Those still crying about the NGE need to get out of your parent's basement and get a life. It's dead, it's not coming back. No matter how blue your face becomes or how loud you cry, it's not going to bring it back. And I'm willing to bet that 100% of those that are crying for the Pre-CU to come back were the ones that would flood the SWG forums with whines on how broken the game was in the Pre-CU days. It's time to take off those rose tinted glasses because Pre-CU was a broken mess. Anyone remember losing items when crossing zone lines? Rubber banding when just trying to travel across a planet? Or the myriad of broken classes or broken quests? Yeah, lets bring back the buggy, broken POS that was Pre-CU. Fuhyo
Yeah, I remember all those things.
Yes, I will still "cry" about the game they stole from me.
Go troll somewhere else.
Edit: and one more thing...I am tired of people saying "cry more, get out of your parents basement and get a life." Who has less of a life? Someone who is upset about something that was stolen from them or someone who trolls forums to try to instigate flame wars? For the record... I have a life. And again for the record, I still miss the life they took from me in the game.
Those still crying about the NGE need to get out of your parent's basement and get a life. It's dead, it's not coming back. No matter how blue your face becomes or how loud you cry, it's not going to bring it back. And I'm willing to bet that 100% of those that are crying for the Pre-CU to come back were the ones that would flood the SWG forums with whines on how broken the game was in the Pre-CU days. It's time to take off those rose tinted glasses because Pre-CU was a broken mess. Anyone remember losing items when crossing zone lines? Rubber banding when just trying to travel across a planet? Or the myriad of broken classes or broken quests? Yeah, lets bring back the buggy, broken POS that was Pre-CU. Fuhyo
If they shut SWG down today what do you think it's current subscribers would do?
Or better yet.... if they removed Jedi and Bounty Hunters today what do you thin those current subscribers would do?
Those still crying about the NGE need to get out of your parent's basement and get a life. It's dead, it's not coming back. No matter how blue your face becomes or how loud you cry, it's not going to bring it back.
And I'm willing to bet that 100% of those that are crying for the Pre-CU to come back were the ones that would flood the SWG forums with whines on how broken the game was in the Pre-CU days. It's time to take off those rose tinted glasses because Pre-CU was a broken mess.
Anyone remember losing items when crossing zone lines? Rubber banding when just trying to travel across a planet? Or the myriad of broken classes or broken quests? Yeah, lets bring back the buggy, broken POS that was Pre-CU.
Fuhyo
A lot of what you're saying is STILL in SWG right now. Apparently you don't understand what it is the vets want. The vets wanted Pre CU to be FIXED!! not ripped apart and turned into the NGE, which is a joke by comparison.
I guess what you don't realize is that the reason why they did the NGE was because they couldn't fix the Pre-CU game. They would fix one thing and it would cause other things to break. They couldn't add new things because it would break the game, etc. Pre-CU SWG was an unfixable POS. Take off those rose tinted glasses, it's about time you and the others did.
Originally posted by Fuhyo Those still crying about the NGE need to get out of your parent's basement and get a life. It's dead, it's not coming back. No matter how blue your face becomes or how loud you cry, it's not going to bring it back. And I'm willing to bet that 100% of those that are crying for the Pre-CU to come back were the ones that would flood the SWG forums with whines on how broken the game was in the Pre-CU days. It's time to take off those rose tinted glasses because Pre-CU was a broken mess. Anyone remember losing items when crossing zone lines? Rubber banding when just trying to travel across a planet? Or the myriad of broken classes or broken quests? Yeah, lets bring back the buggy, broken POS that was Pre-CU. Fuhyo
A lot of what you're saying is STILL in SWG right now. Apparently you don't understand what it is the vets want. The vets wanted Pre CU to be FIXED!! not ripped apart and turned into the NGE, which is a joke by comparison.
I guess what you don't realize is that the reason why they did the NGE was because they couldn't fix the Pre-CU game. They would fix one thing and it would cause other things to break. They couldn't add new things because it would break the game, etc. Pre-CU SWG was an unfixable POS. Take off those rose tinted glasses, it's about time you and the others did. Fuhyo
and 2 years later, it's STILL a joke! What they've "fixed" is minimal in comparison to what's STILL in game (take a look at the bug reports players have been posting in their forums, someone even posted them here). I'd like to see your response to what other users here have said about your post considering I'm not the only who responded. Or do you feel I'm the "easiest" to respond and discredit? There are bugs and issues still present, bugs that the NGE was "supposed" to fix! Yet they're STILL there!
Those still crying about the NGE need to get out of your parent's basement and get a life. It's dead, it's not coming back. No matter how blue your face becomes or how loud you cry, it's not going to bring it back.
And I'm willing to bet that 100% of those that are crying for the Pre-CU to come back were the ones that would flood the SWG forums with whines on how broken the game was in the Pre-CU days. It's time to take off those rose tinted glasses because Pre-CU was a broken mess.
Anyone remember losing items when crossing zone lines? Rubber banding when just trying to travel across a planet? Or the myriad of broken classes or broken quests? Yeah, lets bring back the buggy, broken POS that was Pre-CU.
Fuhyo
A lot of what you're saying is STILL in SWG right now. Apparently you don't understand what it is the vets want. The vets wanted Pre CU to be FIXED!! not ripped apart and turned into the NGE, which is a joke by comparison.
I guess what you don't realize is that the reason why they did the NGE was because they couldn't fix the Pre-CU game. They would fix one thing and it would cause other things to break. They couldn't add new things because it would break the game, etc. Pre-CU SWG was an unfixable POS. Take off those rose tinted glasses, it's about time you and the others did.
Fuhyo
You are sadley misinformed.
They did have a fix for it. The had a balance system in process. It was called the CURB, they had been working on it for months before they scrapped it for the CU. They could have made the game much better and more stable, HOWEVER, they saw the money WoW was pulling in and decided that their game wasnt easy enough to get new players into. Hence the NGE came about. Dont believe me? Read some of the interviews with Smed and the Dev crew...they have all said it or made reference to it. Get your facts straight before you start trying to discredit other people.
Those still crying about the NGE need to get out of your parent's basement and get a life. It's dead, it's not coming back. No matter how blue your face becomes or how loud you cry, it's not going to bring it back.
And I'm willing to bet that 100% of those that are crying for the Pre-CU to come back were the ones that would flood the SWG forums with whines on how broken the game was in the Pre-CU days. It's time to take off those rose tinted glasses because Pre-CU was a broken mess.
Anyone remember losing items when crossing zone lines? Rubber banding when just trying to travel across a planet? Or the myriad of broken classes or broken quests? Yeah, lets bring back the buggy, broken POS that was Pre-CU.
Fuhyo
A lot of what you're saying is STILL in SWG right now. Apparently you don't understand what it is the vets want. The vets wanted Pre CU to be FIXED!! not ripped apart and turned into the NGE, which is a joke by comparison.
I guess what you don't realize is that the reason why they did the NGE was because they couldn't fix the Pre-CU game. They would fix one thing and it would cause other things to break. They couldn't add new things because it would break the game, etc. Pre-CU SWG was an unfixable POS. Take off those rose tinted glasses, it's about time you and the others did.
Fuhyo
lol maybe you should take off your crap-coloured glasses too, cause pre-CU wasn't as bad as some people like to claim.
And maybe it had something to do with the development team focusing on unwanted things to the game before addressing key issues. We were constantly given the excuse that SOE had different teams working on different areas. Well, if you ask me it sounds like they didn't manage their dev team effectively.
Why did we have an expansion added to a broken game? Wouldn't it have made more sense to have the resources spent on correcting those issues rather then working on an expansion?
No, I say that the game wasn't broken but rather the management was.
I guess what you don't realize is that the reason why they did the NGE was because they couldn't fix the Pre-CU game. They would fix one thing and it would cause other things to break. They couldn't add new things because it would break the game, etc. Pre-CU SWG was an unfixable POS. Take off those rose tinted glasses, it's about time you and the others did.
Fuhyo
You really need to get your facts straight before you post. However, if Pre-CU was never changed I would still play it with the bugs that were in the game then. Even if they never got fixed I would play Pre-CU. It was as great as I think because I played it from beta to CU. I remember all the good times and the bad, with the former being more numerous.
I can only think of 2 times when any bugs in the game made the game unenjoyable. I cant count the numerous times I would play far too late because I lost track of time having fun.
Although honestly the perfect time to rollback for me would be pre Jedi grind era.
Those still crying about the NGE need to get out of your parent's basement and get a life. It's dead, it's not coming back. No matter how blue your face becomes or how loud you cry, it's not going to bring it back.
And I'm willing to bet that 100% of those that are crying for the Pre-CU to come back were the ones that would flood the SWG forums with whines on how broken the game was in the Pre-CU days. It's time to take off those rose tinted glasses because Pre-CU was a broken mess.
Anyone remember losing items when crossing zone lines? Rubber banding when just trying to travel across a planet? Or the myriad of broken classes or broken quests? Yeah, lets bring back the buggy, broken POS that was Pre-CU.
Fuhyo
A lot of what you're saying is STILL in SWG right now. Apparently you don't understand what it is the vets want. The vets wanted Pre CU to be FIXED!! not ripped apart and turned into the NGE, which is a joke by comparison.
I guess what you don't realize is that the reason why they did the NGE was because they couldn't fix the Pre-CU game. They would fix one thing and it would cause other things to break. They couldn't add new things because it would break the game, etc. Pre-CU SWG was an unfixable POS. Take off those rose tinted glasses, it's about time you and the others did.
Fuhyo
Thats just what SOE has said to hide the fact they don't know what they were/are doing. They could of fixed the game if they wanted to. The sad fact is they never really tried to fix the game. And nerfing is not a fix. Which is all the Devs were good for.
Originally posted by Fuhyo I guess what you don't realize is that the reason why they did the NGE was because they couldn't fix the Pre-CU game. They would fix one thing and it would cause other things to break. They couldn't add new things because it would break the game, etc. Pre-CU SWG was an unfixable POS. Take off those rose tinted glasses, it's about time you and the others did. Fuhyo
To the common MMO evil $OE who exiled hundered of thousands Star Wars gamer with CU / NGE crap patches. Learned to hold and fight with a Pistol, fought with swords , axes, hammer, stun batton, rifle, lightining cannon... with my bare hands and with a lightsaber too. Served dishes, clothed people, build buildings, selled spices, crafted RIS, T21, and a AV 21 speeder too. I feigned death , healed wounds and revived . Collected eggs , DNA 'd me a kimogila. i fished with pole, i hunted herbivore avian meat for doc, crafted buff lasting 3h 50m. hunted for rancors at the vallay, for kimos in lok and ancient krayts on Tat. Was tired after fights and after i watching dancer in cantinas i feeled better, Played instruments, sang songs , expressed myself with dancing.gifted a holocron, bought holocrons, waited for the old man. Visited aurelia, captured a general, survived an village invasion, crafted my first lightsaber. Hided miles away from any other , got killed for bounty, killed for bounty, meet the force ranks, the jedi council. Joined a guild , placed a house , helped city become metropolis, hunted in solo group, looted crystals.... one day ..you destroyed my world...you EXILED me... 15.11..... you $OE deleted my posts about not destroying my world..... you $OE banned me for me asking about my world you $OE decline to restore the world , who offered me that rich experiences i made...... you $OE ignorant fools ...who victimezed me ..... NOW audit and may you notice this THE THOUSANDS OF PRE CU VETS MAKE THE DIFFERENCE
Um so are you gonna do this every year till your dead?
Yes what LA / SOE did was bad, but then alot of things in life are, most people get over it and move on, some obviously don't. However for your information your world was not destroyed its still all around you, and from the sounds of things probably misses you. Your pinning so much for your make believe world that doesn't exist that I imagine your missing out on a good part of the one that DOES exist.
Suggestion (and yes only a suggestion) gp put see a movie, live life alittle. Not saying you have to forget SWG ?LA /SOE if you see any of their products (and this means LA ones too) don't buy them vote with your wallet, rather then spend time here whinning about things you can not change.
Originally posted by ab29x Originally posted by Bane82 lol! I'm almost curious to see what it was Outlaw had to say... it seems a lot of his recent posts have been getting a mass deletion lol!
I'm gonna go with probably "Get a life" of some sort at the OP. Which is pretty much my thoughts as well.
I find it hard to believe that they would delete a post just for saying "get a life"
Those still crying about the NGE need to get out of your parent's basement and get a life. It's dead, it's not coming back. No matter how blue your face becomes or how loud you cry, it's not going to bring it back.
To the common MMO evil $OE who exiled hundered of thousands Star Wars gamer with CU / NGE crap patches. Learned to hold and fight with a Pistol, fought with swords , axes, hammer, stun batton, rifle, lightining cannon... with my bare hands and with a lightsaber too. Served dishes, clothed people, build buildings, selled spices, crafted RIS, T21, and a AV 21 speeder too. I feigned death , healed wounds and revived . Collected eggs , DNA 'd me a kimogila. i fished with pole, i hunted herbivore avian meat for doc, crafted buff lasting 3h 50m. hunted for rancors at the vallay, for kimos in lok and ancient krayts on Tat. Was tired after fights and after i watching dancer in cantinas i feeled better, Played instruments, sang songs , expressed myself with dancing.gifted a holocron, bought holocrons, waited for the old man. Visited aurelia, captured a general, survived an village invasion, crafted my first lightsaber. Hided miles away from any other , got killed for bounty, killed for bounty, meet the force ranks, the jedi council. Joined a guild , placed a house , helped city become metropolis, hunted in solo group, looted crystals.... one day ..you destroyed my world...you EXILED me... 15.11..... you $OE deleted my posts about not destroying my world..... you $OE banned me for me asking about my world you $OE decline to restore the world , who offered me that rich experiences i made...... you $OE ignorant fools ...who victimezed me ..... NOW audit and may you notice this THE THOUSANDS OF PRE CU VETS MAKE THE DIFFERENCE
Um so are you gonna do this every year till your dead?
Yes what LA / SOE did was bad, but then alot of things in life are, most people get over it and move on, some obviously don't. However for your information your world was not destroyed its still all around you, and from the sounds of things probably misses you. Your pinning so much for your make believe world that doesn't exist that I imagine your missing out on a good part of the one that DOES exist.
Suggestion (and yes only a suggestion) gp put see a movie, live life alittle. Not saying you have to forget SWG ?LA /SOE if you see any of their products (and this means LA ones too) don't buy them vote with your wallet, rather then spend time here whinning about things you can not change.
This will likely be the last year. SWG is not very likely to make it to next November. In fact, it's going to lucky to make it to the 5th anniversary of 6/26/03 if it even lasts that long.
My hopes is by 11/15/08 we are discussing the new KOTOR game that will be out in 2009 instead of only throwing eggs at Sony. Of course we will STILL be throwing insults at SOE, always.
Those still crying about the NGE need to get out of your parent's basement and get a life. It's dead, it's not coming back. No matter how blue your face becomes or how loud you cry, it's not going to bring it back.
heh.....dont be so sure about that...
Even after 2 years, everytime I see a post like this I think "Yeah?"
Then it quickly passes to the realization its never gonna happen.
Those still crying about the NGE need to get out of your parent's basement and get a life. It's dead, it's not coming back. No matter how blue your face becomes or how loud you cry, it's not going to bring it back.
heh.....dont be so sure about that...
Even after 2 years, everytime I see a post like this I think "Yeah?"
Then it quickly passes to the realization its never gonna happen.
i would say more, but they seem to ban people who talk like this lol
Those still crying about the NGE need to get out of your parent's basement and get a life. It's dead, it's not coming back. No matter how blue your face becomes or how loud you cry, it's not going to bring it back.
And I'm willing to bet that 100% of those that are crying for the Pre-CU to come back were the ones that would flood the SWG forums with whines on how broken the game was in the Pre-CU days. It's time to take off those rose tinted glasses because Pre-CU was a broken mess.
Anyone remember losing items when crossing zone lines? Rubber banding when just trying to travel across a planet? Or the myriad of broken classes or broken quests? Yeah, lets bring back the buggy, broken POS that was Pre-CU.
Fuhyo
A lot of what you're saying is STILL in SWG right now. Apparently you don't understand what it is the vets want. The vets wanted Pre CU to be FIXED!! not ripped apart and turned into the NGE, which is a joke by comparison.
I guess what you don't realize is that the reason why they did the NGE was because they couldn't fix the Pre-CU game. They would fix one thing and it would cause other things to break. They couldn't add new things because it would break the game, etc. Pre-CU SWG was an unfixable POS. Take off those rose tinted glasses, it's about time you and the others did.
Fuhyo
You are sadley misinformed.
They did have a fix for it. The had a balance system in process. It was called the CURB, they had been working on it for months before they scrapped it for the CU. They could have made the game much better and more stable, HOWEVER, they saw the money WoW was pulling in and decided that their game wasnt easy enough to get new players into. Hence the NGE came about. Dont believe me? Read some of the interviews with Smed and the Dev crew...they have all said it or made reference to it. Get your facts straight before you start trying to discredit other people.
Yes, someone is misinformed and it's not me.
The reason why CURB was dumped for the most part (the combat upgrade was Phase I of CURB) was that it would have been too costly and it wouldn't have really fixed anything without basically re-wrting the game from scratch. NGE was the less costly option and it allowed them to keep the core game without having to radically change it like CURB would have. LucasArts and SOE didn't want to spend that kind of man power or money and both companies also misjudged the player base by thinking they wanted more of a "Battlefront" type of game. Yes, one of the options was to make SWG just like Battlefront but was nixed as a bad idea.
How do I know? I was a CSR from the time of launch until I moved on to GM another game at SOE shortly after NGE launch. Those of you that used to grind in the Singing Mountain Caves on Bloodfin might remember some of my raids there to clear the place out.
Those still crying about the NGE need to get out of your parent's basement and get a life. It's dead, it's not coming back. No matter how blue your face becomes or how loud you cry, it's not going to bring it back.
And I'm willing to bet that 100% of those that are crying for the Pre-CU to come back were the ones that would flood the SWG forums with whines on how broken the game was in the Pre-CU days. It's time to take off those rose tinted glasses because Pre-CU was a broken mess.
Anyone remember losing items when crossing zone lines? Rubber banding when just trying to travel across a planet? Or the myriad of broken classes or broken quests? Yeah, lets bring back the buggy, broken POS that was Pre-CU.
Fuhyo
A lot of what you're saying is STILL in SWG right now. Apparently you don't understand what it is the vets want. The vets wanted Pre CU to be FIXED!! not ripped apart and turned into the NGE, which is a joke by comparison.
I guess what you don't realize is that the reason why they did the NGE was because they couldn't fix the Pre-CU game. They would fix one thing and it would cause other things to break. They couldn't add new things because it would break the game, etc. Pre-CU SWG was an unfixable POS. Take off those rose tinted glasses, it's about time you and the others did.
Fuhyo
You are sadley misinformed.
They did have a fix for it. The had a balance system in process. It was called the CURB, they had been working on it for months before they scrapped it for the CU. They could have made the game much better and more stable, HOWEVER, they saw the money WoW was pulling in and decided that their game wasnt easy enough to get new players into. Hence the NGE came about. Dont believe me? Read some of the interviews with Smed and the Dev crew...they have all said it or made reference to it. Get your facts straight before you start trying to discredit other people.
Yes, someone is misinformed and it's not me.
The reason why CURB was dumped for the most part (the combat upgrade was Phase I of CURB) was that it would have been too costly and it wouldn't have really fixed anything without basically re-wrting the game from scratch. NGE was the less costly option and it allowed them to keep the core game without having to radically change it like CURB would have. LucasArts and SOE didn't want to spend that kind of man power or money and both companies also misjudged the player base by thinking they wanted more of a "Battlefront" type of game. Yes, one of the options was to make SWG just like Battlefront but was nixed as a bad idea.
How do I know? I was a CSR from the time of launch until I moved on to GM another game at SOE shortly after NGE launch. Those of you that used to grind in the Singing Mountain Caves on Bloodfin might remember some of my raids there to clear the place out.
Fuhyo
Then if it was so broken shouldn't we have been offered at least a refund on the inital purchase?
reading comprehension FTW... I said I miss the life they took from me IN THE GAME. I know alot of people that feel that way about the character they had in SWG because it was more like an on-line world. Get over yourself.
I like how most people like this say, "Get over yourself", and yet they still haven't moved from their SWG grief after two years.
Those still crying about the NGE need to get out of your parent's basement and get a life. It's dead, it's not coming back. No matter how blue your face becomes or how loud you cry, it's not going to bring it back.
And I'm willing to bet that 100% of those that are crying for the Pre-CU to come back were the ones that would flood the SWG forums with whines on how broken the game was in the Pre-CU days. It's time to take off those rose tinted glasses because Pre-CU was a broken mess.
Anyone remember losing items when crossing zone lines? Rubber banding when just trying to travel across a planet? Or the myriad of broken classes or broken quests? Yeah, lets bring back the buggy, broken POS that was Pre-CU.
Fuhyo
A lot of what you're saying is STILL in SWG right now. Apparently you don't understand what it is the vets want. The vets wanted Pre CU to be FIXED!! not ripped apart and turned into the NGE, which is a joke by comparison.
I guess what you don't realize is that the reason why they did the NGE was because they couldn't fix the Pre-CU game. They would fix one thing and it would cause other things to break. They couldn't add new things because it would break the game, etc. Pre-CU SWG was an unfixable POS. Take off those rose tinted glasses, it's about time you and the others did.
Fuhyo
You are sadley misinformed.
They did have a fix for it. The had a balance system in process. It was called the CURB, they had been working on it for months before they scrapped it for the CU. They could have made the game much better and more stable, HOWEVER, they saw the money WoW was pulling in and decided that their game wasnt easy enough to get new players into. Hence the NGE came about. Dont believe me? Read some of the interviews with Smed and the Dev crew...they have all said it or made reference to it. Get your facts straight before you start trying to discredit other people.
Yes, someone is misinformed and it's not me.
The reason why CURB was dumped for the most part (the combat upgrade was Phase I of CURB) was that it would have been too costly and it wouldn't have really fixed anything without basically re-wrting the game from scratch. NGE was the less costly option and it allowed them to keep the core game without having to radically change it like CURB would have. LucasArts and SOE didn't want to spend that kind of man power or money and both companies also misjudged the player base by thinking they wanted more of a "Battlefront" type of game. Yes, one of the options was to make SWG just like Battlefront but was nixed as a bad idea.
How do I know? I was a CSR from the time of launch until I moved on to GM another game at SOE shortly after NGE launch. Those of you that used to grind in the Singing Mountain Caves on Bloodfin might remember some of my raids there to clear the place out.
Fuhyo
Sure you were. Know what... I'll take the information I recieved from people who I know actually worked for the company and not some forum troll who claimed to.
reading comprehension FTW... I said I miss the life they took from me IN THE GAME. I know alot of people that feel that way about the character they had in SWG because it was more like an on-line world. Get over yourself.
I like how most people like this say, "Get over yourself", and yet they still haven't moved from their SWG grief after two years.
I havent? thanks for letting me know.
Because I post about the wrongs that SOE did with the game and that I miss it does not mean I havent moved on or still "grieve" for the game. But I do feel people need to remember what was done. And alittle bonding between people who had it done to them I dont see as a bad thing.
I dont make it a habit of attacking people for thier beliefs or views, unlike some.
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Yeah, I remember all those things.
Yes, I will still "cry" about the game they stole from me.
Go troll somewhere else.
Edit: and one more thing...I am tired of people saying "cry more, get out of your parents basement and get a life." Who has less of a life? Someone who is upset about something that was stolen from them or someone who trolls forums to try to instigate flame wars? For the record... I have a life. And again for the record, I still miss the life they took from me in the game.
Thalos Vipav
Star Wars Galaxies: R.I.P.
If they shut SWG down today what do you think it's current subscribers would do?
Or better yet.... if they removed Jedi and Bounty Hunters today what do you thin those current subscribers would do?
I guess what you don't realize is that the reason why they did the NGE was because they couldn't fix the Pre-CU game. They would fix one thing and it would cause other things to break. They couldn't add new things because it would break the game, etc. Pre-CU SWG was an unfixable POS. Take off those rose tinted glasses, it's about time you and the others did.A lot of what you're saying is STILL in SWG right now. Apparently you don't understand what it is the vets want. The vets wanted Pre CU to be FIXED!! not ripped apart and turned into the NGE, which is a joke by comparison.
Fuhyo
Good ole Bloodfin, still combative after all these years.
There are bugs and issues still present, bugs that the NGE was "supposed" to fix! Yet they're STILL there!
I guess what you don't realize is that the reason why they did the NGE was because they couldn't fix the Pre-CU game. They would fix one thing and it would cause other things to break. They couldn't add new things because it would break the game, etc. Pre-CU SWG was an unfixable POS. Take off those rose tinted glasses, it's about time you and the others did.A lot of what you're saying is STILL in SWG right now. Apparently you don't understand what it is the vets want. The vets wanted Pre CU to be FIXED!! not ripped apart and turned into the NGE, which is a joke by comparison.
Fuhyo
You are sadley misinformed.
They did have a fix for it. The had a balance system in process. It was called the CURB, they had been working on it for months before they scrapped it for the CU. They could have made the game much better and more stable, HOWEVER, they saw the money WoW was pulling in and decided that their game wasnt easy enough to get new players into. Hence the NGE came about. Dont believe me? Read some of the interviews with Smed and the Dev crew...they have all said it or made reference to it. Get your facts straight before you start trying to discredit other people.
Thalos Vipav
Star Wars Galaxies: R.I.P.
I guess what you don't realize is that the reason why they did the NGE was because they couldn't fix the Pre-CU game. They would fix one thing and it would cause other things to break. They couldn't add new things because it would break the game, etc. Pre-CU SWG was an unfixable POS. Take off those rose tinted glasses, it's about time you and the others did.A lot of what you're saying is STILL in SWG right now. Apparently you don't understand what it is the vets want. The vets wanted Pre CU to be FIXED!! not ripped apart and turned into the NGE, which is a joke by comparison.
Fuhyo
lol maybe you should take off your crap-coloured glasses too, cause pre-CU wasn't as bad as some people like to claim.
And maybe it had something to do with the development team focusing on unwanted things to the game before addressing key issues. We were constantly given the excuse that SOE had different teams working on different areas. Well, if you ask me it sounds like they didn't manage their dev team effectively.
Why did we have an expansion added to a broken game? Wouldn't it have made more sense to have the resources spent on correcting those issues rather then working on an expansion?
No, I say that the game wasn't broken but rather the management was.
My thoughts on SOE's reasoning for stealing Pre CU from it's players:
You really need to get your facts straight before you post. However, if Pre-CU was never changed I would still play it with the bugs that were in the game then. Even if they never got fixed I would play Pre-CU. It was as great as I think because I played it from beta to CU. I remember all the good times and the bad, with the former being more numerous.
I can only think of 2 times when any bugs in the game made the game unenjoyable. I cant count the numerous times I would play far too late because I lost track of time having fun.
Although honestly the perfect time to rollback for me would be pre Jedi grind era.
I guess what you don't realize is that the reason why they did the NGE was because they couldn't fix the Pre-CU game. They would fix one thing and it would cause other things to break. They couldn't add new things because it would break the game, etc. Pre-CU SWG was an unfixable POS. Take off those rose tinted glasses, it's about time you and the others did.A lot of what you're saying is STILL in SWG right now. Apparently you don't understand what it is the vets want. The vets wanted Pre CU to be FIXED!! not ripped apart and turned into the NGE, which is a joke by comparison.
Fuhyo
Thats just what SOE has said to hide the fact they don't know what they were/are doing. They could of fixed the game if they wanted to. The sad fact is they never really tried to fix the game. And nerfing is not a fix. Which is all the Devs were good for.
you're like, wrong and stuff.
I'm gonna go with probably "Get a life" of some sort at the OP. Which is pretty much my thoughts as well.
Yes what LA / SOE did was bad, but then alot of things in life are, most people get over it and move on, some obviously don't. However for your information your world was not destroyed its still all around you, and from the sounds of things probably misses you. Your pinning so much for your make believe world that doesn't exist that I imagine your missing out on a good part of the one that DOES exist.
Suggestion (and yes only a suggestion) gp put see a movie, live life alittle. Not saying you have to forget SWG ?LA /SOE if you see any of their products (and this means LA ones too) don't buy them vote with your wallet, rather then spend time here whinning about things you can not change.
I'm gonna go with probably "Get a life" of some sort at the OP. Which is pretty much my thoughts as well.
I find it hard to believe that they would delete a post just for saying "get a life"
heh.....dont be so sure about that...
Yes what LA / SOE did was bad, but then alot of things in life are, most people get over it and move on, some obviously don't. However for your information your world was not destroyed its still all around you, and from the sounds of things probably misses you. Your pinning so much for your make believe world that doesn't exist that I imagine your missing out on a good part of the one that DOES exist.
Suggestion (and yes only a suggestion) gp put see a movie, live life alittle. Not saying you have to forget SWG ?LA /SOE if you see any of their products (and this means LA ones too) don't buy them vote with your wallet, rather then spend time here whinning about things you can not change.
This will likely be the last year. SWG is not very likely to make it to next November. In fact, it's going to lucky to make it to the 5th anniversary of 6/26/03 if it even lasts that long.
My hopes is by 11/15/08 we are discussing the new KOTOR game that will be out in 2009 instead of only throwing eggs at Sony. Of course we will STILL be throwing insults at SOE, always.
heh.....dont be so sure about that...
Even after 2 years, everytime I see a post like this I think "Yeah?"Then it quickly passes to the realization its never gonna happen.
Thalos Vipav
Star Wars Galaxies: R.I.P.
heh.....dont be so sure about that...
Even after 2 years, everytime I see a post like this I think "Yeah?"Then it quickly passes to the realization its never gonna happen.
i would say more, but they seem to ban people who talk like this lol
I guess what you don't realize is that the reason why they did the NGE was because they couldn't fix the Pre-CU game. They would fix one thing and it would cause other things to break. They couldn't add new things because it would break the game, etc. Pre-CU SWG was an unfixable POS. Take off those rose tinted glasses, it's about time you and the others did.A lot of what you're saying is STILL in SWG right now. Apparently you don't understand what it is the vets want. The vets wanted Pre CU to be FIXED!! not ripped apart and turned into the NGE, which is a joke by comparison.
Fuhyo
You are sadley misinformed.
They did have a fix for it. The had a balance system in process. It was called the CURB, they had been working on it for months before they scrapped it for the CU. They could have made the game much better and more stable, HOWEVER, they saw the money WoW was pulling in and decided that their game wasnt easy enough to get new players into. Hence the NGE came about. Dont believe me? Read some of the interviews with Smed and the Dev crew...they have all said it or made reference to it. Get your facts straight before you start trying to discredit other people.
Yes, someone is misinformed and it's not me.
The reason why CURB was dumped for the most part (the combat upgrade was Phase I of CURB) was that it would have been too costly and it wouldn't have really fixed anything without basically re-wrting the game from scratch. NGE was the less costly option and it allowed them to keep the core game without having to radically change it like CURB would have. LucasArts and SOE didn't want to spend that kind of man power or money and both companies also misjudged the player base by thinking they wanted more of a "Battlefront" type of game. Yes, one of the options was to make SWG just like Battlefront but was nixed as a bad idea.
How do I know? I was a CSR from the time of launch until I moved on to GM another game at SOE shortly after NGE launch. Those of you that used to grind in the Singing Mountain Caves on Bloodfin might remember some of my raids there to clear the place out.
Fuhyo
The NGE allowed them to keep the core game? What exactly is the core they kept? what the planets looked like?
I guess what you don't realize is that the reason why they did the NGE was because they couldn't fix the Pre-CU game. They would fix one thing and it would cause other things to break. They couldn't add new things because it would break the game, etc. Pre-CU SWG was an unfixable POS. Take off those rose tinted glasses, it's about time you and the others did.A lot of what you're saying is STILL in SWG right now. Apparently you don't understand what it is the vets want. The vets wanted Pre CU to be FIXED!! not ripped apart and turned into the NGE, which is a joke by comparison.
Fuhyo
You are sadley misinformed.
They did have a fix for it. The had a balance system in process. It was called the CURB, they had been working on it for months before they scrapped it for the CU. They could have made the game much better and more stable, HOWEVER, they saw the money WoW was pulling in and decided that their game wasnt easy enough to get new players into. Hence the NGE came about. Dont believe me? Read some of the interviews with Smed and the Dev crew...they have all said it or made reference to it. Get your facts straight before you start trying to discredit other people.
Yes, someone is misinformed and it's not me.
The reason why CURB was dumped for the most part (the combat upgrade was Phase I of CURB) was that it would have been too costly and it wouldn't have really fixed anything without basically re-wrting the game from scratch. NGE was the less costly option and it allowed them to keep the core game without having to radically change it like CURB would have. LucasArts and SOE didn't want to spend that kind of man power or money and both companies also misjudged the player base by thinking they wanted more of a "Battlefront" type of game. Yes, one of the options was to make SWG just like Battlefront but was nixed as a bad idea.
How do I know? I was a CSR from the time of launch until I moved on to GM another game at SOE shortly after NGE launch. Those of you that used to grind in the Singing Mountain Caves on Bloodfin might remember some of my raids there to clear the place out.
Fuhyo
Then if it was so broken shouldn't we have been offered at least a refund on the inital purchase?
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I like how most people like this say, "Get over yourself", and yet they still haven't moved from their SWG grief after two years.
I guess what you don't realize is that the reason why they did the NGE was because they couldn't fix the Pre-CU game. They would fix one thing and it would cause other things to break. They couldn't add new things because it would break the game, etc. Pre-CU SWG was an unfixable POS. Take off those rose tinted glasses, it's about time you and the others did.A lot of what you're saying is STILL in SWG right now. Apparently you don't understand what it is the vets want. The vets wanted Pre CU to be FIXED!! not ripped apart and turned into the NGE, which is a joke by comparison.
Fuhyo
You are sadley misinformed.
They did have a fix for it. The had a balance system in process. It was called the CURB, they had been working on it for months before they scrapped it for the CU. They could have made the game much better and more stable, HOWEVER, they saw the money WoW was pulling in and decided that their game wasnt easy enough to get new players into. Hence the NGE came about. Dont believe me? Read some of the interviews with Smed and the Dev crew...they have all said it or made reference to it. Get your facts straight before you start trying to discredit other people.
Yes, someone is misinformed and it's not me.
The reason why CURB was dumped for the most part (the combat upgrade was Phase I of CURB) was that it would have been too costly and it wouldn't have really fixed anything without basically re-wrting the game from scratch. NGE was the less costly option and it allowed them to keep the core game without having to radically change it like CURB would have. LucasArts and SOE didn't want to spend that kind of man power or money and both companies also misjudged the player base by thinking they wanted more of a "Battlefront" type of game. Yes, one of the options was to make SWG just like Battlefront but was nixed as a bad idea.
How do I know? I was a CSR from the time of launch until I moved on to GM another game at SOE shortly after NGE launch. Those of you that used to grind in the Singing Mountain Caves on Bloodfin might remember some of my raids there to clear the place out.
Fuhyo
Sure you were. Know what... I'll take the information I recieved from people who I know actually worked for the company and not some forum troll who claimed to.Thalos Vipav
Star Wars Galaxies: R.I.P.
I like how most people like this say, "Get over yourself", and yet they still haven't moved from their SWG grief after two years.
I havent? thanks for letting me know.Because I post about the wrongs that SOE did with the game and that I miss it does not mean I havent moved on or still "grieve" for the game. But I do feel people need to remember what was done. And alittle bonding between people who had it done to them I dont see as a bad thing.
I dont make it a habit of attacking people for thier beliefs or views, unlike some.
Thalos Vipav
Star Wars Galaxies: R.I.P.