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Comes to show you that people will make up lies to make their game look better than everyone elses, such kiddie shit, and than they blame wow for the immature community. I don't believe anything posting anywhere unless I see facts, Warhammer or WoW wasn't the first to have Dwarves, Elves, Gnomes, Orcs and Trolls, so what now, should we call everything a ripoff?
Even if lets say that WoW coppies WAR, wtf do I care, I have loved playing WC1 all the way up to WoW and I could care less where they get the ideas.
Are all Rock bands ripoffs of one another? What about all the shooter movies who have the same ending for the most part? Just play the damn game and stop trying to compare it to other games and how it is better, thats why we have Gamespy, Gamespot, Ign etc, and sadly G4tv
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This urban myth again.. theres is no proof WC was ever ment to be WH or that blizzard was in talks in GW.. please dont spread what "could" and more than likey is a lie... after all why would GW turn down a game like WC1 its a smash hit.
I have even seen crap on here posted by clueless ppl who said Starcraft was ment to be WH40k but it was turned down by GW.. ROFL.
And how would GamesWorkshop have known that Warcraft : Orcs vs Humans was going to be a smash hit?........ For all anyone could have known, Warcraft could have been a huge flop. And i would not put so much faith in this "urban rumour" being a lie, it is most likely the truth. Look at Warcraft the art is ripped straight from Warhmmer.
The whole 40k/Starcraft thing i never really understood, everything looks different. Even the marines with powered armour look completely different to Space Marines and powered armour is not original to Warhammer. However i believe Blizzard and GamesWorkshop were in court about that aswell.
Yes it not a coincidence that the year after Warcrafts release, Mindscape release "shadow of the horned rat" rts for GW. Tolkien orcs look nowhere near the same as Warhammer orcs... but Blizzard orcs are basically a copy of warhammer orcs. There's no point arguing about it tho as these forums have never convinced anyone of anything, no matter how far from the truth ppl are before coming here. I have seen posts the size of a small essay describing the differences between tolkien/warhammer/blizzard races/lore/whatnot but ppl just either 1) dont read them or 2) ignore them coz it doesnt match their own opinion or 3) consider them disproven by a single line they just made up questioning a single statement in the essay and therefore thinking they are smart and its all just a lie
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To begine with yes they wear powerarmour and are essentially plugged into it like in W40k. Also they serve an empire too a human empire like in W40k . Then you get the Ghost assasin He looks just like one of the 4 assasin types you get working for the humans in W40k..
Then we move on to the Zerg A hive race of self Bio engineered alien planet devourering locusts who obsorbe other races in there own [infested terrans] race. All Zerg are controlled by a Hive mind. There wepons range from scyth like blades to spikes that are shot to bio acid/plasma. The above can EXACTLY describe a race in W40K just exchange the word Zerg for Tyranids.
The Protoss a highly evolved Telepathic race who are few innumber compared to the past there machines are powered and Controlled by the Protosses powerfull minds. They have a wide range of Phychic abilitys and are sworn enrmies of the Zerg. They also ahve a warrior cast who are exelent in close combat but few in number and expensive. The above jst like withthe zerg desription can be used to describe the Eldar another W40k race.
Finally you get the old ones the creators of the older races of Protoss and the Zerg IN W40K ther too was an old race tht created the older races too [tho since the game starcraft was released the storry for them has been expanded].
Not that i dont like starcraft for when it came out i got hours of enjoyment from it.
"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god."
-- Jean Rostand
This urban myth again.. theres is no proof WC was ever ment to be WH or that blizzard was in talks in GW.. please dont spread what "could" and more than likey is a lie... after all why would GW turn down a game like WC1 its a smash hit.
I have even seen crap on here posted by clueless ppl who said Starcraft was ment to be WH40k but it was turned down by GW.. ROFL.
And how would GamesWorkshop have known that Warcraft : Orcs vs Humans was going to be a smash hit?........ For all anyone could have known, Warcraft could have been a huge flop. And i would not put so much faith in this "urban rumour" being a lie, it is most likely the truth. Look at Warcraft the art is ripped straight from Warhmmer.
The whole 40k/Starcraft thing i never really understood, everything looks different. Even the marines with powered armour look completely different to Space Marines and powered armour is not original to Warhammer. However i believe Blizzard and GamesWorkshop were in court about that aswell.
They surly would of played the game before turning it down and would of seen it would of been a big hit. even an idot would seen that.GW is a UK company and things such as Copyright infrigment are a matter of puplic record and some 1 would of by now posted some kind of evidence of GW vs Blizzard on the net by now.
If their was copyright infrigment, colouring the WoW orcs blue or calling them orgre would of solved the problem and had zero impact on the game.. but your saying blizzard (not a big company at the time) handed over cash to keep them green and called orcs.
What your trying to say is that blizzard is paying some kind of royaly to GW to this day for the use of "their" orcs? ROFL. Blizzard could buy GW if they wanted.
As the art being a rip off.. WH has many styles, just look at the old WH artwork (cartoony), then look at the latest WH RTS game (Serious) and now look at WAR (mixture).. seriously it does not matter how WoW looks you will still claim it ripped the art.
Demoting WC to a cheap WH knock-off and dismissing its many merits is blind and arrogant.. there is no reason the two games cannot co-exisit.
To begine with yes they wear powerarmour and are essentially plugged into it like in W40k. Also they serve an empire too a human empire like in W40k . Then you get the Ghost assasin He looks just like one of the 4 assasin types you get working for the humans in W40k..
Then we move on to the Zerg A hive race of self Bio engineered alien planet devourering locusts who obsorbe other races in there own [infested terrans] race. All Zerg are controlled by a Hive mind. There wepons range from scyth like blades to spikes that are shot to bio acid/plasma. The above can EXACTLY describe a race in W40K just exchange the word Zerg for Tyranids.
The Protoss a highly evolved Telepathic race who are few innumber compared to the past there machines are powered and Controlled by the Protosses powerfull minds. They have a wide range of Phychic abilitys and are sworn enrmies of the Zerg. They also ahve a warrior cast who are exelent in close combat but few in number and expensive. The above jst like withthe zerg desription can be used to describe the Eldar another W40k race.
Finally you get the old ones the creators of the older races of Protoss and the Zerg IN W40K ther too was an old race tht created the older races too [tho since the game starcraft was released the storry for them has been expanded].
Not that i dont like starcraft for when it came out i got hours of enjoyment from it.
You get the 3 basic sci-fi races. Humans, techno-aliens and the dumb but numerous aliens.. GW did not invent those either. its what sci-fi gamers expect and what threy got and love 10 years on.
You get the 3 basic sci-fi races. Humans, techno-aliens and the dumb but numerous aliens.. GW did not invent those either. its what sci-fi gamers expect and what threy got and love 10 years on.
There are however startaling similaritys tho. Such as the Phychically powered technology for example or self bio engineered race controlled by a single hive mind mentality.
"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god."
-- Jean Rostand
This urban myth again.. theres is no proof WC was ever ment to be WH or that blizzard was in talks in GW.. please dont spread what "could" and more than likey is a lie... after all why would GW turn down a game like WC1 its a smash hit.
I have even seen crap on here posted by clueless ppl who said Starcraft was ment to be WH40k but it was turned down by GW.. ROFL.
And how would GamesWorkshop have known that Warcraft : Orcs vs Humans was going to be a smash hit?........ For all anyone could have known, Warcraft could have been a huge flop. And i would not put so much faith in this "urban rumour" being a lie, it is most likely the truth. Look at Warcraft the art is ripped straight from Warhmmer.
The whole 40k/Starcraft thing i never really understood, everything looks different. Even the marines with powered armour look completely different to Space Marines and powered armour is not original to Warhammer. However i believe Blizzard and GamesWorkshop were in court about that aswell.
They surly would of played the game before turning it down and would of seen it would of been a big hit. even an idot would seen that.GW is a UK company and things such as Copyright infrigment are a matter of puplic record and some 1 would of by now posted some kind of evidence of GW vs Blizzard on the net by now.
If their was copyright infrigment, colouring the WoW orcs blue or calling them orgre would of solved the problem and had zero impact on the game.. but your saying blizzard (not a big company at the time) handed over cash to keep them green and called orcs.
What your trying to say is that blizzard is paying some kind of royaly to GW to this day for the use of "their" orcs? ROFL. Blizzard could buy GW if they wanted.
As the art being a rip off.. WH has many styles, just look at the old WH artwork (cartoony), then look at the latest WH RTS game (Serious) and now look at WAR (mixture).. seriously it does not matter how WoW looks you will still claim it ripped the art.
Demoting WC to a cheap WH knock-off and dismissing its many merits is blind and arrogant.. there is no reason the two games cannot co-exisit.
No Blizzard could not buy GamesWorkshop, Vivendi could but not Blizzard. The vast majority of the money made by the entire Warcraft franchise and any other Blizzard franchise goes to it's publisher and parent company Vivendi.
I never said that WoW ripped-off Warhammer art, i said the Warcraft : Orcs vs Humans did, you can clearly see how similar the Orcs were in that. They changed the lore and art in either WC2 or WC3 to move away from the Warhammer roots.
And yes Warcraft is a cheap Warahmmer knock-off, it's shallow to the extreme when compared to the vast world in Warhammer. GamesWorkshop own a publishing house called the Black Library where many army codexes and novels are written and published, adding to the already vast amount of lore. Warhammer is deep where Warcraft is empty and tacky.
You my wish to enlighten your self on the many WC novels http://www.blizzard.com/books/novels.shtml and learn the story of WC b4 you assume its shallow and tacky.
Even though im positive this is just a failed troll attempt I just gotta say... Do you really think WoW didnt rip-off anything from previous MMorpgs? You know its not exactly the first MMorpg, yet even the first massively popular MMorpg. How soon the Evercrack is forgotten when a new drug comes on the market, and history repeats.
Many??? I count 7 novels. (5 if you take the trilogy as one)
I guess for the average warcraft/wow 'lore expert' 7 books is many.
Warhammer has 80+ novels. Plus a lot of other types of books.
Many??? I count 7 novels. (5 if you take the trilogy as one)
I guess for the average warcraft/wow 'lore expert' 7 books is many.
Warhammer has 80+ novels. Plus a lot of other types of books.
I wouldnt bother arguing with a hater all they would do is spout of ill-infomed thrases like 'WoW came out as a MMO first' or ' WoW has a indepth and unique lore'. Just be thankfull that War has a long history behind it and leave the haters to there own pointless arguments [dont you agree cupertino
].
"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god."
-- Jean Rostand
Many??? I count 7 novels. (5 if you take the trilogy as one)
I guess for the average warcraft/wow 'lore expert' 7 books is many.
Warhammer has 80+ novels. Plus a lot of other types of books.
I wouldnt bother arguing with a hater all they would do is spout of ill-infomed thrases like 'WoW came out as a MMO first' or ' WoW has a indepth and unique lore'. Just be thankfull that War has a long history behind it and leave the haters to there own pointless arguments [dont you agree cupertino
].
I fully agree there is no reasoning with haters, they dont want to hear the truth and will make crap up to support their little false claims, though WoW came before WAR (MMO's).Im gona use the much used WoW > britney spears analogy here.. britney spears has more albums than say um jack johnson does that mean her music is better? no.... so 80 novels does not make WH a better story than WoW's 7 novels.
Inistry.. Go read those 80 WH novels then read the 7 WC novels and play the 4 WC games and come back when you are more informed to give an opinion on which game has the better lore.
<cupertino> crits <WAR fanboi's> for 5004k damage.
Sigh, i'm propably going to regret this but.
Did i say Warhammers novels are better? It was the 'Warcraft has many novels..' that pissed me off.
And have you even read one Warhammer novel? Propably not, since you are a Wow fanboy looking at the lame crits fanboy blah blah comment. Missunderstoon Orcs and Space Paladins does NOT make a good story.
Sigh, i'm propably going to regret this but.
Did i say Warhammers novels are better? It was the 'Warcraft has many novels..' that pissed me off.
And have you even read one Warhammer novel? Propably not, since you are a Wow fanboy looking at the lame crits fanboy blah blah comment. Missunderstoon Orcs and Space Paladins does NOT make a good story.
No I have not ready a WH novel and did you see me comment on WH lore? no.. because I am not in a position to do so.. just as you are not in a position to put out comments on WC lore until you know about the lore... that was all I was trying to say.In short dont comment on things you know nothing about... in the end you will always lose,
<cupertino dodges <inisty's> flippent reply
<cupertino> WTF pwns <inistry> with Rank 3 reasoning
To bad for you i have played Warcraft since Orcs and Humans. Have 2 novels lying around to.
In short, i comment on things i know something about...in the end i always win. (well, most of the time...)
Ps, did i crit you for 50025 damage?
To bad for you i have played Warcraft since Orcs and Humans. Have 2 novels lying around to.
In short, i comment on things i know something about...in the end i always win. (well, most of the time...)
Ps, did i crit you for 50025 damage?
Interesting I have 5 of the novels what 2 do you have?
Lord of the clans and some other one. And again, just because they have some melodramic stuff in it doesn't make it good.
WHO GIVES A SHET ! ! !
WHO GIVES A SHET ! ! !
You must have missed the 33 pages of people giving a shet...an easy mistake I'm sure!
To wank, or not to wank. The ultimate MMO sacrifice.
For god's sake, Warhammer IS ripping of something, but its not WoW. It will be probably a mix of DaoC and EQ1 with a few innovations. I won't play this one and im not a vanboy of this game, but calling it a wow-clone is just utterly stupid.
REALITY CHECK
For god's sake, Warhammer IS ripping of something, but its not WoW. It will be probably a mix of DaoC and EQ1 with a few innovations. I won't play this one and im not a vanboy of this game, but calling it a wow-clone is just utterly stupid.
Read on my child, all will become clear, in god's name I sware it. May the power of the holy Blizzard be with you.
Amen.
To wank, or not to wank. The ultimate MMO sacrifice.
If you want to see what's original, look it up yourself. Or just continue being a lazy ignorant troll.
MMOs Played: EQ 1&2, DAoC, SWG, Planetside, WoW, GW, CoX, DDO, EVE, Vanguard, TR
Playing: WAR
Awaiting 40k Online and wishing for Battletech Online
If you weren't being a lazy ignorant troll you'd realize I stopped being a lazy ignorant misguided individual somewhere in the very beginning of this thread. But you people insist on beating this dead horse as if were posted yesterday. Now all this thread does is bleed ignorance… Shame on you.
To wank, or not to wank. The ultimate MMO sacrifice.
My bad, I didn't notice your previous 2 posts were made from a state of enlightenment and having moved on.... And you got me, I didn't actually read all 33 pages of this verbal diarrhea, so I didn't see the moment of your realization.
MMOs Played: EQ 1&2, DAoC, SWG, Planetside, WoW, GW, CoX, DDO, EVE, Vanguard, TR
Playing: WAR
Awaiting 40k Online and wishing for Battletech Online
I think people should wait until the game is actully realsed and then decide wether it is a clone or not
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