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Bogoa2000
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I will keep this short and say, EQ2 has more haters then any other MMORPG, what blows is these haters seemed to know nothing about the game. NOTHING! They can recite WOW though. I've played both and I can't stand WOW for one reason it's too cartoonish and that the only true reason for me so I can't & Won't trash WOW.
EQ2 low Population servers is a outright LIE!!!!!!! Five oldest servers during the weekday in mid morning are sometimes found burning, all other servers except VOX-PVP are Med. Thats good when you have as many servers running as Sony. EQ2 is a Hardcore charecter creation-maintaining-griding-you better master artisan early for PVP. Sony forum, fansites are some of the best maintain out of all MMO I've played. The only times I've become bored is when I get whooped in PVP by gankers freeps when trying to complete quest. 
Crazy thing is I keep learning new things about EQ2 even after all these years playing. Example is transmuting, 
I meet soooo many players who get lost in EQ2 world that they RUN back to simplfied WOW and it's storyline. BTW where is WOW on MMORPG polls? 
. My guild on VOX server, Sparta has invited atleast 20 noobs per weekend that were former WOWry, Oh' Sparta is a lvl 40 guild with over 400 members, ummm somehow server count based on Sony seems true.
Haters we understand it takes skills we AINT mad at you 
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I guess you haven't been over to the SWG Vet forums lately.
Seriously though, some folks will never be happy no matter what game type is released. EQ2 is a really nice game and looks/plays a heck of alot better than it did at launch. Very easy for new folks to get in and get started in the world and has some of the best guild features in a MMO in my opinion.
"If we don't attack them, they will attack us first. So we'd better retaliate before they have a chance to strike"
I do have to agree that most of the people slamming EQ2 have either not played it in a long time or have only played it for a short while. My favorite complaint is that you have to wait long times for zones to load and that you don't get a feeling of immersion because of all the zone loading, which is completely untrue. They load extremely fast and I don't mind it in the least. I absolutely love this game. I am in the same boat, constantly finding out new things. I don't even want to get into comparisons with other games. I have played so many and finally found something that fills my MMO void.
Ohh and since the OP brought it up, my guild has also had a crazy influx of players over the past few weeks. Almost all of them are new to the game. During peak hours we usually have 30-50 players on ranging from mid 20s to low 50s. Granted we're on AB, but for a newly formed level 18 guild we're not doing so bad.
Must resist... temptation... not to feed the troll...
Anyway, I can give you some other examples of MMOs many hate:
SWG, DDO, D&L, AC2, VSOH, AA
Personally I don't hate any game really. If I don't like it I don't play it. There's no use convincing others to think like me about a game. People are different and should be allowed to enjoy whatever game they want in peace.
If ya want some one who has alot of time in eq2 to comment on problems of many sorts with the game let me know, be glad to help.
Yeah, I dunno, I think people pour on far more hate on games like WOW, SWG or VG..... EQ 2 haters seem to be amateurs in comparison.
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i have played wow and eq2 and i still play eq2 just dont like the lag in citys.
WOW and SWG have far more haters. Honestly, I don't see EQ2 getting much grief. And those who hate it seem to be those who played it when it was released, left after a month and never came back. It's not the same game anymore.
I give the guy a 2 out of 10 on the hype meter. You lied about a well known server for being low population, saying its good.
I will award you with this though
. This award is givin to all those on Station Exchange ( plat buying ) servers whos population is dwindling and sony wont put them on regular servers.
PS you asked for a more in depth view by some one in oposition of EQ2 right?
I agree... they don't have anything to back it up anyways... Look at the review page. Fun stuff.
eqnext.wikia.com
I give the guy a 2 out of 10 on the hype meter. You lied about a well known server for being low population, saying its good.
I will award you with this though
. This award is givin to all those on Station Exchange ( plat buying ) servers whos population is dwindling and sony wont put them on regular servers.
PS you asked for a more in depth view by some one in oposition of EQ2 right?
Well not sure what you are talking about but if you you are refering to is Vox comment. Well lately, it's true. It's the only "low" server.As for "Heavy" well... i'll give you this figure (metrics). On AB, a weekend, you will find more the 80 players in Antonica. So the color not that off.
eqnext.wikia.com
EQII was a good game in it's day. I just kind of think of it as a over the hill movie star. What they really need to do is just merge servers down to 2 or 3 and do a better trial than that 7 day newbie isle thing and that would spice up the lower level population a bit..As far as server populations go the low - medium - high thing has been a running joke for a long time.
I miss DAoC
Prove it only needs 2 or 3 servers... Waiting...
eqnext.wikia.com
EQ2 does not have anywhere near the haters of other games. VG and WoW by far have more haters. The reason EQ2 has almost no haters is because its not a major game with a population according to ten Ton Hammer below 90k no one takes it seriously enough to hate.
Rather than being hated EQ2 is the home of the haters. I have never seen a game with people so jealous and hateful to every other game than EQ2 players. They have the perfect victim mentality and always seem to have a chip on their shoulder. Our game is betetr than that cartoony game or whatever insults they give it. It is an isolated community that has thrived on telling itself they are misunderstood and their game is better than other games. Its just that other people are not smart enough to realize that. No offense to EQ2 people but they are the perpetual victims and that victim mentality is reinforced everyday in game when they tell each other how crazy the rest of the world is not to be playing in their uptopia.
Now there are SOE haters, SWG haters cause of NGE and people will never reconsider EQ2 because of the product they released and their design philosphy but the number one hated game is WoW and then probably Vanguard next. WoW is hated because its big, successful, has a terrible community and people especially EQ2 fans are threatened by its popularitty. Vanguard is hated for many reasons because its new, because of SOE, because it was released 1-2 years early, because its deemed hardcoree although it is nothing close to being hardcore and because its hated by the anti-eq1 people.
EQ2 is not hated. People have simply moved on. It is an old dying game. SOE has been desperately trying to convince people through a massive marketing campign that it is still alive. But we have all learned how good SOE's word is. EQ2 is largely beiong ignored by the MMO community. No one cares enough about it to hate it. Look at its score on MMORPG.com if people cared enough to hate EQ2 that score would be a lot lower. Now I agree many people will not forget or forgive EQ2 for the state it was released in a soulless, drab, boring and ugly game that did its best to steal and copy ideas from other games with little thought to QA or as to how they to implement those idea.
Maybe SOE's massive marketing campaign can revive EQ2. It is the only game they have left with over 50k subscribers and their only marketable game at least in the near future. But unfortunatley SOE always goes for short term profits. They should be putting this money into Vanguard, while greatly flawed, it is amazing good and arguably a vastly superior game to EQ2, Vanguard certainly has much more potential and is newer and could have a brighter future if they actually put some resources into it. Rather they seem to be doing their best to kill Vanguard by doing nothing except watering down and simplifying the game. Rather theyseem to be using Vanguard simply as a marketing tool to direct people to EQ2.
One shouldn also keep in minding that giving 180,000 former Vanguard players a free copy of EQ2 all nits expansions and X number of time played for free will cause many people to play the game for free and give the noobie zones ther possible appearance of life. Maybe it will be a game saving strategy or maybe all these people will leave once they have to pay.
I wish EQ2 the best but its not a hated game. Its an old game trying to reinvent the image it had of being a drab, boring. poorly designed and soulless game. No one cares enough about it to hate it. People have simply moved on. I would not put much stock in what SOE has. They have lied to us so much in the past. Simply because they want us to believe the game ios making acomeback is not enough. I would pot my stock in MMOCHARTs 6 month old number of 170k and TTH's more recent nummber of 90k before I would ever believe anything SOE and its marketing department want us to believe. That being said I do hope they do make a comeback. Quality games and raising the level of competition benefits everyone.
Reply to Lillin,
Whew you took the time didn't you? I really didn't think someone would care as much. Lillin first off about the polls-MAN! how could ever make that statement :
Last looked WOW didn't even hint the charts, huh, I think I last seen WOW under a rug next to dust. Please go back to MMORPG poll and every other Poll on the web COMPARED EQ2 VS WOW and clarify your above statement. O' yeah lets look at age group as well to our friend Lillin statements I played WOW hardcore over a year while playing EQ2--} point well taken.
Since you pulled me into this-I give my #2 reason for giving up WOW after they're second expansion, every freakin charecter is a CLONE! It's not hard to guess who is who what is what. That crap is boring on PVP server. CLONE CLONE CLONE CLONE!!!! The only MMO game online that isn't a clone is EVE. Before you jump what do I mean by clone? All these games Achievments in my opinion sucks based on gear, class and level makes individuals varying. EVE is the only game you have noooo idea about your counterpart. Last, In fables like EQ2, WOW, WAR charecter build should be impossible to CLONE, that's a big idea and it's the main reason for massive bordem but I still vote EQ2, nono EQ as being aged enough this isn't a players problem.
Lillin you come off as if you believe in black helicopters and alliens with this statements:
That's crazy mad.......All companies do this because of Newcomers it has nothing to do with conspiracies or tricks, christ how some people think is amazing
. Sony has been in this arena too long in need of tricks and server population lies. They're public traded company do you have any idea of the fines and jail terms for anyone involved in such a scheme. 
First how does that proove sonys server count as true? How many of those members are unique account (not alts ) and how many still playing. Last i remember reading ( recently at that) is people on vox are wanting to merge into another server since the server is dead. Go check it out on the eq2 forums, this bs may fool a few people into signing up for the game but they will learn fast lol.
And people gettin lost in eq2? Dear god how is someone getting lost in this game, sure your first time in a new place is difficult to navigate but in eq2 one time through is all it takes to get the zone down. Most instances are linear too so if ya get lost you got problems.
And for the WoW on the mmo polls .................. maybe people playing wow are too busy playing the game to mess with a poll, let alone write up desperate hype threads to get people to join a dieing server that sony wont merge becuase its the server allowed to buy plat and items for real cash.
I think they are from what I see. What I like for people to understand is we all play what we like and I played SWG my first love becuz of friends and of course EQ2 and WOW. I like WOW if it wasn't so bright, lol and I could build a charecter nobody couldnt clone. Well theres is 3rd problem KIDS freakin TEENS OMG INSANE!!!!!!!!!!! Calm down. whew! Yes I am trolling my own thread and its time to stop.
I still have WOW on my Comp and SWG which I pay for still but for me EQ2 well I havn't found better. Would anyone agree that people make the game?
LOL, with all the problems we're having because of over-population. We even had a HUGE patch today introducing LoN and some server adjustments to relieve some of the lag. Seriously, we are so packed and you want to put about half a million people on 3 servers? Just stop, you're making yourself look really stupid.
"Granted thinking for yourself could be considered a timesink of shorter or longer duration depending on how smart..or how dumb you are."
LOL, with all the problems we're having because of over-population. We even had a HUGE patch today introducing LoN and some server adjustments to relieve some of the lag. Seriously, we are so packed and you want to put about half a million people on 3 servers? Just stop, you're making yourself look really stupid.
I know man I sitting here waiting for my patch to update. I'm getting very upset, I think they never even played.
I try to keep up with most of the top games' forums here and honestly the hate EQ2 gets is featherweight compared to WoW, SWG, VG, or even SOTNW - or even a couple of well-known unreleased games!
I see more of an indifference towards it, rather than what you can really call hate.
Hey, even I don't hate it and I loathed EQ1
you and I both know EQII has never had a half million people and is probably less that 200k right now. Spin it all you want but that is the truth.
lookie lookie I got a link to back my numbers up!!!! what have you got?
mmogdata.voig.com/
The MMOG data site has them at 173k as of June 07, I guess it just felt like less last fall when I was playing it. 173 K is a far cry from 500 K. But giving them the benefit of the doubt maybe 3 servers would be too few, try 5 or stretching it 6 perhaps.
I miss DAoC
Hah, this old pair of jeans. Honestly, my friends and I often argue, because they all play World of Warcraft and I play Everquest 2. I claim Everquest 2 is the far better game, though they constantly claim otherwise. What's interesting, is that recently, a friend of mine who I often argue with came to me and said: "Sorry mate, I realise I've never played EQ2, so I'm not qualified to talk about it, really. At least you made the effort to go out and buy WoW and play it 'til you got bored."
That made me think, none of my friends who prefer World of Warcraft over Everquest 2 have ever actually played Everquest 2!! In fact, no-one whom I've spoken to in reality who hates the game has ever played it properly, whereas, most people who seem to love it have played WoW. Interesting, innit?
Hmm, I also do not see many haters for EQ2. I've played both WoW and EQ2 and well I don't really have a lot to say about either one. WoW was pretty fun for a solo game and well EQ2 is...um...err...EQ2. For me personally there really isn't anything to love or hate about EQ2. Of course that is just my opinion. I either couldn't stick with the game for some unknown reason or just got bored. Guess the game just wasn't for me.
<looks around> Um...who hates EQ2? I feel like I just witnessed the tail end of a flame war that never happened.
I hate EQ2 and for that matter EQ1. BTW how is that Station Exchange thingy going where you can buy items and characters in EQ2
? Enough to hate EQ2 right there
. I hate EQ2 and have played it!
If you have any questions please ask. I have moved on to WoW from eq and no longer have any desire to play a dead game. Thank you. (posted by another selling his account in EQ1)
8 mil playing WOW lets look at this:
Mix all that in a bowl.
WOW is great for all age group in game play less learning curve and very colorful-cartoonish. Kiddie's love it.
I guess you haven't been over to the SWG Vet forums lately.
I was going to say LotRO or Vanguard fanboys, but SWG is definately #1 on the list.