Oh...okay...srry. Didn't read your last message before i posted the one right above this one. srry To see the lords of everquest thinggy, it tells you if you are an everquest subscriber. When you log into the game, it showed me a screen saying about how if you buy this and register it you get an invitation to the beta. It also tells you when your logged in on a character. It doesn't say anything about it on the box or anywhere in the box. As i've posted before (maby not on this topic but on others), both games will be good, just its my personaly opinion that EQ2 will be better. Its just more my type of mmorpg.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -EQ1 character:Grotub, shaman of the Tribunal server
I think all of you are retarded considering debating is pointless because everyone thinks they themselves are in the right. And you guys are all bsing out of your ass' considering most of the ppl in here aren't in either beta and that's why we're on forums instead of playing the game. So until you get some facts and quit speculating (i.e. Blizzard has no chance of making MMORPG's because they're only good ae RTS; or EQII will own because it sports 1600 quests and NPC's that yell at you) quit flaming each other's opinions; damn some ppl would like some real info about what makes either a good game instead of flame wars.
I am not scared of change when I said that WoW is staying tradition I mean the way the graphics look are similar to the way they look in WC3
and I am not saying WC3 was a rpg i am sayign it as some things in it that rpgs do like the units and heros haveing skills....
and the heros have the leveling and EXP
and D2 can be considered a MMo just not a mmorpg.....
D2 is a click based game...thats why i dropped it..i did not like the new patches and all you did was click and walk click and attack I mean thats boring...
I ema maybe I only see it as a MMO but thats just how I look at it I mean you obviously see differently......but that doesn't mean to crack on me...and seriosuly we shoudl just stop argueing.....theres no point to it.....
I am just sharing my opinions.....
--------------------------------------------- WoW -Rhalon 85 B.E. rogue -Rhalon 81 UD Mage -Doneski 85 Orc death knight
"Everyones life has a beginning and an end, No one can change that."-Hiko "If you wish to taste the ground, then feel free to attack."-Kenshin Himura ---------------------------------------------
Evercrack fans dislike WoW becuase they are scared of it.
Haha.. The thing that cracks me up about you WoW Fanbois is how you praise the game, but never actually say WHY the game is going to be good.
All you see is "WoW PWNS!!! I like blizzrd!" "WoW is much better yup yup yup"
If you want me to beat you up for this comment I will. I have in every other thread explained why. Artic is a friend and is just messing around. As for me, let me explian one this, in all threads all my points have been argumentive and backed up with proof.
I would like to point out that blizzard has a long line of games that have been proven to be internationally populare. I admit that because of the genre change they have less experience than sony. however remeber one thing, people like blizzards games because the grafics were good enought and the story line rocked. For instance, I loved when at the end of the rieng of chose that guy fried like a marchmellow on a gasline fire and in frozen thrown my heart meted when demoned boy still loved the moon princes and did something about it.
As for grafics, the grafics keep with the anime style look that all the games have had.
Everquest2 could be a good game but you would'nt know, there is not beta test for it is there. (If I am wrong then, well all I can do is oplagize but I don't check there web-page out dalyi or weekly)
Come on, someone challenge me, in all my posts I have never been challenged. I want to get i to an interlectaul argument with someone and smack there case down.
Give me five artic.
J.d.slanger-everything apeares to be a scam in this world when you first see it does'nt it.
J.d.slanger-everything apeares to be a scam in this world when you first see it does'nt it.
Originally posted by Asc0tt I think all of you are retarded considering debating is pointless because everyone thinks they themselves are in the right. And you guys are all bsing out of your ass' considering most of the ppl in here aren't in either beta and that's why we're on forums instead of playing the game. So until you get some facts and quit speculating (i.e. Blizzard has no chance of making MMORPG's because they're only good ae RTS; or EQII will own because it sports 1600 quests and NPC's that yell at you) quit flaming each other's opinions; damn some ppl would like some real info about what makes either a good game instead of flame wars.
HEHEHEH.. another victim. Hummm... wonder how sucsesfule d2 was especially online. LOL! your right there is not point in debates which is better, I am debateing why it's better. and now your my next person to rip as I am pissed of witrh hypercrites right now. If you want facts, check out my arguements in other threads, I can't be assed to type out computer specs, bandwidth information of grafics card details any more, repeating the same old information for morons that done read is tireing. And there for I am going to say this and this alone. They are both good games, My personal opinion is that Blizzard will come throught as people on this section of the forum agree who are beta testing the game, they are quick, they lissen to the testers and they are improving very well considering. As for eq2, sorry I have already pre ordered wow and will play eq2 on my mates acount to see what everyone is talking about. As for your stament, if you are tired of this arguement, leave or don't read. There are other section you can go to.
As the elustuse major puts it.
If you don't like this world, change your self, if you don't liek that close your eye's ears and mouth and live alone. If you don't like that. there's always...... (this is where I point a gun at your head and smile as I am about to feel alot of pleasure)
ps. I opologise for this out burst of emotional directed hate and rage as I have not been haveing a great day. I know apologizeing is not what I should be doing and simpoly not doing is the best corse of action however I wanted to do sometyhing to make me feel better and so I have.
by the by, tu_uilwen has the right idea. Share your view and if you attack each other, freaking make a valid point. Otherwise I am so on your ass for spewing crap and not facts. Have an opinion. Joke around, but when you start getting emotional about it and say stuff, I will retalate.
LOL, the irony in all this, hypocrite, hypocrit hypocrite. Try to relay a point here. just like how to have your own freedom you must surpress others freedom.
J.d.slanger-everything apeares to be a scam in this world when you first see it does'nt it.
J.d.slanger-everything apeares to be a scam in this world when you first see it does'nt it.
Originally posted by tu_uilwen Maybe I shoudl just learn to explain more..... I am not scared of change when I said that WoW is staying tradition I mean the way the graphics look are similar to the way they look in WC3 and I am not saying WC3 was a rpg i am sayign it as some things in it that rpgs do like the units and heros haveing skills.... and the heros have the leveling and EXP and D2 can be considered a MMo just not a mmorpg..... D2 is a click based game...thats why i dropped it..i did not like the new patches and all you did was click and walk click and attack I mean thats boring... I ema maybe I only see it as a MMO but thats just how I look at it I mean you obviously see differently......but that doesn't mean to crack on me...and seriosuly we shoudl just stop argueing.....theres no point to it..... I am just sharing my opinions.....
okay little boy... im going to make this niiiiiiiiiice and simple...
D2 is not an MMO, wanna know why? MMO stands for Massively Multiplayer Online. hmm... and before you said it could be an MMO but not an MMORPG, so your saying, because RPG stands for Role Playing Game, that D2 isn't an RPG? Oh okay, your brilliance astounds me. The fact that its an MMO...is just plain stupid. You host a game from other peoples computers, rather than a direct server. Also, you can only have 8 people per "server", now... thats pretty "massive" huh? Cause you know.... it IS an MMO, but not an MMORPG!
LOL! (GaurdianKing goes in to an operation for a hernia) you crack me up. Nice catch there. I did'nt even know what he/she ment by mmo. By the by that is what I ment it can't be counted as the same as I stated earlier in the thread.
J.d.slanger-everything apeares to be a scam in this world when you first see it does'nt it.
J.d.slanger-everything apeares to be a scam in this world when you first see it does'nt it.
If you want me to beat you up for this comment I will. I have in every other thread explained why. Artic is a friend and is just messing around. As for me, let me explian one this, in all threads all my points have been argumentive and backed up with proof. I would like to point out that blizzard has a long line of games that have been proven to be internationally populare. I admit that because of the genre change they have less experience than sony. however remeber one thing, people like blizzards games because the grafics were good enought and the story line rocked. For instance, I loved when at the end of the rieng of chose that guy fried like a marchmellow on a gasline fire and in frozen thrown my heart meted when demoned boy still loved the moon princes and did something about it.
As for grafics, the grafics keep with the anime style look that all the games have had. Everquest2 could be a good game but you would'nt know, there is not beta test for it is there. (If I am wrong then, well all I can do is oplagize but I don't check there web-page out dalyi or weekly)
Come on, someone challenge me, in all my posts I have never been challenged. I want to get i to an interlectaul argument with someone and smack there case down.
Give me five artic.
J.d.slanger-everything apeares to be a scam in this world when you first see it does'nt it.
All because they have had a long line of good games doesn't mean that this game will be good. It will probly be good, but it won't be good just because its by blizzard. I'm not a blizzard fan and i don't look up whats happening in the company, but i think i remeber seeing that the people who worked on all the other games, are now working for the company that makes guild wars. I'm not compeltly sure on that, but if it is ture, then it means that the people making this game will have no experiance at all. (plz correct me if that last comment was false, i don't study the news of what happens in blizzard) Everquest and everquest 2 also have storylines, and probly the biggest and most detailed story lines ever. (Not that i'm saying WoW won't have a story line.) About what you said about the graphics, i may have inturprited this another way then it was meant. (if so i do appologize) It sounds like WoW is staying traditional and EQ2 isn't from what you say. As i have mentioned before, change is hard, but those who deny change are doomed to repeat the mistakes of our past.
Also, articwolf, you should try to stop posting stupid stuff. It really shows your intellect.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -EQ1 character:Grotub, shaman of the Tribunal server
Yeha WoW will have a big epic story line I haven't fully looked it up but I know its set and based a few years after the WC3 story and its suppose to continue it in WoW
Uilwen
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"Everyones life has a beginning and an end, No one can change that."-Hiko "If you wish to taste the ground, then feel free to attack."-Kenshin Himura ---------------------------------------------
I'll admit that Blizzard have gotten somewhat better at making games a little more recently... but they have had pquite a few of bad games in their history, some of you "young ones" might not remember some of them *cough*Blackthorne*cough* but i can assure you that they were indeed bad...
Well of course.....every company has its good and its bads......SoE for instance....Lords of everquest.....that game kinnda crappy...wasn't bad...just wasn't as good as i thought.......I mean I;m sure blizz has had some bad games but look how many were good and succesful.......you know.....but i mean all companys have good and bad games........like AE for instance....HZ supposedly this big horrible game
but don't let past experiences effect your htoguhts on the companies ability to make a game now
Uilwen
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"Everyones life has a beginning and an end, No one can change that."-Hiko "If you wish to taste the ground, then feel free to attack."-Kenshin Himura ---------------------------------------------
I dont believe in judging something on past experiences, i mean, everyone deservers a second chance. It's just that I wanted to point something out to the self rightous people who preach about Blizzards "flawless" record.
LOL, okay I am kind of mellow today so I will just give facts instead of typing in bold and small type to try and efisise rage and mental instability.
Designers from blizzard have left and they are kind of working on giuld, facts on that ar'nt very clear. It was eaither the intire team of warcraft moved or one. No real information has been provided in other forums, and the news sites see it as old news so I can't get the articals again. As for Blizarrds records, If I recall 3 games have not made the big list of all time games in all charts. As for Blizzard makeing wow good. Please, I already said it was my opinion and that it could easily be as wrong as brunch. No one can for see the future, and I said it was my prediction already. As for other coments you made, propoganda was spread, I apologize, I did not mention games that did not make it to the top ten list of games in all charts. As for that, I stand by my statment that for a company that created several good games that are intinationally recognised, then they have my backing.
As for the creators and so on leaving blizard, if I read some where in the forums a conversation like this, I at lest know one of the original creators are on the world of warcraft team as the game moderators and beta testers were talking about it. (Can a beta tester for the game please come here and confirm this)
J.d.slanger-everything apeares to be a scam in this world when you first see it does'nt it.
J.d.slanger-everything apeares to be a scam in this world when you first see it does'nt it.
I heard it was the teram who was creating D3 left and started guild wars and blizz found another team to finish D3 and brawl with GW but apparently thats not tru because if it was we would have heard about D3 by now....
and even if the original team from WC3 left whats that mean???you could jsut as easily get someone who knwos RPGS alot better and teach them all about WC3 and they do something jsut as good if not better.....
and if you have atleast one original guy....then whats the big problem????there shouldn't be any if you ask me....because then theres atleas tone guy there that knows about the story and all...i am still waiting for this game and WoW-GW-and EQ2 are tied right now at the top of my list......
and i am neutral on the hwole which game is gonna be better then that game....
I think WoW-EQ2-Gw will all be good in all of there ways and all will get alot of good and bad feed back......
Uilwen
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"Everyones life has a beginning and an end, No one can change that."-Hiko "If you wish to taste the ground, then feel free to attack."-Kenshin Himura ---------------------------------------------
Originally posted by Azron I am wanting to hear from the people who have fully informend themselves on both games, without major biased. Why did you pick WoW? Is it for the worse graphics? The lack of imersion? The way they try to hurt people who just want to kill things for hours? Or maybe you just want to play a game that will not have many people playing it in a year? Crowding can be annoying empty servers leaves your pick of the content... right?
A lot of people will choose WoW over EQ2 because everquest lost its luster and people dont have faith that it will ever get it back.
in addition to this, its SOE, and a lot of people i konw despise SOE and refuse to play their games...Blizzard has a good record of making quality games with a lot of staying power(star craft+expansion, diablo series, Warcraft series)
i wont be playing either game because i am tired of the fantasy setting of elves and dwarves and all that stuff that seems so popular in video games(especially MMO's)
"Probably the saddest thing that you will ever see is a mosquito sucking on a mummy, forget it little friend." --Jack Handey
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dracius-Saberi-Static "With every post, I lose just a little bit more of my sanity." -Dracius
Greee... Let me into the AMerician beta now. (GaurdianKing bangs o the doors to the world of warcraft) Let meeeeee in noooooooooowwww! I want to seeee, I want to seeeeeee. LOL!!!
Why have you forsaken me god, WHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HEHEHEHE! did not hear that one, then again I did not check the forum for the patch yet.
J.d.slanger-everything apeares to be a scam in this world when you first see it does'nt it.
J.d.slanger-everything apeares to be a scam in this world when you first see it does'nt it.
LoL, little flame here on an afternoon a few weeks ago and look what I cook up. 12 pages jeeze thats a lot of chitter chatter. Not going to read it of course I assume the general opinion is EQII > WoW, that is agreeable by the official hype meter.
Keep this thread going baby never say die. Keep defending piddly WoW you just wait for EQII beta to start rolling.
So you post about how you started this thread with a flame, then you come back neglect all that's been said and claim EQ2 the better game THEN go on to insult WoW and thus the people defending it, ON the WoW threads... So basicaly you start with a flame, and finish with a flame.
This thread has officialy loss my sponsorship.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ With every post I lose just a little bit more of my sanity.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dracius-Saberi-Static "With every post, I lose just a little bit more of my sanity." -Dracius
LOL darcius, can you tell me which thread I asked you opinion of wheather I should actaully say something about the bullshit spewing out of someones mouth. I can't rember which thread it was in. Thanks in advanced.
J.d.slanger-everything apeares to be a scam in this world when you first see it does'nt it.
J.d.slanger-everything apeares to be a scam in this world when you first see it does'nt it.
Graphics do not make a game..........its story...gameplay....items......ETC.....
not graphics and only freakin graphics.....man people need to learn how to argue with facts and not just..."o the graphics are god so game will be god"
ok the graphics in WoW are tradition WC graphics......
they are keeping and using the graphics from WC3.....and i think the game looks really awesome
and so you know....
I have seen MANY games that look good...but yet are really bad......
want a list?
Good graphic flops Starwars galaxies some people would say Lineage 2 some people would say City of heroes some people would say Horizons
But there are alot more out there......
so i mean seriosuly....get facts and argue....see i liek both wow and eq2 so if i need ot i will fight with facts on those....
Uilwen Waiting for Everquest 2 World of warcraft Half-life 2 Guild wars
Currently playing Everquest...45 wood elf Ranger DAoC.....26 Paladin *albion*
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"Everyones life has a beginning and an end, No one can change that."-Hiko "If you wish to taste the ground, then feel free to attack."-Kenshin Himura ---------------------------------------------
Here is a list of reasons why <I> am going to play Eq2.
1. Locked encounters: When you engage a monster it becomes a locked encouter. This prevents kitting, kill stealing, loot stealing, ect. I think this is an awsome idea.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
2. Combat: The combat in Eq2 looks simply stunning. If you have watched some of the vidoes than you would know what i mean.
3. Guilds: Guilds are much more important in Eq2 than they were in Eq1. Guilds will compete with other guilds for prestige, honor, and favor with the rulers of their city. They are much more involved than in Eq1 where they were just names on a list. Guilds will be able to own guild houses too.
4. Families: They will consist of people with the last name. They will be important, just not as important as guilds. You will beable to notice what family a person is in by observing their last name.
5. Fellowships: They will consist of a maximum of 6 people. They will always share experiance with each other no matter where the other members are.
6. Housing: Players will beable to own their own housing. From instanced appartment style housing, to massive guild mansions. The appartment style will be easy to obtain, but the stand alone housing will mostly only be obtainable by the highest level guilds.
7. Races: There will be 16 playable races. From the shortest gnome, to the tallest ogre.
8. Classes: There will be a total of 46 classes. Eq2 implements a branching style, where you choose what path to take as you advance.
9. Character customization: Players will beable to customize their appearance with complete control. Giving them even more options on how to make their character exactly the way they want them to be.
10. Lore/history: Eq2 will have an unimagianble amount of lore and history. All of this will play an important role in gameplay and guests.
11. NPCs with voices: Every NPC in Eq2 will have their own voice. NPCs will actually call out to you if they have a quest that you are capable of doing.
12. Artisan class: The artisan can get experiance from using their skill. They don't have to fight a single monster ever. They live sort of "normal" lives, having a job, and getting money from it.
13. Tradeskills: Tradeskills are much more advanced and indepth in Eq2 than in any other. Eq2 has a revolutionary system. Instead of just click, click, click, WOOT!!! i made a sword. You actually have to "engage" the furnace and craft your item. You have to keep the tempreture at a right level, and you have to work with the metal to form the desired result.
14. Two starting cities: In Eq2 there will be only 2 starting cities, which is an awsome idea. These will always be populated because there are only 2. Each will have around 17 zones each, making them massive. They will provide a hub for trading and traveling. In most mmorpgs with many starting cities, you end up with only one or two actually being populated with people. The others are compelety abondoned. There are only 2 starting cities, but there are more than 2 cities, just they are alot smaller and less important.
15. Exploration: Exporlation will be an important factor in Eq2. With no one knowing what happened to the rest of Norath it will be your job to explore and learn.
16. Boats: Boats will be the primary mode of transportation in Eq2. Players will beable to actually naviagte boats instead of them being on a set course. There of course will be set routes for some boats. But players can guide some boats. Allowing them more freedom in where they want to go.
17. Graphics: The graphics in Eq2 are simply amazing. Just look at this picture:
Look at the detail, you can actually see the veins in the guy's hands and neck.
I can go on, but i won't at this time.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -EQ1 character:Grotub, shaman of the Tribunal server
I Have to say you have a point i like alot of SOE's ideas also but i am going WoW and i do that even though i played EQ for like 2 years.
1 Big reasen for not choosing EQII is simply that they are destroying the genre mmorpg i dont understand how they can call it an mmorpg.mmo[rpg] (role playing game) lol where are the roleplaying in a world where there are 2 cities i mean who would roleplay an ogre when they live in the same city as some races like halflings and humans. The homecitys in EQ was something IMPORTANT when it comes to roleplaying. I played an halfling and what made the EQ world so specail for me was that every time you played some other character you got another experiance, Halflings with their burrows and their small round doors were very charming! Barbarians and their crude houses in Halas where there are always winter, i mean imagian yourself playing a Barbarian again your favo race and the character you built started in FREEPORT!!
That would realy suck. Another game that looks realy good are Vanguard which is being made by the people that made the ORIGINAL EQ not the corrupted version we have now days with tons of expansions just destroying the game.
Hukkan Leafstorm explorer of the world of Norrath.
Hukkan Leafstorm explorer of the world of Norrath.
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Maybe I shoudl just learn to explain more.....
I am not scared of change when I said that WoW is staying tradition I mean the way the graphics look are similar to the way they look in WC3
and I am not saying WC3 was a rpg i am sayign it as some things in it that rpgs do like the units and heros haveing skills....
and the heros have the leveling and EXP
and D2 can be considered a MMo just not a mmorpg.....
D2 is a click based game...thats why i dropped it..i did not like the new patches and all you did was click and walk click and attack I mean thats boring...
I ema maybe I only see it as a MMO but thats just how I look at it I mean you obviously see differently......but that doesn't mean to crack on me...and seriosuly we shoudl just stop argueing.....theres no point to it.....
I am just sharing my opinions.....
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-Rhalon 85 B.E. rogue
-Rhalon 81 UD Mage
-Doneski 85 Orc death knight
"Everyones life has a beginning and an end, No one can change that."-Hiko
"If you wish to taste the ground, then feel free to attack."-Kenshin Himura
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Come on, someone challenge me, in all my posts I have never been challenged. I want to get i to an interlectaul argument with someone and smack there case down.
Give me five artic.
J.d.slanger-everything apeares to be a scam in this world when you first see it does'nt it.
J.d.slanger-everything apeares to be a scam in this world when you first see it does'nt it.
HEHEHEH.. another victim. Hummm... wonder how sucsesfule d2 was especially online. LOL! your right there is not point in debates which is better, I am debateing why it's better. and now your my next person to rip as I am pissed of witrh hypercrites right now. If you want facts, check out my arguements in other threads, I can't be assed to type out computer specs, bandwidth information of grafics card details any more, repeating the same old information for morons that done read is tireing. And there for I am going to say this and this alone. They are both good games, My personal opinion is that Blizzard will come throught as people on this section of the forum agree who are beta testing the game, they are quick, they lissen to the testers and they are improving very well considering. As for eq2, sorry I have already pre ordered wow and will play eq2 on my mates acount to see what everyone is talking about. As for your stament, if you are tired of this arguement, leave or don't read. There are other section you can go to.
As the elustuse major puts it.
If you don't like this world, change your self, if you don't liek that close your eye's ears and mouth and live alone. If you don't like that. there's always...... (this is where I point a gun at your head and smile as I am about to feel alot of pleasure)
ps. I opologise for this out burst of emotional directed hate and rage as I have not been haveing a great day. I know apologizeing is not what I should be doing and simpoly not doing is the best corse of action however I wanted to do sometyhing to make me feel better and so I have.
by the by, tu_uilwen has the right idea. Share your view and if you attack each other, freaking make a valid point. Otherwise I am so on your ass for spewing crap and not facts. Have an opinion. Joke around, but when you start getting emotional about it and say stuff, I will retalate.
LOL, the irony in all this, hypocrite, hypocrit hypocrite. Try to relay a point here. just like how to have your own freedom you must surpress others freedom.
J.d.slanger-everything apeares to be a scam in this world when you first see it does'nt it.
J.d.slanger-everything apeares to be a scam in this world when you first see it does'nt it.
okay little boy... im going to make this niiiiiiiiiice and simple...
D2 is not an MMO, wanna know why? MMO stands for Massively Multiplayer Online. hmm... and before you said it could be an MMO but not an MMORPG, so your saying, because RPG stands for Role Playing Game, that D2 isn't an RPG? Oh okay, your brilliance astounds me. The fact that its an MMO...is just plain stupid. You host a game from other peoples computers, rather than a direct server. Also, you can only have 8 people per "server", now... thats pretty "massive" huh? Cause you know.... it IS an MMO, but not an MMORPG!
J.d.slanger-everything apeares to be a scam in this world when you first see it does'nt it.
J.d.slanger-everything apeares to be a scam in this world when you first see it does'nt it.
Come on, someone challenge me, in all my posts I have never been challenged. I want to get i to an interlectaul argument with someone and smack there case down.
Give me five artic.
J.d.slanger-everything apeares to be a scam in this world when you first see it does'nt it.
All because they have had a long line of good games doesn't mean that this game will be good. It will probly be good, but it won't be good just because its by blizzard. I'm not a blizzard fan and i don't look up whats happening in the company, but i think i remeber seeing that the people who worked on all the other games, are now working for the company that makes guild wars. I'm not compeltly sure on that, but if it is ture, then it means that the people making this game will have no experiance at all. (plz correct me if that last comment was false, i don't study the news of what happens in blizzard) Everquest and everquest 2 also have storylines, and probly the biggest and most detailed story lines ever. (Not that i'm saying WoW won't have a story line.) About what you said about the graphics, i may have inturprited this another way then it was meant. (if so i do appologize) It sounds like WoW is staying traditional and EQ2 isn't from what you say. As i have mentioned before, change is hard, but those who deny change are doomed to repeat the mistakes of our past.
Also, articwolf, you should try to stop posting stupid stuff. It really shows your intellect.
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-EQ1 character:Grotub, shaman of the Tribunal server
Uilwen
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-Rhalon 85 B.E. rogue
-Rhalon 81 UD Mage
-Doneski 85 Orc death knight
"Everyones life has a beginning and an end, No one can change that."-Hiko
"If you wish to taste the ground, then feel free to attack."-Kenshin Himura
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Well of course.....every company has its good and its bads......SoE for instance....Lords of everquest.....that game kinnda crappy...wasn't bad...just wasn't as good as i thought.......I mean I;m sure blizz has had some bad games but look how many were good and succesful.......you know.....but i mean all companys have good and bad games........like AE for instance....HZ supposedly this big horrible game
but don't let past experiences effect your htoguhts on the companies ability to make a game now
Uilwen
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-Rhalon 85 B.E. rogue
-Rhalon 81 UD Mage
-Doneski 85 Orc death knight
"Everyones life has a beginning and an end, No one can change that."-Hiko
"If you wish to taste the ground, then feel free to attack."-Kenshin Himura
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LOL, okay I am kind of mellow today so I will just give facts instead of typing in bold and small type to try and efisise rage and mental instability.
Designers from blizzard have left and they are kind of working on giuld, facts on that ar'nt very clear. It was eaither the intire team of warcraft moved or one. No real information has been provided in other forums, and the news sites see it as old news so I can't get the articals again. As for Blizarrds records, If I recall 3 games have not made the big list of all time games in all charts. As for Blizzard makeing wow good. Please, I already said it was my opinion and that it could easily be as wrong as brunch. No one can for see the future, and I said it was my prediction already. As for other coments you made, propoganda was spread, I apologize, I did not mention games that did not make it to the top ten list of games in all charts. As for that, I stand by my statment that for a company that created several good games that are intinationally recognised, then they have my backing.
As for the creators and so on leaving blizard, if I read some where in the forums a conversation like this, I at lest know one of the original creators are on the world of warcraft team as the game moderators and beta testers were talking about it. (Can a beta tester for the game please come here and confirm this)
J.d.slanger-everything apeares to be a scam in this world when you first see it does'nt it.
J.d.slanger-everything apeares to be a scam in this world when you first see it does'nt it.
I heard it was the teram who was creating D3 left and started guild wars and blizz found another team to finish D3 and brawl with GW but apparently thats not tru because if it was we would have heard about D3 by now....
and even if the original team from WC3 left whats that mean???you could jsut as easily get someone who knwos RPGS alot better and teach them all about WC3 and they do something jsut as good if not better.....
and if you have atleast one original guy....then whats the big problem????there shouldn't be any if you ask me....because then theres atleas tone guy there that knows about the story and all...i am still waiting for this game and WoW-GW-and EQ2 are tied right now at the top of my list......
and i am neutral on the hwole which game is gonna be better then that game....
I think WoW-EQ2-Gw will all be good in all of there ways and all will get alot of good and bad feed back......
Uilwen
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WoW
-Rhalon 85 B.E. rogue
-Rhalon 81 UD Mage
-Doneski 85 Orc death knight
"Everyones life has a beginning and an end, No one can change that."-Hiko
"If you wish to taste the ground, then feel free to attack."-Kenshin Himura
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A lot of people will choose WoW over EQ2 because everquest lost its luster and people dont have faith that it will ever get it back.
in addition to this, its SOE, and a lot of people i konw despise SOE and refuse to play their games...Blizzard has a good record of making quality games with a lot of staying power(star craft+expansion, diablo series, Warcraft series)
i wont be playing either game because i am tired of the fantasy setting of elves and dwarves and all that stuff that seems so popular in video games(especially MMO's)
"Probably the saddest thing that you will ever see is a mosquito sucking on a mummy, forget it little friend."
--Jack Handey
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
J.d.slanger-everything apeares to be a scam in this world when you first see it does'nt it.
J.d.slanger-everything apeares to be a scam in this world when you first see it does'nt it.
Here's why...
Get this, after the last patch for WoW, they messed with the graphic engine a bit, but some side
effects of doing this resulted in the female night elves breasts becoming VERY VERY bouncy.
Now if that ain't a feature worth mentioning on the retail box of the game, what is?!
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"With every post, I lose just a little bit more of my sanity." -Dracius
Greee... Let me into the AMerician beta now. (GaurdianKing bangs o the doors to the world of warcraft) Let meeeeee in noooooooooowwww! I want to seeee, I want to seeeeeee. LOL!!!
Why have you forsaken me god, WHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HEHEHEHE! did not hear that one, then again I did not check the forum for the patch yet.
J.d.slanger-everything apeares to be a scam in this world when you first see it does'nt it.
J.d.slanger-everything apeares to be a scam in this world when you first see it does'nt it.
OMG look at my thread!!
LoL, little flame here on an afternoon a few weeks ago and look what I cook up. 12 pages jeeze thats a lot of chitter chatter. Not going to read it of course I assume the general opinion is EQII > WoW, that is agreeable by the official hype meter.
Keep this thread going baby never say die. Keep defending piddly WoW you just wait for EQII beta to start rolling.
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So you post about how you started this thread with a flame, then you come back neglect all that's been said and claim EQ2 the better game THEN go on to insult WoW and thus the people defending it, ON the WoW threads... So basicaly you start with a flame, and finish with a flame.
This thread has officialy loss my sponsorship.
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J.d.slanger-everything apeares to be a scam in this world when you first see it does'nt it.
J.d.slanger-everything apeares to be a scam in this world when you first see it does'nt it.
WoW has such cartoony graphics whats with it? Devs spend all day watching cartoons thats why EQII will be better.
EQII devs work
WoW devs watch cartoons and steal ideas from cartoons for their game
Azron.......
shut up......
Graphics do not make a game..........its story...gameplay....items......ETC.....
not graphics and only freakin graphics.....man people need to learn how to argue with facts and not just..."o the graphics are god so game will be god"
ok the graphics in WoW are tradition WC graphics......
they are keeping and using the graphics from WC3.....and i think the game looks really awesome
and so you know....
I have seen MANY games that look good...but yet are really bad......
want a list?
Good graphic flops
Starwars galaxies
some people would say Lineage 2
some people would say City of heroes
some people would say Horizons
But there are alot more out there......
so i mean seriosuly....get facts and argue....see i liek both wow and eq2 so if i need ot i will fight with facts on those....
Uilwen
Waiting for
Everquest 2
World of warcraft
Half-life 2
Guild wars
Currently playing
Everquest...45 wood elf Ranger
DAoC.....26 Paladin *albion*
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WoW
-Rhalon 85 B.E. rogue
-Rhalon 81 UD Mage
-Doneski 85 Orc death knight
"Everyones life has a beginning and an end, No one can change that."-Hiko
"If you wish to taste the ground, then feel free to attack."-Kenshin Himura
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Here is a list of reasons why <I> am going to play Eq2.
1. Locked encounters: When you engage a monster it becomes a locked encouter. This prevents kitting, kill stealing, loot stealing, ect. I think this is an awsome idea.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
2. Combat: The combat in Eq2 looks simply stunning. If you have watched some of the vidoes than you would know what i mean.
3. Guilds: Guilds are much more important in Eq2 than they were in Eq1. Guilds will compete with other guilds for prestige, honor, and favor with the rulers of their city. They are much more involved than in Eq1 where they were just names on a list. Guilds will be able to own guild houses too.
4. Families: They will consist of people with the last name. They will be important, just not as important as guilds. You will beable to notice what family a person is in by observing their last name.
5. Fellowships: They will consist of a maximum of 6 people. They will always share experiance with each other no matter where the other members are.
6. Housing: Players will beable to own their own housing. From instanced appartment style housing, to massive guild mansions. The appartment style will be easy to obtain, but the stand alone housing will mostly only be obtainable by the highest level guilds.
7. Races: There will be 16 playable races. From the shortest gnome, to the tallest ogre.
8. Classes: There will be a total of 46 classes. Eq2 implements a branching style, where you choose what path to take as you advance.
9. Character customization: Players will beable to customize their appearance with complete control. Giving them even more options on how to make their character exactly the way they want them to be.
10. Lore/history: Eq2 will have an unimagianble amount of lore and history. All of this will play an important role in gameplay and guests.
11. NPCs with voices: Every NPC in Eq2 will have their own voice. NPCs will actually call out to you if they have a quest that you are capable of doing.
12. Artisan class: The artisan can get experiance from using their skill. They don't have to fight a single monster ever. They live sort of "normal" lives, having a job, and getting money from it.
13. Tradeskills: Tradeskills are much more advanced and indepth in Eq2 than in any other. Eq2 has a revolutionary system. Instead of just click, click, click, WOOT!!! i made a sword. You actually have to "engage" the furnace and craft your item. You have to keep the tempreture at a right level, and you have to work with the metal to form the desired result.
14. Two starting cities: In Eq2 there will be only 2 starting cities, which is an awsome idea. These will always be populated because there are only 2. Each will have around 17 zones each, making them massive. They will provide a hub for trading and traveling. In most mmorpgs with many starting cities, you end up with only one or two actually being populated with people. The others are compelety abondoned. There are only 2 starting cities, but there are more than 2 cities, just they are alot smaller and less important.
15. Exploration: Exporlation will be an important factor in Eq2. With no one knowing what happened to the rest of Norath it will be your job to explore and learn.
16. Boats: Boats will be the primary mode of transportation in Eq2. Players will beable to actually naviagte boats instead of them being on a set course. There of course will be set routes for some boats. But players can guide some boats. Allowing them more freedom in where they want to go.
17. Graphics: The graphics in Eq2 are simply amazing. Just look at this picture:
Look at the detail, you can actually see the veins in the guy's hands and neck.
I can go on, but i won't at this time.
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-EQ1 character:Grotub, shaman of the Tribunal server
I Have to say you have a point i like alot of SOE's ideas also but i am going WoW and i do that even though i played EQ for like 2 years.
1 Big reasen for not choosing EQII is simply that they are destroying the genre mmorpg i dont understand how they can call it an mmorpg.mmo[rpg] (role playing game) lol where are the roleplaying in a world where there are 2 cities i mean who would roleplay an ogre when they live in the same city as some races like halflings and humans. The homecitys in EQ was something IMPORTANT when it comes to roleplaying. I played an halfling and what made the EQ world so specail for me was that every time you played some other character you got another experiance, Halflings with their burrows and their small round doors were very charming! Barbarians and their crude houses in Halas where there are always winter, i mean imagian yourself playing a Barbarian again your favo race and the character you built started in FREEPORT!!
That would realy suck. Another game that looks realy good are Vanguard which is being made by the people that made the ORIGINAL EQ not the corrupted version we have now days with tons of expansions just destroying the game.
Hukkan Leafstorm explorer of the world of Norrath.
Hukkan Leafstorm explorer of the world of Norrath.