Pre-cu has been gone longer now then it existed, it really is time to simply accept that it's not coming back. Infact, in 2 months time the NGE will have been a part of SWG longer then Pre-CU was.
Really, this thread should be in the Veteran forum at this point and not the Current forum as it's gone off track and seems to be mostly about discussing history.
Chances are if they put up a classic server.. it would be on its own, with no development or bug fixing.. because it would be an old code base that is 2 odd years behind, and would cost too much to pay people to maintain it on its own, when the current swg team is busy on today's codebase... Then players would whine about how the bugs never get fixed and swg would take yet another publicity hit. That, I am assuming, is why they aren't opening a classic server.
They possibly don't even have that old codebase anymore, due to it having been changed over the years and older backups deleted to make room for newer backups of the code.
Pre-cu has been gone longer now then it existed, it really is time to simply accept that it's not coming back. Infact, in 2 months time the NGE will have been a part of SWG longer then Pre-CU was. Really, this thread should be in the Veteran forum at this point and not the Current forum as it's gone off track and seems to be mostly about discussing history.
yea you are right but sub numbers of these 2 years are by FAR worser -literally more people played SWG during PRE CU then NGE- , that makes such a consideration me and many others suggest a economical "must" the more time passes .
- btw it would be fair to the majority of Star Wars Gamers who actually left outside from any service-
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Originally posted by DarthRaiden Originally posted by Obraik Pre-cu has been gone longer now then it existed, it really is time to simply accept that it's not coming back. Infact, in 2 months time the NGE will have been a part of SWG longer then Pre-CU was. Really, this thread should be in the Veteran forum at this point and not the Current forum as it's gone off track and seems to be mostly about discussing history.
yea you are right but sub numbers of these 2 years are by FAR worser -literally more people played SWG during PRE CU then NGE- , that makes such a consideration me and many others suggest a economical "must" the more time passes . - btw it would be fair to the majority of Star Wars Gamers who actually left outside from any service-
The NGE could double the number of subscribers it currently has and still not have half the players (and revenue) Pre-CU had.
Pre-cu has been gone longer now then it existed, it really is time to simply accept that it's not coming back. Infact, in 2 months time the NGE will have been a part of SWG longer then Pre-CU was.
Really, this thread should be in the Veteran forum at this point and not the Current forum as it's gone off track and seems to be mostly about discussing history.
yea you are right but sub numbers of these 2 years are by FAR worser -literally more people played SWG during PRE CU then NGE- , that makes such a consideration me and many others suggest a economical "must" the more time passes .
- btw it would be fair to the majority of Star Wars Gamers who actually left outside from any service-
The NGE could double the number of subscribers it currently has and still not have half the players (and revenue) Pre-CU had.
You're the biggest critic of SOE but never explain why you have something like 4 active accounts when your own critics call you out. If you hate the game so much and the people who are in charge (Smedly, Ward) why do you pay for 4 accounts? Weren't you going to take them to court afew months ago or something? I have more respect for the NGE lovers they at least like the game and pay for it, you pay $60 or more every month and constantly bitch about the game.
Here's a reality check for you, they don't care about you on the forums or ban you because they are scared of what you say. They do it because you are annoying. The mods probably sit there and laugh at you when you go off on one of your little psychopathic rants. They don't care what you say because you are the perfect customer and the SOE target audience. No matter how many times they screw you over or do something you claim will "destroy" the game you'll still pay them every month.
Pre-cu has been gone longer now then it existed, it really is time to simply accept that it's not coming back. Infact, in 2 months time the NGE will have been a part of SWG longer then Pre-CU was.
Really, this thread should be in the Veteran forum at this point and not the Current forum as it's gone off track and seems to be mostly about discussing history.
yea you are right but sub numbers of these 2 years are by FAR worser -literally more people played SWG during PRE CU then NGE- , that makes such a consideration me and many others suggest a economical "must" the more time passes .
- btw it would be fair to the majority of Star Wars Gamers who actually left outside from any service-
The NGE could double the number of subscribers it currently has and still not have half the players (and revenue) Pre-CU had.
You're the biggest critic of SOE but never explain why you have something like 4 active accounts when your own critics call you out. If you hate the game so much and the people who are in charge (Smedly, Ward) why do you pay for 4 accounts? Weren't you going to take them to court afew months ago or something? I have more respect for the NGE lovers they at least like the game and pay for it, you pay $60 or more every month and constantly bitch about the game.
Here's a reality check for you, they don't care about you on the forums or ban you because they are scared of what you say. They do it because you are annoying. The mods probably sit there and laugh at you when you go off on one of your little psychopathic rants. They don't care what you say because you are the perfect customer and the SOE target audience. No matter how many times they screw you over or do something you claim will "destroy" the game you'll still pay them every month.
Um are you wildcat's keeper? Do you tell him when and were he can spend his money? No? Didnt think so. Reguardless if he plays or doesnt has nothing to do with the facts. Many of us have been in the game from beta to now. We have seen all the changes and we are still in the same state as allways.
We have a game that had great potential with elements that appealed to a broad range of players. Now what does the NGE offer that the other two versions didnt? SWG still has tons of bugs, lots of clipping and lag bugs the list goes on. Hate to burst bubbles but precu and the cu had all these issues too. Whats the difference you ask?
The difference is the other two versions were populated on every server. The other two games were playable and still offered play CHOICE ,skill points and tons of profession combos. SWG was a RPG and stuck to that until the CU hit. Now its been turned into a bad FPS WoWEQ hybrid that plays bad.
Now i log in the current game and im instantly bored. The game lacks any originality it once had. The only thing it does offer is the scifi angle. I know a huge majority of players that would gladly love to play this game again if all things the NGE took away made it back in. Simple really. Remove the NGE with more min rollbacks and see how the game revives. Continue building on the broke NGE and you have the same post saying how bad it is.
Those of you that do enjoy the NGE i envy you. Honestly wished i could enjoy playing SWG again. But ive seen all changes been through them all and find the game has changed way to much. THe best solution and would fix SoE's bad rep would be to just offer two versions . Which we all know will never happen so enjoy the game while you can. One day it will be history and something else will take its place.
I do play the current game. I have an account that was billed for a whole year (2 months after canceling it), so I have to use it or lose it. My other accounts run when I want them to by using the PILE of game cards that I acquired for less than $10... Yes, the best buy 1 cent game gards...
The SOLE reason why I play is for my friends. It's sort of despite how bad the game is. I am part of one of the largest guilds on Bloodfin, and all night in TS all you hear about is how bad the NGE sucks, and how everyone wants to play another game. I came back only because I missed my friends.
-FOAD is most likely to leave for Warhammer, btw, when it comes out. That is what most of our pvpers are looking forward to. Our Pvp leader has us a beta guild slot in the game for when they open it up.
Indeed, a lot of Bloodfin is talking up that game in our voice servers. You see, GreyPawn, MOST of our communication is NOT in official channels like the forums, in game, etc. Warhammer is a game that I think will do pvp the right way. SWG half asses it as it has always done everything. I am a pvp player. I spend 90% of my time in game pvp'ing. Mostly because there isn't any content in SWG that I've not done 9,000x already, and the game hasn't had any significant content added in 2 years.
Again, is the current version of the NGE better than the original one? Sure, but how could it NOT be? The original NGE was so bad that it lost 100K subscribers in less than a month.
The only thing that people like about the current game among those I play with is that it's become sort of a emu of the Pre-CU game.
What we DONT like about it is that it's NOT actually the Pre-CU game.
BTW, servers have different communities and cultures, which is why each needs to be represented. Play on Bloodfin (the official PvP server) would be ALIEN to someone who plays on Bria (the official carebear server)... Sorry, Bloodfin players have little respect for the play style of Bria and vice versa I am sure.
I do play the current game. I have an account that was billed for a whole year (2 months after canceling it), so I have to use it or lose it. My other accounts run when I want them to by using the PILE of game cards that I acquired for less than $10... Yes, the best buy 1 cent game gards... The SOLE reason why I play is for my friends. It's sort of despite how bad the game is. I am part of one of the largest guilds on Bloodfin, and all night in TS all you hear about is how bad the NGE sucks, and how everyone wants to play another game. I came back only because I missed my friends. -FOAD is most likely to leave for Warhammer, btw, when it comes out. That is what most of our pvpers are looking forward to. Our Pvp leader has us a beta guild slot in the game for when they open it up. Indeed, a lot of Bloodfin is talking up that game in our voice servers. You see, GreyPawn, MOST of our communication is NOT in official channels like the forums, in game, etc. Warhammer is a game that I think will do pvp the right way. SWG half asses it as it has always done everything. I am a pvp player. I spend 90% of my time in game pvp'ing. Mostly because there isn't any content in SWG that I've not done 9,000x already, and the game hasn't had any significant content added in 2 years. Again, is the current version of the NGE better than the original one? Sure, but how could it NOT be? The original NGE was so bad that it lost 100K subscribers in less than a month. The only thing that people like about the current game among those I play with is that it's become sort of a emu of the Pre-CU game. What we DONT like about it is that it's NOT actually the Pre-CU game. BTW, servers have different communities and cultures, which is why each needs to be represented. Play on Bloodfin (the official PvP server) would be ALIEN to someone who plays on Bria (the official carebear server)... Sorry, Bloodfin players have little respect for the play style of Bria and vice versa I am sure.
You've had this account that's been "accidently billed for a year" for over a year now Anyway, I'm not gonna go over what you wrote for the 1000th time, I'm tired of doing that which is why I stick to the Current forum these days in hope that I won't have to deal with re-hashed history.
Bloodfin is the unofficial PvP server, not official (SOE has not labeled it specifically). None of the servers are specifically being represented, each Senator is picked for their role in their profession or expertise of the game. the way PvP works on Bloodfin is no different to the way it works on Ahazi or Bria or Chilastra, etc. The idea is to help the devs make changes to these professions/areas of the game, which would make server senators pointless since changes can't be made server specific.
i am curious as to why you would want to see the sub numbers, because lets be honest here if they post numbers that are even a lil bit favorable towards SWG you all will scream they are lieing...so imo its a waste of time for them to post sub numbers since you don't want to believe them no matter what.
My thoughts exactly!
Doesn't matter what SOE or anyone else says in favor of the game, the haters always have a comeback.
I'm here to extend a bridge back to empassioned veterans like yourselves, and let you know that the virtual world you once loved is still alive and churning.
Well thats why we vets don't get over it. We have to answer this and say to Mr. Community Manager that the service and the running world of Star Wars NGE is NOT satisfying us.
Many of us in thousands of posts mentioned how we would see our world improved and thousand of times the majority of Star Wars gamers get ignored.
OK here for the million time now :
- We wonna at least 32 Professions back with the freedom to mix match parts of professions and to change whenever we want into another template.
- We wanna different skills with allocated unique animations.
- we wnat the damn combat qeue back for to queieng up to 20 commands.
- We wonna the combat style changed , partical effects has to go and the return of of the cool pictogram's.
-We wanna jedi to be hard to obtain , but if obtained for to be enjoyable and not a joke e.g Lightsaber damage back.
-We wanna crafting goods better then any looted item or make any loot atleast only a part of a craftable item.
- Bring back dam decay.
- we wanna the combat lasting longer with more strategical depht and not this joke atm called combat.
This are some of the urgent top things missing at the NGE atm someone can add others i forgot maybe.
If the the running SWG leaks any of these parts then then its a inferior service to us vets. We would may come back if these things getting fixed and adressed ASAP. Will add that we don't wanna except any form of flawed service. ALL this things have to be adressed before a possible resub on our part.
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"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
Again why the hell do they even bother having 2 seperate forums any more. I hate listening to these people. And yet all they do is come post there made up BS and conspiracy theory lies. Some things are true 99% is not. It is just pure hate.
I try to post constructive post about the current game. You people that do not play this game and hate it so much YOU HAVE YOUR OWN DAMN FORUM. If you would stay over there maybe current players would'nt feel the need to post in your forum.
You people really are pathetic. The game you loved has been gone for 2 years now. It aint comin back people.
I know why you guys post over here. Because you all are like broken records you have said the same thing over and over and over and over and over for 2 years now. I have not seen an original thought out of any of your heads for quite some time. Just prove this show me that. That is all you guys can say.
Well the fact of the matter is no body has to prove anything to any of you. You guys have to migrate over to the current forums b/c You would have nothing to say over there in your own forums.
Please all you trolls and there are alot of you leave the current forums........ AND no you don't play currently so please don't say you do. It would just be another one of you lies. Wait thats all you guys can do anyway.
I mean Look at this damn thread it is in the current forum what the hell are you disgruntles doing in here MOVE ALONG.
i am curious as to why you would want to see the sub numbers, because lets be honest here if they post numbers that are even a lil bit favorable towards SWG you all will scream they are lieing...so imo its a waste of time for them to post sub numbers since you don't want to believe them no matter what.
My thoughts exactly!
Doesn't matter what SOE or anyone else says in favor of the game, the haters always have a comeback.
lol I doubt SOE are into childish logic like that. Only reason to not post, is few subs. I mean, even tho SOE might be 'content' with 100k subs, or even 50k, everyone else is gonna go "what a failure, this is f*cking STARWARS how can u fail?". And imo they would be right lol.
I'm sure the subs are higher then most ppl think, but they cant possibly be near pre-cu numbers.
If the subscriptions were doing well SOE would let the gaming world know... They had no problem telling us how many people played Pre-NGE...
Anyone who has logged in the last 3 months knows that the game has a feeble number of subs. It doesn't take a surgeon to realize that, but with some of the fanbois on this forum you might think it does...
If the subscriptions were doing well SOE would let the gaming world know... They had no problem telling us how many people played Pre-NGE... Anyone who has logged in the last 3 months knows that the game has a feeble number of subs. It doesn't take a surgeon to realize that, but with some of the fanbois on this forum you might think it does...
...isn't that kinda what they're doing when they say the game is doing well. By two different Devs now?
NGE griefers say that SWG is basically almost in the red (but I can't give you any numbers) and everyone cries foul but a fanboi says that a friend of a friend of my second uncle twice removed has the inside dish ( but I can't give you any numbers) says that the NGE is doing fabulous and everyone is suddenly a believer even though they still report that they are having a hard time getting together a group because they can't find anyone.
Again why the hell do they even bother having 2 seperate forums any more. I hate listening to these people. And yet all they do is come post there made up BS and conspiracy theory lies. Some things are true 99% is not. It is just pure hate. I try to post constructive post about the current game. You people that do not play this game and hate it so much YOU HAVE YOUR OWN DAMN FORUM. If you would stay over there maybe current players would'nt feel the need to post in your forum. You people really are pathetic. The game you loved has been gone for 2 years now. It aint comin back people. I know why you guys post over here. Because you all are like broken records you have said the same thing over and over and over and over and over for 2 years now. I have not seen an original thought out of any of your heads for quite some time. Just prove this show me that. That is all you guys can say. Well the fact of the matter is no body has to prove anything to any of you. You guys have to migrate over to the current forums b/c You would have nothing to say over there in your own forums. Please all you trolls and there are alot of you leave the current forums........ AND no you don't play currently so please don't say you do. It would just be another one of you lies. Wait thats all you guys can do anyway. I mean Look at this damn thread it is in the current forum what the hell are you disgruntles doing in here MOVE ALONG.
I totally agree with DirtyD,
As I have said in many of my posts to people that despise SWG now, MOVE ON. If you don't play the game now, go and vent your frustrations on the Vet forum and waste your time there bitching about a SWG version that no longer exists. This forum is used for the CURRENT PLAYER BASE of SWG. Not for Disgruntle Vets that still hold grudges on SWG.
I can't see why people are still bitching about a Pre Cu that has been gone for almost 2 years now. Yeah, I loved the Pre Cu, but it is'nt coming back. Its nothing personal to anyone that hates SWG, but take it to the right forum.
Ah, but I ask merely for the opportunity that you might reconsider. Opinion is subjective, and even though the NGE did happen 2 years ago, I realize that for many it feels like just yesterday. Again though, log in, check it out SWG the way it is today for yourself. S'all I ask. I'm sure the new Host Senator would even be willing to show you around on your old server! I'm here to extend a bridge back to empassioned veterans like yourselves, and let you know that the virtual world you once loved is still alive and churning. The virtual world I once loved is dead, unless you're talking about one of the EMU projects in which case it's then on minimal life support. I want 32 profs. I want to make new friends while standing in line for a doc buff at the starport. I don't want to see wannabe Jedi nooblets everywhere. I want Raph Koster's vision, not the current blighted miasma. I visit the offical SWG forum periodically and all I notice is the friends who aren't there anymore - the people who made Intrepid home are pretty much gone, the few who remain weren't part of my community back in the day. You want me to consider returning? Then consider reverting to Pub9. Otherwise, stick it. And really, this isn't bull about folks coming back and giving it another go. A quick glance at the the "Coming back" threads in this forum shows that much. Go read your own official SWG forms and note all the "we'd like to see a rollback" threads first - if you can get in before the thread deletions. Also, if you've got questions, concerns, or just want to rant at someone at SOE that will listen to you, feel free to pm me on the SWG boards or here, hit me up in-game (I play on Bria, I know, I'm an RP/carebear n00b), or ask a Senator to flag me down for you. When you are free to actually answer questions, and not restricted by NDA, corporate policies, or other BS, send me a PM, I have many questions I'd like answered by an official $OE shill but everytime one of you comes here promising to answer them all we get are "we can't answer that" responses. Until then, all I have to say is please give the game and license to another company, just about anyone else will do. You're not getting another dime from me until Smedley is gone and $OE cleans house. Just to make this clear, since this is the current discussion forum, I currently think this game sucks. No expansion since late 2005, none announced and on the horizon, the game is reverting to a pre-NGE incarnation which raises the spectre of why the hell they did it in the first place (yes, I know the company line, that's not what I'm seeking here). Ya coulda fixed it right, and ya coulda fixed it wrong, too bad $OE chose wrong.
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If the subscriptions were doing well SOE would let the gaming world know... They had no problem telling us how many people played Pre-NGE... Anyone who has logged in the last 3 months knows that the game has a feeble number of subs. It doesn't take a surgeon to realize that, but with some of the fanbois on this forum you might think it does...
...isn't that kinda what they're doing when they say the game is doing well. By two different Devs now?
The game is doing well I'm sure... considering it was in the dirt for quite some time. And GreyP states "I was stunned to see how well SWG was doing", well ye if you're expecting 10k subs and see they actually got 40k, that's enough to stun me. Numbers man numbers, show numbers or they should just stfu, coz its b*llsh*t making statements like that without the numbers to back em up. There's no doubt they would show actual numbers if SWG was near or above preCU. Sadly it's not. Its not even close to pre-CU.
I'm not arguing the game suxx now, especially if you've never played preCU then I'm sure ppl can find it a blast. It shouldnt matter what others think really, if you like it then fine. If you dont then too bad. Dont put too much faith in ppls "reviews" here on mmorpg forums. Try it yourself.
BUT, GreyPs statement is still pathetic without the numbers.
I love seeing the fanbois proclaim how well this game is doing then whine about no one to group with. I lol every time.
Well I came back after a 2 year break, rerolled as a BH from my broke profession of Smuggler, finally hitting cl86, never had a problem finding a group though, so dont know where you get your information besides here. Especially getting info from someone that doesnt play SWG is'nt valid anyway.
I see you must like Star Wars in general since your Icon is one, its a shame you can't just move on to another mmorpg like I did. And that was 2 years ago, decided to play Eve Online and pickup where I left off at Ultima Online. Now I am taking a break from Ultima, but still training in Eve.
I just dont get certain veterans of SWG, I never saw so many cry babys after these many years. Maybe 1 year like I did, but man, get over it, its 2007 now! Not 2003! Find a fun game and play it and quit wasting time pissing in someone else pool and take it to the right forums.
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Pre-cu has been gone longer now then it existed, it really is time to simply accept that it's not coming back. Infact, in 2 months time the NGE will have been a part of SWG longer then Pre-CU was.
Really, this thread should be in the Veteran forum at this point and not the Current forum as it's gone off track and seems to be mostly about discussing history.
Chances are if they put up a classic server.. it would be on its own, with no development or bug fixing.. because it would be an old code base that is 2 odd years behind, and would cost too much to pay people to maintain it on its own, when the current swg team is busy on today's codebase... Then players would whine about how the bugs never get fixed and swg would take yet another publicity hit. That, I am assuming, is why they aren't opening a classic server.
They possibly don't even have that old codebase anymore, due to it having been changed over the years and older backups deleted to make room for newer backups of the code.
yea you are right but sub numbers of these 2 years are by FAR worser -literally more people played SWG during PRE CU then NGE- , that makes such a consideration me and many others suggest a economical "must" the more time passes .
- btw it would be fair to the majority of Star Wars Gamers who actually left outside from any service-
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
yea you are right but sub numbers of these 2 years are by FAR worser -literally more people played SWG during PRE CU then NGE- , that makes such a consideration me and many others suggest a economical "must" the more time passes .
- btw it would be fair to the majority of Star Wars Gamers who actually left outside from any service-
The NGE could double the number of subscribers it currently has and still not have half the players (and revenue) Pre-CU had.
yea you are right but sub numbers of these 2 years are by FAR worser -literally more people played SWG during PRE CU then NGE- , that makes such a consideration me and many others suggest a economical "must" the more time passes .
- btw it would be fair to the majority of Star Wars Gamers who actually left outside from any service-
The NGE could double the number of subscribers it currently has and still not have half the players (and revenue) Pre-CU had.
You're the biggest critic of SOE but never explain why you have something like 4 active accounts when your own critics call you out. If you hate the game so much and the people who are in charge (Smedly, Ward) why do you pay for 4 accounts? Weren't you going to take them to court afew months ago or something? I have more respect for the NGE lovers they at least like the game and pay for it, you pay $60 or more every month and constantly bitch about the game.Here's a reality check for you, they don't care about you on the forums or ban you because they are scared of what you say. They do it because you are annoying. The mods probably sit there and laugh at you when you go off on one of your little psychopathic rants. They don't care what you say because you are the perfect customer and the SOE target audience. No matter how many times they screw you over or do something you claim will "destroy" the game you'll still pay them every month.
yea you are right but sub numbers of these 2 years are by FAR worser -literally more people played SWG during PRE CU then NGE- , that makes such a consideration me and many others suggest a economical "must" the more time passes .
- btw it would be fair to the majority of Star Wars Gamers who actually left outside from any service-
The NGE could double the number of subscribers it currently has and still not have half the players (and revenue) Pre-CU had.
You're the biggest critic of SOE but never explain why you have something like 4 active accounts when your own critics call you out. If you hate the game so much and the people who are in charge (Smedly, Ward) why do you pay for 4 accounts? Weren't you going to take them to court afew months ago or something? I have more respect for the NGE lovers they at least like the game and pay for it, you pay $60 or more every month and constantly bitch about the game.Here's a reality check for you, they don't care about you on the forums or ban you because they are scared of what you say. They do it because you are annoying. The mods probably sit there and laugh at you when you go off on one of your little psychopathic rants. They don't care what you say because you are the perfect customer and the SOE target audience. No matter how many times they screw you over or do something you claim will "destroy" the game you'll still pay them every month.
Um are you wildcat's keeper? Do you tell him when and were he can spend his money? No? Didnt think so. Reguardless if he plays or doesnt has nothing to do with the facts. Many of us have been in the game from beta to now. We have seen all the changes and we are still in the same state as allways.
We have a game that had great potential with elements that appealed to a broad range of players. Now what does the NGE offer that the other two versions didnt? SWG still has tons of bugs, lots of clipping and lag bugs the list goes on. Hate to burst bubbles but precu and the cu had all these issues too. Whats the difference you ask?
The difference is the other two versions were populated on every server. The other two games were playable and still offered play CHOICE ,skill points and tons of profession combos. SWG was a RPG and stuck to that until the CU hit. Now its been turned into a bad FPS WoWEQ hybrid that plays bad.
Now i log in the current game and im instantly bored. The game lacks any originality it once had. The only thing it does offer is the scifi angle. I know a huge majority of players that would gladly love to play this game again if all things the NGE took away made it back in. Simple really. Remove the NGE with more min rollbacks and see how the game revives. Continue building on the broke NGE and you have the same post saying how bad it is.
Those of you that do enjoy the NGE i envy you. Honestly wished i could enjoy playing SWG again. But ive seen all changes been through them all and find the game has changed way to much. THe best solution and would fix SoE's bad rep would be to just offer two versions . Which we all know will never happen so enjoy the game while you can. One day it will be history and something else will take its place.
I do play the current game. I have an account that was billed for a whole year (2 months after canceling it), so I have to use it or lose it. My other accounts run when I want them to by using the PILE of game cards that I acquired for less than $10... Yes, the best buy 1 cent game gards...
The SOLE reason why I play is for my friends. It's sort of despite how bad the game is. I am part of one of the largest guilds on Bloodfin, and all night in TS all you hear about is how bad the NGE sucks, and how everyone wants to play another game. I came back only because I missed my friends.
-FOAD is most likely to leave for Warhammer, btw, when it comes out. That is what most of our pvpers are looking forward to. Our Pvp leader has us a beta guild slot in the game for when they open it up.
Indeed, a lot of Bloodfin is talking up that game in our voice servers. You see, GreyPawn, MOST of our communication is NOT in official channels like the forums, in game, etc. Warhammer is a game that I think will do pvp the right way. SWG half asses it as it has always done everything. I am a pvp player. I spend 90% of my time in game pvp'ing. Mostly because there isn't any content in SWG that I've not done 9,000x already, and the game hasn't had any significant content added in 2 years.
Again, is the current version of the NGE better than the original one? Sure, but how could it NOT be? The original NGE was so bad that it lost 100K subscribers in less than a month.
The only thing that people like about the current game among those I play with is that it's become sort of a emu of the Pre-CU game.
What we DONT like about it is that it's NOT actually the Pre-CU game.
BTW, servers have different communities and cultures, which is why each needs to be represented. Play on Bloodfin (the official PvP server) would be ALIEN to someone who plays on Bria (the official carebear server)... Sorry, Bloodfin players have little respect for the play style of Bria and vice versa I am sure.
Dupe, ignore.
Bloodfin is the unofficial PvP server, not official (SOE has not labeled it specifically). None of the servers are specifically being represented, each Senator is picked for their role in their profession or expertise of the game. the way PvP works on Bloodfin is no different to the way it works on Ahazi or Bria or Chilastra, etc. The idea is to help the devs make changes to these professions/areas of the game, which would make server senators pointless since changes can't be made server specific.
Doesn't matter what SOE or anyone else says in favor of the game, the haters always have a comeback.
Well thats why we vets don't get over it. We have to answer this and say to Mr. Community Manager that the service and the running world of Star Wars NGE is NOT satisfying us.
Many of us in thousands of posts mentioned how we would see our world improved and thousand of times the majority of Star Wars gamers get ignored.
OK here for the million time now :
- We wonna at least 32 Professions back with the freedom to mix match parts of professions and to change whenever we want into another template.
- We wanna different skills with allocated unique animations.
- we wnat the damn combat qeue back for to queieng up to 20 commands.
- We wonna the combat style changed , partical effects has to go and the return of of the cool pictogram's.
-We wanna jedi to be hard to obtain , but if obtained for to be enjoyable and not a joke e.g Lightsaber damage back.
-We wanna crafting goods better then any looted item or make any loot atleast only a part of a craftable item.
- Bring back dam decay.
- we wanna the combat lasting longer with more strategical depht and not this joke atm called combat.
This are some of the urgent top things missing at the NGE atm someone can add others i forgot maybe.
If the the running SWG leaks any of these parts then then its a inferior service to us vets. We would may come back if these things getting fixed and adressed ASAP. Will add that we don't wanna except any form of flawed service. ALL this things have to be adressed before a possible resub on our part.
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Again why the hell do they even bother having 2 seperate forums any more. I hate listening to these people. And yet all they do is come post there made up BS and conspiracy theory lies. Some things are true 99% is not. It is just pure hate.
I try to post constructive post about the current game. You people that do not play this game and hate it so much YOU HAVE YOUR OWN DAMN FORUM. If you would stay over there maybe current players would'nt feel the need to post in your forum.
You people really are pathetic. The game you loved has been gone for 2 years now. It aint comin back people.
I know why you guys post over here. Because you all are like broken records you have said the same thing over and over and over and over and over for 2 years now. I have not seen an original thought out of any of your heads for quite some time. Just prove this show me that. That is all you guys can say.
Well the fact of the matter is no body has to prove anything to any of you. You guys have to migrate over to the current forums b/c You would have nothing to say over there in your own forums.
Please all you trolls and there are alot of you leave the current forums........ AND no you don't play currently so please don't say you do. It would just be another one of you lies. Wait thats all you guys can do anyway.
I mean Look at this damn thread it is in the current forum what the hell are you disgruntles doing in here MOVE ALONG.
Doesn't matter what SOE or anyone else says in favor of the game, the haters always have a comeback.
lol I doubt SOE are into childish logic like that. Only reason to not post, is few subs. I mean, even tho SOE might be 'content' with 100k subs, or even 50k, everyone else is gonna go "what a failure, this is f*cking STARWARS how can u fail?". And imo they would be right lol.
I'm sure the subs are higher then most ppl think, but they cant possibly be near pre-cu numbers.
If the subscriptions were doing well SOE would let the gaming world know... They had no problem telling us how many people played Pre-NGE...
Anyone who has logged in the last 3 months knows that the game has a feeble number of subs. It doesn't take a surgeon to realize that, but with some of the fanbois on this forum you might think it does...
...isn't that kinda what they're doing when they say the game is doing well. By two different Devs now?
It really is GreyP I got a PM from him on the SWG boards. Mann- he is brave. Kudos to him./
So let me see if I understand this....
NGE griefers say that SWG is basically almost in the red (but I can't give you any numbers) and everyone cries foul but a fanboi says that a friend of a friend of my second uncle twice removed has the inside dish ( but I can't give you any numbers) says that the NGE is doing fabulous and everyone is suddenly a believer even though they still report that they are having a hard time getting together a group because they can't find anyone.
Interesting.......
I totally agree with DirtyD,
As I have said in many of my posts to people that despise SWG now, MOVE ON. If you don't play the game now, go and vent your frustrations on the Vet forum and waste your time there bitching about a SWG version that no longer exists. This forum is used for the CURRENT PLAYER BASE of SWG. Not for Disgruntle Vets that still hold grudges on SWG.
I can't see why people are still bitching about a Pre Cu that has been gone for almost 2 years now. Yeah, I loved the Pre Cu, but it is'nt coming back. Its nothing personal to anyone that hates SWG, but take it to the right forum.
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NGE free as of Nov. 22, 2005
Now Playing: World of Warcrack
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I love seeing the fanbois proclaim how well this game is doing then whine about no one to group with. I lol every time.
SWG Veteran and Refugee, Intrepid server
NGE free as of Nov. 22, 2005
Now Playing: World of Warcrack
Forum Terrorist
...isn't that kinda what they're doing when they say the game is doing well. By two different Devs now?
The game is doing well I'm sure... considering it was in the dirt for quite some time. And GreyP states "I was stunned to see how well SWG was doing", well ye if you're expecting 10k subs and see they actually got 40k, that's enough to stun me. Numbers man numbers, show numbers or they should just stfu, coz its b*llsh*t making statements like that without the numbers to back em up.
I'm not arguing the game suxx now, especially if you've never played preCU then I'm sure ppl can find it a blast. It shouldnt matter what others think really, if you like it then fine. If you dont then too bad. Dont put too much faith in ppls "reviews" here on mmorpg forums. Try it yourself.
BUT, GreyPs statement is still pathetic without the numbers.
As are yours being in the current forums. No one has to show or prove anything to you or anyone else.
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Well I came back after a 2 year break, rerolled as a BH from my broke profession of Smuggler, finally hitting cl86, never had a problem finding a group though, so dont know where you get your information besides here. Especially getting info from someone that doesnt play SWG is'nt valid anyway.
I see you must like Star Wars in general since your Icon is one, its a shame you can't just move on to another mmorpg like I did. And that was 2 years ago, decided to play Eve Online and pickup where I left off at Ultima Online. Now I am taking a break from Ultima, but still training in Eve.
I just dont get certain veterans of SWG, I never saw so many cry babys after these many years. Maybe 1 year like I did, but man, get over it, its 2007 now! Not 2003! Find a fun game and play it and quit wasting time pissing in someone else pool and take it to the right forums.
Currently Playing: AO and FE.
As are yours being in the current forums. No one has to show or prove anything to you or anyone else.
no you're right, they dont _have_ to prove anything, and we all know why they dont