TR has a lot of great qualities, but without great PvP it's all for naught.
That is lame comment. Not everyone play for PVP. Its a RPG and to roleplay in the TR setting, humans fighting humans? That is silly.
Well, TR might not have chosen to incorporate PVP on this basis, but countless Science Fiction stories/books I've read over the years have addressed exactly this topic. Even in the face of horrific alien invasions, humans were greedy and corrupt enough to still jockey for power even in the face of extinction.
Its not a new concept, and could have been incorporated into the story. Heck, human players could have been given the option to ally themselves with the Bane and been outlaws to other human settlements.
Don't excuse TR's choice as being outside the realm of possibility...it was just a choice they made when designing the game....nothing more, nothing less.....
Very interesting twist. Now that is a good setting in which we go PVP. In that case, Banes might be fighting among themselves too? And maybe we can take part in a Bane infight and drive our way back to Bane homeland?
Richard should hire you to write their script. With just a small twist you open up a full set of gaming events. Hats off to you my friend.
And I like that idea you just had about the Bane infighting among themselves...... both are plot ideas that could be implemented down the road in a future release w/o destroying the core game play.
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TR has a lot of great qualities, but without great PvP it's all for naught.
I have to agree with others, why would PvP matter in this game?
Have You looked the opening video, where humans left the earth. So it would be really stupid to fight human agaist humans, when You hole race is been exterminated by aliens. I think humans have bigger problems in mind in this world. Don't You care at all what the game is all about?
Originally posted by Kyleran
Originally posted by Orthedos
Originally posted by throckmorton
@ the OP
TR has a lot of great qualities, but without great PvP it's all for naught.
That is lame comment. Not everyone play for PVP. Its a RPG and to roleplay in the TR setting, humans fighting humans? That is silly.
Well, TR might not have chosen to incorporate PVP on this basis, but countless Science Fiction stories/books I've read over the years have addressed exactly this topic. Even in the face of horrific alien invasions, humans were greedy and corrupt enough to still jockey for power even in the face of extinction.
Its not a new concept, and could have been incorporated into the story. Heck, human players could have been given the option to ally themselves with the Bane and been outlaws to other human settlements.
Don't excuse TR's choice as being outside the realm of possibility...it was just a choice they made when designing the game....nothing more, nothing less.....
But the problem here is that humans who are rescued are hand picked, not just some power hunger criminals or people who likes to kill other people. So, You normal alien invasion doesn't work so well in this story. Not even humans starts inner wars, when they are allready in war.
There is no point in human vs human PvP. How ever human vs alien PvP could be possible.
I could continue, but why bother? - Good question, why do you bother trying to bring down a game you never played live?
I did play it live, I actually pre-ordered it in June on the strength of the game as it was back then. Unfortunately almost ever patch between then and the pre-order preview sucked the fun out of the game, failed to address the problems, and generally redefined 'meh'
after that, there was no way in hell i was subscribing to such a shoddy offering.
I had hoped that the game would improve with the good old Miracle Patch(tm) right before the pre-order preview weekend, but that hope was dashed against the rocks.
Now, after seeing the rudimentary roadmap for what they intend on adding to the game, I'm afraid that I have reset my previous thoughts that the game would actually be out of the current pay-to-beta stage within 3-6 monhs upwards. It's looking like it's going to take at least 6 mothns, if not a year, before it's actually truly ready for prime-time. Right now, it's only good for fanbois and DG's sycophants, it's certainly not in a state worthy of my investment of time, or money.
As you said, your mileage may vary and it sure does with many. I am one of those that I am sure to be labeled at as fanboi, but if thats the case so be it. I just happen to find the game highly entertaining and one of the few that I would say I am actually having fun in.
I am curious though, you said every patch "sucked the fun out"... what exactly happened for you specifically that you felt was sucked out in the course of those weeks for you to have such and a anti-fanboism hatred of TR?
read my post history - I'm not going to go over all that again just because you are too lazy to search plus, most of my comments have gone the way of the beta boards - I was far more active there before I was banned for being outspokenly critical
If I cared enough about your personal issues with TR perhaps I would. Though its not a issue of laziness, its just that its not that important to me to sift through. Now if it was important enough for you to continue on your tirade, then I would have assumed you to make the effort to summarize what you truly felt, much like you did a few posts back.
Now THIS I like as a reason for PVP being in the game if you are into that sort of thing. It is a logical addition that doesnt really break the storyline but still anyone that allies with the Bane DESERVES to be shot I really like the way LOTRO added PVP elements though where they stayed away from the normal classes of characters fighting each other.
All that leads to (from what I have seen in other games) is class X being seen as owning class Y and then class X gets the nerf bat making everyone else who plays PVE getting screwed over. A never ending cycle of class balancing ensues until the game is all screwed up. PVP issues should never affect PVE gameplay...
Actually, to go on a tangent.....pvp should not involve special coding. PvE, PvP, enemy npcs and players should all use the same coding. If something is imbalanced, it will be visible in all 4 aspects of the game. Fixing it should be a desired fix for pvp AND pve.
Instead, we have games built where enemies often are not using the same rules. That is why fixing pvp balance issues has caused problems in games like SWG and WoW. If the devs had the npcs playing by the same rules as us players, there wouldn't be an issue.
Sincerely I dont understand why so much hate! The bashing, trolling and insults to this game in this Forum is much highrer than in other games. The game is not a 10 of course, but isn´t bad either! It´s rather a good game, well balanced, few bugs and some interesting innovations and with great potential for the future. I´m enjoying very much playing this game. I started in the last weeks of Beta and couldn´t stop! I think one of the reasons of so much hate were the higher expectations for this game and when the early Beta started and the amount of bugs and few contents made lots of people flee from the game. But it was normal! It was an early Beta!! The bashing was very loud and continued even when the game was released and the major problems were solved. Great reviews, people telling that they didn´t liked in the Beta phase but now were having a blast playing it, fresh MMO´s players saying that they love this game, MMO veterans saying that this game is very good, nothing can´t stop this guys from bashing the game and stop saying "this game sucks"! Some didn´t even played the game since early Beta (June/July), others intend to draw TR players for other games (Neocron,HGL,SWG,etc...) and the majority are simpletons...Trolls! They are having fewer and fewer arguments but they don´t shut up! First were the bugs(it was a BETA), then it was the "shalow content"(again...it was a BETA), then was the poor graphics( how about having a better PC?), then the gameplay (it is diferent, like a FPS/RPG ,maybe is too diferent for people that are always demanding innovation but can´t see innovation even if it bites you in the...) one topic even said that the game was too fast!! I dont understand this behaviour! When I don´t like one game I just ignore him, even when I have high hopes and in the end the game isn´t what I hoped for (like HGL). But this people (or children) maybe don´t have a life and have plenty time to spare in futility. So, starting now, I will ignore any topic that attacks this game, I´m just sick of it! I will only post on topics that talk about something positive about this game or questions about TR.
Because the game plays, feels, and has the quality of the above bucket of poorly constructed text.
It has good intentions, but the actual implementation falls way short of AAA quality.
Sincerely I dont understand why so much hate! The bashing, trolling and insults to this game in this Forum is much highrer than in other games. The game is not a 10 of course, but isn´t bad either! It´s rather a good game, well balanced, few bugs and some interesting innovations and with great potential for the future. I´m enjoying very much playing this game. I started in the last weeks of Beta and couldn´t stop! I think one of the reasons of so much hate were the higher expectations for this game and when the early Beta started and the amount of bugs and few contents made lots of people flee from the game. But it was normal! It was an early Beta!! The bashing was very loud and continued even when the game was released and the major problems were solved. Great reviews, people telling that they didn´t liked in the Beta phase but now were having a blast playing it, fresh MMO´s players saying that they love this game, MMO veterans saying that this game is very good, nothing can´t stop this guys from bashing the game and stop saying "this game sucks"! Some didn´t even played the game since early Beta (June/July), others intend to draw TR players for other games (Neocron,HGL,SWG,etc...) and the majority are simpletons...Trolls! They are having fewer and fewer arguments but they don´t shut up! First were the bugs(it was a BETA), then it was the "shalow content"(again...it was a BETA), then was the poor graphics( how about having a better PC?), then the gameplay (it is diferent, like a FPS/RPG ,maybe is too diferent for people that are always demanding innovation but can´t see innovation even if it bites you in the...) one topic even said that the game was too fast!! I dont understand this behaviour! When I don´t like one game I just ignore him, even when I have high hopes and in the end the game isn´t what I hoped for (like HGL). But this people (or children) maybe don´t have a life and have plenty time to spare in futility. So, starting now, I will ignore any topic that attacks this game, I´m just sick of it! I will only post on topics that talk about something positive about this game or questions about TR.
Because the game plays, feels, and has the quality of the above bucket of poorly constructed text.
It has good intentions, but the actual implementation falls way short of AAA quality.
English is not my first language. Im Portuguese ,try to do a similar text in Portuguese and then you can talk how bad is my english.
Sincerely I dont understand why so much hate! The bashing, trolling and insults to this game in this Forum is much highrer than in other games. The game is not a 10 of course, but isn´t bad either! It´s rather a good game, well balanced, few bugs and some interesting innovations and with great potential for the future. I´m enjoying very much playing this game. I started in the last weeks of Beta and couldn´t stop! I think one of the reasons of so much hate were the higher expectations for this game and when the early Beta started and the amount of bugs and few contents made lots of people flee from the game. But it was normal! It was an early Beta!! The bashing was very loud and continued even when the game was released and the major problems were solved. Great reviews, people telling that they didn´t liked in the Beta phase but now were having a blast playing it, fresh MMO´s players saying that they love this game, MMO veterans saying that this game is very good, nothing can´t stop this guys from bashing the game and stop saying "this game sucks"! Some didn´t even played the game since early Beta (June/July), others intend to draw TR players for other games (Neocron,HGL,SWG,etc...) and the majority are simpletons...Trolls! They are having fewer and fewer arguments but they don´t shut up! First were the bugs(it was a BETA), then it was the "shalow content"(again...it was a BETA), then was the poor graphics( how about having a better PC?), then the gameplay (it is diferent, like a FPS/RPG ,maybe is too diferent for people that are always demanding innovation but can´t see innovation even if it bites you in the...) one topic even said that the game was too fast!! I dont understand this behaviour! When I don´t like one game I just ignore him, even when I have high hopes and in the end the game isn´t what I hoped for (like HGL). But this people (or children) maybe don´t have a life and have plenty time to spare in futility. So, starting now, I will ignore any topic that attacks this game, I´m just sick of it! I will only post on topics that talk about something positive about this game or questions about TR.
LEGOS!! ... not logos.
If we keep quoting, we can have enough to make a castle!! wewt
it actually is logos. and i know u were being ironic but please save ur humor for somewhere else.. aint that fun u know...
and no, i dont get why ppl hate this game.. i love it.. must be the best mo out there so far.
TR has a lot of great qualities, but without great PvP it's all for naught.
I have to agree with others, why would PvP matter in this game? Have You looked the opening video, where humans left the earth. So it would be really stupid to fight human agaist humans, when You hole race is been exterminated by aliens. I think humans have bigger problems in mind in this world. Don't You care at all what the game is all about?
When was the last time you got a large group of people together and there was perfect harmony, and everyone sang kumbaya?
TR does not have an IP so they can take the story to wherever they want. Betrayal usually makes a good plot twist.
My real motivation is that the combat system of TR is so good that it screams PvP!
...The bashing, trolling and insults to this game in this Forum is much highrer than in other games. ...
Why does everyone always think their game is the one that's picked on the most? People bash all games here--this is an equal-opportunity game-bashing zone.
Besides, who cares? It only matters whether you and your friends like the game. The opinions of those--especially those who are not playing--matters not.
Apply lemon juice and candle flame here to reveal secret message.
actually the whole point IS to stop other people from paying $ for the game. First mistake a GAMER can never and should never warn or try to stop people from buying or playing a game bases on your personal opinion, anyone doing so can be considerd either totaly new to games or just plain ignorant. the few people who do enjoy the game seem to have 2 inch thick ruby glasses on to not be seeing the fact that its not a very good game (for the myraid of of reasons posted all over this forum). the fact that those same people keep hyping the game itself worries me because LOTS of people feel jipped (if not a more profane word). Lol the few people, man why do you feel the need to mislead people, or are you trying to blindside and compare it with WOW subs, which tR was never meant to surpase or come close to, never meant to be that. Obviously you have NOT played TR. i think alot of the problem is not many people out there are willing to say "i play shitty games" and since this is the game they are playing there must be no way in hell it can be described as above. maybe if people stopped trying to hype it (or really lets be honest blow smoke up rectums is the real way it is) we would stop having to stomp it every 5 min. Sorry man but you must be VERY new to gaming. enough lies have already covered this game, you are only perpetuating it. give it a year, maybe at that point youll atleast be able to say "alot has been improved", right now most of the people who have played it are not going to let hype build their sub-base.This is true indeed most of those who seem to not like the game continue to spread lies, most of them also show they don't seem to REALLY play the game as in use all feature's, as most complaints seems to come frm the grind tyep of player who does nothing but PEW PEW and LVL.
Like i said before it seems many people are very limited when it comes to playing games, your reaction seems to be coming from someone either new to games or simply very shallow in type of games you play. Else you would have a differernt reaction then to act this ignorant...in my opinion.
I played in beta, and didn't really like the game much. I don't like shooters, so that pretty much ended it for me. However, that is not why I posted some negative comments back then. I am all in favor of letting people make their own choices.
My problem is that right on the front page of the local Austin Chronicle is RG's picture, and inside is an article and interview with him. In that article, he says the game is "really groundbreaking" and proceeds to assert that TR somehow avoided the problems of traditional MMO's.
I don't think the game is groundbreaking at all, and never did get anyone to say what makes it so revolutionary. I can get the same gameplay from CoH: just play an assault rifle blaster and hang out in the Rikti War Zone.
For me, all the hype turned out to be just that: "hype" to be polite, or marketing BS to be accurate. Just like any other game. And just like any other game, it plays very traditionally. It is that hype that makes me mad, not the game itself. To have a supposed game world icon (RG) basically just spout marketing BS made me mad.
As for the game itself, I rated it a 6.5, and possibly a bit higher for those who really like shooters.
why on earth should I rehash everytthing I have found TR wanting for just to satisfy you? you are the one who asked for my reasoning, I told you where to find it, you've refused to exert the effort to look all I can say to that is 'say hello to my little ignore list'
Well regardless if you can read this or not, the fact is this: You continue to go on and on about TR and how its the "suxxor". You yourself continue to rehash your own thoughts on a daily basis in every pro-active thread on TR. In fact, your replies always seem to be the same copy+paste time after time. Your the only one rehashing your own words, how would have answering my simple question have been any different from any of your other replies?
As far as the "ignore" welcome to mine as well. Heres counting #2.
Ok...Lots of posts about PvP...My humble opinion is...that this game would be perfect with a good PvP. Not Humans Vs Humans, but playable Bane Vs Humans! That would be perfect! Imagine ,at least one or more Planets where the playable Bane could level with interesting content and quests and then one or two or even more planets where the playable Humans would clash the Playable Bane!! Oh God! The orgasm...
Well I wish someone would have stopped me when I spent the money to buy this game. Its not a new game, its not even fun to me really. The character customization is very dull, very dull, you'd think that Oblivion or SWG would have set a point with in depth character customization. Though the people are usually armored up.
Where is the Player housing?
Where is the unique features?
Graphics are not even great but takes a lot to run them...
Nothing cool about crafting....
Maybe I've played too many games in my days and expect an outstanding game that has it all, I.E., huge world, so huge that there is only one server. Able to build your own city from scratch. Inter-act with player building and NPC buildings with the game, like forts and so forth. Totally customizing characters and a couple dozen classes to choose from. Like your running around trying to do a mission or quest and out of nowhere a NPC comes over to you asking for help and over there hill is a little house being attacked by baddies and you have to help the NPC and what not. like a real living MMORPG world. Just something that will grab you and be like, wow.....
Other than that its just the same ol' same ol', Its too much like another hyped up grinding game from PlayNC
Originally posted by Kyleran Originally posted by Orthedos Originally posted by throckmorton @ the OP
TR has a lot of great qualities, but without great PvP it's all for naught.
That is lame comment. Not everyone play for PVP. Its a RPG and to roleplay in the TR setting, humans fighting humans? That is silly.
Well, TR might not have chosen to incorporate PVP on this basis, but countless Science Fiction stories/books I've read over the years have addressed exactly this topic. Even in the face of horrific alien invasions, humans were greedy and corrupt enough to still jockey for power even in the face of extinction. Its not a new concept, and could have been incorporated into the story. Heck, human players could have been given the option to ally themselves with the Bane and been outlaws to other human settlements. Don't excuse TR's choice as being outside the realm of possibility...it was just a choice they made when designing the game....nothing more, nothing less.....
right on bro I am so loving this post.
Something is missing from TR man I cant put my finger on it yet.
Just feels like a fake, static battlefield where nothing I do means anything. no impact. just another MMO wit no heart. I'll try to play it somemore but Mass Effect just seeems so much more interesting...
Sorry TR fans no disrespect this game is admirable but I am upset at the guys giving this game like 9s and 10s at metacritic.
But it is fun however it pure easymode so far.
I bet it will get grindy around level 30 just like city of heroes. I know its gonna get shallow towards the middle.
this game could have been so innovative man. Where is the dynamic battlefields. Does the Bane EVER take human bases away??????
I have not seen that much hate on this forum compare to many other game (Vanguard). I even saw so many positive reviews and comment that I went to buy the during the weekend and I have a blast. I have played during beta and the thing that kepp me away from buying it was the UI (not use to FPS style).
I do not recall the hype to be that high either, but anyway, I needed a good sci-fi game and I am glad I like TR (not so many Sci-Fi game on the maket).
Get a life you freaking Gamer.....no no, you don't understand, I'm a Gamer, I have many lives!!
Now THIS I like as a reason for PVP being in the game if you are into that sort of thing. It is a logical addition that doesnt really break the storyline but still anyone that allies with the Bane DESERVES to be shot I really like the way LOTRO added PVP elements though where they stayed away from the normal classes of characters fighting each other.
All that leads to (from what I have seen in other games) is class X being seen as owning class Y and then class X gets the nerf bat making everyone else who plays PVE getting screwed over. A never ending cycle of class balancing ensues until the game is all screwed up. PVP issues should never affect PVE gameplay...
Actually, to go on a tangent.....pvp should not involve special coding. PvE, PvP, enemy npcs and players should all use the same coding. If something is imbalanced, it will be visible in all 4 aspects of the game. Fixing it should be a desired fix for pvp AND pve.
Instead, we have games built where enemies often are not using the same rules. That is why fixing pvp balance issues has caused problems in games like SWG and WoW. If the devs had the npcs playing by the same rules as us players, there wouldn't be an issue.
Unfortunately this is rarely the case as the NPCs are not the same classes as the players or using the same skills etc so there are basic differences
See if people starting whining that the sniper pwns them in PVP cause they cant get close enough to them then the devs nerf the sniping. That in turns screws with the PVE aspect.
Then others start whining the medics are overpowering PVP cause they heal the players too much then healing gets nerfed which in turn affects PVE.
A never ending spiral ensues.
IMO on LOTRO solved this cause there is no PVP between the character classes, only Player vs Monster so therefore no balancing issues ensue.
TR could do the exact same thing by allowing players to play the Bane which would side step the issue and make things like the combat way more fun cause there would be some real intelligence behind the CP assaults and defence.
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That is lame comment. Not everyone play for PVP. Its a RPG and to roleplay in the TR setting, humans fighting humans? That is silly.
Well, TR might not have chosen to incorporate PVP on this basis, but countless Science Fiction stories/books I've read over the years have addressed exactly this topic. Even in the face of horrific alien invasions, humans were greedy and corrupt enough to still jockey for power even in the face of extinction.
Its not a new concept, and could have been incorporated into the story. Heck, human players could have been given the option to ally themselves with the Bane and been outlaws to other human settlements.
Don't excuse TR's choice as being outside the realm of possibility...it was just a choice they made when designing the game....nothing more, nothing less.....
Very interesting twist. Now that is a good setting in which we go PVP. In that case, Banes might be fighting among themselves too? And maybe we can take part in a Bane infight and drive our way back to Bane homeland?
Richard should hire you to write their script. With just a small twist you open up a full set of gaming events. Hats off to you my friend.
And I like that idea you just had about the Bane infighting among themselves...... both are plot ideas that could be implemented down the road in a future release w/o destroying the core game play.
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I have to agree with others, why would PvP matter in this game?
Have You looked the opening video, where humans left the earth. So it would be really stupid to fight human agaist humans, when You hole race is been exterminated by aliens. I think humans have bigger problems in mind in this world. Don't You care at all what the game is all about?
That is lame comment. Not everyone play for PVP. Its a RPG and to roleplay in the TR setting, humans fighting humans? That is silly.
Well, TR might not have chosen to incorporate PVP on this basis, but countless Science Fiction stories/books I've read over the years have addressed exactly this topic. Even in the face of horrific alien invasions, humans were greedy and corrupt enough to still jockey for power even in the face of extinction.
Its not a new concept, and could have been incorporated into the story. Heck, human players could have been given the option to ally themselves with the Bane and been outlaws to other human settlements.
Don't excuse TR's choice as being outside the realm of possibility...it was just a choice they made when designing the game....nothing more, nothing less.....
But the problem here is that humans who are rescued are hand picked, not just some power hunger criminals or people who likes to kill other people. So, You normal alien invasion doesn't work so well in this story. Not even humans starts inner wars, when they are allready in war.
There is no point in human vs human PvP. How ever human vs alien PvP could be possible.
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I did play it live, I actually pre-ordered it in June on the strength of the game as it was back then. Unfortunately almost ever patch between then and the pre-order preview sucked the fun out of the game, failed to address the problems, and generally redefined 'meh'
after that, there was no way in hell i was subscribing to such a shoddy offering.
I had hoped that the game would improve with the good old Miracle Patch(tm) right before the pre-order preview weekend, but that hope was dashed against the rocks.
Now, after seeing the rudimentary roadmap for what they intend on adding to the game, I'm afraid that I have reset my previous thoughts that the game would actually be out of the current pay-to-beta stage within 3-6 monhs upwards. It's looking like it's going to take at least 6 mothns, if not a year, before it's actually truly ready for prime-time. Right now, it's only good for fanbois and DG's sycophants, it's certainly not in a state worthy of my investment of time, or money.
of course, your mileage varies
As you said, your mileage may vary and it sure does with many. I am one of those that I am sure to be labeled at as fanboi, but if thats the case so be it. I just happen to find the game highly entertaining and one of the few that I would say I am actually having fun in.
I am curious though, you said every patch "sucked the fun out"... what exactly happened for you specifically that you felt was sucked out in the course of those weeks for you to have such and a anti-fanboism hatred of TR?
read my post history - I'm not going to go over all that again just because you are too lazy to search
plus, most of my comments have gone the way of the beta boards - I was far more active there before I was banned for being outspokenly critical
If I cared enough about your personal issues with TR perhaps I would. Though its not a issue of laziness, its just that its not that important to me to sift through. Now if it was important enough for you to continue on your tirade, then I would have assumed you to make the effort to summarize what you truly felt, much like you did a few posts back.
Perhaps its not I, who is lazy here.
why on earth should I rehash everytthing I have found TR wanting for just to satisfy you?
you are the one who asked for my reasoning, I told you where to find it, you've refused to exert the effort to look
all I can say to that is
'say hello to my little ignore list'
Instead, we have games built where enemies often are not using the same rules. That is why fixing pvp balance issues has caused problems in games like SWG and WoW. If the devs had the npcs playing by the same rules as us players, there wouldn't be an issue.
It has good intentions, but the actual implementation falls way short of AAA quality.
It has good intentions, but the actual implementation falls way short of AAA quality.
English is not my first language. Im Portuguese ,try to do a similar text in Portuguese and then you can talk how bad is my english.
LEGOS!! ... not logos.
If we keep quoting, we can have enough to make a castle!! wewt
it actually is logos. and i know u were being ironic but please save ur humor for somewhere else.. aint that fun u know...and no, i dont get why ppl hate this game.. i love it.. must be the best mo out there so far.
LoboMau ignore the stupid flamers.. some ppl are so igorant they cud make a living out of it..
TR does not have an IP so they can take the story to wherever they want. Betrayal usually makes a good plot twist.
My real motivation is that the combat system of TR is so good that it screams PvP!
The clan vs clan pvp is a lot of fun... and it still lets people who want to play PVE only have their game. No complaints from me.
Besides, who cares? It only matters whether you and your friends like the game. The opinions of those--especially those who are not playing--matters not.
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Like i said before it seems many people are very limited when it comes to playing games, your reaction seems to be coming from someone either new to games or simply very shallow in type of games you play. Else you would have a differernt reaction then to act this ignorant...in my opinion.
I played in beta, and didn't really like the game much. I don't like shooters, so that pretty much ended it for me. However, that is not why I posted some negative comments back then. I am all in favor of letting people make their own choices.
My problem is that right on the front page of the local Austin Chronicle is RG's picture, and inside is an article and interview with him. In that article, he says the game is "really groundbreaking" and proceeds to assert that TR somehow avoided the problems of traditional MMO's.
I don't think the game is groundbreaking at all, and never did get anyone to say what makes it so revolutionary. I can get the same gameplay from CoH: just play an assault rifle blaster and hang out in the Rikti War Zone.
For me, all the hype turned out to be just that: "hype" to be polite, or marketing BS to be accurate. Just like any other game. And just like any other game, it plays very traditionally. It is that hype that makes me mad, not the game itself. To have a supposed game world icon (RG) basically just spout marketing BS made me mad.
As for the game itself, I rated it a 6.5, and possibly a bit higher for those who really like shooters.
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As far as the "ignore" welcome to mine as well. Heres counting #2.
Ok...Lots of posts about PvP...My humble opinion is...that this game would be perfect with a good PvP. Not Humans Vs Humans, but playable Bane Vs Humans! That would be perfect! Imagine ,at least one or more Planets where the playable Bane could level with interesting content and quests and then one or two or even more planets where the playable Humans would clash the Playable Bane!! Oh God! The orgasm...
Well I wish someone would have stopped me when I spent the money to buy this game. Its not a new game, its not even fun to me really. The character customization is very dull, very dull, you'd think that Oblivion or SWG would have set a point with in depth character customization. Though the people are usually armored up.
Where is the Player housing?
Where is the unique features?
Graphics are not even great but takes a lot to run them...
Nothing cool about crafting....
Maybe I've played too many games in my days and expect an outstanding game that has it all, I.E., huge world, so huge that there is only one server. Able to build your own city from scratch. Inter-act with player building and NPC buildings with the game, like forts and so forth. Totally customizing characters and a couple dozen classes to choose from. Like your running around trying to do a mission or quest and out of nowhere a NPC comes over to you asking for help and over there hill is a little house being attacked by baddies and you have to help the NPC and what not. like a real living MMORPG world. Just something that will grab you and be like, wow.....
Other than that its just the same ol' same ol', Its too much like another hyped up grinding game from PlayNC
But thats my opinion.
That is lame comment. Not everyone play for PVP. Its a RPG and to roleplay in the TR setting, humans fighting humans? That is silly.
Well, TR might not have chosen to incorporate PVP on this basis, but countless Science Fiction stories/books I've read over the years have addressed exactly this topic. Even in the face of horrific alien invasions, humans were greedy and corrupt enough to still jockey for power even in the face of extinction.
Its not a new concept, and could have been incorporated into the story. Heck, human players could have been given the option to ally themselves with the Bane and been outlaws to other human settlements.
Don't excuse TR's choice as being outside the realm of possibility...it was just a choice they made when designing the game....nothing more, nothing less.....
right on bro I am so loving this post.
Something is missing from TR man I cant put my finger on it yet.
Just feels like a fake, static battlefield where nothing I do means anything. no impact. just another MMO wit no heart. I'll try to play it somemore but Mass Effect just seeems so much more interesting...
Sorry TR fans no disrespect this game is admirable but I am upset at the guys giving this game like 9s and 10s at metacritic.
But it is fun however it pure easymode so far.
I bet it will get grindy around level 30 just like city of heroes. I know its gonna get shallow towards the middle.
this game could have been so innovative man. Where is the dynamic battlefields. Does the Bane EVER take human bases away??????
I have not seen that much hate on this forum compare to many other game (Vanguard). I even saw so many positive reviews and comment that I went to buy the during the weekend and I have a blast. I have played during beta and the thing that kepp me away from buying it was the UI (not use to FPS style).
I do not recall the hype to be that high either, but anyway, I needed a good sci-fi game and I am glad I like TR (not so many Sci-Fi game on the maket).
Get a life you freaking Gamer.....no no, you don't understand, I'm a Gamer, I have many lives!!
several reasons
the game failed to deliver on the hype opinion
the game was released far too early, too bugged, too shallow, and missing higher-level content opinion
someone has to balance out the blatherings of the rabid fanbois and point out the blatant shortcomings of the game LOL
it's just not worth 50 bucks for the box and 15 bucks a month opinion
it plays more like a single-player game than an MMO opinion
hell, the MMO side of it is laughable, as is the RPG side opinion
I could continue, but why bother?
Here's another opinion...you are full of s**t and noone is taking you seriously so take the hint and go away
You are entitled to your opinion but stop shoving it down our throats!
Instead, we have games built where enemies often are not using the same rules. That is why fixing pvp balance issues has caused problems in games like SWG and WoW. If the devs had the npcs playing by the same rules as us players, there wouldn't be an issue.
Unfortunately this is rarely the case as the NPCs are not the same classes as the players or using the same skills etc so there are basic differences
See if people starting whining that the sniper pwns them in PVP cause they cant get close enough to them then the devs nerf the sniping. That in turns screws with the PVE aspect.
Then others start whining the medics are overpowering PVP cause they heal the players too much then healing gets nerfed which in turn affects PVE.
A never ending spiral ensues.
IMO on LOTRO solved this cause there is no PVP between the character classes, only Player vs Monster so therefore no balancing issues ensue.
TR could do the exact same thing by allowing players to play the Bane which would side step the issue and make things like the combat way more fun cause there would be some real intelligence behind the CP assaults and defence.