check your vid dates. they're all really old. dev journals arent really that good since that has nothing to do with the game other than show that there are people. and the preview, well yeah they met with the people but the stuff they said is the same stuff they've been saying forever.
So evidence of existance ceases to be evidence once it becomes a couple years old? Riiight.
Hope you got your things together. Hope you are quite prepared to die. Looks like we're in for nasty weather. ... There's a bad moon on the rise.
Its freaky that so many people still believe in Darkfall. Can you see that this is a hoax? Aventurine either serves other -shady- purposes (greece is the perfect country for that) or they are plain stupid. Either way you are not getting a game from them.
Its freaky that so many people still believe in Darkfall. Can you see that this is a hoax? Aventurine either serves other -shady- purposes (greece is the perfect country for that) or they are plain stupid. Either way you are not getting a game from them.
First, why would it be a hoax? How does that benefit anyone? I'm not giving them money for anything. They aren't receiving anything of value for saying they are creating a game. It makes no sense why people just can't leave the topic alone like they are doing something wrong.
They really aren't, whether a game comes out or not, they aren't breaking any laws, they are just trying to develop a game. I really don't understand why people are so up in arms about this.
Amateur developers, sure. It happens all the time with projects like this. But a hoax? When has any game's development been a hoax? In what way would they be profiting from it?
To suggest that it will not be released or will not succeed is perfectly reasonable hypothesis, but words like 'hoax' in this context are just hilarious and could only be typed by someone who has no experience in, or knowledge of, this industry.
It is distressing to see such irrationality coming from a supposed 27-year-old like Huxflux2004. Grow up.
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I personally don't see this game releasing at all...but not for any bias of my own or anything.
It stands to logic that if they last updated the graphics in 2003 that another update is necessary to keep up with modern games. With the development time that update would take beta is atleast another year or 2 off, and with people already doomsaying on this there is no doubt that it will flop either way.
7 years is a loooooooooong time, even for an ametuer company and they've released no new screens or vids in a long time to show that anything new has happened. Then asp releases a preview with nothing new in it as well and we are supposed to jump for joy? No thanks....proof or it didn't happen.
Amateur developers, sure. It happens all the time with projects like this. But a hoax? When has any game's development been a hoax? In what way would they be profiting from it? To suggest that it will not be released or will not succeed is perfectly reasonable hypothesis, but words like 'hoax' in this context are just hilarious and could only be typed by someone who has no experience in, or knowledge of, this industry. It is distressing to see such irrationality coming from a supposed 27-year-old like Huxflux2004. Grow up.
Hmm, perhaps you need to reacquaint yourself with this industry that you claim to know so well. lf you've never heard of MMOs being scams let me remind you of two off the top of my head; Dark and Light and Mourning.
Amateur developers, sure. It happens all the time with projects like this. But a hoax? When has any game's development been a hoax? In what way would they be profiting from it? To suggest that it will not be released or will not succeed is perfectly reasonable hypothesis, but words like 'hoax' in this context are just hilarious and could only be typed by someone who has no experience in, or knowledge of, this industry. It is distressing to see such irrationality coming from a supposed 27-year-old like Huxflux2004. Grow up.
I am Greek and I work abroad for the mmorpg industry as a coder of one the currently most hyped and anticipated mmorpgs. Trust me, you dont have the slightest idea of how things work in Greece, nor the mmo industry.
BTW, do they have a producer? Or maybe it is too early. lol. Or maybe they plan to not have a producer at all, like NCSoft, a directly comparable company....
HERE is a video of some gameplay. THIS shows a leaked combat video. THIS is a leaked video, pretty small... but hey its there HERE is an official video showing a mount. THIS is a video/screenshot compilation by a fan highlighting some Darkfall features. THIS is one of my favourites. Shows some gameplay etc. THIS is ASP's review. You may have read it, but just incase you havent. THESE are alot of official screenshots. THESE are alot of dev journals.
So... What more proof do you want? Are you still going to post "DARKFALL NEVER COMING OMFG" posts? Have ANY of you that claim its never coming out ever seen all of that? Have you ever read up on their homepage? Do you think all those features can take any less than how ever long they're taking? Just another thing I'd like to add. LOTRO took 5 years to make, not that its a bad game I really like it, but does it even have 30% of the features Darkfall wishes to have? I dont think so... Now decide, whether you're gonna remain to be a troll that says its never coming out ... Or will you finally agree that it IS being made, just taking darn long.
P.S. Please do not post senseless one sentence posts like "ITS NOT COMING" without having seen all of the videos/screenies/readups ive posted. Thanks, I hope you enjoyed those.
So are one sentence Threads like "Its Coming!" from DF fanbois any better?
Really I think DF might someday be released. Personally looking at some of the facts I don't think it will be released anytime soon (end of next year the earliest IMO, after All Asp didn't even get to play a current build and beta is still over the horizon somewhere called soon, and we already know from past experience with DF soon is not a few months.)
I'd have to say why is it every other day one of the same 5-6 fanbois has to post a thread saying DF is for real! DF is coming! DF is the greatest!. When it seems that DF is not really that close to release. To prove the nay sayers wrong? Kinda doubtfull as it seem there are far more "Darkfall in coming!" threads then "Darkfall is Vaporware!" It just seems to get old all this DARK FALL IS COMING! Month after month after year.
I do hope Darkfall comes out and if at all possible soon for its Fanbois, But realistically I don't see it being the second coming or even the greatest game ever as some of the Fans here state. There's just too many people with different play styles and IMO FFA PVP isn't the majority of MMORPG gamers, though it does have its niche.
I bet 50% of the haters, after Darkfall is released (whenever that is, I just hope its soon), are gonna start playing it and fall in love with it. Oh and as a side thought, I do think a new Ultima Online using the Unreal 3 engine (lol,i love that engine ) or something comes out with all the same features, just some added better stuff and kinda like FPSish or something. That would rock.
I'll take that bet, after all you call all the haters trolls right? generally that means they really don't care about a game other then to bash it.
Now second point You may love FFA PVP games but that doesn't mean everyone does. I believe that alot of the DF haters as you call trhem probably don't care much for the FFA PVP playstyle. If the game is released its not gonnna magicxally turn everyone into FFA PVP fans sorry to burst your bubble.
So.. i dont post much but ive been around these forums for a LONG time and.... just as i think about.. if it takes this long for these guys to go gold and release the final product.. how long do you think your going to get update/content patches? Lol... come on
Originally posted by winter Now second point You may love FFA PVP games but that doesn't mean everyone does. I believe that alot of the DF haters as you call trhem probably don't care much for the FFA PVP playstyle. If the game is released its not gonnna magicxally turn everyone into FFA PVP fans sorry to burst your bubble.
I think there are enough people that want something new and different that they would at least give it a try, even some of those that might normally be against ffa pvp.
But the question is, will they stick around. The answer to that lies entirely in the players hands, in my opinion. If the game is just a mindless gankfest, than we will have a repeat of UO (a mass exodus of fed up players leaving). However, if by some chance that DOESNT happen, where people kill for a reason and not just because they can, people might find themselves charmed. I think the best way to make it happen is for the so called 'good guys' to end up being the ones in power, which will give people hope and a reason to stay. If a ganker guild gets to the top, it has a domino affect that influences every player and inevitably drives people away.
To be honest I think its the ganker that will be predominant force BUT.... I intent to fight that as best I can and enjoy the trip when that fresh server comes up, even if the road ultimately leads to a mass exodus and the game dying.
Waiting for: A skill-based MMO with Freedom and Consequence. Woe to thee, the pierce-ed.
You know what... id put money on it ( A nice amount btw) that this game does NOT RELEASE in 2008 , hell id even pay somebody 100$ through paypal if it did.. but its not .. like alot of people sare saying this game is going to become vaporware, im neither a troll or a Fanboy but geesh just look @ its development cycle..its just not going to work out... yea .. so if the game ever does release just think about how long its going to take for content to even come out.
Just seeing the development in this game it just seems that this isnt going to get off the ground.
Really it development cycle tells you that? So i guess that means TF2 doesnt actually exist because of its development cycle(Which was longer than DF).
Old videos, not much progress info apart some canned developer journals, a beta policy using "we only get active members in" as an excuse... If it smells like vaporware, sounds like vaporware, and looks like vaporware, you can bet that it's vaporware.
Did you know TF went through something similar except on a larger time table? So apparently your senses are off.
Old videos, not much progress info apart some canned developer journals, a beta policy using "we only get active members in" as an excuse... If it smells like vaporware, sounds like vaporware, and looks like vaporware, you can bet that it's vaporware.
If it smells like troll, sounds like troll, and looks like Troll, you can bet that it's Troll.
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Darkfall is an illusion of the perfect mmorpg, a fairy tale made up for the gamers to give them hope that they will someday find the game they are looking for...
Darkfall is an illusion of the perfect mmorpg, a fairy tale made up for the gamers to give them hope that they will someday find the game they are looking for...
DF is an oppertunity as a consumer to tell the gaming industry that we want more skillbased sandbox games. Levelbased, themepark games are getting old fast. Jumping on the vapor wagon isn't going to help if you actually wants to play DF or one game like it one day.
--- And when we got more women on the team, it was like No, no, no. We need puppies and horses in there. John Smedley, SOE
Funny, the fanboys insult me and put me on ignore because I'm not addicted to a game that doesn't even exist (aka not even in beta) yet. Some people really need a reality check. Mocking the post count of someone and using it as a base to judge what he posted is also quite funny, shows the superior maturity of the person.
I've been following this for years now, I'm an old fart (39) and played most MMOs since the very beginning of the genre, and I have seen so many games like Darkfall, very promising, and the devs even posting very nice screenshots, only to prove either to be utter crap or to never be released.
Now I wish I'm wrong, hell, I HOPE to be proved wrong, and that the game comes out and is good and polished, because this seems the closest to oldschool Ultima Online that we ever had, and if we can get that in 3D with modern technology I'll be the first to be a hardcore fan.
But please, do yourself a favor, don't be a fanatic of something you didn't even give a try yet. Any MMO veteran can tell you it's only the door open to big disapointments.
Respect, walk, what did you say? Respect, walk Are you talkin' to me? Are you talkin' to me? - PANTERA at HELLFEST 2023
Wait you call it vaporware and than say it was because your not addicted to the game that a rebuttal was given? No it was the fact that what you speak of is some sort of actual evidence when in reality is not. So no its not because your not fanatical but that you believe you can take a vague similarity and string them together to make a fact. So please make all the generalizations you want about it but I could just as easily create a few showing the oppisote so its hardly any support for your argument.
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so who gives you the power to say there pulling everyone legs when it has been proven the game is stil in dev and there not pulling are legs LOl
so who died and made you god?
If that poor excuse for a sentence was directed at me....
If you're trying to prove something exists the burden of proof lies with you not me.
Otherwise, anyone can claim anything. I claim Santa Clause exists... show me irrefutable proof that he doesnt.
See? Its ridiculous... just like Darkfall and its fanbois.
So evidence of existance ceases to be evidence once it becomes a couple years old? Riiight.
Hope you got your things together. Hope you are quite prepared to die. Looks like we're in for nasty weather. ... There's a bad moon on the rise.
Its freaky that so many people still believe in Darkfall. Can you see that this is a hoax? Aventurine either serves other -shady- purposes (greece is the perfect country for that) or they are plain stupid. Either way you are not getting a game from them.
They really aren't, whether a game comes out or not, they aren't breaking any laws, they are just trying to develop a game. I really don't understand why people are so up in arms about this.
Amateur developers, sure. It happens all the time with projects like this. But a hoax? When has any game's development been a hoax? In what way would they be profiting from it?
To suggest that it will not be released or will not succeed is perfectly reasonable hypothesis, but words like 'hoax' in this context are just hilarious and could only be typed by someone who has no experience in, or knowledge of, this industry.
It is distressing to see such irrationality coming from a supposed 27-year-old like Huxflux2004. Grow up.
Its on the internet, so it must be true!!
I personally don't see this game releasing at all...but not for any bias of my own or anything.
It stands to logic that if they last updated the graphics in 2003 that another update is necessary to keep up with modern games. With the development time that update would take beta is atleast another year or 2 off, and with people already doomsaying on this there is no doubt that it will flop either way.
7 years is a loooooooooong time, even for an ametuer company and they've released no new screens or vids in a long time to show that anything new has happened. Then asp releases a preview with nothing new in it as well and we are supposed to jump for joy? No thanks....proof or it didn't happen.
Hmm, perhaps you need to reacquaint yourself with this industry that you claim to know so well. lf you've never heard of MMOs being scams let me remind you of two off the top of my head; Dark and Light and Mourning.
I am Greek and I work abroad for the mmorpg industry as a coder of one the currently most hyped and anticipated mmorpgs. Trust me, you dont have the slightest idea of how things work in Greece, nor the mmo industry.
BTW, do they have a producer? Or maybe it is too early. lol. Or maybe they plan to not have a producer at all, like NCSoft, a directly comparable company....
Really I think DF might someday be released. Personally looking at some of the facts I don't think it will be released anytime soon (end of next year the earliest IMO, after All Asp didn't even get to play a current build and beta is still over the horizon somewhere called soon, and we already know from past experience with DF soon is not a few months.)
I'd have to say why is it every other day one of the same 5-6 fanbois has to post a thread saying DF is for real! DF is coming! DF is the greatest!. When it seems that DF is not really that close to release. To prove the nay sayers wrong? Kinda doubtfull as it seem there are far more "Darkfall in coming!" threads then "Darkfall is Vaporware!" It just seems to get old all this DARK FALL IS COMING! Month after month after year.
I do hope Darkfall comes out and if at all possible soon for its Fanbois, But realistically I don't see it being the second coming or even the greatest game ever as some of the Fans here state. There's just too many people with different play styles and IMO FFA PVP isn't the majority of MMORPG gamers, though it does have its niche.
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Now second point You may love FFA PVP games but that doesn't mean everyone does. I believe that alot of the DF haters as you call trhem probably don't care much for the FFA PVP playstyle. If the game is released its not gonnna magicxally turn everyone into FFA PVP fans sorry to burst your bubble.
So.. i dont post much but ive been around these forums for a LONG time and.... just as i think about.. if it takes this long for these guys to go gold and release the final product.. how long do you think your going to get update/content patches? Lol... come on
These forums are hilarious.
The Darkfall fanboys get so riled up so easily there's just no end to the comedy here.
I think there are enough people that want something new and different that they would at least give it a try, even some of those that might normally be against ffa pvp.
But the question is, will they stick around. The answer to that lies entirely in the players hands, in my opinion. If the game is just a mindless gankfest, than we will have a repeat of UO (a mass exodus of fed up players leaving). However, if by some chance that DOESNT happen, where people kill for a reason and not just because they can, people might find themselves charmed. I think the best way to make it happen is for the so called 'good guys' to end up being the ones in power, which will give people hope and a reason to stay. If a ganker guild gets to the top, it has a domino affect that influences every player and inevitably drives people away.
To be honest I think its the ganker that will be predominant force BUT.... I intent to fight that as best I can and enjoy the trip when that fresh server comes up, even if the road ultimately leads to a mass exodus and the game dying.
Waiting for: A skill-based MMO with Freedom and Consequence.
Woe to thee, the pierce-ed.
You know what... id put money on it ( A nice amount btw) that this game does NOT RELEASE in 2008 , hell id even pay somebody 100$ through paypal if it did.. but its not .. like alot of people sare saying this game is going to become vaporware, im neither a troll or a Fanboy but geesh just look @ its development cycle..its just not going to work out... yea .. so if the game ever does release just think about how long its going to take for content to even come out.
Just seeing the development in this game it just seems that this isnt going to get off the ground.
Really it development cycle tells you that? So i guess that means TF2 doesnt actually exist because of its development cycle(Which was longer than DF).
Old videos, not much progress info apart some canned developer journals, a beta policy using "we only get active members in" as an excuse...
If it smells like vaporware, sounds like vaporware, and looks like vaporware, you can bet that it's vaporware.
Respect, walk
Are you talkin' to me? Are you talkin' to me?
- PANTERA at HELLFEST 2023
^ what he said
Did you know TF went through something similar except on a larger time table? So apparently your senses are off.
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And when we got more women on the team, it was like No, no, no. We need puppies and horses in there.
John Smedley, SOE
Darkfall is an illusion of the perfect mmorpg, a fairy tale made up for the gamers to give them hope that they will someday find the game they are looking for...
DF is an oppertunity as a consumer to tell the gaming industry that we want more skillbased sandbox games. Levelbased, themepark games are getting old fast. Jumping on the vapor wagon isn't going to help if you actually wants to play DF or one game like it one day.
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And when we got more women on the team, it was like No, no, no. We need puppies and horses in there.
John Smedley, SOE
Funny, the fanboys insult me and put me on ignore because I'm not addicted to a game that doesn't even exist (aka not even in beta) yet. Some people really need a reality check. Mocking the post count of someone and using it as a base to judge what he posted is also quite funny, shows the superior maturity of the person.
I've been following this for years now, I'm an old fart (39) and played most MMOs since the very beginning of the genre, and I have seen so many games like Darkfall, very promising, and the devs even posting very nice screenshots, only to prove either to be utter crap or to never be released.
Now I wish I'm wrong, hell, I HOPE to be proved wrong, and that the game comes out and is good and polished, because this seems the closest to oldschool Ultima Online that we ever had, and if we can get that in 3D with modern technology I'll be the first to be a hardcore fan.
But please, do yourself a favor, don't be a fanatic of something you didn't even give a try yet. Any MMO veteran can tell you it's only the door open to big disapointments.
Respect, walk
Are you talkin' to me? Are you talkin' to me?
- PANTERA at HELLFEST 2023
Wait you call it vaporware and than say it was because your not addicted to the game that a rebuttal was given? No it was the fact that what you speak of is some sort of actual evidence when in reality is not. So no its not because your not fanatical but that you believe you can take a vague similarity and string them together to make a fact. So please make all the generalizations you want about it but I could just as easily create a few showing the oppisote so its hardly any support for your argument.