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For those that think it's Vaporware........
Read this. This was written back in April as far as I can tell and as the author of the article states,"Hey, at least now we know the game actually exists...". This may be old news and if it is I'm sorry. Just that all the talk about Darkfall being 'vaporware' is apparently very misguided.
Bren
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Its really old news and there is another thread about it but for new people its good i guess.
Let them think Darkfall is vaporware. F them
Played almost everything...
Currently playing nothing...
Waiting for: Darkfall, WAR, Guild Wars 2.
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As much as I like the sound of all Darkfall's features and all, I dont take this as definitive proof that there is a working version of the game in existence.
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I doubt it is vaporware. There are arguments for both sides but we honestly just have to wait and see.
They've had a playable demo on a server that they've shown to publishers. Theres an old alpha video showing pvp through a player's view. There are people playing the game such as the forum adminstrator of DF forums(he isnt an aventurine employee).
That definition is so vague that any game could fall under that category(Aoc, War, ect).
yea of course they arent
People have played DF recently, and in public.
umm wish they had a vid of it ><
This would be my fav DF vid: Here
I guess thats not Vaporware either?
Until members of the public are in beta, whether I see videos or not, there is no game imo. The developers family members and people on the payroll hardly count as a public beta.
I do not feel that Darkfall is vaporware using the definition that the game basically does not exist in any form - I think it is being actively developed. I do feel, however, that people are going to be disappointed if they believe in this game and what it claims it will deliver.
Forget about beta, have they ever even let people (like press) play a demo? Even something simple, like swinging a sword, killing an enemy, and calling it a day? As far as I know, no. This is a major problem when it comes to people taking your product seriously.
The developer has massive plans, and they sure do sound grand, but there has been no proof that any of this exists, at all. Some screenshots and short movies are something, but not enough to constitute proof, especially after such a long development cycle. The developer also has never released anything previously, and certainly not an MMOG, and even more certainly not a AAA MMORPG. This is a cause for concern - people expect them to succeed on a grand scale with absolutely no proven track record.
After 6+ years of development they have shown nothing that indicates they have finished even 1/100 of what the game is supposed to be. Naval battles, totally free PvP, epic warfare...that is a lot to promise when you cannot even show something basic.
Anyway, I am glad this game is exciting people, and I genuinely do hope it delivers everything it claims and is a smashing success - it sounds like a game I'd enjoy. However, I doubt this will happen and must marvel at the people who firmly believe it will. There is a fine line between faith and being hopelessly gullible, and I think the hardcore Darkfall believers fall into the latter category.
Then again, I suppose we all want something to believe in, and after so many MMORPG disappointments, grasping at an impossible dream might make sense. Unfortunately, I think this will end in a nightmarish flop, if it even comes to market at all, something I doubt considering no publisher is yet secured.
they been showing publishers xD and the promises they made are already in just need tweaking or something SO HA
they havent said if they got 1 or not
Prove it.
D.
dev journal 13 they say its almost feature complete which means all the features they promised you can believe them if you want but when it goes to beta i can just laugh at the people that didnt believe them they have no gain from lieing to us
Doesn't prove anything. What do they have to gain? Ongoing support in their forums, etc. Could give them a show of force to a potential publisher or money lender to keep them going. I.E. showing how much community support and potential money gain is out there for their product.
Honestly, I hope the game does come out, and I hope it has even half of what they promised.
D.
they already stated that they ahve plenty of funding and they jsut pulled a 20 mill loan dude you cant argue with me ive seen all that i need to see to believe the devs PLUs to get apublisher they have to show off the game stfu
Until you have proof of this loan, which don't forget could be a scam, this game should be considered vaporware. How many years has is been in development? No one has played it, and probably no one ever will. I wish this game would be released. I couldn't sleep when I heard about it, it sounded awesome. Two years later, barely any real updates, I see this game being the same as Shadowbane.
I'm not a fanboy, I'm not a "hater" I just look at the facts, and the only standing facts are:
Game hasn't had any real public updates in some time.
Game hasn't moved in development in YEARS.
No beta forthcoming.
This should be enough proof in any rational persons mind to consider this game, "postponed indefinitely", aka, "shelved" aka "vaporware".
I really wished this game would be released, there's just NO evidence it really will be.
actuyada yada yada the year ind ev is BECAUSE SMALLER TEAM THEN MERGER THEN REDOING OF GRAPHICS AND ENGINE ?UPGRADE THEN THEy DECIDE TO GET IT AS COMPLETE AS POSSIBLE BEFORE BETA CAN YOU READ THIS
let me guess you dont have a darkfall forum account do you there dev journal every 2 weeks they updated there page wiht more info a month or 2 back or something heh so yea
With the latest news to be uncovered, it appears Aventurine has procured a 20 million Euro convertible bond ($27.5m USD) loan with Marfin Bank[27] at the behest of Proton Investment Bank of Greece[28]. Now I'm not expert in MMORPG development and distribution, and I wouldn't pretend to be, but when last ditch desperation investments from big name has-beens like Interplay, throwing every shred of their capability into one Last Hurrah that is Fallout Online, confidently dedicate what is assumed to be an overkill amount of $75m USD to the pre-production, development, and publishing of a software[29] I can't help but think that no more than $25m of that would be dedicated to initial server hosting and publishing. Without much enthusiasm or presumption, I would submit that the wait for Darkfall is over. $27.5m loans tend to be a bitch to pay off interest on, especially when sitting squarely on your laurels. The clamps are most certainly down, and Aventurine is financially committed to the launch of Darkfall whether they like it or not. Whether that's a good thing or not is also yet to be seen, because for the first time in its long development Darkfall Online is subject to the most dreaded of all development problems: time constraints.
found here http://www.revolutiong.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-874.html
most of thatt hing explains y the delayed the first tiem so tech thegame bene in dev for only 4 years or less full time dev of course