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LoboMau
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Sincerely I dont understand why so much hate! The bashing, trolling and insults to this game in this Forum is much highrer than in other games. The game is not a 10 of course, but isn´t bad either! It´s rather a good game, well balanced, few bugs and some interesting innovations and with great potential for the future. I´m enjoying very much playing this game. I started in the last weeks of Beta and couldn´t stop! I think one of the reasons of so much hate were the higher expectations for this game and when the early Beta started and the amount of bugs and few contents made lots of people flee from the game. But it was normal! It was an early Beta!! The bashing was very loud and continued even when the game was released and the major problems were solved. Great reviews, people telling that they didn´t liked in the Beta phase but now were having a blast playing it, fresh MMO´s players saying that they love this game, MMO veterans saying that this game is very good, nothing can´t stop this guys from bashing the game and stop saying "this game sucks"! Some didn´t even played the game since early Beta (June/July), others intend to draw TR players for other games (Neocron,HGL,SWG,etc...) and the majority are simpletons...Trolls! They are having fewer and fewer arguments but they don´t shut up! First were the bugs(it was a BETA), then it was the "shalow content"(again...it was a BETA), then was the poor graphics( how about having a better PC?), then the gameplay (it is diferent, like a FPS/RPG ,maybe is too diferent for people that are always demanding innovation but can´t see innovation even if it bites you in the...) one topic even said that the game was too fast!! I dont understand this behaviour! When I don´t like one game I just ignore him, even when I have high hopes and in the end the game isn´t what I hoped for (like HGL). But this people (or children) maybe don´t have a life and have plenty time to spare in futility. So, starting now, I will ignore any topic that attacks this game, I´m just sick of it! I will only post on topics that talk about something positive about this game or questions about TR.
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thats a pretty good size block o text there.
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Many MMO players have differing if not opposing opinions.
Who cares if they don't like the game? The point is whether YOU enjoy the game.
Personally I don't care for TR. I have my reasons and have voiced them. But that shouldn't stop YOU or anyone else for that matter from trying a game out to form your own opinion.
People should just be mindful of others opinions, but not majorly use them to form their own. To do so is naivety.
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actually the whole point IS to stop other people from paying $ for the game.
the few people who do enjoy the game seem to have 2 inch thick ruby glasses on to not be seeing the fact that its not a very good game (for the myraid of of reasons posted all over this forum). the fact that those same people keep hyping the game itself worries me because LOTS of people feel jipped (if not a more profane word).
i think alot of the problem is not many people out there are willing to say "i play shitty games" and since this is the game they are playing there must be no way in hell it can be described as above. maybe if people stopped trying to hype it (or really lets be honest blow smoke up rectums is the real way it is) we would stop having to stomp it every 5 min.
enough lies have already covered this game, you are only perpetuating it. give it a year, maybe at that point youll atleast be able to say "alot has been improved", right now most of the people who have played it are not going to let hype build their sub-base.
Well for me this is quite simple this game suck and this is not becuase of the bugs but just because i dont like the gameplay, the player customization and the style etc...
But the real point here is why do you mind about other opinion or bulling? If you like the game just play it and that it. No?
Don't worry about others.
I like the Tabula Rasa, it's first mmorpg for long time that keeps me interested. I think many did make they opinions based on beta and TR has become better from that.
Sure, there is alot what I don't like in TR, but also a lot what I like. So, lets just keep playing as long we enjoy it. Let others do what they do best, I hope that's not whining.
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Well whether a game is good or shitty is entirely subjective and based on what you expect in a game.
Personally I like the game and am having fun playing it.
For some people like the quoted poster the game obviously doesnt meet their expectations of what is a good game and so they feel the need to go on a crusade to save other people from wasting their money.
Their is a big difference between expressing your opinion on what is wrong with a game, and shoving your opinion down peoples throats.
If I dont like a game - I make a post on what I think is wrong, uninstall the game and move on. I tell my friends not to waste their money. Everyone else is free to make their own minds up.
There is enough stuff to worry about in life without getting bent out of shape over a game you dont like that other people might enjoy.
And I'm sure all the flamers are all posting purely out of the kindness of their hearts. It would be unbearable to think someone else spent $50 that could've easily gone to beer or a new dvd.
Also I don't see people trying to hype it so much as I see obnoxious people trolling. It is also interesting that the vast majority of negative posts are from people who never actually played the retail game. It's difficult to have objective discussions when every other post here is from the same trolls regurgitating the same irrelevant garbage.
Was the OP just copied and pasted or something??.. Look at the apostrophes.
Just ignore the people who bash the game and go about your business. ^_^
Personally, I think TR is alot of fun. Although, i'm starting to see why the haters hate this game. It's to easy and right now it plays more like a single player FPS game than an MMORPG. This is why I recently purchases ROK EQ2 expansion today because I need a challenge included in my gaming diet and TR is just a mindless blast em up action game.. Theres times I need to think and enjoy using some strategy and tactics to achieve success.
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Let's be honest:
I got in on the head start. The gameplay can be fun and it can be a real pain in the neck too. I've yet to complete a Target of Opportunity mission set without GM intervention because the Mission Log refuses to see things I've done. Some missions just plain won't work. (Operation: Termination for instance and isn't the only one.) The 1st patch is out and well, I didn't really see any difference on the positive side. I DID see they managed to turn the footlocker into a mini side game of juggle my character logins to find the precise combination that will let me SEE my stuff let alone get it OUT of the locker. Sometimes I can see it, but not transfer stuff. Other times I can't see my stuff but can transfer things INTO the footlocker (I hope). Then there are the times I can get into my locker, get what I want without a problem....but if I forget something and have to go back in, the process starts all over again. Not only that, but trying to find the proper item for a mod I have is a mini game of hunt the pink block. 50% of the mod items are a pink block icon. They don't even stack themselves. I have to do it. Frustrating.
I love the classes. I've been playing a Ranger so far. Pump 5 stealth armor lets me get into a ton of places without having to stand and blast the mobs. However, I have to be completely honest too. Carpet Bomb needs a LOT of work. If there is the slightest terrain variation between myself and the target, it will execute (costing me power and money) but won't fire. A 30ft tall stalker saved by a mound, tree stump or rock is just silly. Frustrating.
I like the style. I like the game...but the problems add up to one thing only: FRUSTRATION.
While the game play can be fast, fun and frantic.....frustration simply trumps it all.
15 bucks a month + 50 bucks for the game at this stage? I can't reccomend it. Will I go back some day? Hard to say. I really wanted this game to work, but constant /petitions and all the other frustrations point out that this is for entertainment ONLY. So far, the entertainment is only in the run and gun aspect and nothing more.
I've also seen a lot of discussion concerning "kill x mobs" missions, folks this game is nothing BUT kill x mobs missions. 200 of these, 20 of those, 6 bosses, find the 6 caves, give me 35 gooey things, hunt down 4 of these items and I won't give clue one as to where they can be found....the list is endless. Now, all this is glossed over by fans saying "but you can get those in or out of missions!". Yes, you can. Still doesn't change the fact that MMO makers can't think of anything else to fill the void.
The INSTANCES can be quite fun. However, they too have problems. Boss creatures not dropping keys to get past doors, causing a reset (however you do that). Some instances won't reset unless you log out for at least 10 minutes (this is a GM suggested fix btw). 10 minutes after you spent 15-20 trying to find a suitable crew to go through the mission. We attemped Torcastra prison 3 times last night...the boss never dropped the key. 4th try in, he did. Problem is, it took 20-30 minutes just to get to him every time. Fustration.
Lobomau, I understand you really like this game...you must have a higher tolerance to frustration than I do. The game play side is fun that's about the only part I agree with. I'm not a hater. My expectations were not high but they couldn't go any lower now.
@ the OP
TR has a lot of great qualities, but without great PvP it's all for naught.
That is lame comment. Not everyone play for PVP. Its a RPG and to roleplay in the TR setting, humans fighting humans? That is silly.
Now see THIS is a very well balanced discussion of TR's shortcomings instead of the usual trolls we see here.
I too am frustrated by the lack of auto stacking in the backpack and the footlocker. Surely that cannot be too hard for the devs to add in?
TBH, the points raised I think will eventually be fixed by later patches like in every other MMO I have played in. They all have their problems even years after release. It's a never ending cycle of content->bug->fix that every program suffers from.
Shatterpoint, besides the bugs described is there anything in the gameplay that is a turnoff that is a showstopper? Bugs can be fixed
I am enjoying the game a lot.
Original poster needs to look up the word "paragraph."
WHY do people want PVP in everything?
Why not go play a game like Fury which is focused on PVP instead?
That is lame comment. Not everyone play for PVP. Its a RPG and to roleplay in the TR setting, humans fighting humans? That is silly.
Well, TR might not have chosen to incorporate PVP on this basis, but countless Science Fiction stories/books I've read over the years have addressed exactly this topic. Even in the face of horrific alien invasions, humans were greedy and corrupt enough to still jockey for power even in the face of extinction.
Its not a new concept, and could have been incorporated into the story. Heck, human players could have been given the option to ally themselves with the Bane and been outlaws to other human settlements.
Don't excuse TR's choice as being outside the realm of possibility...it was just a choice they made when designing the game....nothing more, nothing less.....
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That is lame comment. Not everyone play for PVP. Its a RPG and to roleplay in the TR setting, humans fighting humans? That is silly.
Well, TR might not have chosen to incorporate PVP on this basis, but countless Science Fiction stories/books I've read over the years have addressed exactly this topic. Even in the face of horrific alien invasions, humans were greedy and corrupt enough to still jockey for power even in the face of extinction.
Its not a new concept, and could have been incorporated into the story. Heck, human players could have been given the option to ally themselves with the Bane and been outlaws to other human settlements.
Don't excuse TR's choice as being outside the realm of possibility...it was just a choice they made when designing the game....nothing more, nothing less.....
Now THIS I like as a reason for PVP being in the game if you are into that sort of thing.
It is a logical addition that doesnt really break the storyline but still anyone that allies with the Bane DESERVES to be shot
I really like the way LOTRO added PVP elements though where they stayed away from the normal classes of characters fighting each other.
All that leads to (from what I have seen in other games) is class X being seen as owning class Y and then class X gets the nerf bat making everyone else who plays PVE getting screwed over. A never ending cycle of class balancing ensues until the game is all screwed up.
PVP issues should never affect PVE gameplay...
The subject mater of the OP had to do with people complaining about TR. I'm giving an explanation as to why I'm complaining about the game.TR has the best combat system by far of any MMO, and it's constantly wasted on mindless bane. Tragedy!
It's very simple. Fury has a boring combat system, unlike TR.
several reasons
the game failed to deliver on the hype
the game was released far too early, too bugged, too shallow, and missing higher-level content
someone has to balance out the blatherings of the rabid fanbois and point out the blatant shortcomings of the game
it's just not worth 50 bucks for the box and 15 bucks a month
it plays more like a single-player game than an MMO
hell, the MMO side of it is laughable, as is the RPG side
I could continue, but why bother?
several reasons
the game failed to deliver on the hype - Looked at the box... never said anything about selling hype on it, only said "Richard Garrotts Tabula Rasa"
the game was released far too early, too bugged, too shallow, and missing higher-level content - Played Pre-Release and everything worked out fine for me, I experienced 0 bugs to date. As far as shallow goes it has as much depth needed to get the point across. High level content, I suppose I would worry about that when I actually reach that level, but regardless their is always something to do, whether it be clan wars or OP battles.
someone has to balance out the blatherings of the rabid fanbois and point out the blatant shortcomings of the game - The only short-comings are from ex-beta players crying that TR didn't turn out to be something "they" envisioned. Rather TR turned out to be what DG envisioned. If TR stays on the path of updates and content additions that they say they will, TR will offer more than what Sony did with EQ2, and will provide a world far more enthralling than WoW.
it's just not worth 50 bucks for the box and 15 bucks a month - Subjective as I have spent my hard earned money on worse. To me, to have fun from start to finish when I log on is worth more than what I paid for.
it plays more like a single-player game than an MMO - Perhaps you need to make some new friends and group up now and then. Perhaps join a clan or talk to a few people in the general chat. If your playing solo... your the only one at fault.
hell, the MMO side of it is laughable, as is the RPG side - Funny, I have seen more people in one general area than I have in any MMO to date. In fact TR puts the MMO back into MMO's in my opinion. I run around in the Commonlands of EQ, with hours that go by to find only a few players you ever come across. The same goes for Vanguard as well when I was playing.
I could continue, but why bother? - Good question, why do you bother trying to bring down a game you never played live?
That is lame comment. Not everyone play for PVP. Its a RPG and to roleplay in the TR setting, humans fighting humans? That is silly.
Well, TR might not have chosen to incorporate PVP on this basis, but countless Science Fiction stories/books I've read over the years have addressed exactly this topic. Even in the face of horrific alien invasions, humans were greedy and corrupt enough to still jockey for power even in the face of extinction.
Its not a new concept, and could have been incorporated into the story. Heck, human players could have been given the option to ally themselves with the Bane and been outlaws to other human settlements.
Don't excuse TR's choice as being outside the realm of possibility...it was just a choice they made when designing the game....nothing more, nothing less.....
Very interesting twist. Now that is a good setting in which we go PVP. In that case, Banes might be fighting among themselves too? And maybe we can take part in a Bane infight and drive our way back to Bane homeland?
Richard should hire you to write their script. With just a small twist you open up a full set of gaming events. Hats off to you my friend.
several reasons
the game failed to deliver on the hype
the game was released far too early, too bugged, too shallow, and missing higher-level content
someone has to balance out the blatherings of the rabid fanbois and point out the blatant shortcomings of the game
it's just not worth 50 bucks for the box and 15 bucks a month
it plays more like a single-player game than an MMO
hell, the MMO side of it is laughable, as is the RPG side
I could continue, but why bother?
Yeah I know about HG:L but what about TR?
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