dec 21, 2012. Well, I dont know the hour do I?
To add, currently there is not technology to predict solar flares accurately so that idea is out.
Yes there is. Go to Nasa.com and look up Solar flare predictions. They have instruments designed to tell us when concurrent waves of solar flares will hit us.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
you should really read the first two pages of this thread.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
I was bored and looking through this thread again. It seem that you, Enigma, are still fuddled up about the solar flare thing. So I pulled this out of one of the links you provided. It's a little dated but maybe it will help clear things up for you some. It's from a question and answer section:
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Your message made me once more appreciate the amount of misleading and loose information circulating on the web. I have spent a great deal of time and thought on creating a web site describing what is known about the magnetic field of the Earth and the Sun's effects on it, and for a real understanding, you better look there:
http://www.phy6.org/Education/Intro.html
To answer your questions in brief: The solar maximum is already here [December 1999]. It is not an abrupt event you can date, but the crest of a wave whose width is at least several years. From what I have heard, the current peak is lower than expected.
No one can predict a large solar storm months ahead of time--the best we can say is that they are more frequent near the peak of the sunspot cycle. Some big ones cause little disturbance near Earth--depends on factors like the precise orientation of the interplanetary magnetic field. Planetary alignments have no effect whatsoever. [See also next item.]
No solar eruption has ever been found to affect the solid Earth. Their energy is too small, and almost all of it is dissipated outside the breathable atmosphere. No earthquakes follow CMEs.
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Do you get what he's saying? Solar flares cannot be precisely predicted. No more so than hurricanes. Saying that they are more frequent near the peak of the sunspot cycle is just a law of averages generalization, it is not a specific prediction that there WILL be a high amount of sunspot activity on a specific day or month. And it is certainly not a prediction that a powerful coronal mass ejection will specifically slam into Earth's magnetic field on a specific day or month.
You really need to read things more carefully. I can see how you got the idea that you got from the links you provided. But only if you didn't read it carefully. You apparantely just skimmed through and picked out a few exciting sounding pieces and then jumped to conclusions.
Says the Bible. According to the Christian Bible the Second Coming is only known by God - no man, woman or child. Read Revelation please.
Thought you would know that Enigma!
It says, "For no man, woman, or child, knows the exact hour." Don't worry. I know well enough about Revelations. Let's say if it is Dec 21, 2012. Well, I dont know the hour do I?
See, I knew you knew.
Have to nit pick though don't ya! I can imagine God saying "Well, let's give them the date of Dec 21, 2012, but hell, don't let them know the hour. Let's see what fun things happen when the clock starts a tickin'."
To add, currently there is not technology to predict solar flares accurately so that idea is out.
Yes there is. Go to Nasa.com and look up Solar flare predictions. They have instruments designed to tell us when concurrent waves of solar flares will hit us.
I have, but it describes the ability to predict over a specific time frame - not an exact moment.
A thing on rottentomatoes said there's a new movie coming out called "2012", guess what it's about.
In 2012 WoW will finally sell the rights to their game to SOE and SOE will consolidate all the servers to one. By December, the game will die and the world will come to an end.
- Phos
For some reason I am thinking it going to be Apocalypto meets StarGate with just a pinch of Cocoon...how close am I?
"It is easier to be cruel than wise. The road to wisdom is long and difficult... so most people just turn out to be assholes" Feng (Christopher Walken)
For some reason I am thinking it going to be Apocalypto meets StarGate with just a pinch of Cocoon, staring Bugs Bunny and Road Runner...how close am I?
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For some reason I am thinking it going to be Apocalypto meets StarGate with just a pinch of Cocoon, staring Bugs Bunny and Road Runner...how close am I?
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dingdingding
I am planning a party on December 22, 2012. You are all welcome to come. Further details at a later date.
Who are you talking to? Those who actually believe the world is going to end in 2012(or somehow vigorously feel the need to defend the "evidence" supporting it) or me for making fun of them?