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90%?
Wow.. where'd you read that?
Didn't you hear? He is an MMO sociologist and conducts surveys to find out who likes to pay monthly fees for...NOT. Stupid ass people always whining about fees. Shut up, pay them, and STOP BEING SO CHEAP AND PARANOID.
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Darkfall: December or vaporware!
GRRR I am absolutely sick of you people.
Mods feel free to delete this.. i'm about to speak what you and everyone good player out there wants to freaken say... it shall be brutal
STOP FREAKEN WHINING!
You all want freebies.. that's all you EVER want.. you never want to pay them the money they deserve for their hardwork and dedication.
You don't have a clue what it takes to make a game as complex as these. I know. I'm a designer my self. People like you make people like me hesitant to release our titles, because well your pricks.
You want it all and don't want to give anything in return. You think because your casual or only play 2-3 times a month that you deserve it for FREE.
No.. no you don't. That's YOUR choice. Not mine. Not theirs. You can CHOOSE to play more or less. That's your problem.
You're LUCKY they are even offering a free part to the game and you're whining about it. They also are only charging 10 bucks compared to 15 bucks. Yet you STILL complain.
GWs gets away with being totally free because they have like 5 expansions. Several online "packages" to buy and unlock skills. They also have more games they are developing that allow cash flow.. you think you are playing for free. Everytime you pay into an expansion.. that's not free idiot.
You can play this game for free. You can get the new content by BUYING the expansion. OR you can pay a monthly fee and get the expansions for FREE. In the end it's roughly the same damn amount of fking money!
The only benefit of the no monthly fee is for people that DO play 2-3 days, but even then 10 bucks a month is a GOOD deal for even 2 days. Why? It costs more then 10 bucks to go out and have ONE DAY of enjoyment.. ONE! So you get 2-3 days out of that 10 bucks.. that's BETTER then what you can get practicly anywhere else.
If you find an awesome place to have a killer time for FREE.. then cool, but that's RARE.. really RARE..
As I said before.. you're a bunch of punk kids that are living off mommy and daddys paycheck and are whining because they won't pay the bill.
If you arn't.. shoot your self for being a pathetic cheap bastard.. i'd hate to be your partner (if you even have one).. i bet he/she gets a snack candy bar as a anniversey gift huh? Cheapo..
You act like 10-15 bucks is A GOD AWFUL TON OF MONEY! It's 10 bucks! Chump pocket change! It helps the company because it adds up.. but to us as payers.. it's NOTHING.. NOOOOTTTHIIIINNNGGGG.. it isn't good money.. it isn't hard earned money.. it is pocket money.. if you think otherwise.. you're doing something wrong financially.
How about a car.. is that really fun? How much does it cost..
How about a cell phone.. is that really fun? How much does it cost..
How about a movie.. is that really fun? How much does it cost...
How about a dinner.. is that really fun? How much does it cost...
How about a drink.. is that really fun? How much does it cost..
Now ask your self.. how long does each last. 1 day or 30 days. Now multiply their costs by 30 days or by the amount of days you may play Hellgate. NOW compare that costs to 10 BUCKS, which is better..
You have this option.. buy the game.. try it for FREE.. if it sucks.. don't subscribe.. ebay your copy.. it's a no loss guarantee.. you just tried a full release for FREE.. TA FREAKEN DA.. use your brain people.
If you play 2-3 days.. and enjoy those 2-3 days.. then it's WORTH THE MONEY IF YOU ENJOY IT AND YOU WON'T THINK TWICE ABOUT IT.
Shesh... /rant off
You people are just complaining to complain.. hope ya get hit by a bus... cya
[ Played ] 2Moons, Anarchy Online, City of Heroes, City of Villains, Dark Age of Camelot, Everquest, Everquest II, Guild Wars, HellGate: London, Lord of the Rings Online, Rappelz, RF Online, Shadowbane, Star Wars Galaxies, Sword of the New World, Tabula Rasa, Vanguard: Saga of Heroes, World of Warcraft, Last Chaos
[ Playing ] Everquest II
[ Waiting ] Aion, Age of Conan
90%?
Wow.. where'd you read that?
Exactly my thoughts. 90% so exact? Did you conduct a massive survey that represents the actual gaming and potential gaming population? A poll here is not representative of the entire gaming population.
If a game is fun, $10 a month is a very reasonable charge. What else can you do with $10? A few take away dishes? As a gamer, try to support those that does an honest trade. Without a sizable subscription base, MMO as an industry will vanish.
I have doubts about HGL I have cancelled my preorders, but, for reasons other than the $10. I am not saying HGL is worth $10. I have to play the game before I can decide for MYSELF. I have doubts about their engine searching my PC. Sorry, until I feel comfortable about this, I am not installing the beta client.
Oh , i am sorry my customer base statistic company is closed over night so i can not confirm the results.
But ok .. i lied - it is not 90% but 85.6231%
Truth is
People defending the subscription here are handfull of dedicated fanboys.
Majority of gamers frown even upon TRUE MMO subscriptions.
Hellgate London had a chance of being MAINSTREAM GAME
But with SUBSCRIPTION it is just a bad MMO that does not worth the money.
Anyway , as somebody said before in this post ( edited to prevent posters searching for excuse to flame )
Go and pay subscription for something that should be free , and would be free if EA didnt put their paws into the game.
I rather pay 15$ for another MMO than 10$ for cooperative network rpg
90%?
Wow.. where'd you read that?
Exactly my thoughts. 90% so exact? Did you conduct a massive survey that represents the actual gaming and potential gaming population? A poll here is not representative of the entire gaming population.
If a game is fun, $10 a month is a very reasonable charge. What else can you do with $10? A few take away dishes? As a gamer, try to support those that does an honest trade. Without a sizable subscription base, MMO as an industry will vanish.
I have doubts about HGL I have cancelled my preorders, but, for reasons other than the $10. I am not saying HGL is worth $10. I have to play the game before I can decide for MYSELF. I have doubts about their engine searching my PC. Sorry, until I feel comfortable about this, I am not installing the beta client.
Oh , i am sorry my customer base statistic company is closed over night so i can not confirm the results.
But ok .. i lied - it is not 90% but 85.6231%
Truth is
People defending the subscription here are handfull of dedicated fanboys.
Majority of gamers frown even upon TRUE MMO subscriptions.
Hellgate London had a chance of being MAINSTREAM GAME
But with SUBSCRIPTION it is just a bad MMO that does not worth the money.
Anyway , as somebody said before in this post
A sucker is born every day. Go and pay subscription for something that should be free , and would be free if EA didnt put their paws into the game.
I rather pay 15$ for another MMO than 10$ for cooperative network rpg
I didn't realize I was a dedicated fanboy... I thought I just pre-ordered this game a few weeks ago with no prior knowledge of what it is... BUT if you say I was there all along, then I guess I can't fight the facts. After all you are the czar of right, and we are all floating on the sea of wrong.
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Darkfall: December or vaporware!
If you're going to make troll posts, at least try to make it a little less obvious and a little more believable.
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JonMichael
Currently: AION, an MMO Beta under NDA
Played: WAR, LOTRO, Hellgate: London, CoX, GW, SotNW, DAOC, EQ2, SWG, WoW, AO, Horizons, Second Life, There, TSO
Beta'd: There, Second Life, EQ2, DAOC:LotM, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, Gods and Heroes, Hellgate: London, Requiem:Bloodymare, AoC, WAR, DDO, Fallen Earth
Personally I like the $10 monthly fee for Hardcore and Elite modes. Mainly because it'll keep most of the little kids and the infamous free to play game froobs that come in and like to destroy everyone elses good time. Dunno if you don't agree with the sub then don't play the game, and don't bitch about it neither because if your not playing the game then you have no ground to bitch about something that your not even part of.
The subscription fees of wow really kept the kids out of the game didn't it?
Wow..I personally am SICK and tired of these people..Look at me I'm better than you! And I shall WHINE as well but I can because I'm whining about all the WHINING. Unfortunately, this person isn't just egotistical, he HAS to be better than 'us' why? Because he's a GAME DESIGNER! OMG! REALLY?! Does your game use ENGLISH in it? If so..please look up YOUR and YOU'RE. I mean after all these mega million dollar games you must have designed to be such an expert, you MUST have been able to find THAT error? No? *hrms*
Anyway, please try to stay away from "You all" because it makes you looks stupid. You cannot possibly know what EVERYONE wants. Well ok, sure yes EVERYONE wants free stuff, it's human nature
As for not having a clue what it takes to make a game as complex as these? Well I'm sorry you're wrong there..I'm a programmer, so I know it isnt easy to make an MMO. Lots of time lots of man hours blahblahblah.
And well from "You want it all...." all the way till about the end of your rant..It is just pointless horse pucky. You whine and complain, compare games to games, cry some more, make more rude and assuming comments about 'us' (Do you feel better about yourself?) So you think that 10 bucks a month is pocket change? A spit in the bucket? Stuff you can find in your couch? Well listen here Mr money bags..if it's so cheap then how about you PAY for my month subscription to Hellgate, or SHUT THE HELL UP.
Hellgate doesnt need to be subscribed to, to be played. Paying the subscription gets you more stuff, but you can play it FINE without it. Did Battle.net cost extra? (Ok honestly I dont know I stayed the heck AWAY from it..evil hacking cheating bastages)
From now, till the 'end of days' people will agree to disagree on the concept of "Paying to play a game they bought" Be it WoW, EQ, GW, EVE, HGL or any other game out there. You will find people who say "Sure what's 15 bucks compared to a month of movies/dinners" or the "I just shelled out 70 bucks for a game AND I have to pay 15 bucks a month to play it?! WTF?!" It's the nature of the beast.
Personally I'm going to pick up HGL, the game looked good, the beta was better than the demo. Don't know if I CARE for the 'bonuses' for being a subscriber or not, but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.
Until the next Whiner needs to be kicked in the teeth,
Play safe, have fun. and remember the words of a wise man...
Aurguing on the internet is like racing in the special olympics, you might win, but you're still a !@#$%^^%$%$%@%%@% retard. (no offense meant towards special needs children)
90%?
Wow.. where'd you read that?
Exactly my thoughts. 90% so exact? Did you conduct a massive survey that represents the actual gaming and potential gaming population? A poll here is not representative of the entire gaming population.
If a game is fun, $10 a month is a very reasonable charge. What else can you do with $10? A few take away dishes? As a gamer, try to support those that does an honest trade. Without a sizable subscription base, MMO as an industry will vanish.
I have doubts about HGL I have cancelled my preorders, but, for reasons other than the $10. I am not saying HGL is worth $10. I have to play the game before I can decide for MYSELF. I have doubts about their engine searching my PC. Sorry, until I feel comfortable about this, I am not installing the beta client.
Oh , i am sorry my customer base statistic company is closed over night so i can not confirm the results.
But ok .. i lied - it is not 90% but 85.6231%
Truth is
People defending the subscription here are handfull of dedicated fanboys.
Majority of gamers frown even upon TRUE MMO subscriptions.
Hellgate London had a chance of being MAINSTREAM GAME
But with SUBSCRIPTION it is just a bad MMO that does not worth the money.
Anyway , as somebody said before in this post
A sucker is born every day. Go and pay subscription for something that should be free , and would be free if EA didnt put their paws into the game.
I rather pay 15$ for another MMO than 10$ for cooperative network rpg
First "the TRUTH" is we are all fanboys, even when I clearly indicate I am NOT buying even the box, nor even the free beta. Oh great logic. Great truth.
Then we are the minority because the majority hates even true MMO subscription, so that includes the fanboys. By the way, what is the majority? 51% of taxpayers or 52% of the voting citizens or 53% of the classmates who eats donuts with you? Do you know each and everyone of the majority to be sure that they really loath the minority and not just loath you? Do the majority know the minority one by one in person? If not who is hating who? Just somebody called majority hating someone else called minority, even tho they never know each other? Hmm great logic again. I think your reasoning department is closed as well as your statistical workshop.
Suddenly, we are no longer fanboys, we are suckers. Because you feel something should be free for you? So anyone who have a differenent valuation will be a sucker? Did you ever consider buying a ferrari or Mercedes? I bought one for 1.5million bucks (lies), since you cannot afford it, I am a sucker? Or are you just jealous?
Your would rather pay $15 for another MMO, big deal. Do we need to stop buying and waiting till you toss your $15 and follow your footsteps? I think MMORPG.com should fold up and we all stop discussing till you decide which another MMO is worth your precious $15. Hmm, you said the majority of gamer frown upon a true MMO, should you not be avoiding all MMOs? Why are you still watching MMORPG.com?
Come on, gives a a break. You can reason, without insults and nonsense statistics thrown all over the place. Can you? Since you are here how about a few hints on how to reason.
(1) Don't try to pretend to be correct by saying "the truth is ...". Few of us know the truth, not even the national statistics bureau of gov't. Do you know that even a full census is not always 100% correct? Statistics 101.
(2) Avoid pretenious accuracies. You do not know 90% nor do you know about the majority. THE TRUTH IS (mimicking your way of speech) you might not know anyone outside your class or neighborhood. So you know no one (my guess). Before you give out a statistics, first give me a count of every gamer, and then list their names and age, and their game preference. Stop trying to look scientific by saying "THE MAJORITY". Who is in your list of majority? How do you count majority? Do you know that the majority need not mean 50%+? Political Science 101.
(3) avoid labelling people. Each and every person is unique. Someone who agrees with you on pricing of HGL may not agree with you on the quality of the game nor will they always agree with your taste on dresses and shirts. One label is not enough for 1 person, let alone "the MAJORITY" or 90% or whatever.
(4) do not finish an argument by forcefully stating your preference. You are Mr Nobody, so am I. We all are, and we collectively form a community called MMORPG.com during our casual idle hours. Your preference is good as reference if you back it up with reasons, and only as a REFENENCE. Frankly I care not what you want to do with your $15. It would barely buy me a lunch downtown.
Good point, MMORPG's should probably cost 30 or 40 bucks a month..just to keep out the riff raff...
Except it'd get a bit expensive to pay for multiple accounts like I do...so I guess I'm glad that's not the case.
As to the OP's topic... no, Flagship isn't ripping people off. The idea of free gaming doesn't relate in my world anyways, I know there is nothing that is free in this world, someone has to pay for it somehow, somewhere. Usually that person ends up being me, while other folks prefer to sponge off of others.
I'm not sure I'm going to buy it now, the demo didn't impress and unfortunately, Gamestop didn't come through on their promise to get me into the beta for a bit.
I might download it for free after it goes live to see how the real game is, and if it turns out to be more fun than the demo, I'll pay for a copy. (though I do think the current 50.00 fees the game box is currently selling for will rapidly drop towards the 25.00 mark)
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
If you're going to make troll posts, at least try to make it a little less obvious and a little more believable.
Whats up with you and this "where you got that information from" argument ?
When you say "today is a warm day" does your Mom asks you :
"Son where did you get that information from ? Can you prove it ?"
If we are talking in this tone, than , where did you get the information to prove otherwise ?
And as for troll posts , you are the one that is trolling here. You have no arguments whatsoever , you only jumped on my post here trying to ignite some kind of argument - unfortunately i am easily provoked and that is why i am posting this
Anyway , all I am saying (withouth having dedicated statistical institute behind this claims -ed ) - judging on the common sense. And what i read on the net - HGL subscription plan is not very popular by regular gamers. (People on this site are diferent - because all of them consider online fees A-OK , guess that makes us MMO players) HGL was highly anticipated because people thought it will be same as Battlenet Diablo, or at least Guild Wars. And sub model crushed that dream.
HGL forums on my native language , went dead in moment subscription was announced - at least that is a prove you wanted behind my claims.
But well ... enough bickering from my side.
I wish you all best paying HGL.
I am off to paying a REAL MMO
It actually did. WoW is filled with kids/l337 gamers, but it would be 100x worse without a subscription fee.
If you're going to make troll posts, at least try to make it a little less obvious and a little more believable.
Whats up with you and this "where you got that information from" argument ?
When you say "today is a warm day" does your Mom asks you :
"Son where did you get that information from ? Can you prove it ?"
If we are talking in this tone, than , where did you get the information to prove otherwise ?
And as for troll posts , you are the one that is trolling here. You have no arguments whatsoever , you only jumped on my post here trying to ignite some kind of argument - unfortunately i am easily provoked and that is why i am posting this
Anyway , all I am saying (withouth having dedicated statistical institute behind this claims -ed ) - judging on the common sense. And what i read on the net - HGL subscription plan is not very popular by regular gamers. (People on this site are diferent - because all of them consider online fees A-OK , guess that makes us MMO players) HGL was highly anticipated because people thought it will be same as Battlenet Diablo, or at least Guild Wars. And sub model crushed that dream.
HGL forums on my native language , went dead in moment subscription was announced - at least that is a prove you wanted behind my claims.
But well ... enough bickering from my side.
I wish you all best paying HGL.
I am off to paying a REAL MMO
Listen to Mr.
, geez!! Calm down, just because people don't argue the way you like doesn't mean they are saying you are less of an idiot. Just because you can afford the $10 for some reason, you only went to high school and work at the gas station? It's okay! Do you accept Paypal donations? I assume your "REAL MMO" is Maplestory.
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Darkfall: December or vaporware!
Lobotomist, you've been bashing this game since before you even played it. We get the point. For whatever reason you don't like the game. Well yippy skippy doo. You've made your point, so pick up some other game to rip on. Your trolling in here just makes you look like a stubborn idiot.
Contrary to popular belief on this board (by people so full of themselves that it make me sick), there are lots of people looking very forward to this game. There are also lots of people who will be happy to pay the subscription fee, because we would actually prefer to see the game and judge it for ourselves. We don't care what people like you think, and we never will.
So just do everyone a favor and shut your stinkin' piehole. You're annoying in every sense of the word. I don't rip on people like this normally, but you're just asking for it. As I stated earlier (and it bears repeating), this jerk was bashing this game BEFORE he played it! At this point, he's played the demo (the whole five levels), and wants to act like he has some valuable insight to provide us. The fact of the matter is that he has some sort of retarded vendetta for whatever reason, which makes his contribution to the discussion of this game completely worthless.
If you're going to make troll posts, at least try to make it a little less obvious and a little more believable.
Whats up with you and this "where you got that information from" argument ?
When you say "today is a warm day" does your Mom asks you :
"Son where did you get that information from ? Can you prove it ?"
If we are talking in this tone, than , where did you get the information to prove otherwise ?
And as for troll posts , you are the one that is trolling here. You have no arguments whatsoever , you only jumped on my post here trying to ignite some kind of argument - unfortunately i am easily provoked and that is why i am posting this
Anyway , all I am saying (withouth having dedicated statistical institute behind this claims -ed ) - judging on the common sense. And what i read on the net - HGL subscription plan is not very popular by regular gamers. (People on this site are diferent - because all of them consider online fees A-OK , guess that makes us MMO players) HGL was highly anticipated because people thought it will be same as Battlenet Diablo, or at least Guild Wars. And sub model crushed that dream.
HGL forums on my native language , went dead in moment subscription was announced - at least that is a prove you wanted behind my claims.
But well ... enough bickering from my side.
I wish you all best paying HGL.
I am off to paying a REAL MMO
If his mom told him the weather was warm, it could easily be proven, by pointing to a thermometer. You can not substantiate any of the claims you make, therefore that was a terrible thing to compare it to.
So since you hear people crying on a forum over a subcription fee, then the majority of gamers have a problem with it? You do realize that the majority of a game's fanbase do NOT post on the forums right? Alot of the time, people only goto the forums if they want to whine about something. Therefore alot of official forums are filled with whiners. When you are enjoying the game, and happy with the way things are, there isn't much of a need to post.
People who want their games for free are pretty sad, and woefully ignorant of what goes into creating a game; much less maintaining and updating an online game (mmos included.) Did you know that every game created operates are a financial deficit for quite a while after release? Companies spend millions of dollars developing these games, including creating servers for people to play on BEFORE they see one red cent.
This is true of even single player, non-networked games. That's why they charge $50 per unit to buy the game; to make up some of their money and hopefully turn a profit. Unfortunately, not all games turn a profit. Anyone remember Earth and Beyond? I enjoyed that game and paid the subscription fee. I was one of the few who did. So what happened? The game was abandoned by EA because it wasn't making a profit.
Aside from development costs, there's the cost of maintaining servers and continual development to rectify issues with the software, provide content updates, and provide technical support for users too ignorant to fix their own computers and figure out WHY the game isn't working. Hence, we have subscription charges to cover these costs.
Yes, the end desire for the company is to turn a profit, but first they have to recoup their losses in developing the game in the first place. Some games take years to start showing a profit after all the investment has been returned, others do it more quickly.
The point is, the company is there to make a profit. If you don't want to pay for their game, you don't get to play their game. You don't even enter into their statistics. You're lucky they're throwing in any sort of free online play (free after you pay for the box, that is). Complaining about free online play is like complaining about a free meal. If you don't like it, don't eat it, but to complain about it is just plain selfishness.
Jeez ,
People calm down.
So I think the game is not worth 10$ month. Its not the end of the world.
Its not like MY oppinion will make HGL sell any more or less.
I am just giving arguments why I will not pay the sub.... You give yours. Lets be civil
No reason to get all in the knot over this.
You started slinging mud, don't blame if some hit you.
Fanboy is not an insult. It means simply a fan of the game, and it is nothing to be ashamed of.
For instance i am Fanboy of NWN , and i am proud of it.
And PLEASE i never called anyone sucker - this is SO taken out of content. I said suckered - meaning cheated
Anyway , i see i am largely outnumbered in this topic.
Most people posting here clearly see HGL subscription as justified. And there is really no reason to continue this discusion from my side.
I find this to be a very simple .
You can play the game for free if you choose to.
You can do a monthly subscription if you choose to.
You can pay the Founders subscription if you choose to.
You don't even have to buy the game if you choose to.
The point is, it is all about choices. NOBODY is forcing you to pay a monthly for the game. This complaint about a monthly fee is getting old, especially on a site where most of us at one time or another paid 15 bucks a month for a mmo subscription.
I think most people would agree that we all would not want to pay a monthly fee at all but it is clearly up to the individual if they want to pay a fee for a game or not. In most mmo games they don't even give you a choice if you can play for free. They tell you right off the bat it costs you 15 bucks to play or you don't play at all. Atleast FSS provides you with many options on how you want to play the game.
How dishonest can you be, you never mention sucker? You edited your message posted yesterday 11:15pm, but you forgot to edit my quote of your original posting. Tke a look at what you actually wrote at 11:15pm. Editing it out now won't make you look better. It only confirms you are a liar.
Originally posted by Lobotomist
90%?
Wow.. where'd you read that?
Exactly my thoughts. 90% so exact? Did you conduct a massive survey that represents the actual gaming and potential gaming population? A poll here is not representative of the entire gaming population.
If a game is fun, $10 a month is a very reasonable charge. What else can you do with $10? A few take away dishes? As a gamer, try to support those that does an honest trade. Without a sizable subscription base, MMO as an industry will vanish.
I have doubts about HGL I have cancelled my preorders, but, for reasons other than the $10. I am not saying HGL is worth $10. I have to play the game before I can decide for MYSELF. I have doubts about their engine searching my PC. Sorry, until I feel comfortable about this, I am not installing the beta client.
Oh , i am sorry my customer base statistic company is closed over night so i can not confirm the results.
But ok .. i lied - it is not 90% but 85.6231%
Truth is
People defending the subscription here are handfull of dedicated fanboys.
Majority of gamers frown even upon TRUE MMO subscriptions.
Hellgate London had a chance of being MAINSTREAM GAME
But with SUBSCRIPTION it is just a bad MMO that does not worth the money.
Anyway , as somebody said before in this post
A sucker is born every day. Go and pay subscription for something that should be free , and would be free if EA didnt put their paws into the game.
I rather pay 15$ ...
The dudes just mad cuz his allowance is $5 short of the subscription fee. Nuff said.
wow.. Dont even know where to begin.
10$ for a "diablo clon" (for the lack of a better word) is imo more than fair. I have spent more time on D2 than most other games. And paying 10 bucks a months is fine by me. If ppl we feel cheated or whatever by that.. Well ehm.. Take a look around and smell the roses. More and more games are launched this way. Its easier for the companies to fix bugs, and add content that the player base really wants. And in the end youll end up paying about the same for the game.
And just a few clarifications.
1: I have no itentions of playing the game. (no time)
2: THERE IS A MOFO FREE SECTION YOU CAN PLAY IN IF YOU DONT WANNA SUB. Stop complaining allready ?
3: Fanboy is one of the worst slangs to ever have hit the MMO/RPG sceane. It was first used on 11 year old wow fanboy´s who made life a hell for everyone els. Saying that its just "you a fan of this game" is pathetic and simply just not true. You however are clearly a NWN fanboy. So go post on ther forums and leave the rest of us alone to talk like meaby not adults but atleast at a level above 3rd grade.
/Manix
I see no problems with paying a monthly fee for this game if indeed they roll out the content like they say they are. What are the differences from the current monthly fee games out there?
HGL
10 bucks a month
Content continually added
A few perks like added storage and harder modes
The Others
15 bucks a month
Content added when they release a expansion that you have to buy ( few minor exceptions but nothing on the scale that I am lead to belive Flagship will do )
A few perks added IF you buy the expansion
F2P
No monthly fee
Very little if any added content
A few perks IF you buy them via a cash store or somthing along that line.
I think HGL has the right idea
Sometimes people get extremely upset when you tell them something they know is true (or partly true) but they won't admit it.
I mostly see those defending the fee get really mean, not so much those saying, they won't pay.
I can't help but wonder
Anyways, I largely agree with you. I won't pay, because I don't think the game is worth the money. Other people think otherwise and feel they get enough from the game for the money. Since it's their money, they can do with them as they want.
So you are not alone, I just don't think it is a fight worth fighting to discuss it.
Anyways, good gaming to all those getting the game