I really dislike WoW but even though i hate the game, i know it will not be destroyed by any other game in the next year.
Conan and Warhammer will have nice numbers, but thats all they will get and thats all that counts is the amount of people that play them. Personaly im waiting for Conan and Spellborn, although they will most likely be better games seen in the majority of peoples eyes, WoWs fan base is to big to be tackled.
Im glade that Conans age rating will help filter out some of the WoW player base (Not stop but help),
Yea, Id agree. Time and the combination of several newer MMOs will eventually kill WOW.
But, as far as the biggest competitors, you have to think WAR is leading the pack. Who knows if WAR will actually deliver, but its a REAL PvP game and Mythic already has a good following. If the game has a good launch, theyll take a nice sized chunk out of the WOW pie.
Thats also a good point about innovative MMOs that stop trying to copy WOW. LOTRO is a good example of that. Youre not going to steal players by copying their current game, unless you make some BIG improvements or have some kind of hook.
Hopefully, we never see another WOW type of situation. Its obviously bad for the genre when you have one game with such a big slice of the pie.
Certainly not a WoW killer but if Hellgate has a good open beta it could do more damage to WoW then any of these other games mentioned. Hellgate like WoW will attract many of the old battlenet kiddies. (affectionately said) and as Blizzard has learned itself, don't underestimate those millions of battlenet fans, they are still out there just waiting for the right games.
The only upcoming online mmog type games I can imagine breaking 1 million in sales would be Hellgate and War. But comparing Hellgate to other mmorpgs isn't fair since its set up differently and one doesn't need to sub to Hellgate after buying it as the sub is an option
Nothing is going to hurt WoW much but Hellgate has the most potential right now IMO. We will see on Oct. 30th
Warhammer if anything... and that's doubtful. World of Warcraft is played much by people who play maybe 5 hours a week and still pay the $15 a month. Because there is no PK or Death penalty, some will just pick up the game pay for a few months and stop. They are making a killing distributing their trial game clients that can run on just about any PC or Mac. I mean they are giving out those trial discs everywhere... Pretty soon they will be in Mcdonalds Happy meals with "a free ingame pet code". You can't beat advertising like that, and that's what really pushes product like it or not.
When a massive Asteroid strikes earth in 2008 all life on the planet is destroyed, thus will WoW finally die..... Fade to a small cubicle in Reykjavik Iceland where a laptop computer has survived the global catastrophe, the computer is is still online to a WoW server and the screen shows a bot still farming the mobs in Swamp of Sorrows. BUHAHAHAHAH WoW will never die
Okay bad humor, of course the game will eventually be shutdown, but not by anything currently in development, and I'm quite sure it will probably be another Blizzard product that all the "WoW" haters will then focus on.
when God created the Earth he made Blizzard. he told Blizzard to amke Diablo and let gamers kill satan. we killed him. god told Blizzard to give us Blackthrone, a gun blasting classic. God told Blizzard to make us Starcraft and it was good
God told Blizzard to make WoW and it took the world by storm. now life as we know it will enver be the same.
sigh, I hate that Blizz is so blessed i wish an MMOFPS would take it down but i knows better
Hasn't WoW, EQ and EQ2 already been destroyed and stomped into the earth by Vanguard? Sorry but I went into a coma this time last year and have just awoke, I'm rather shocked that there are so many MMOs still around! What has happened? Has Brad Mcquaid bought everyother MMO including SOE? How much fun is station ambulation in EVE? Why haven't they moved DFO to released games? And how many millions are playing SWG now?
Incase you couldn't tell I'm being sarcastic, I don't like Fantasy nor do I like WoW but I don't see any game destroying it.
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
At this point they could lose thousands of players even a few million players and it will do what mmorpgs before them have done. Combine servers and continue on.None of the games mentioned have the potential to repeat the happening of wow at this point and time.
"Blizzard and SOE make a secret deal that has been in the works for 2 years according to Smedley. Smedley says all your MMO belong to us (SOE) and all players will be happy with the WoW CU/NGE we plan to implement by 2009."
Then in 2009
"WoW subscriptions fall to below 50,000 worldwide and players start having WoW pre CU/NGE withdrawls as lawsuits and worldwide demonstrations against SOE cause panic and disturbances in the civilized world."
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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Hasn't WoW, EQ and EQ2 already been destroyed and stomped into the earth by Vanguard? Sorry but I went into a coma this time last year and have just awoke, I'm rather shocked that there are so many MMOs still around! What has happened? Has Brad Mcquaid bought everyother MMO including SOE? How much fun is station ambulation in EVE? Why haven't they moved DFO to released games? And how many millions are playing SWG now? Incase you couldn't tell I'm being sarcastic, I don't like Fantasy nor do I like WoW but I don't see any game destroying it.
There was actually a poster who was convinced Vanguard would be the one and only WoW killer, claiming that Vanguard would reach millions of subscribers. He had a picture of Sauron in his avatar, I forgot his name.
Fact: Best is an opinon oriented word. Opinon: WoW isn't the best MMO, but it's not bad either.
I dunno, 9 million subscribers kinda says that, yes, it is the best. It's kinda like what kids are being taught in school, there are no losers only winners, when in fact there are losers. You don't see college or pro football teams throwing scoreboards out the window cause everyone's a winner do you? lol.
Hasn't WoW, EQ and EQ2 already been destroyed and stomped into the earth by Vanguard? Sorry but I went into a coma this time last year and have just awoke, I'm rather shocked that there are so many MMOs still around! What has happened? Has Brad Mcquaid bought everyother MMO including SOE? How much fun is station ambulation in EVE? Why haven't they moved DFO to released games? And how many millions are playing SWG now? Incase you couldn't tell I'm being sarcastic, I don't like Fantasy nor do I like WoW but I don't see any game destroying it.
There was actually a poster who was convinced Vanguard would be the one and only WoW killer, claiming that Vanguard would reach millions of subscribers. He had a picture of Sauron in his avatar, I forgot his name.
I sometimes like to sit back in my chair by the crackling wood fire on an evening, sipping a Brandy and smoking a good cigar reminiscing about old and long gone fanbois. Sometimes it's Auto Assault, sometimes Vanguard, sometimes NGE with a little EVE thrown in for good measure.
I distinctly remember one Vanbois who stated in no uncertain terms that Vanguard was going to be the biggest MMORPG for the next three years atleast! Sigil would bring Blizzards online division to its knees and crush all hopes of AoC and WAR, Brad Mcquaid would rule as the Emperor of MMORPGs and all would pay him tribute. I really wish I was exagerating but I'm not, some people get so caught up in the wet dreams they have about unreleased games that reality goes AWOL for a while. Such as the constant WoW killer threads being posted by a wannabe MMO Nostrodamus, WoW will die when people stop playing it for whatever reason. I doubt another game will "kill" it but we should just humour the AoC and WAR fanbois for now, until the games are released and their common sense is recaptured!
I'm waiting for PotBS anyway and I predict with 100% certainty that it will not kill WoW nor get over 1 million subs nor will Russel Williams (FLS CEO) get voted as supreme commander of planet earth declare world peace then challenge the Klingons for interstellar domination! An initial playerbase of 1-200k with a polished product would be good enough for this rabid fanbois!
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
Anyone heard of Red5 Studios (http://www.red5studios.com)? Former blizz employees including team lead and former art director for WoW. Members also touched Diablo 2 and Starcraft. Scored 18.5 million in funding. Anyway, they want to be the Pixar of MMO development. I love Blizzard but the more competition the better, especially if it's coming from Blizzard's stock. I like WoW but it sucks having nothing new and different to choose from. I want something to challenge my friends with who are all stuck in WoW. Why would I pick a game below WoW-standards especially when my friends won't join me? I think WoW could still own for 1-3 years (God, I hope not longer). And then what? Some of you talk as if once WoW dies then someone else will take over. Blizzard will simply whip out their next deal with the upgraded graphics and more. Who can compete with their funding, infrastructure and talent? Warhammer may become the 2nd most populated MMO for awhile but they could never take the cake with what I'm seeing. They certainly have dedicated fans. Don't dare say anything negative on fanboi sites. Anyway I remain a blizzard fan/critic while rooting for companies like Red5 anticipating something fresh.
The reason I picked 2008 and those games is because I base my prophecy on one outstanding conclusion... Microsoft will destroy WoW in 2008! Its the Rise of Direct X 10 Gaming! Any who posess the power of the X will rule the earth!
Microsofts too busy destroying their Xbox at the moment...i think they'll be back in 2010.
Anyway so you seem to be certain WoW get's destroyed but not by wich game.Ok so if one game kills WoW then also that game must reach the same amount of subscriptions as WoW.Otherwise it wouldn't be the killer of WoW now would it.So now let me make a "prophecy" : next year there will be NO game that reaches the subscription number WoW has.Also none of these games you named will get the WoW subnumbers EVER.That's my"prophecy".
Here's a question. How hard do you think it would be to physically destroy an MMO's servers and data backups? Theoretically one angry jilted player on a mission could drive cross country wearing diapers on a mission to smash some electronics "Office Space" style. They wouldn't even get that much time for it either- you can't get the chair for killing a piece of property. The restitution though- ouch.
Hope you got your things together. Hope you are quite prepared to die. Looks like we're in for nasty weather. ... There's a bad moon on the rise.
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I really dislike WoW but even though i hate the game, i know it will not be destroyed by any other game in the next year.
Conan and Warhammer will have nice numbers, but thats all they will get and thats all that counts is the amount of people that play them. Personaly im waiting for Conan and Spellborn, although they will most likely be better games seen in the majority of peoples eyes, WoWs fan base is to big to be tackled.
Im glade that Conans age rating will help filter out some of the WoW player base (Not stop but help),
Short answer to the poll is: None
Current MMO: Nothing
Waiting For: FireFall, GW2
Yea, Id agree. Time and the combination of several newer MMOs will eventually kill WOW.
But, as far as the biggest competitors, you have to think WAR is leading the pack. Who knows if WAR will actually deliver, but its a REAL PvP game and Mythic already has a good following. If the game has a good launch, theyll take a nice sized chunk out of the WOW pie.
Thats also a good point about innovative MMOs that stop trying to copy WOW. LOTRO is a good example of that. Youre not going to steal players by copying their current game, unless you make some BIG improvements or have some kind of hook.
Hopefully, we never see another WOW type of situation. Its obviously bad for the genre when you have one game with such a big slice of the pie.
Certainly not a WoW killer but if Hellgate has a good open beta it could do more damage to WoW then any of these other games mentioned. Hellgate like WoW will attract many of the old battlenet kiddies. (affectionately said) and as Blizzard has learned itself, don't underestimate those millions of battlenet fans, they are still out there just waiting for the right games.
The only upcoming online mmog type games I can imagine breaking 1 million in sales would be Hellgate and War. But comparing Hellgate to other mmorpgs isn't fair since its set up differently and one doesn't need to sub to Hellgate after buying it as the sub is an option
Nothing is going to hurt WoW much but Hellgate has the most potential right now IMO. We will see on Oct. 30th
Warhammer if anything... and that's doubtful. World of Warcraft is played much by people who play maybe 5 hours a week and still pay the $15 a month. Because there is no PK or Death penalty, some will just pick up the game pay for a few months and stop. They are making a killing distributing their trial game clients that can run on just about any PC or Mac. I mean they are giving out those trial discs everywhere... Pretty soon they will be in Mcdonalds Happy meals with "a free ingame pet code". You can't beat advertising like that, and that's what really pushes product like it or not.
When a massive Asteroid strikes earth in 2008 all life on the planet is destroyed, thus will WoW finally die..... Fade to a small cubicle in Reykjavik Iceland where a laptop computer has survived the global catastrophe, the computer is is still online to a WoW server and the screen shows a bot still farming the mobs in Swamp of Sorrows. BUHAHAHAHAH WoW will never die
Okay bad humor, of course the game will eventually be shutdown, but not by anything currently in development, and I'm quite sure it will probably be another Blizzard product that all the "WoW" haters will then focus on.
when God created the Earth he made Blizzard. he told Blizzard to amke Diablo and let gamers kill satan. we killed him. god told Blizzard to give us Blackthrone, a gun blasting classic. God told Blizzard to make us Starcraft and it was good
God told Blizzard to make WoW and it took the world by storm. now life as we know it will enver be the same.
sigh, I hate that Blizz is so blessed i wish an MMOFPS would take it down but i knows better
I think 7 years will shake wow,not kill it .
The only thing I wanna say is: I play EQ2
Lack of depth. WOW is superficial grind. Damn even SWG has more depth then WOW. And SWG is... profanities not allowed.
How can 8 million people be wrong?
How can there be any human in the world taking life of another human? I rest my case.
Someone posted that WOW has passed it's peak. I agree. WOW is on it's way down.
No fate but what we make, so make me a ham sandwich please.
I don't know what will kill WoW but i really know what will kill all games u listed in your vote poll and maybe WoW as well!
A I O N
Hasn't WoW, EQ and EQ2 already been destroyed and stomped into the earth by Vanguard? Sorry but I went into a coma this time last year and have just awoke, I'm rather shocked that there are so many MMOs still around! What has happened? Has Brad Mcquaid bought everyother MMO including SOE? How much fun is station ambulation in EVE? Why haven't they moved DFO to released games? And how many millions are playing SWG now?
Incase you couldn't tell I'm being sarcastic, I don't like Fantasy nor do I like WoW but I don't see any game destroying it.
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
CS Lewis
At this point they could lose thousands of players even a few million players and it will do what mmorpgs before them have done. Combine servers and continue on.None of the games mentioned have the potential to repeat the happening of wow at this point and time.
"Blizzard and SOE make a secret deal that has been in the works for 2 years according to Smedley. Smedley says all your MMO belong to us (SOE) and all players will be happy with the WoW CU/NGE we plan to implement by 2009."
Then in 2009
"WoW subscriptions fall to below 50,000 worldwide and players start having WoW pre CU/NGE withdrawls as lawsuits and worldwide demonstrations against SOE cause panic and disturbances in the civilized world."
I'm just speculating of course...but who knows
Chortle.
Smedly destroys WoW.
Makes me smile.
in 2008 WoW is destroyed by...
A blight to the Chinese gold farming crop.
Once upon a time....
OK....best response so far.....
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Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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... An objective re-accounting of their subscription figures?
There was actually a poster who was convinced Vanguard would be the one and only WoW killer, claiming that Vanguard would reach millions of subscribers. He had a picture of Sauron in his avatar, I forgot his name.
I don't know about 2008...
but when DRAGONBALL ONLINE comes out... kiss WOW goodbye.
I dunno, 9 million subscribers kinda says that, yes, it is the best. It's kinda like what kids are being taught in school, there are no losers only winners, when in fact there are losers. You don't see college or pro football teams throwing scoreboards out the window cause everyone's a winner do you? lol.
There was actually a poster who was convinced Vanguard would be the one and only WoW killer, claiming that Vanguard would reach millions of subscribers. He had a picture of Sauron in his avatar, I forgot his name.
I sometimes like to sit back in my chair by the crackling wood fire on an evening, sipping a Brandy and smoking a good cigar reminiscing about old and long gone fanbois. Sometimes it's Auto Assault, sometimes Vanguard, sometimes NGE with a little EVE thrown in for good measure.
I distinctly remember one Vanbois who stated in no uncertain terms that Vanguard was going to be the biggest MMORPG for the next three years atleast! Sigil would bring Blizzards online division to its knees and crush all hopes of AoC and WAR, Brad Mcquaid would rule as the Emperor of MMORPGs and all would pay him tribute. I really wish I was exagerating but I'm not, some people get so caught up in the wet dreams they have about unreleased games that reality goes AWOL for a while. Such as the constant WoW killer threads being posted by a wannabe MMO Nostrodamus, WoW will die when people stop playing it for whatever reason. I doubt another game will "kill" it but we should just humour the AoC and WAR fanbois for now, until the games are released and their common sense is recaptured!
I'm waiting for PotBS anyway and I predict with 100% certainty that it will not kill WoW nor get over 1 million subs nor will Russel Williams (FLS CEO) get voted as supreme commander of planet earth declare world peace then challenge the Klingons for interstellar domination! An initial playerbase of 1-200k with a polished product would be good enough for this rabid fanbois!
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
CS Lewis
Anyone heard of Red5 Studios (http://www.red5studios.com)? Former blizz employees including team lead and former art director for WoW. Members also touched Diablo 2 and Starcraft. Scored 18.5 million in funding. Anyway, they want to be the Pixar of MMO development. I love Blizzard but the more competition the better, especially if it's coming from Blizzard's stock. I like WoW but it sucks having nothing new and different to choose from. I want something to challenge my friends with who are all stuck in WoW. Why would I pick a game below WoW-standards especially when my friends won't join me? I think WoW could still own for 1-3 years (God, I hope not longer). And then what? Some of you talk as if once WoW dies then someone else will take over. Blizzard will simply whip out their next deal with the upgraded graphics and more. Who can compete with their funding, infrastructure and talent? Warhammer may become the 2nd most populated MMO for awhile but they could never take the cake with what I'm seeing. They certainly have dedicated fans. Don't dare say anything negative on fanboi sites. Anyway I remain a blizzard fan/critic while rooting for companies like Red5 anticipating something fresh.
The reason I picked 2008 and those games is because I base my prophecy on one outstanding conclusion...
Microsoft will destroy WoW in 2008! Its the Rise of Direct X 10 Gaming! Any who posess the power of the X will rule the earth!
Anyway so you seem to be certain WoW get's destroyed but not by wich game.Ok so if one game kills WoW then also that game must reach the same amount of subscriptions as WoW.Otherwise it wouldn't be the killer of WoW now would it.So now let me make a "prophecy" : next year there will be NO game that reaches the subscription number WoW has.Also none of these games you named will get the WoW subnumbers EVER.That's my"prophecy".
Here's a question. How hard do you think it would be to physically destroy an MMO's servers and data backups? Theoretically one angry jilted player on a mission could drive cross country wearing diapers on a mission to smash some electronics "Office Space" style. They wouldn't even get that much time for it either- you can't get the chair for killing a piece of property. The restitution though- ouch.
Hope you got your things together. Hope you are quite prepared to die. Looks like we're in for nasty weather. ... There's a bad moon on the rise.