1. It's not "free." I pay a fee each month. 2. Where we used to get a small to mid size patch each month, we are now going to get a mid to large size mod each 3-6 months. This is a vast reduction in the amount of content released. That is my complaint.
Actually, it's at no additional charge...which is free. Additionally, your description of the content release isn't remotely in line with what the devs have stated...which is the same amount of content as a .0, .1, and .2 release all combined into one module...and those modules on a 10 week cycle.
So it's absolutely no difference in the amount of content released.
Agrees with poster above... Also, I find it odd that someone would actually complain about Turbines patching / free content philosophy
So, do you even play? If you do, how long have you played for?
1. It's not "free." I pay a fee each month.
2. Where we used to get a small to mid size patch each month, we are now going to get a mid to large size mod each 3-6 months. This is a vast reduction in the amount of content released. That is my complaint.
When AC2 closed down, Turbine offered the remaining players a spot in DDO beta. So, I have played awhile.
1. Im not gonna start a debate if its free or not, it doesnt matter. Turbine's free updates are the best around, end of discussion.
2. You complain about lack of content updates, when you play a game where this is the best around. Thats my point. You have no feet to stand on in this discussion, because it flawed to the core.
BTW, prior to the next release for WoW (2.3), the last time they got new content that didn't come in it's own box with a price tag stuck on the front was 1.11.0...in June of 2006.
1. It's not "free." I pay a fee each month. 2. Where we used to get a small to mid size patch each month, we are now going to get a mid to large size mod each 3-6 months. This is a vast reduction in the amount of content released. That is my complaint.
Actually, it's at no additional charge...which is free. Additionally, your description of the content release isn't remotely in line with what the devs have stated...which is the same amount of content as a .0, .1, and .2 release all combined into one module...and those modules on a 10 week cycle.
So it's absolutely no difference in the amount of content released.
As Mod 6 isn't even out yet, you must be pulling this out of your .....
From what I've seen, it is, in fact, not as big as the old system.
BTW, prior to the next release for WoW (2.3), the last time they got new content that didn't come in it's own box with a price tag stuck on the front was 1.11.0...in June of 2006.
Agrees with poster above... Also, I find it odd that someone would actually complain about Turbines patching / free content philosophy
So, do you even play? If you do, how long have you played for?
1. It's not "free." I pay a fee each month.
2. Where we used to get a small to mid size patch each month, we are now going to get a mid to large size mod each 3-6 months. This is a vast reduction in the amount of content released. That is my complaint.
When AC2 closed down, Turbine offered the remaining players a spot in DDO beta. So, I have played awhile.
1. Im not gonna start a debate if its free or not, it doesnt matter. Turbine's free updates are the best around, end of discussion.
2. You complain about lack of content updates, when you play a game where this is the best around. Thats my point. You have no feet to stand on in this discussion, because it flawed to the core.
How big are most MMO's that come out? Don't answer, I'll tell you. They are a heck of a lot bigger than DDO was at the beginning. Almost 2 years out and DDO is still smaller, content wise, than many MMO's are at launch. (Yes, the limited content we have is generally better than other MMO's.)
Just an FYI for you on your second point. When discussing things that are, in general, opinions - saying that one person doesn't have a "foot to stand on," is kinda retarded. Obviously the conent and content release schedule works great for you, but it doesn't for me. I want the content released sooner, bigger, and on time. I would like Turbine to say what they mean and mean what they say, and to get back to a regular on-time release schedule. Or at the very least for the new supposedly (and promised) bigger content releases to actually, y'know, be bigger.
Instead it appears that the new release schedule is, at best, no bigger than a regular old style mod, which would equate to a REDUCTION in the release of new contnet.
As Mod 6 isn't even out yet, you must be pulling this out of your .....
From what I've seen, it is, in fact, not as big as the old system.
Um...no...actually it's from the mouth of Kate Paiz, producer of DDO, stated clearly during her interview with DDOCast.
Regardless, in about a month when Mod 6 goes live and there's not merely 5 quests in it, you'll have officially lost all credibility...so I can be patient.
How big are most MMO's that come out? Don't answer, I'll tell you. They are a heck of a lot bigger than DDO was at the beginning. Almost 2 years out and DDO is still smaller, content wise, than many MMO's are at launch. (Yes, the limited content we have is generally better than other MMO's.)
Just an FYI for you on your second point. When discussing things that are, in general, opinions - saying that one person doesn't have a "foot to stand on," is kinda retarded. Obviously the conent and content release schedule works great for you, but it doesn't for me. I want the content released sooner, bigger, and on time. I would like Turbine to say what they mean and mean what they say, and to get back to a regular on-time release schedule. Or at the very least for the new supposedly (and promised) bigger content releases to actually, y'know, be bigger. Instead it appears that the new release schedule is, at best, no bigger than a regular old style mod, which would equate to a REDUCTION in the release of new contnet.
You have to help me out here... are we discussing conent at launch and how big the game is, or turbines patching updates?
Yes - DDO is a relative small game
Yes - DDO had limited amount of content at launch
Does that change the fact that they bring alot more high quality updates compared to other mmo companies? No.
I know its only your opinion, and this is only my opinion. All i meant by you had no feet to stand on is - you complain about a service that is currently best one around. It makes no sense to me, sorry.
Learn to read Deadly I never flat out name called I said you come off as a Troll. Perhaps if your posts were full of more substance I wouldn't have such an opinion of you but your posts are Trollish in nature which is sad because this thread could of been a decent debate instead of a listen to me i'm right your all wrong thread it is.
But thanks for solidfying my belief that you are one. (now im name calling) thank you come again
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
As Mod 6 isn't even out yet, you must be pulling this out of your .....
From what I've seen, it is, in fact, not as big as the old system.
Um...no...actually it's from the mouth of Kate Paiz, producer of DDO, stated clearly during her interview with DDOCast.
Regardless, in about a month when Mod 6 goes live and there's not merely 5 quests in it, you'll have officially lost all credibility...so I can be patient.
If I went back and looked for quotes from Turbine reps, would I find any that were false?
If it comes out and it's huge, I'll happily eat my words. From what I have seen, It is, in fact, NOT huge.
How big are most MMO's that come out? Don't answer, I'll tell you. They are a heck of a lot bigger than DDO was at the beginning. Almost 2 years out and DDO is still smaller, content wise, than many MMO's are at launch. (Yes, the limited content we have is generally better than other MMO's.)
Just an FYI for you on your second point. When discussing things that are, in general, opinions - saying that one person doesn't have a "foot to stand on," is kinda retarded. Obviously the conent and content release schedule works great for you, but it doesn't for me. I want the content released sooner, bigger, and on time. I would like Turbine to say what they mean and mean what they say, and to get back to a regular on-time release schedule. Or at the very least for the new supposedly (and promised) bigger content releases to actually, y'know, be bigger. Instead it appears that the new release schedule is, at best, no bigger than a regular old style mod, which would equate to a REDUCTION in the release of new contnet.
You have to help me out here... are we discussing conent at launch and how big the game is, or turbines patching updates?
Yes - DDO is a relative small game
Yes - DDO had limited amount of content at launch
Does that change the fact that they bring alot more high quality updates compared to other mmo companies? No.
I know its only your opinion, and this is only my opinion. All i meant by you had no feet to stand on is - you complain about a service that is currently best one around. It makes no sense to me, sorry.
My point is merly that we are at almost Launch + 2 years and the game is still smaller than many games are at launch, so even with the contnet releases, we are behind what I would term a "healthy" amount of content.
I would also have to argue with the whole concept of "quality" in the releases, some have been awesome, some have been complete dogs. I usually gloss over the question of "quality" when it comes to content, as one persons junk is anothers treasure. So that first sentence is IMO.
Learn to read Deadly I never flat out name called I said you come off as a Troll. Perhaps if your posts were full of more substance I wouldn't have such an opinion of you but your posts are Trollish in nature which is sad because this thread could of been a decent debate instead of a listen to me i'm right your all wrong thread it is.
But thanks for solidfying my belief that you are one. (now im name calling) thank you come again
You have contribute nothing to the discussion at hand, except for name calling. Looking over your posts I see it is a habit of yours. I'd say more, but I prefer to stay above the levels to which you choose to stoop.
As Mod 6 isn't even out yet, you must be pulling this out of your .....
From what I've seen, it is, in fact, not as big as the old system.
Um...no...actually it's from the mouth of Kate Paiz, producer of DDO, stated clearly during her interview with DDOCast.
Regardless, in about a month when Mod 6 goes live and there's not merely 5 quests in it, you'll have officially lost all credibility...so I can be patient.
If I went back and looked for quotes from Turbine reps, would I find any that were false?
If it comes out and it's huge, I'll happily eat my words. From what I have seen, It is, in fact, NOT huge.
Well, you stated that I must be making things up because you didn't see any evidence of the 10 week release cycle or the inclusion of the .1 and .2 releases into one mod...so whether or not Turbine actually does it, has not bearing on the discussion...which was if I was talking out of my...
I was quoting the Producer of DDO.
Now, you'll happily eat your words if it's not "huge"??? Hmmm, interesting that you're suddenly going all subjective. You stated that it was 5 quests...if it's more than that...you have zero credibility left. Period.
My point is merly that we are at almost Launch + 2 years and the game is still smaller than many games are at launch, so even with the contnet releases, we are behind what I would term a "healthy" amount of content.
I would also have to argue with the whole concept of "quality" in the releases, some have been awesome, some have been complete dogs. I usually gloss over the question of "quality" when it comes to content, as one persons junk is anothers treasure. So that first sentence is IMO.
As Mod 6 isn't even out yet, you must be pulling this out of your .....
From what I've seen, it is, in fact, not as big as the old system.
Um...no...actually it's from the mouth of Kate Paiz, producer of DDO, stated clearly during her interview with DDOCast.
Regardless, in about a month when Mod 6 goes live and there's not merely 5 quests in it, you'll have officially lost all credibility...so I can be patient.
If I went back and looked for quotes from Turbine reps, would I find any that were false?
If it comes out and it's huge, I'll happily eat my words. From what I have seen, It is, in fact, NOT huge.
Well, you stated that I must be making things up because you didn't see any evidence of the 10 week release cycle or the inclusion of the .1 and .2 releases into one mod...so whether or not Turbine actually does it, has not bearing on the discussion...which was if I was talking out of my...
I was quoting the Producer of DDO.
Now, you'll happily eat your words if it's not "huge"??? Hmmm, interesting that you're suddenly going all subjective. You stated that it was 5 quests...if it's more than that...you have zero credibility left. Period.
Shall I go dig up some quotes too? How about the one where the producer said that Evasion in Heavy Armor was working as intended? (Not commenting on the actual change, just that what actually happened was contrary to what the dev was quoted as saying would or would not happen.) I'm sure if I turn out to be right, you'll come back with the old "it wasn't written in stone" argument.
You seem to be basing your opinion of the size of Mod 6 on the words of developers, words that have shown in the past to be highly flexible and open to interpatation. It is possible that more will be added than what I have seen, but the Mod is due in 3-7 weeks. I hope they leave some time for testing this HUGE amount of content you "believe" is included. So yeah, I'm man enough to eat my humble pie when I'm wrong, guess we'll have to see if you can say the same.
Shall I go dig up some quotes too? How about the one where the producer said that Evasion in Heavy Armor was working as intended? (Not commenting on the actual change, just that what actually happened was contrary to what the dev was quoted as saying would or would not happen.) I'm sure if I turn out to be right, you'll come back with the old "it wasn't written in stone" argument.
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ABSOLUTELY!!!...Go dig that up. Guess what, never happened. I actually know what the quote DID say, and it had nothing to do with armor.
Shall I go dig up some quotes too? How about the one where the producer said that Evasion in Heavy Armor was working as intended? (Not commenting on the actual change, just that what actually happened was contrary to what the dev was quoted as saying would or would not happen.) I'm sure if I turn out to be right, you'll come back with the old "it wasn't written in stone" argument.
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ABSOLUTELY!!!...Go dig that up. Guess what, never happened. I actually know what the quote DID say, and it had nothing to do with armor.
Once again, you are flat out wrong. Unfortunately, due to the forum purge, the post is lost. Feel free to try and dig up the post you THINK im talkin about.
How about some newer ones?
State of the Game?
Monks/Druids by winter 2008?
I really have no horse in the race vis-a-vis these particular issues, merley stating them to show the foolishness of taking a quote as a promise as to what will actually be. It is my position, that come the release of Mod 6, we will be able to add "Less often but much bigger," to the list of dev quotes that turn out to be patently false.
That's interesting, the page you linked to is incomplete... This page includes all of their death effects - over there you also take 10% damage to all equipped items when you die, and all objects in your entire inventory lose 25% if you use a Spirit Healer instead of running back to your body.
There was quite a bit of research done before we selected these penalties.
"Raar."
So does anyone need anything else to show/prove the potential suckage for Mod 6? In case you don't get that quote, that's one of the DDO devs using WoW as a justification for changes to be implemented in Mod 6. I've run across hundreds of people in my time in DDO who have left WoW for DDO. To date, not one has wished they would make DDO more like WoW.
Module 6: It's WoWser!!!
Module 6: It's WoWtastic!
Perhaps Module 7 will be a revamp of the combat system, in order to bring the game closer to WoW. No one likes the real time combat anyway. Sheesh!
The reason DDO is better than other MMO's (in my opinion) has nothing to do with the death penalties, its the combat system, quests, and character customization, this change won't hurt my enjoyment (and I don't just mean because I play permadeath, I've got non-pd guys too ).
As far as Dev's not living up to promises because something came up between Febuary and December... welcome to MMO's. S#$% happens, MMO devs interact with their playerbase and being human they sometimes make mistakes. It's not some giant conspiricy to take all your money (thats Hellgate )
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Perhaps Module 7 will be a revamp of the combat system, in order to bring the game closer to WoW. No one likes the real time combat anyway. Sheesh!
I just read all the dev posts in the thread you quoted. There is nothing there to support your line about justifying the changes with WoW. They researched several games that used a similar system, WoW came up because a player mentioned it and these guys are actually answering the questions that players are posting.
1. You say I'm making things up when I say the Devs intend to do a 10 week release cycle with all the .X releases combined into the mods...I point you to exactly where the producer of the game said so (not that it won't come true, that I was full of s for saying it)
FALSE
2. You say that Mod 6 is small, there's only 5 quests, and other claims. Guess what sport, it went live on Risia tonight...
FALSE
3. You claim that a dev once said that evasion in heavy armor was working as intended and wouldn't be changed...then when called on it, can't produce the quote...
FALSE
Sorry guy, that's 3 strikes...go troll another board.
p.s. The quote wasn't on the forums, it was an interview with Eckelberry where he was asked about Batman builds...and all he said was he was thinking of trying one...not that the evasion in heavy armor thing was good, going to stay, or working as intended.
1. You say I'm making things up when I say the Devs intend to do a 10 week release cycle with all the .X releases combined into the mods...I point you to exactly where the producer of the game said so (not that it won't come true, that I was full of s for saying it) FALSE 2. You say that Mod 6 is small, there's only 5 quests, and other claims. Guess what sport, it went live on Risia tonight... FALSE 3. You claim that a dev once said that evasion in heavy armor was working as intended and wouldn't be changed...then when called on it, can't produce the quote... FALSE
Sorry guy, that's 3 strikes...go troll another board.
p.s. The quote wasn't on the forums, it was an interview with Eckelberry where he was asked about Batman builds...and all he said was he was thinking of trying one...not that the evasion in heavy armor thing was good, going to stay, or working as intended. Go sell crazy somewhere else assclown.
1. Please find where I said you were making things up. I said you were basing your assertion on what dev's have said publicly, and that the dev's don't have the best track record for doing what they say. Please, in the future, attempt to get your point across without lying about the other guy. It's really kinda lame, though it does give me an idea of the type of person you are.
2. Yup it went live. Does it look as big as 4.0, 4.1, 4.2, and 4.3 put together? Because that's what we were told to expect. Less releases, but just as much content as before. Sure doesn't look that way to me, it's not even as big as 4.0 was. I call this a reduction in content releases, not an increase. Pair the new REDUCED release schedule with the continual delay of expected (and it could be argued, needed) other content (Crafting, Races, Classes, non-quest content in general) and you have an ugly picture for the future.
3. Your wrong, again. (Your wrong so much, I don't even know why I continue to remind you.) You seem to like asking for quotes, how about diggin the one up from the forums? Oh, that's right, you can't.
Good job resorting to names at the end. It is a much used system to deflect attention when you are unable to make your point in a constructive manner. I've chatted with you here, and on the DDO forums before you were probaly banned, and you have a tendancy to resort to name calling when faced with adversity and differing opinions.
If you are so sure you are right, you could have just posted a list of missions to prove your point. But you can't do that can you Vinny? At least you can't do it and continue the charade that Mod 6 is so huge it dwarves all previous releases.
I just read all the dev posts in the thread you quoted. There is nothing there to support your line about justifying the changes with WoW. They researched several games that used a similar system, WoW came up because a player mentioned it and these guys are actually answering the questions that players are posting.
You might want to conduct some more research then. Or maybe yo could read the quote in my posy a couple above yours. Calling it WoWtastic is me simply being tongue-in-cheek.
However, saying you have researched several games (including WoW) and that your new system is in line with OTHER games is silly. Alot play DDO for the differences. I really don't think you need to make changes to bring the game more in line with WoW or any other sub-par game. DDO rocks, I want to make sure it continues to rock.
How many people will see the new Death change and say "Wow, this is just what I have been waiting for!" and sign up, vs the amount of current players who say "Well, this sucks. I think I'll go try (insert game name here.)"
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Actually, it's at no additional charge...which is free. Additionally, your description of the content release isn't remotely in line with what the devs have stated...which is the same amount of content as a .0, .1, and .2 release all combined into one module...and those modules on a 10 week cycle.
So it's absolutely no difference in the amount of content released.
So, do you even play? If you do, how long have you played for?
1. It's not "free." I pay a fee each month.
2. Where we used to get a small to mid size patch each month, we are now going to get a mid to large size mod each 3-6 months. This is a vast reduction in the amount of content released. That is my complaint.
When AC2 closed down, Turbine offered the remaining players a spot in DDO beta. So, I have played awhile.
1. Im not gonna start a debate if its free or not, it doesnt matter. Turbine's free updates are the best around, end of discussion.
2. You complain about lack of content updates, when you play a game where this is the best around. Thats my point. You have no feet to stand on in this discussion, because it flawed to the core.
BTW, prior to the next release for WoW (2.3), the last time they got new content that didn't come in it's own box with a price tag stuck on the front was 1.11.0...in June of 2006.
just for a point of reference.
Actually, it's at no additional charge...which is free. Additionally, your description of the content release isn't remotely in line with what the devs have stated...which is the same amount of content as a .0, .1, and .2 release all combined into one module...and those modules on a 10 week cycle.
So it's absolutely no difference in the amount of content released.
As Mod 6 isn't even out yet, you must be pulling this out of your .....From what I've seen, it is, in fact, not as big as the old system.
And your point is?
I didn't think we were discussing WoW.
So, do you even play? If you do, how long have you played for?
1. It's not "free." I pay a fee each month.
2. Where we used to get a small to mid size patch each month, we are now going to get a mid to large size mod each 3-6 months. This is a vast reduction in the amount of content released. That is my complaint.
When AC2 closed down, Turbine offered the remaining players a spot in DDO beta. So, I have played awhile.
1. Im not gonna start a debate if its free or not, it doesnt matter. Turbine's free updates are the best around, end of discussion.
2. You complain about lack of content updates, when you play a game where this is the best around. Thats my point. You have no feet to stand on in this discussion, because it flawed to the core.
How big are most MMO's that come out? Don't answer, I'll tell you. They are a heck of a lot bigger than DDO was at the beginning. Almost 2 years out and DDO is still smaller, content wise, than many MMO's are at launch. (Yes, the limited content we have is generally better than other MMO's.)Just an FYI for you on your second point. When discussing things that are, in general, opinions - saying that one person doesn't have a "foot to stand on," is kinda retarded. Obviously the conent and content release schedule works great for you, but it doesn't for me. I want the content released sooner, bigger, and on time. I would like Turbine to say what they mean and mean what they say, and to get back to a regular on-time release schedule. Or at the very least for the new supposedly (and promised) bigger content releases to actually, y'know, be bigger.
Instead it appears that the new release schedule is, at best, no bigger than a regular old style mod, which would equate to a REDUCTION in the release of new contnet.
Um...no...actually it's from the mouth of Kate Paiz, producer of DDO, stated clearly during her interview with DDOCast.
Regardless, in about a month when Mod 6 goes live and there's not merely 5 quests in it, you'll have officially lost all credibility...so I can be patient.
Yes - DDO is a relative small game
Yes - DDO had limited amount of content at launch
Does that change the fact that they bring alot more high quality updates compared to other mmo companies? No.
I know its only your opinion, and this is only my opinion. All i meant by you had no feet to stand on is - you complain about a service that is currently best one around. It makes no sense to me, sorry.
Learn to read Deadly I never flat out name called I said you come off as a Troll. Perhaps if your posts were full of more substance I wouldn't have such an opinion of you but your posts are Trollish in nature which is sad because this thread could of been a decent debate instead of a listen to me i'm right your all wrong thread it is.
But thanks for solidfying my belief that you are one. (now im name calling) thank you come again
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
Um...no...actually it's from the mouth of Kate Paiz, producer of DDO, stated clearly during her interview with DDOCast.
Regardless, in about a month when Mod 6 goes live and there's not merely 5 quests in it, you'll have officially lost all credibility...so I can be patient.
If I went back and looked for quotes from Turbine reps, would I find any that were false?
If it comes out and it's huge, I'll happily eat my words. From what I have seen, It is, in fact, NOT huge.
Yes - DDO is a relative small game
Yes - DDO had limited amount of content at launch
Does that change the fact that they bring alot more high quality updates compared to other mmo companies? No.
I know its only your opinion, and this is only my opinion. All i meant by you had no feet to stand on is - you complain about a service that is currently best one around. It makes no sense to me, sorry.
My point is merly that we are at almost Launch + 2 years and the game is still smaller than many games are at launch, so even with the contnet releases, we are behind what I would term a "healthy" amount of content.I would also have to argue with the whole concept of "quality" in the releases, some have been awesome, some have been complete dogs. I usually gloss over the question of "quality" when it comes to content, as one persons junk is anothers treasure. So that first sentence is IMO.
You have contribute nothing to the discussion at hand, except for name calling. Looking over your posts I see it is a habit of yours. I'd say more, but I prefer to stay above the levels to which you choose to stoop.
Um...no...actually it's from the mouth of Kate Paiz, producer of DDO, stated clearly during her interview with DDOCast.
Regardless, in about a month when Mod 6 goes live and there's not merely 5 quests in it, you'll have officially lost all credibility...so I can be patient.
If I went back and looked for quotes from Turbine reps, would I find any that were false?
If it comes out and it's huge, I'll happily eat my words. From what I have seen, It is, in fact, NOT huge.
Well, you stated that I must be making things up because you didn't see any evidence of the 10 week release cycle or the inclusion of the .1 and .2 releases into one mod...so whether or not Turbine actually does it, has not bearing on the discussion...which was if I was talking out of my...
I was quoting the Producer of DDO.
Now, you'll happily eat your words if it's not "huge"??? Hmmm, interesting that you're suddenly going all subjective. You stated that it was 5 quests...if it's more than that...you have zero credibility left. Period.
Its all relative
Um...no...actually it's from the mouth of Kate Paiz, producer of DDO, stated clearly during her interview with DDOCast.
Regardless, in about a month when Mod 6 goes live and there's not merely 5 quests in it, you'll have officially lost all credibility...so I can be patient.
If I went back and looked for quotes from Turbine reps, would I find any that were false?
If it comes out and it's huge, I'll happily eat my words. From what I have seen, It is, in fact, NOT huge.
Well, you stated that I must be making things up because you didn't see any evidence of the 10 week release cycle or the inclusion of the .1 and .2 releases into one mod...so whether or not Turbine actually does it, has not bearing on the discussion...which was if I was talking out of my...
I was quoting the Producer of DDO.
Now, you'll happily eat your words if it's not "huge"??? Hmmm, interesting that you're suddenly going all subjective. You stated that it was 5 quests...if it's more than that...you have zero credibility left. Period.
Shall I go dig up some quotes too? How about the one where the producer said that Evasion in Heavy Armor was working as intended? (Not commenting on the actual change, just that what actually happened was contrary to what the dev was quoted as saying would or would not happen.) I'm sure if I turn out to be right, you'll come back with the old "it wasn't written in stone" argument.You seem to be basing your opinion of the size of Mod 6 on the words of developers, words that have shown in the past to be highly flexible and open to interpatation. It is possible that more will be added than what I have seen, but the Mod is due in 3-7 weeks. I hope they leave some time for testing this HUGE amount of content you "believe" is included. So yeah, I'm man enough to eat my humble pie when I'm wrong, guess we'll have to see if you can say the same.
ABSOLUTELY!!!...Go dig that up. Guess what, never happened. I actually know what the quote DID say, and it had nothing to do with armor.
ABSOLUTELY!!!...Go dig that up. Guess what, never happened. I actually know what the quote DID say, and it had nothing to do with armor.
Once again, you are flat out wrong. Unfortunately, due to the forum purge, the post is lost. Feel free to try and dig up the post you THINK im talkin about.
How about some newer ones?
State of the Game?
Monks/Druids by winter 2008?
I really have no horse in the race vis-a-vis these particular issues, merley stating them to show the foolishness of taking a quote as a promise as to what will actually be. It is my position, that come the release of Mod 6, we will be able to add "Less often but much bigger," to the list of dev quotes that turn out to be patently false.
I did come up with some nice names for Mod 6:
Module 6: Get your Grind on!
Module 6: Smaller = Bigger
Module 6: Subpar players need not apply
Eladrin wrote:
That's interesting, the page you linked to is incomplete... This page includes all of their death effects - over there you also take 10% damage to all equipped items when you die, and all objects in your entire inventory lose 25% if you use a Spirit Healer instead of running back to your body.
There was quite a bit of research done before we selected these penalties.
"Raar."
So does anyone need anything else to show/prove the potential suckage for Mod 6? In case you don't get that quote, that's one of the DDO devs using WoW as a justification for changes to be implemented in Mod 6. I've run across hundreds of people in my time in DDO who have left WoW for DDO. To date, not one has wished they would make DDO more like WoW.
Module 6: It's WoWser!!!
Module 6: It's WoWtastic!
Perhaps Module 7 will be a revamp of the combat system, in order to bring the game closer to WoW. No one likes the real time combat anyway. Sheesh!
The reason DDO is better than other MMO's (in my opinion) has nothing to do with the death penalties, its the combat system, quests, and character customization, this change won't hurt my enjoyment (and I don't just mean because I play permadeath, I've got non-pd guys too
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As far as Dev's not living up to promises because something came up between Febuary and December... welcome to MMO's. S#$% happens, MMO devs interact with their playerbase and being human they sometimes make mistakes. It's not some giant conspiricy to take all your money (thats Hellgate
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Perhaps Module 7 will be a revamp of the combat system, in order to bring the game closer to WoW. No one likes the real time combat anyway. Sheesh!
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And maybe I'll win 32 million in Powerball
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I just read all the dev posts in the thread you quoted. There is nothing there to support your line about justifying the changes with WoW. They researched several games that used a similar system, WoW came up because a player mentioned it and these guys are actually answering the questions that players are posting.
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OK, just so we're clear and to keep score...
1. You say I'm making things up when I say the Devs intend to do a 10 week release cycle with all the .X releases combined into the mods...I point you to exactly where the producer of the game said so (not that it won't come true, that I was full of s for saying it)
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2. You say that Mod 6 is small, there's only 5 quests, and other claims. Guess what sport, it went live on Risia tonight...
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3. You claim that a dev once said that evasion in heavy armor was working as intended and wouldn't be changed...then when called on it, can't produce the quote...
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Sorry guy, that's 3 strikes...go troll another board.
p.s. The quote wasn't on the forums, it was an interview with Eckelberry where he was asked about Batman builds...and all he said was he was thinking of trying one...not that the evasion in heavy armor thing was good, going to stay, or working as intended.
Go sell crazy somewhere else assclown.
If you wanna read some info straight from the devs, here you go:
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=129631
I'd say Mod 6 isn't sounding bad at all.
2. Yup it went live. Does it look as big as 4.0, 4.1, 4.2, and 4.3 put together? Because that's what we were told to expect. Less releases, but just as much content as before. Sure doesn't look that way to me, it's not even as big as 4.0 was. I call this a reduction in content releases, not an increase. Pair the new REDUCED release schedule with the continual delay of expected (and it could be argued, needed) other content (Crafting, Races, Classes, non-quest content in general) and you have an ugly picture for the future.
3. Your wrong, again. (Your wrong so much, I don't even know why I continue to remind you.) You seem to like asking for quotes, how about diggin the one up from the forums? Oh, that's right, you can't.
Good job resorting to names at the end. It is a much used system to deflect attention when you are unable to make your point in a constructive manner. I've chatted with you here, and on the DDO forums before you were probaly banned, and you have a tendancy to resort to name calling when faced with adversity and differing opinions.
If you are so sure you are right, you could have just posted a list of missions to prove your point. But you can't do that can you Vinny? At least you can't do it and continue the charade that Mod 6 is so huge it dwarves all previous releases.
You could also check this out for numerous dissenting opinions:
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=129727
You might want to conduct some more research then. Or maybe yo could read the quote in my posy a couple above yours. Calling it WoWtastic is me simply being tongue-in-cheek.
However, saying you have researched several games (including WoW) and that your new system is in line with OTHER games is silly. Alot play DDO for the differences. I really don't think you need to make changes to bring the game more in line with WoW or any other sub-par game. DDO rocks, I want to make sure it continues to rock.
How many people will see the new Death change and say "Wow, this is just what I have been waiting for!" and sign up, vs the amount of current players who say "Well, this sucks. I think I'll go try (insert game name here.)"