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Tabula Rasa will seriously challenge WOW
Lobotomist
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Ok. First of note that I never been in Tabula Rasa beta , nor did I ever followed this game. However i became interested in it since the release only brought positive comments from players.
So I decided play the Trial
Well here goes rant and prediction
In one word , Tabula Rasa managed to do something many MMOs tried at and failed. And not only that.
Something that many game companies think is the only way to save the boring grindastic world of MMO combat.
Tabula Rasa is ACTION-SHOOTER-RPG ... in a way it plays a lot like Hellgate London praised shooter class - just much much better
TR brings dynamic MOB/enviroment - Meaning that unlike in EQ/WOW based MMOs , MOB do not move in their small aggro circle. In TR enemy forces move everywhere and dynamicaly try to capture their own objectives. This means that not only there is almost no safe spot to AFK . And also that you have dynamic BATTLEFIELD mission - where you have to protect large areas of map. On this places you can grind-facton points (if you have nothing smarter to do) but not actually feel like you are grinding.
The above things make Tabula Rasa , completely different beast. Unlike any MMO until now it is action packed and fun to play for everyone, not only compulsive grind fanatics.
In one good analysis of WOW success it was said "Secret of WOW succes was the fact it was MMO made to appeal to non MMO players"
If this is a fact , than Tabula Rasa will succes tenfold. And allready the servers are bursting with activity , and i expect it to rise quickly.
All this said
TR is still not a READY game. When WOW came out it was feature rich and polished. TR is missing main features, and if NC soft is smart and quickly fixes this isues - TR will easily challenge not only WOW but WAR and AOC aswell
NC soft has to as implement following things ASAP
1.Auction house
2.PVP
3.Good crafting
4.Faction benefits
With thiese things implemented TR will feel like full package. And we might have next 10ton gorilla on our hands 
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There is absolutely no way on earth that TR is a threat to rival WoW. None. Period. End of story.
A good game? Perhaps. In its own right. But it will simply not garner the numbers WoW has or will have over time.
That was a good joke, really hilarious... Oh wait, you were serious? Ok, that was as far from the truth and reality as a really faraway planet in a really faraway star system in a really far away galaxy... If you are really really far far away... and leaving.
"This is not a game to be tossed aside lightly.
It should be thrown with great force"
Hehe Lets wait and see
That op tends to forget that not only do you have to have a solid game to get subs, but you have to already have a huge and solid community based off previous games to compete. And NC Soft does not have this. If this game does decent, then expect there next game to be a better hit. But it needs a few HITS before it becomes a ten ton gorilla. The only game that really stands a chance against WoW's community is another blizzard MMO. But if they go for WoW2 then they will end up like EQ and EQ2 and then maybe someone will have a chance. So for the WoW haters out there, you should be praying they release another WoW.
If I had a nickel........
WoW is the Microsoft of mmorpgs.
TR is not even close to being the linux.
TR is/will be a great game but no way TR reaches the ammount of subs WoW has.
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I like the game, having fun playing it, but don't think it will even be a blip on the radar to WOW. It will do well and sustain itself I think, but let's not get crazy.
MMOs Played: EQ 1&2, DAoC, SWG, Planetside, WoW, GW, CoX, DDO, EVE, Vanguard, TR
Playing: WAR
Awaiting 40k Online and wishing for Battletech Online
420 posts...how fitting. GOTTA be stoned to even consider this to be remotely true.
Lol I haven't laughed so much in a long time, nice joke op.
I was involved in TR Beta and I can say that although TR's graphics are very nice, instances action packed, by its very nature TR is aimed at a different audience.
Like you said TR is a completely different beast. It is mainly a ranged combat war game.
The following are just my opinion on the game:
1) Although there is magic / logos, it is secondary to ranged combat and therefore feels like an afterthought.
2) There's melee attacks but only at later levels and from what I can see, very limited.
3) The economy is based around items for war (for obvious reasons). As such the social aspects or previous MMO's (WoW, EQ2, Vanguard etc, etc) are completely missing.
4) Just like other NCsoft games, the main world isn't that big and therefore feels like a hub for the instances around it.
5) The world makes you run round like a headless chicken with no sense of direction.
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure TR will pull enough subscribers to keep the game going because of its "plusses" (I predict maximum of about 120,000 subs) but it won't be a contender for WoW. Nowhere near.
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pretty funny post. theres nothing to do but kill bane nothing else... everything revolves around that. that might be fun now but give it 3 months.
agree.
Uh, are you serious? I guess you must be...
Then you're also out of your mind. Tabula Rasa is a good game, but the core depth of the gameplay mechanics are just not there. Run and shoot. Run and shoot. Crouch and shoot. Believe me, you'll get sick of it in a few more weeks.
No PvP, no depth, no way.
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No it won't, for the very reasons you stated.
If it's nothing like a regular MMORPG then it won't attract the standard MMORPG crowd. It might get some FPS players involved, but unless it's twitch gaming rather than stats-based dice rolls the majority of the FPS crowd won't like it that much either.
Secondly, it has a Teen rating. So all of those kids who play WoW won't be allowed to play it. This also implies moderate language which means any oldies who play WoW won't want to play it either.
It's not cute or based on a particularly recognisable franchise, so Warcraft fans (and let's be honest, the majority of original WoW subscribers were WC3 players first) or your typical 'gamer-girl' won't touch it.
The only thing that's really going to damage WoW's numbers is people eventually realising it's just another MMORPG, or getting sick of grinding for XP and items in order to feel worthwhile to a group or guild.
"and let's be honest, the majority of original WoW subscribers were WC3 players first"
I just gotta say that this is NOT true. No one in any of the guilds I have ever been in have even played WC3, I would be shocked if the "majority" of original WoW subscribers even knew what WC3 was.
That is exactly my point!
As WOW did before. They Attracted NON-MMO crowd to MMO.
TR might look shallow to MMO players like you and me. But to somebody who never played MMO before , and finds MMO click and wait for result system boring - TR seems like awesome game.
This might just work perfect for them , and if they add functional and fun PVP. We will all be stunned by growth of TR.
And p.s. I never said it will topple WOW . But it might be very succesfull never the less
No MMO ever again will have succes of WOW , period
I'm going to agree with everything said above me. TR is a nice, solid game -- a good distraction until the more anticipated AAA games hit the market in '08.
AoC and WAR are the games with the potential, and the fanbase, to knock WoW down a peg or two. But ultimately it's probably going to be another Blizzard game that replaces WoW as as the top dog.
Or another IP with a fanatical fanbase.
Like Harry Potter or Pokemon...
Goddamned formatting.
That is exactly my point!
As WOW did before. They Attracted NON-MMO crowd to MMO.
TR might look shallow to MMO players like you and me. But to somebody who never played MMO before , and finds MMO click and wait for result system boring - TR seems like awesome game.
This might just work perfect for them , and if they add functional and fun PVP. We will all be stunned by growth of TR.
And p.s. I never said it will topple WOW . But it might be very succesfull never the less
No MMO ever again will have succes of WOW , period
Your original post is entitled "Tabula Rasa will seriously challenge WoW". However you agree that it won't topple WoW and no MMO will ever again have the same success.
So, what exactly do you mean by the title?
Tbh, I wouldn't be stunned if TR had a subscription base that sustained it. After all, that is the whole justification of creating a business. Sustaining it and making money from it.
Are you implying that it will gain 9 million subscribers?
Not a chance.
Extent of content?
No. Not in my opinion, its a multiplayer war game. Nothing more. It looks nice but gets old pretty fast. Very repetitive.
Will TR bring in new people into the MMO Market?
Yes, it has that potential, but the same could be said of ANY mmo.
The MMO market is very fickle, the same mindset when creating an MMO can work on one game, but not another. Marketting, presentation and player choices are everything.
Recently a well known MMO dev said that one of the main keys to entice and keep people in an MMO is to give them as much choice in the game as possible. The more choices, the more the player considers the game to be "open" and will feel that they are not being lead down one specific path without the ability to diverte from that one path.
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TR was boring. I tried the beta. Was turned off immediately when I realized how boring the combat was. No shooter game should make me shoot a monster ten times just to kill it, especially during the introduction tutorial. That told me right then and there that this wasn't a true shooter game. Just more boring RPGish combat with guns.
And to the OP, your SIG makes no freaking sense.
NOBODY forced any of those companies to sell to EA. All of those developers wanted a bigger piece of the pie and thought that EA would give it to them. They got greedy and sold out. Please, don't blame EA. Some of their games are actually quite good. Too bad you miss out on them because of your misdirected protest.
Currently playing: No MMOs. They all suck.
Exactly.
TR looks nice, has instances. But its nothing more that a nice looking repetitive third person shoot-em up war game with a crafting system "bolted on". There's no living, breathing "world" to interact with.
There's no social interaction with the other inhabitants of the world other than to get the next list of mobs to shoot.
Yes, "go out and find my little kittie stuck in a tree" is a little lame as an example, but its these little bits of lore interaction that makes you feel like your IN a world rather than just watching it.
Like Eve, it will cater for a particular "niche" of MMO that it set out to cater for. But it won't encroach on the MMO niches that other previous games did so well. This is precisely why TR will never do fantastically well, it will just do well enough to possibly drag in enough subscribers to sustain it for a period.
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Sounds to me you should stay FAR AWAY from MMO's since they don't seem to be your cup of tea, ^_^
TR has exciting fast paced intense combat action. Many people would actually agree, well those who enjoy MMO's and FPS games. Combining the two was probably the greatest Idea I've ever seen implemented correctly..
But to say it will rival WoW made me do one of these,
followed by this gesture, 
until I felt a bad taste in my mouth which caused me to do this, 
I seriously doubt right now it even competes with WoW. Lets see how the end game is first before making any of those statements.. Right now the game is alot of fun, but we'll see just how much longer this lasts..
I'm only level 15 but I can honestly say its to easy. I soloed all 3 instances at level 11. That is insane. Even WoW's instances require a full group, unless your a Rogue/Druid and can stealth to some of the named mobs, ^_^ I hope the instances in TR gets harder and requires a group to complete,, if not people will breeze through the game solo and it will be like playing an FPS game with some MMO elements.. If thats the case, I'd probably be bored after a month and move on to something else
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Until the time that Huxley arrives (thats IF it arrives).....then TR may feel "the pinch".
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Um, I’ve only read the title of this thread and I’m going to say……No it won’t. I played TR all through beta. Don’t get me wrong, this is a fun game but if you take a step back it really isn’t a mmo. If this was a straight shooter with no monthly fee I would buy it right away. The game gets repetitive after awhile, the kind of game to play hard then put it down for a while. WoW has nothing to worry about. I would recommend this game, its has its ups.
OP, you should have saved this thread for April 1.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
This being said , TR is not a bad game and lot of people are having fun playing it... but in no way it will become a mainstream.. it's clearly a niche game.
(lvled a biotech till 34 and a commando 32)
Sounds to me you should stay FAR AWAY from MMO's since they don't seem to be your cup of tea, ^_^
TR has exciting fast paced intense combat action. Many people would actually agree, well those who enjoy MMO's and FPS games. Combining the two was probably the greatest Idea I've ever seen implemented correctly..
But to say it will rival WoW made me do one of these,
followed by this gesture, 
until I felt a bad taste in my mouth which caused me to do this, 
I seriously doubt right now it even competes with WoW. Lets see how the end game is first before making any of those statements.. Right now the game is alot of fun, but we'll see just how much longer this lasts..
I'm only level 15 but I can honestly say its to easy. I soloed all 3 instances at level 11. That is insane. Even WoW's instances require a full group, unless your a Rogue/Druid and can stealth to some of the named mobs, ^_^ I hope the instances in TR gets harder and requires a group to complete,, if not people will breeze through the game solo and it will be like playing an FPS game with some MMO elements.. If thats the case, I'd probably be bored after a month and move on to something else
I have played MMOs, they being my favorite genre of games, since the very late 90s. I think MMOs are my cup of tea. What is not my cup of tea is NON-FPS combat in a sci-fi game. All I want is true twitch combat when I'm using guns. Is that too much to ask for?
While what you say about TR having fast and exciting combat (say compared to your typical fantasy MMO) it utterly fails when you compare it to the kind of combat experienced in FPS. This is the kind of marriage I want: MMO + FPS. Take the boring, turn-based RPG combat out!!! It simply isn't fast enough (to me) for these kinds of games and utterly turned me off to TR!!
Currently playing: No MMOs. They all suck.