How do I know? I was a CSR from the time of launch until I moved on to GM another game at SOE shortly after NGE launch. Those of you that used to grind in the Singing Mountain Caves on Bloodfin might remember some of my raids there to clear the place out. Fuhyo
At last, we know who the CSR was who advised someone asking about Jedi visibility problems to check their video card drivers.
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
How do I know? I was a CSR from the time of launch until I moved on to GM another game at SOE shortly after NGE launch. Those of you that used to grind in the Singing Mountain Caves on Bloodfin might remember some of my raids there to clear the place out. Fuhyo
At last, we know who the CSR was who advised someone asking about Jedi visibility problems to check their video card drivers.
^^^^^
ROFL
Seriously why do people come into the Veteran's Refuge and tell people to 'get over it'. Seems we're not the only group with an axe to grind and someone's looking for easy targets.
Because I post about the wrongs that SOE did with the game and that I miss it does not mean I havent moved on or still "grieve" for the game. But I do feel people need to remember what was done. And alittle bonding between people who had it done to them I dont see as a bad thing. I dont make it a habit of attacking people for thier beliefs or views, unlike some.
I guess the question is, "Have you moved on?"
I am a SWG vet much like yourself, I started playing when the beta was released and stopped playing a few months ago. I know what the game was like then and what it's like now, but I don't feel compulsed to endlessly post the same things over and over again. Game companies know what SOE did, most of the MMO community knows what SOE did. I really hated SOE for a long time. I posted the same things that you've posted, then I realized that being angry and abusive towards SOE or any other people for the sake of the NGE isn't going to get me, or SWG anywhere. I suppose two years of this just doesn't seem worth it to me.
Because I post about the wrongs that SOE did with the game and that I miss it does not mean I havent moved on or still "grieve" for the game. But I do feel people need to remember what was done. And alittle bonding between people who had it done to them I dont see as a bad thing. I dont make it a habit of attacking people for thier beliefs or views, unlike some.
I guess the question is, "Have you moved on?"
I am a SWG vet much like yourself, I started playing when the beta was released and stopped playing a few months ago. I know what the game was like then and what it's like now, but I don't feel compulsed to endlessly post the same things over and over again. Game companies know what SOE did, most of the MMO community knows what SOE did. I really hated SOE for a long time. I posted the same things that you've posted, then I realized that being angry and abusive towards SOE or any other people for the sake of the NGE isn't going to get me, or SWG anywhere. I suppose two years of this just doesn't seem worth it to me.
Ok Doc, if I have or have not moved on cant be answered by anyone but me. And yes, to answer your question, I have. I was upset for a long time about what was done to SWG. I have since gotten over it to the point I even went back here and there to give the NGE a shot. Just too many reminders of what was to make the game a "new" experience. Which, in essence, is what it would need to be.
I dont see that, aside from pointing out that it upset me, I have been abusive towards anyone. Even the trolls telling the vets to "stop crying" and such. I post my views, I dont judge people by theirs. This forum is known for getting trolls to come in and flame the vets for discussing pre-cu. Telling us to get over it, stop crying, its been 2 years. News flash: there is not one of us who doesnt know how long its been. I have since stopped bashing SOE for anything. But this is the aniversary of the NGE. A special day of B*tching if you will.
And as far as not getting anything anywhere. I agree that it isnt gonna get SWG anywhere. Too little too late at this point. However, it does and did show every other game company just how long people can and will hold a grudge. I see that as a positive. It shows that people will still stand up for what they think and feel. Something that I have wondered even still exists anymore with the "I want it now" attitude we have going on currently in games.
There is nothing wrong with remembering the wrong that was done in SWG. There is nothing wrong with sharing that with others who have experienced it. And, above all, there is nothing wrong with sharing the good times and the friends made with others who also experienced the same thing. This is the Veterans forum. We talk about the "good 'ol days" and "how it use to be". Just let us. Apperently you havent moved on nearly as much as you would like to think you have as you are still in here giving veterans a hard time about being veterans. Moving on would be not caring what is going on, having no emotion what so ever. Meaning, not taking the time to read postings of people who do.
And yes, i realize that by my own definition I havent moved on either. Guess I was wrong.
Because I post about the wrongs that SOE did with the game and that I miss it does not mean I havent moved on or still "grieve" for the game. But I do feel people need to remember what was done. And alittle bonding between people who had it done to them I dont see as a bad thing. I dont make it a habit of attacking people for thier beliefs or views, unlike some.
I guess the question is, "Have you moved on?"
I am a SWG vet much like yourself, I started playing when the beta was released and stopped playing a few months ago. I know what the game was like then and what it's like now, but I don't feel compulsed to endlessly post the same things over and over again. Game companies know what SOE did, most of the MMO community knows what SOE did. I really hated SOE for a long time. I posted the same things that you've posted, then I realized that being angry and abusive towards SOE or any other people for the sake of the NGE isn't going to get me, or SWG anywhere. I suppose two years of this just doesn't seem worth it to me.
Ok Doc, if I have or have not moved on cant be answered by anyone but me. And yes, to answer your question, I have. I was upset for a long time about what was done to SWG. I have since gotten over it to the point I even went back here and there to give the NGE a shot. Just too many reminders of what was to make the game a "new" experience. Which, in essence, is what it would need to be.
I dont see that, aside from pointing out that it upset me, I have been abusive towards anyone. Even the trolls telling the vets to "stop crying" and such. I post my views, I dont judge people by theirs. This forum is known for getting trolls to come in and flame the vets for discussing pre-cu. Telling us to get over it, stop crying, its been 2 years. News flash: there is not one of us who doesnt know how long its been. I have since stopped bashing SOE for anything. But this is the aniversary of the NGE. A special day of B*tching if you will.
And as far as not getting anything anywhere. I agree that it isnt gonna get SWG anywhere. Too little too late at this point. However, it does and did show every other game company just how long people can and will hold a grudge. I see that as a positive. It shows that people will still stand up for what they think and feel. Something that I have wondered even still exists anymore with the "I want it now" attitude we have going on currently in games.
There is nothing wrong with remembering the wrong that was done in SWG. There is nothing wrong with sharing that with others who have experienced it. And, above all, there is nothing wrong with sharing the good times and the friends made with others who also experienced the same thing. This is the Veterans forum. We talk about the "good 'ol days" and "how it use to be". Just let us. Apperently you havent moved on nearly as much as you would like to think you have as you are still in here giving veterans a hard time about being veterans. Moving on would be not caring what is going on, having no emotion what so ever. Meaning, not taking the time to read postings of people who do.
If you didn't want people's opinions, then what was the point of making a thread? Anyone on these forums can make a thread about how much they enjoy SWG at it's current state, only to be met by flamers from the anti-SOE persuasion. As for the other vets, I'm not giving any veteren a hard time as you say. I'm talking about a whole other breed of people who have a very hard time grasping that it's only a game. That's all it is, a game. I know that I'm in enemy territory here, I know I can't get a word in edgewise because I've spent a lot of time trying to figure out why so many people are as hellbent as they are. I really wouldn't mind a "Special Day of Bitching", but to most of the people who have a deal with SOE, every day is a Special Day of Bitching. I know that this will go on forever, so I'm just going to shut up now and let you have your day.
Those still crying about the NGE need to get out of your parent's basement and get a life. It's dead, it's not coming back. No matter how blue your face becomes or how loud you cry, it's not going to bring it back. And I'm willing to bet that 100% of those that are crying for the Pre-CU to come back were the ones that would flood the SWG forums with whines on how broken the game was in the Pre-CU days. It's time to take off those rose tinted glasses because Pre-CU was a broken mess. Anyone remember losing items when crossing zone lines? Rubber banding when just trying to travel across a planet? Or the myriad of broken classes or broken quests? Yeah, lets bring back the buggy, broken POS that was Pre-CU. Fuhyo
Yeah, I remember all those things.
Yes, I will still "cry" about the game they stole from me.
Go troll somewhere else.
Edit: and one more thing...I am tired of people saying "cry more, get out of your parents basement and get a life." Who has less of a life? Someone who is upset about something that was stolen from them or someone who trolls forums to try to instigate flame wars? For the record... I have a life. And again for the record, I still miss the life they took from me in the game.
Those still crying about the NGE need to get out of your parent's basement and get a life. It's dead, it's not coming back. No matter how blue your face becomes or how loud you cry, it's not going to bring it back.
And I'm willing to bet that 100% of those that are crying for the Pre-CU to come back were the ones that would flood the SWG forums with whines on how broken the game was in the Pre-CU days. It's time to take off those rose tinted glasses because Pre-CU was a broken mess.
Anyone remember losing items when crossing zone lines? Rubber banding when just trying to travel across a planet? Or the myriad of broken classes or broken quests? Yeah, lets bring back the buggy, broken POS that was Pre-CU.
Fuhyo
A lot of what you're saying is STILL in SWG right now. Apparently you don't understand what it is the vets want. The vets wanted Pre CU to be FIXED!! not ripped apart and turned into the NGE, which is a joke by comparison.
I guess what you don't realize is that the reason why they did the NGE was because they couldn't fix the Pre-CU game. They would fix one thing and it would cause other things to break. They couldn't add new things because it would break the game, etc. Pre-CU SWG was an unfixable POS. Take off those rose tinted glasses, it's about time you and the others did.
Fuhyo
You are sadley misinformed.
They did have a fix for it. The had a balance system in process. It was called the CURB, they had been working on it for months before they scrapped it for the CU. They could have made the game much better and more stable, HOWEVER, they saw the money WoW was pulling in and decided that their game wasnt easy enough to get new players into. Hence the NGE came about. Dont believe me? Read some of the interviews with Smed and the Dev crew...they have all said it or made reference to it. Get your facts straight before you start trying to discredit other people.
It upsets me that some people, particularly those who have never played PRE-CU, are so affected by vets remembering PRE-CU and therefore feel the urge to come bash former SWG players with phrases: "get over it", "get a life" etc etc.
If anything, this "movement" has already alerted several MMO companies (including SOE) on the consequences of significantly revamping a game and treating their playerbase unethicaly. Who knows, maybe YOUR favourite MMO could have been next?
IF you don't understand this sentiment, well thats fine, but it does not give you the right to instruct other people on how they should feel about it or for how long, much less criticise them.
And remember, this IS a SWG REFUGE forum, so you should ask yourself what sort of threads you'd be finding here. Certainly not many praising the NGE.
PRE-CU was a GREAT game, which built a most solid community and was the favourite past time of many people. A singular game of its genre. Oh and yes, I have a life.
Well, at least other game companies have learned from these mistakes. If not for the NGE, there could have been countless other games that have gone the same way. I salute all of my fellow SWG vets that took one for the team. Hopefully in these past two years, those other vets have been able to cope with their "extreme grief" caused by SOE. Chin up, lads.
Those still crying about the NGE need to get out of your parent's basement and get a life. It's dead, it's not coming back. No matter how blue your face becomes or how loud you cry, it's not going to bring it back. And I'm willing to bet that 100% of those that are crying for the Pre-CU to come back were the ones that would flood the SWG forums with whines on how broken the game was in the Pre-CU days. It's time to take off those rose tinted glasses because Pre-CU was a broken mess. Anyone remember losing items when crossing zone lines? Rubber banding when just trying to travel across a planet? Or the myriad of broken classes or broken quests? Yeah, lets bring back the buggy, broken POS that was Pre-CU. Fuhyo
And what they borked the tusken king in the new patch and also all specials not firing. Sockets going poof.
Still rubber banding in the game btw. was as of when i quit it anyways.
Yoy have to be geting paid to defend a game like that..
wow people are still moaning about this? I used to moan but it's been like 2 years lol, get over it.
People grieve in many different ways. Life will give you opportunities to experience this, unfortunately. Emotional investment and emotional attachment, when lost or broken, bring grief. This tends to be intensified when the loss is a result of injustice. The virtual world and community that were SWG led many (not all) to invest deeply.
When I encounter those who have invested much and lost much, and when I encounter those who grieve more deeply or differently than me, I hope to regard them with compassion and respect.
Anniversary dates of losses are times when people often experience grief anew. It's helpful for them (us) to remember the good times, the friends made, and respect one another as we mourn what we have been separated from.
To the common MMO evil $OE who exiled hundered of thousands Star Wars gamer with CU / NGE crap patches. Learned to hold and fight with a Pistol, fought with swords , axes, hammer, stun batton, rifle, lightining cannon... with my bare hands and with a lightsaber too. Served dishes, clothed people, build buildings, selled spices, crafted RIS, T21, and a AV 21 speeder too. I feigned death , healed wounds and revived . Collected eggs , DNA 'd me a kimogila. i fished with pole, i hunted herbivore avian meat for doc, crafted buff lasting 3h 50m. hunted for rancors at the vallay, for kimos in lok and ancient krayts on Tat. Was tired after fights and after i watching dancer in cantinas i feeled better, Played instruments, sang songs , expressed myself with dancing.gifted a holocron, bought holocrons, waited for the old man. Visited aurelia, captured a general, survived an village invasion, crafted my first lightsaber. Hided miles away from any other , got killed for bounty, killed for bounty, meet the force ranks, the jedi council. Joined a guild , placed a house , helped city become metropolis, hunted in solo group, looted crystals.... one day ..you destroyed my world...you EXILED me... 15.11..... you $OE deleted my posts about not destroying my world..... you $OE banned me for me asking about my world you $OE decline to restore the world , who offered me that rich experiences i made...... you $OE ignorant fools ...who victimezed me ..... NOW audit and may you notice this THE THOUSANDS OF PRE CU VETS MAKE THE DIFFERENCE
preach it brother, preach it...
amen..
thanks to the OP and happy NGE-day to all veterans...
Those still crying about the NGE need to get out of your parent's basement and get a life. It's dead, it's not coming back. No matter how blue your face becomes or how loud you cry, it's not going to bring it back. And I'm willing to bet that 100% of those that are crying for the Pre-CU to come back were the ones that would flood the SWG forums with whines on how broken the game was in the Pre-CU days. It's time to take off those rose tinted glasses because Pre-CU was a broken mess. Anyone remember losing items when crossing zone lines? Rubber banding when just trying to travel across a planet? Or the myriad of broken classes or broken quests? Yeah, lets bring back the buggy, broken POS that was Pre-CU. Fuhyo
and ?
who says that we post all of these stuff to get pre-cu back?
we post all the negative about SOE to be heard and let everyone know what SOE did...
we post all of these stuff to let SOE know that we will never forget and that we will always keep on talking about the biggest failure in mmorpg history....
but thats something that people like you will never understand...
if the alliance didnt fight adolf hitler, then in what kind of world would we live today? did they say "okay, come one lets get over it and lets forget it" ?
sometimes you have to fight against something that just aint right..
First thank you everyone for taking all the time to remember these day and posting here. I am not responsible for it that it was a sad day for the most of us. But i am also now happy about that i have bro's around me who don't feel so much different then myself.
But why i should be suprised about !? we had a great community and accompany back then in the game and gone through rough times and i was almost of the time proud about to be part of it. Looking forward to meet you in on MMO or another anytime soon (PRE CU FTW !)
Now some words to the few critics.
To the "get a life" type of. No need to mention to me i think look at the date i joined andlook at post count , i am not that one hanging around on forums type.
To the "get over it " type of critics. Well you live in error if you think that most if not all of us vets don't moved. Myself moved to another MMO world enjoy many aspects of that game too. The point is NOTHING nearly excites me to the point SWG PRE CU did and so states other so what would you like me to do : force me to like your NGE despite the fact that on every move i would think damn PRE CU was better in this and that? So here i am requesting back the best game i ever played PRE CU !
some words in general speaking , in all honesty i think i know and understand motivation behind your slashy posts guys,
read what a single toon was capable to do in my post ..ehh ? could be a bit of envy is mixed on your side ..ehh ? ah this freedom...it was so refreshing ...so cool ..yea ! it was amazing to experience that....to be part of it , to meet so many cool guys and girls doing with that dedication and fun ...i can still close my eyes and breath this ambiance..can you do the same ? close your eyes ....
keep in mind you a toon, be fencer for a moment then run to your house , pickup mats for the fancy fastest paced knuckler your buddy asked for and your excited about ... to craft it for him and you know you will do a damn good job. Then a call "overt scum" in Theed alarms you, you jumping theed starport get involved in some PvP of type who know who will win, buff lines , vendor spam, some ents dancing or playing some weird instrument chat bubbles hide your screen. At the moment you get a tell "Please help me i am a Jedi running from BH gank group" seconds later you see him running trough the spaceport ..running for his life..you knowed next you would try is mixing "low blow" in your skillset and go for carbines ..with some "fence defense" hehe..but dropping your 12 point Weapon crafter for ..NEVER...lol
..i mean wasn't it freaky awsome full of life for a single toon?
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- $OE - eternal enemy of online gaming -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
Those still crying about the NGE need to get out of your parent's basement and get a life. It's dead, it's not coming back. No matter how blue your face becomes or how loud you cry, it's not going to bring it back. And I'm willing to bet that 100% of those that are crying for the Pre-CU to come back were the ones that would flood the SWG forums with whines on how broken the game was in the Pre-CU days. It's time to take off those rose tinted glasses because Pre-CU was a broken mess. Anyone remember losing items when crossing zone lines? Rubber banding when just trying to travel across a planet? Or the myriad of broken classes or broken quests? Yeah, lets bring back the buggy, broken POS that was Pre-CU. Fuhyo
Hmmm? what? I for one never ever posted on station forums EVER i was having to much fun playing a bugged game, and yes i do remember broken things like soloing my first kimo and having it die on a zone line and not being able to loot the corpse. Or living on Talus and nothing would spawn for months at a time and a few other choice bugs that escape my memory atm.
But you know what i had fun, sitting in my camp watching a sunset after a good hunt, reading my skill trees, grinding xp on a new higher better mob,going to the med center to get heals and meet new people Fun helping a newb with advice and goodies, and Fun just being myself exploring an amazing universe all set in a buggy broken POS game. And yet i found it an amazing experience.
Those still crying about the NGE need to get out of your parent's basement and get a life. It's dead, it's not coming back. No matter how blue your face becomes or how loud you cry, it's not going to bring it back.
And I'm willing to bet that 100% of those that are crying for the Pre-CU to come back were the ones that would flood the SWG forums with whines on how broken the game was in the Pre-CU days. It's time to take off those rose tinted glasses because Pre-CU was a broken mess.
Anyone remember losing items when crossing zone lines? Rubber banding when just trying to travel across a planet? Or the myriad of broken classes or broken quests? Yeah, lets bring back the buggy, broken POS that was Pre-CU.
Fuhyo
A lot of what you're saying is STILL in SWG right now. Apparently you don't understand what it is the vets want. The vets wanted Pre CU to be FIXED!! not ripped apart and turned into the NGE, which is a joke by comparison.
I guess what you don't realize is that the reason why they did the NGE was because they couldn't fix the Pre-CU game. They would fix one thing and it would cause other things to break. They couldn't add new things because it would break the game, etc. Pre-CU SWG was an unfixable POS. Take off those rose tinted glasses, it's about time you and the others did.
Fuhyo
And from what i can see on the station forums it is still a unfixable POS. So it appears they wasted there time with the NGE. And your the one with rose tinted glasses if you think the NGE was to "fix" the game.
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At last, we know who the CSR was who advised someone asking about Jedi visibility problems to check their video card drivers.
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
Once a denizen of Ahazi
^^^^^At last, we know who the CSR was who advised someone asking about Jedi visibility problems to check their video card drivers.
ROFL
Seriously why do people come into the Veteran's Refuge and tell people to 'get over it'. Seems we're not the only group with an axe to grind and someone's looking for easy targets.
I guess the question is, "Have you moved on?"
I am a SWG vet much like yourself, I started playing when the beta was released and stopped playing a few months ago. I know what the game was like then and what it's like now, but I don't feel compulsed to endlessly post the same things over and over again. Game companies know what SOE did, most of the MMO community knows what SOE did. I really hated SOE for a long time. I posted the same things that you've posted, then I realized that being angry and abusive towards SOE or any other people for the sake of the NGE isn't going to get me, or SWG anywhere. I suppose two years of this just doesn't seem worth it to me.
I guess the question is, "Have you moved on?"
I am a SWG vet much like yourself, I started playing when the beta was released and stopped playing a few months ago. I know what the game was like then and what it's like now, but I don't feel compulsed to endlessly post the same things over and over again. Game companies know what SOE did, most of the MMO community knows what SOE did. I really hated SOE for a long time. I posted the same things that you've posted, then I realized that being angry and abusive towards SOE or any other people for the sake of the NGE isn't going to get me, or SWG anywhere. I suppose two years of this just doesn't seem worth it to me.
Ok Doc, if I have or have not moved on cant be answered by anyone but me. And yes, to answer your question, I have. I was upset for a long time about what was done to SWG. I have since gotten over it to the point I even went back here and there to give the NGE a shot. Just too many reminders of what was to make the game a "new" experience. Which, in essence, is what it would need to be.
I dont see that, aside from pointing out that it upset me, I have been abusive towards anyone. Even the trolls telling the vets to "stop crying" and such. I post my views, I dont judge people by theirs. This forum is known for getting trolls to come in and flame the vets for discussing pre-cu. Telling us to get over it, stop crying, its been 2 years. News flash: there is not one of us who doesnt know how long its been. I have since stopped bashing SOE for anything. But this is the aniversary of the NGE. A special day of B*tching if you will.
And as far as not getting anything anywhere. I agree that it isnt gonna get SWG anywhere. Too little too late at this point. However, it does and did show every other game company just how long people can and will hold a grudge. I see that as a positive. It shows that people will still stand up for what they think and feel. Something that I have wondered even still exists anymore with the "I want it now" attitude we have going on currently in games.
There is nothing wrong with remembering the wrong that was done in SWG. There is nothing wrong with sharing that with others who have experienced it. And, above all, there is nothing wrong with sharing the good times and the friends made with others who also experienced the same thing. This is the Veterans forum. We talk about the "good 'ol days" and "how it use to be". Just let us. Apperently you havent moved on nearly as much as you would like to think you have as you are still in here giving veterans a hard time about being veterans. Moving on would be not caring what is going on, having no emotion what so ever. Meaning, not taking the time to read postings of people who do.
And yes, i realize that by my own definition I havent moved on either. Guess I was wrong.
Thalos Vipav
Star Wars Galaxies: R.I.P.
I guess the question is, "Have you moved on?"
I am a SWG vet much like yourself, I started playing when the beta was released and stopped playing a few months ago. I know what the game was like then and what it's like now, but I don't feel compulsed to endlessly post the same things over and over again. Game companies know what SOE did, most of the MMO community knows what SOE did. I really hated SOE for a long time. I posted the same things that you've posted, then I realized that being angry and abusive towards SOE or any other people for the sake of the NGE isn't going to get me, or SWG anywhere. I suppose two years of this just doesn't seem worth it to me.
Ok Doc, if I have or have not moved on cant be answered by anyone but me. And yes, to answer your question, I have. I was upset for a long time about what was done to SWG. I have since gotten over it to the point I even went back here and there to give the NGE a shot. Just too many reminders of what was to make the game a "new" experience. Which, in essence, is what it would need to be.I dont see that, aside from pointing out that it upset me, I have been abusive towards anyone. Even the trolls telling the vets to "stop crying" and such. I post my views, I dont judge people by theirs. This forum is known for getting trolls to come in and flame the vets for discussing pre-cu. Telling us to get over it, stop crying, its been 2 years. News flash: there is not one of us who doesnt know how long its been. I have since stopped bashing SOE for anything. But this is the aniversary of the NGE. A special day of B*tching if you will.
And as far as not getting anything anywhere. I agree that it isnt gonna get SWG anywhere. Too little too late at this point. However, it does and did show every other game company just how long people can and will hold a grudge. I see that as a positive. It shows that people will still stand up for what they think and feel. Something that I have wondered even still exists anymore with the "I want it now" attitude we have going on currently in games.
There is nothing wrong with remembering the wrong that was done in SWG. There is nothing wrong with sharing that with others who have experienced it. And, above all, there is nothing wrong with sharing the good times and the friends made with others who also experienced the same thing. This is the Veterans forum. We talk about the "good 'ol days" and "how it use to be". Just let us. Apperently you havent moved on nearly as much as you would like to think you have as you are still in here giving veterans a hard time about being veterans. Moving on would be not caring what is going on, having no emotion what so ever. Meaning, not taking the time to read postings of people who do.
If you didn't want people's opinions, then what was the point of making a thread? Anyone on these forums can make a thread about how much they enjoy SWG at it's current state, only to be met by flamers from the anti-SOE persuasion. As for the other vets, I'm not giving any veteren a hard time as you say. I'm talking about a whole other breed of people who have a very hard time grasping that it's only a game. That's all it is, a game. I know that I'm in enemy territory here, I know I can't get a word in edgewise because I've spent a lot of time trying to figure out why so many people are as hellbent as they are. I really wouldn't mind a "Special Day of Bitching", but to most of the people who have a deal with SOE, every day is a Special Day of Bitching. I know that this will go on forever, so I'm just going to shut up now and let you have your day.
pre-cu ftw!!
Yeah, I remember all those things.
Yes, I will still "cry" about the game they stole from me.
Go troll somewhere else.
Edit: and one more thing...I am tired of people saying "cry more, get out of your parents basement and get a life." Who has less of a life? Someone who is upset about something that was stolen from them or someone who trolls forums to try to instigate flame wars? For the record... I have a life. And again for the record, I still miss the life they took from me in the game.
/clap
I guess what you don't realize is that the reason why they did the NGE was because they couldn't fix the Pre-CU game. They would fix one thing and it would cause other things to break. They couldn't add new things because it would break the game, etc. Pre-CU SWG was an unfixable POS. Take off those rose tinted glasses, it's about time you and the others did.A lot of what you're saying is STILL in SWG right now. Apparently you don't understand what it is the vets want. The vets wanted Pre CU to be FIXED!! not ripped apart and turned into the NGE, which is a joke by comparison.
Fuhyo
You are sadley misinformed.
They did have a fix for it. The had a balance system in process. It was called the CURB, they had been working on it for months before they scrapped it for the CU. They could have made the game much better and more stable, HOWEVER, they saw the money WoW was pulling in and decided that their game wasnt easy enough to get new players into. Hence the NGE came about. Dont believe me? Read some of the interviews with Smed and the Dev crew...they have all said it or made reference to it. Get your facts straight before you start trying to discredit other people.
/closing fuhyo's mouth
High-five to all the Vets/Exiles and Cabalists out there
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SOE we fight lest beasts we become...
PRE-CU FTW !!!!!!!!
It upsets me that some people, particularly those who have never played PRE-CU, are so affected by vets remembering PRE-CU and therefore feel the urge to come bash former SWG players with phrases: "get over it", "get a life" etc etc.
If anything, this "movement" has already alerted several MMO companies (including SOE) on the consequences of significantly revamping a game and treating their playerbase unethicaly. Who knows, maybe YOUR favourite MMO could have been next?
IF you don't understand this sentiment, well thats fine, but it does not give you the right to instruct other people on how they should feel about it or for how long, much less criticise them.
And remember, this IS a SWG REFUGE forum, so you should ask yourself what sort of threads you'd be finding here. Certainly not many praising the NGE.
PRE-CU was a GREAT game, which built a most solid community and was the favourite past time of many people. A singular game of its genre. Oh and yes, I have a life.
PRE-CU FTW!
People of Euro-Chimaera... Wherever you are now... I hope you're well. You made the game oh so much more enjoyable - even Tomeg did.. fond memories..
And to all the citizens of Aexon Beach.. I miss you truly. Happiest days of my MMO life were with you and my fondest memories lie with you.
So many people... I miss you all...
wow people are still moaning about this? I used to moan but it's been like 2 years lol, get over it.
Before anyone says anything...i am a COSED beta vet and stopped playing 3 months ago..so i got more time on the game than most o you! :P
yeah i miss it too...but i moved on , otherwise its like stalking your ex-girlfriend 2 years later.....it just isn't healthy
oh and CU>PreCU
chew on that! :P
Nicely said, thanks.
Wow, I can't believe this bothers you so much.
And what they borked the tusken king in the new patch and also all specials not firing. Sockets going poof.
Still rubber banding in the game btw. was as of when i quit it anyways.
Yoy have to be geting paid to defend a game like that..
One class haveing duel abilitys should i go on?
Truth hurt to much nothing to say.
Keep playing in your little dream world
People grieve in many different ways. Life will give you opportunities to experience this, unfortunately. Emotional investment and emotional attachment, when lost or broken, bring grief. This tends to be intensified when the loss is a result of injustice. The virtual world and community that were SWG led many (not all) to invest deeply.
When I encounter those who have invested much and lost much, and when I encounter those who grieve more deeply or differently than me, I hope to regard them with compassion and respect.
Anniversary dates of losses are times when people often experience grief anew. It's helpful for them (us) to remember the good times, the friends made, and respect one another as we mourn what we have been separated from.
preach it brother, preach it...
amen..
thanks to the OP and happy NGE-day to all veterans...
"You must be either retarded or a fanboi..."
and ?
who says that we post all of these stuff to get pre-cu back?
we post all the negative about SOE to be heard and let everyone know what SOE did...
we post all of these stuff to let SOE know that we will never forget and that we will always keep on talking about the biggest failure in mmorpg history....
but thats something that people like you will never understand...
if the alliance didnt fight adolf hitler, then in what kind of world would we live today? did they say "okay, come one lets get over it and lets forget it" ?
sometimes you have to fight against something that just aint right..
"You must be either retarded or a fanboi..."
First thank you everyone for taking all the time to remember these day and posting here. I am not responsible for it that it was a sad day for the most of us. But i am also now happy about that i have bro's around me who don't feel so much different then myself.
But why i should be suprised about !? we had a great community and accompany back then in the game and gone through rough times and i was almost of the time proud about to be part of it. Looking forward to meet you in on MMO or another anytime soon (PRE CU FTW !
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Now some words to the few critics.
To the "get a life" type of. No need to mention to me i think look at the date i joined andlook at post count , i am not that one hanging around on forums type.
To the "get over it " type of critics. Well you live in error if you think that most if not all of us vets don't moved. Myself moved to another MMO world enjoy many aspects of that game too. The point is NOTHING nearly excites me to the point SWG PRE CU did and so states other so what would you like me to do : force me to like your NGE despite the fact that on every move i would think damn PRE CU was better in this and that? So here i am requesting back the best game i ever played PRE CU !
some words in general speaking , in all honesty i think i know and understand motivation behind your slashy posts guys,
read what a single toon was capable to do in my post ..ehh ? could be a bit of envy is mixed on your side ..ehh ? ah this freedom...it was so refreshing ...so cool ..yea ! it was amazing to experience that....to be part of it , to meet so many cool guys and girls doing with that dedication and fun ...i can still close my eyes and breath this ambiance..can you do the same ? close your eyes ....
keep in mind you a toon, be fencer for a moment then run to your house , pickup mats for the fancy fastest paced knuckler your buddy asked for and your excited about ... to craft it for him and you know you will do a damn good job. Then a call "overt scum" in Theed alarms you, you jumping theed starport get involved in some PvP of type who know who will win, buff lines , vendor spam, some ents dancing or playing some weird instrument chat bubbles hide your screen. At the moment you get a tell "Please help me i am a Jedi running from BH gank group" seconds later you see him running trough the spaceport ..running for his life..you knowed next you would try is mixing "low blow" in your skillset
and go for carbines ..with some "fence defense" hehe..but dropping your 12 point Weapon crafter for ..NEVER...lol
..i mean wasn't it freaky awsome full of life for a single toon?
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$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
Those who ignore the past is doomed to repeat it.
PRE-CU FTW!
salute.....
The general discussion board usually has a thread where 9 out of 10 players mention how pre-nge needs brought back, or classic servers added.
$OE FTL though!
Hmmm? what? I for one never ever posted on station forums EVER i was having to much fun playing a bugged game, and yes i do remember broken things like soloing my first kimo and having it die on a zone line and not being able to loot the corpse. Or living on Talus and nothing would spawn for months at a time and a few other choice bugs that escape my memory atm.
But you know what i had fun, sitting in my camp watching a sunset after a good hunt, reading my skill trees, grinding xp on a new higher better mob,going to the med center to get heals and meet new people Fun helping a newb with advice and goodies, and Fun just being myself exploring an amazing universe all set in a buggy broken POS game. And yet i found it an amazing experience.
I guess what you don't realize is that the reason why they did the NGE was because they couldn't fix the Pre-CU game. They would fix one thing and it would cause other things to break. They couldn't add new things because it would break the game, etc. Pre-CU SWG was an unfixable POS. Take off those rose tinted glasses, it's about time you and the others did.A lot of what you're saying is STILL in SWG right now. Apparently you don't understand what it is the vets want. The vets wanted Pre CU to be FIXED!! not ripped apart and turned into the NGE, which is a joke by comparison.
Fuhyo
And from what i can see on the station forums it is still a unfixable POS. So it appears they wasted there time with the NGE. And your the one with rose tinted glasses if you think the NGE was to "fix" the game.
All said with due moderation and respect