You all know if you don't stop bashing the game so often and aimlessly your going to go blind right? If you hate it so much, go away. If you dont like it and want to help the developers go give them a list of what you would like to see. Half of you are bear-huntin with a stick. Although, I hear that is often what trolls do.....
definitely that. Couldn't be that we're on a message board designed for people to express views about MMO's...both good and bad...and sharing those views.
Of course, if you give POTBS a big enough bear hug, maybe it won't see the criticism.
I'm sure a message board with posts entitled "This game ROXXORS!" and "OH NO!...THIS GAME REALLY ROXXORS!" over and over would be fascinating, but that's not what we do here.
aye...this is a neutral forum. I suggest you defend your favorite game with points about it that are good and not just settle on calling people a troll.
Either complients for the game are too hard to find, or the words are too hard to spell.
I've had fun Beta testing POTBS. It's not the best game I've ever played but It could be alot of fun. I'm gonna buy it and give it a whirl and see how it progresses. It is already fun to play and if they build on that it can only get better. At the very least it will entertain me until I can play AOC or WAR.
You all know if you don't stop bashing the game so often and aimlessly your going to go blind right? If you hate it so much, go away. If you dont like it and want to help the developers go give them a list of what you would like to see. Half of you are bear-huntin with a stick. Although, I hear that is often what trolls do.....
definitely that. Couldn't be that we're on a message board designed for people to express views about MMO's...both good and bad...and sharing those views.
Of course, if you give POTBS a big enough bear hug, maybe it won't see the criticism.
I'm sure a message board with posts entitled "This game ROXXORS!" and "OH NO!...THIS GAME REALLY ROXXORS!" over and over would be fascinating, but that's not what we do here.
I don't agree with most of the negatives Taram posts, but he at least gives reasons. A lot of the posts in this thread, however, are nothing more than 'I gived it up after one night because it suxz0rz'. REALLY helpful and insightful... Certainly not a reason to get sarcastic... all in my imagination, no doubt...
I don't agree with most of the negatives Taram posts, but he at least gives reasons. A lot of the posts in this thread, however, are nothing more than 'I gived it up after one night because it suxz0rz'. REALLY helpful and insightful... Certainly not a reason to get sarcastic... all in my imagination, no doubt...
=p Linna
I don't give any more credit to "this game suxxors" than "this game roxxors", but there's more than enough of both to go around. Only difference is, the negative posters don't tell the positive ones to "go away".
You all know if you don't stop bashing the game so often and aimlessly your going to go blind right? If you hate it so much, go away. If you dont like it and want to help the developers go give them a list of what you would like to see. Half of you are bear-huntin with a stick. Although, I hear that is often what trolls do.....
definitely that. Couldn't be that we're on a message board designed for people to express views about MMO's...both good and bad...and sharing those views.
Of course, if you give POTBS a big enough bear hug, maybe it won't see the criticism.
I'm sure a message board with posts entitled "This game ROXXORS!" and "OH NO!...THIS GAME REALLY ROXXORS!" over and over would be fascinating, but that's not what we do here.
I don't agree with most of the negatives Taram posts, but he at least gives reasons. A lot of the posts in this thread, however, are nothing more than 'I gived it up after one night because it suxz0rz'. REALLY helpful and insightful... Certainly not a reason to get sarcastic... all in my imagination, no doubt...
=p
Linna
Notice I said half of you are bear huntin with a stick.
In other words the half of of the negative comments are players dashing through these forums after one night of disappointment ranting "OMGz I hate this game and I want to shout it on top of a mountain!"
The other half give good reasons and opinions that people can debate over.
In other words, It is hard for the developers to get anything out the normal post.
Notice I said half of you are bear huntin with a stick.
In other words the half of of the negative comments are players dashing through these forums after one night of disappointment ranting "OMGz I hate this game and I want to shout it on top of a mountain!" The other half give good reasons and opinions that people can debate over. In other words, It is hard for the developers to get anything out the normal post. Atleast Linna figured out what I was saying
Well, if the devs are looking for more than hurt feelings on a non-official website reviewing a beta game, they're going to be sadly disappointed.
Game is releasing to early I think. Avatar movement is so slow it feels like sleep walking. Avatar combat is so boring one time I was fighting three guys in this tavern and I nodded off. Admittedly it was after midnight and I had a hard day at work beforehand, but still...Also the land part of the game is god aweful laggy. Sadly I think Vanguard ran better than this game.
But, it's still beta. I pray these guys can pull a rabbit out of the hat because there is the kernel of a very good niche game here, and it's something besides fantasy so kudos to them.
Yes, if they can get performance under control, it might be modestly successful, but if they launch with crappy performance, buggy, and without polish they will pay dearly.
Originally posted by Shifty360 You all know if you don't stop bashing the game so often and aimlessly your going to go blind right? If you hate it so much, go away. If you dont like it and want to help the developers go give them a list of what you would like to see. Half of you are bear-huntin with a stick. Although, I hear that is often what trolls do.....
We bash those kind of Games because the Developers don't seem to learn that they should stop Producing bad Games.
You all know if you don't stop bashing the game so often and aimlessly your going to go blind right?
If you hate it so much, go away.
If you dont like it and want to help the developers go give them a list of what you would like to see.
Half of you are bear-huntin with a stick.
Although, I hear that is often what trolls do.....
We bash those kind of Games because the Developers don't seem to learn that they should stop Producing bad Games.
Do you really think your bashing is going to make Flying Labs Entertainment bow down on one knee and stop making PoTBS ()? really? like..... really really?
Yes, combat can be slow... half the fight is getting in a position where you can actually do some damage... but damn if it isn't the best pvp kick I've had in years... If that captain had panicked and turned, by the way, i'd have had him... I think...
A fine example, this isn't a 1st person shooter.
Combat is slow because this isn't modern warfare, not hard to figure out that you can't instantly warp on top of another ship. If you have ADD then this isn't the game for you.
I'm looking for a refreshing change of pace to bridge the gap waiting for Warhammer/AoC to come out. A solid game without Elves/Orcs/Dorfs is just what I'm looking for and I've found it with PotBS.
I laugh at the 'I tried it for 1 day' people, give me a break. These people are the dreaded 'impulse shoppers' of MMOs, I wouldn't put any stock in what they have to say.
Well, that's the crux of the problem, isn't it, Vicenz? What constitutes a bad game? Personally, I think that Wow, along with a lot of other people, is an MMO without much substance and is way too easy, but apparently 6 million+ other people think that it's a great game. So, you could say the majority rules in this case, which is why so many other games are trying to follow in their footsteps.
Of course, you have the other end of the spectrum with Eve Online, where the numbers haven't yet hit a million (I don't think), and yet it is regarded as a good game, successful in its own right.
Flying Labs software isn't a new studio without a history. They have produced a successful game before and they are in the enviable position of being in the black, as it were, without the necessity of finding financial backers to fund their project. They're not looking to make the 'next big thing'. They're making a game which they themselves were interested in playing and added onto that idea to what you see now, with many more ideas in the works for the future.
Right now, you have to ask yourself several questions:
1. Do you like the core game, ie. ship combat, economic system? If not, then it's not going to get any better. This is it and how it was always intended to be. If you do, then hopefully the game is simply going to get better as they improve upon it and add new ideas to the game.
2. Do you believe in FLS as a studio to improve upon the game taking it from 'so-so' now to 'great' later? Again, if not, then you simply shouldn't waste your time further. If so, then you'll find that FLS is one of the most communicative development studios out there, staying in contact with the fanbase as much as they can, explaining why or why not things are the way they are.
I'm not asking anyone to like the game. Either they do, or they don't. Arguing about why you do or don't like it is simply futile, as it is all opinion based, with everyone having their own opinion as to what constitutes a 'good' game.
I personally love the ship to ship combat and do feel that the OS is a bit too fast. I think it should take an hour, at least, to sail across the Caribbean in a game, though I can live with the concession as it is now. Avatar combat is rough right now, but is being improved with each build. It's less of a button-mashing contest to more strategic considerations of balance and initiative. In the future, they will be adding player run towns and outposts, as well as possible housing.
I've played my share of on-line games and this one plays better than most of the ones I've played. Sure it has problems with lag in the bigger/starter cities and other minor problems but the overall game mechanics work well in my opinion. I don't know why some people don't like the avatar combat or skill trees , but I'm having a blast so I quess to each his own. I normally destroy the ships sails, grape shot the crew and than board to capture the ship. My only problem with the ground combat is locating the enemy captain amoung his crew, someone give me some glue to anchor his arse to the deck please! Many have complained about the quests being repetative, and to a certain degree that is true, but what on-line game isn't? If you have some ideas how to improve that, why not let the designers know what you want? (and for heavens sake let the designers of Wow, EQ2, etc know too!)
Although the path of character enlightment is fun in my opinion and not so fun for others, the man part of the game really doesn't start until we reach that state...City Conquest! Here the game will either make it or break. If the Nation verus Nation/Pirate conflict isn't fun, than all else is just a minor annoyance. Not many games offer a high end that has as much potential as this game has, certainly WoW or EQ2 don't! Most games peter out after you made the high level, all thats left is high end gear/raids, here the fun just starts when you flesh out! For someone like me who loved DAoC's realm verus realm, it just doesn't get any better than this!
If this games repetative quests and avatar combat doesn't appeal to you, than apparently this game isn't your cup of tea, although I have to wonder which game does those better in your opinion. Well heres hoping you find your dream game somewhere, now I must shove off to get back to my plans of conquesting the nasty Spanards/English dogs while subdueing the wily Pirates! Bon Voyage my friends!
I've played my share of on-line games and this one plays better than most of the ones I've played. Sure it has problems with lag in the bigger/starter cities and other minor problems but the overall game mechanics work well in my opinion. I don't know why some people don't like the avatar combat or skill trees , but I'm having a blast so I quess to each his own. I normally destroy the ships sails, grape shot the crew and than board to capture the ship. My only problem with the ground combat is locating the enemy captain amoung his crew, someone give me some glue to anchor his arse to the deck please! Many have complained about the quests being repetative, and to a certain degree that is true, but what on-line game isn't? If you have some ideas how to improve that, why not let the designers know what you want? (and for heavens sake let the designers of Wow, EQ2, etc know too!) Although the path of character enlightment is fun in my opinion and not so fun for others, the man part of the game really doesn't start until we reach that state...City Conquest! Here the game will either make it or break. If the Nation verus Nation/Pirate conflict isn't fun, than all else is just a minor annoyance. Not many games offer a high end that has as much potential as this game has, certainly WoW or EQ2 don't! Most games peter out after you made the high level, all thats left is high end gear/raids, here the fun just starts when you flesh out! For someone like me who loved DAoC's realm verus realm, it just doesn't get any better than this! If this games repetative quests and avatar combat doesn't appeal to you, than apparently this game isn't your cup of tea, although I have to wonder which game does those better in your opinion. Well heres hoping you find your dream game somewhere, now I must shove off to get back to my plans of conquesting the nasty Spanards/English dogs while subdueing the wily Pirates! Bon Voyage my friends!
/agreed
I've been playing COH/COV for the last years as my main game, in-between beta testing other MMOs. The game dates from 2004. So let's see...
- unbearable lag in busy areas? check (try Atlas Park during a Rikti invasion wave for a double treat)
- repeat use of maps? check (I knew all the map patterns by heart after a few months of play, can walk them blindfolded now)
- still has unfinished areas? check. Cathedral of Pain was part of the COV expansion (issue 6) and is supposed to enable full base raids. We're on issue 11 now, and it's still not in game
- still has bugs? check. most notorious are the 'mob stuck in wall' and the persistent detoggling bug upon changing zones (has been around forever)
- still has balancing issues? check. villain/hero pvp is decidedly unbalanced once the epics/patron powers come into play.
And yet, I think COH/COV is a VERY well thought out game, that provides hours of fun if you're into that sort of game. The avatar combat is second to none, and the tailors are a costume fancier's wet dream. And why is it fun? Because it does what it purports to do VERY well.
Pirates of the Burning Sea was even in Closed Beta more bugfree and complete that ANY other game I've beta tested the last two years. It does what IT purports to do (ship combat) extremely well and pretty much bugfree. There are some problems with the Avatar combat (mostly in that it lacks fluidity), BUT IT WORKS. The specials all do what they are supposed to do, there are no skills that go 'oops, sorry, not implemented yet'. Yes, the basic missions can be repetitive, although I personally never minded (used to worse, frankly). We all know that, thanks. I also know, however, that they are CONSTANTLY revamping missions and putting in completely new mission types, a lot of which are truly amazing (my personal favorite still being the one where you 'wake up' after a battle to the ship's surgeon telling you 'sorry about your leg'.
I honestly think that anyone who thinks this game needs more time in beta is out of their minds. As for the people who didn't like it after a week or so of testing: sorry, but there's a good chance this is simply not your cup of tea. The game doesn't even PRETEND it's trying to please everyone. It is what it is, and you will love it or hate it based on that.
Linna
PS: Buegur: Hamstring in Dirty Fighting slows down captains by 30%. Makes player runners hate you. ;-)
So , in essence , OP wants unlimited ammo in a naval ship combat game eh ? Yes , i can see how it would be lame to "limit cannon balls"
While I agree the avatar system is horrifying beyond reason ( it really looks like some shit out of the mid 90's) , the ship combat is fun and worth it to give it a go on the all access pass for a whlie
But wanting unlimited ammo has got to be a joke of a request
So , in essence , OP wants unlimited ammo in a naval ship combat game eh ? Yes , i can see how it would be lame to "limit cannon balls"
While I agree the avatar system is horrifying beyond reason ( it really looks like some shit out of the mid 90's) , the ship combat is fun and worth it to give it a go on the all access pass for a whlie
But wanting unlimited ammo has got to be a joke of a request
I'd say the OP also hasn't played the game. Basic shot IS free.
linna and toadkiller just got the classic 3 stooges skull knock that I have been waiting for. YES... basic shot is unlimited (eat it toadkiller and all of you "realism" fans that haven't played the game enough) but it sucks, and the standard shot that everyone wants to use, is not unlimited which is a drag on the game. If it were super-powered, I would be feel differently about it, but it basically is the cannonballs that you see every pirate ship shoot endlessly all the time.
Anyway, this game still is a train wreck, and isn't fun, balanced, deep, or anything. I have seen a lot of very long paragraphs trying to make mountains out of mole hills, like defending the weak avatar combat system, but you shouldn't believe someone who is defending a system that was implemented in one week.
I'm sorry, I wanted to love this game too, but it's just not fun... sid meier's pirates IS fun, other mmo's are also fun... this game is in no way parallel to either. Who knows maybe port royale will make an mmo.
All i can say is you were looking for a different game and did not find it within this one. I had a great time playing this game as did lots of other people.
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Accurate review, this game sucks ass and I gave it up after 1 night as well...
But the avatars / characters you create are brilliantly done, so fire the level design team and give the character modellers a raise.
You all know if you don't stop bashing the game so often and aimlessly your going to go blind right?
If you hate it so much, go away.
If you dont like it and want to help the developers go give them a list of what you would like to see.
Half of you are bear-huntin with a stick.
Although, I hear that is often what trolls do.....
definitely that. Couldn't be that we're on a message board designed for people to express views about MMO's...both good and bad...and sharing those views.
Of course, if you give POTBS a big enough bear hug, maybe it won't see the criticism.
I'm sure a message board with posts entitled "This game ROXXORS!" and "OH NO!...THIS GAME REALLY ROXXORS!" over and over would be fascinating, but that's not what we do here.
aye...this is a neutral forum. I suggest you defend your favorite game with points about it that are good and not just settle on calling people a troll.
Either complients for the game are too hard to find, or the words are too hard to spell.
I've had fun Beta testing POTBS. It's not the best game I've ever played but It could be alot of fun. I'm gonna buy it and give it a whirl and see how it progresses. It is already fun to play and if they build on that it can only get better. At the very least it will entertain me until I can play AOC or WAR.
definitely that. Couldn't be that we're on a message board designed for people to express views about MMO's...both good and bad...and sharing those views.
Of course, if you give POTBS a big enough bear hug, maybe it won't see the criticism.
I'm sure a message board with posts entitled "This game ROXXORS!" and "OH NO!...THIS GAME REALLY ROXXORS!" over and over would be fascinating, but that's not what we do here.
I don't agree with most of the negatives Taram posts, but he at least gives reasons. A lot of the posts in this thread, however, are nothing more than 'I gived it up after one night because it suxz0rz'. REALLY helpful and insightful... Certainly not a reason to get sarcastic... all in my imagination, no doubt...
=p
Linna
I don't give any more credit to "this game suxxors" than "this game roxxors", but there's more than enough of both to go around. Only difference is, the negative posters don't tell the positive ones to "go away".
definitely that. Couldn't be that we're on a message board designed for people to express views about MMO's...both good and bad...and sharing those views.
Of course, if you give POTBS a big enough bear hug, maybe it won't see the criticism.
I'm sure a message board with posts entitled "This game ROXXORS!" and "OH NO!...THIS GAME REALLY ROXXORS!" over and over would be fascinating, but that's not what we do here.
I don't agree with most of the negatives Taram posts, but he at least gives reasons. A lot of the posts in this thread, however, are nothing more than 'I gived it up after one night because it suxz0rz'. REALLY helpful and insightful... Certainly not a reason to get sarcastic... all in my imagination, no doubt...
=p
Linna
Notice I said half of you are bear huntin with a stick.
In other words the half of of the negative comments are players dashing through these forums after one night of disappointment ranting "OMGz I hate this game and I want to shout it on top of a mountain!"
The other half give good reasons and opinions that people can debate over.
In other words, It is hard for the developers to get anything out the normal
post.
Atleast Linna figured out what I was saying
Well, if the devs are looking for more than hurt feelings on a non-official website reviewing a beta game, they're going to be sadly disappointed.
The developers have recieved the info they needed from these forums in the past.
Go check the publishes on the main page.
Game is releasing to early I think. Avatar movement is so slow it feels like sleep walking. Avatar combat is so boring one time I was fighting three guys in this tavern and I nodded off. Admittedly it was after midnight and I had a hard day at work beforehand, but still...Also the land part of the game is god aweful laggy. Sadly I think Vanguard ran better than this game.
But, it's still beta. I pray these guys can pull a rabbit out of the hat because there is the kernel of a very good niche game here, and it's something besides fantasy so kudos to them.
Yes, if they can get performance under control, it might be modestly successful, but if they launch with crappy performance, buggy, and without polish they will pay dearly.
We bash those kind of Games because the Developers don't seem to learn that they should stop Producing bad Games.
We bash those kind of Games because the Developers don't seem to learn that they should stop Producing bad Games.
Do you really think your bashing is going to make Flying Labs Entertainment bow down on one knee and stop making PoTBS (
lol did i say that?
"We bash those kind of Games because the Developers don't seem to learn that they should stop Producing bad Games."
Lets see
Who?
"We bash those kind of Games"
- Naturally, saying we means you are involved.
Why?
"because the Developers don't seem to learn that they should stop Producing bad Games"
- You have your reason for bashing, along with the result you aspire to have.
Sounds like it
A fine example, this isn't a 1st person shooter.
Combat is slow because this isn't modern warfare, not hard to figure out that you can't instantly warp on top of another ship. If you have ADD then this isn't the game for you.
I'm looking for a refreshing change of pace to bridge the gap waiting for Warhammer/AoC to come out. A solid game without Elves/Orcs/Dorfs is just what I'm looking for and I've found it with PotBS.
I laugh at the 'I tried it for 1 day' people, give me a break. These people are the dreaded 'impulse shoppers' of MMOs, I wouldn't put any stock in what they have to say.
I don't know shifty...this might be complicated for you, but let's see if you can follow along anyways...
he said stop making BAD games, not stop making games all together.
That help?
Attempting to insult my intelligence over a small error won't help.
Would you like me to change it to PoTBS? What I said will still carry the same effect.
Well, that's the crux of the problem, isn't it, Vicenz? What constitutes a bad game? Personally, I think that Wow, along with a lot of other people, is an MMO without much substance and is way too easy, but apparently 6 million+ other people think that it's a great game. So, you could say the majority rules in this case, which is why so many other games are trying to follow in their footsteps.
Of course, you have the other end of the spectrum with Eve Online, where the numbers haven't yet hit a million (I don't think), and yet it is regarded as a good game, successful in its own right.
Flying Labs software isn't a new studio without a history. They have produced a successful game before and they are in the enviable position of being in the black, as it were, without the necessity of finding financial backers to fund their project. They're not looking to make the 'next big thing'. They're making a game which they themselves were interested in playing and added onto that idea to what you see now, with many more ideas in the works for the future.
Right now, you have to ask yourself several questions:
1. Do you like the core game, ie. ship combat, economic system? If not, then it's not going to get any better. This is it and how it was always intended to be. If you do, then hopefully the game is simply going to get better as they improve upon it and add new ideas to the game.
2. Do you believe in FLS as a studio to improve upon the game taking it from 'so-so' now to 'great' later? Again, if not, then you simply shouldn't waste your time further. If so, then you'll find that FLS is one of the most communicative development studios out there, staying in contact with the fanbase as much as they can, explaining why or why not things are the way they are.
I'm not asking anyone to like the game. Either they do, or they don't. Arguing about why you do or don't like it is simply futile, as it is all opinion based, with everyone having their own opinion as to what constitutes a 'good' game.
I personally love the ship to ship combat and do feel that the OS is a bit too fast. I think it should take an hour, at least, to sail across the Caribbean in a game, though I can live with the concession as it is now. Avatar combat is rough right now, but is being improved with each build. It's less of a button-mashing contest to more strategic considerations of balance and initiative. In the future, they will be adding player run towns and outposts, as well as possible housing.
I've played my share of on-line games and this one plays better than most of the ones I've played. Sure it has problems with lag in the bigger/starter cities and other minor problems but the overall game mechanics work well in my opinion. I don't know why some people don't like the avatar combat or skill trees , but I'm having a blast so I quess to each his own. I normally destroy the ships sails, grape shot the crew and than board to capture the ship. My only problem with the ground combat is locating the enemy captain amoung his crew, someone give me some glue to anchor his arse to the deck please! Many have complained about the quests being repetative, and to a certain degree that is true, but what on-line game isn't? If you have some ideas how to improve that, why not let the designers know what you want? (and for heavens sake let the designers of Wow, EQ2, etc know too!)
Although the path of character enlightment is fun in my opinion and not so fun for others, the man part of the game really doesn't start until we reach that state...City Conquest! Here the game will either make it or break. If the Nation verus Nation/Pirate conflict isn't fun, than all else is just a minor annoyance. Not many games offer a high end that has as much potential as this game has, certainly WoW or EQ2 don't! Most games peter out after you made the high level, all thats left is high end gear/raids, here the fun just starts when you flesh out! For someone like me who loved DAoC's realm verus realm, it just doesn't get any better than this!
If this games repetative quests and avatar combat doesn't appeal to you, than apparently this game isn't your cup of tea, although I have to wonder which game does those better in your opinion. Well heres hoping you find your dream game somewhere, now I must shove off to get back to my plans of conquesting the nasty Spanards/English dogs while subdueing the wily Pirates! Bon Voyage my friends!
I've been playing COH/COV for the last years as my main game, in-between beta testing other MMOs. The game dates from 2004. So let's see...
- unbearable lag in busy areas? check (try Atlas Park during a Rikti invasion wave for a double treat)
- repeat use of maps? check (I knew all the map patterns by heart after a few months of play, can walk them blindfolded now)
- still has unfinished areas? check. Cathedral of Pain was part of the COV expansion (issue 6) and is supposed to enable full base raids. We're on issue 11 now, and it's still not in game
- still has bugs? check. most notorious are the 'mob stuck in wall' and the persistent detoggling bug upon changing zones (has been around forever)
- still has balancing issues? check. villain/hero pvp is decidedly unbalanced once the epics/patron powers come into play.
And yet, I think COH/COV is a VERY well thought out game, that provides hours of fun if you're into that sort of game. The avatar combat is second to none, and the tailors are a costume fancier's wet dream. And why is it fun? Because it does what it purports to do VERY well.
Pirates of the Burning Sea was even in Closed Beta more bugfree and complete that ANY other game I've beta tested the last two years. It does what IT purports to do (ship combat) extremely well and pretty much bugfree. There are some problems with the Avatar combat (mostly in that it lacks fluidity), BUT IT WORKS. The specials all do what they are supposed to do, there are no skills that go 'oops, sorry, not implemented yet'. Yes, the basic missions can be repetitive, although I personally never minded (used to worse, frankly). We all know that, thanks. I also know, however, that they are CONSTANTLY revamping missions and putting in completely new mission types, a lot of which are truly amazing (my personal favorite still being the one where you 'wake up' after a battle to the ship's surgeon telling you 'sorry about your leg'.
I honestly think that anyone who thinks this game needs more time in beta is out of their minds. As for the people who didn't like it after a week or so of testing: sorry, but there's a good chance this is simply not your cup of tea. The game doesn't even PRETEND it's trying to please everyone. It is what it is, and you will love it or hate it based on that.
Linna
PS: Buegur: Hamstring in Dirty Fighting slows down captains by 30%. Makes player runners hate you. ;-)
OP said this jewel
"(limiting cannon balls is lame)"
So , in essence , OP wants unlimited ammo in a naval ship combat game eh ? Yes , i can see how it would be lame to "limit cannon balls"
While I agree the avatar system is horrifying beyond reason ( it really looks like some shit out of the mid 90's) , the ship combat is fun and worth it to give it a go on the all access pass for a whlie
But wanting unlimited ammo has got to be a joke of a request
Linna
linna and toadkiller just got the classic 3 stooges skull knock that I have been waiting for. YES... basic shot is unlimited (eat it toadkiller and all of you "realism" fans that haven't played the game enough) but it sucks, and the standard shot that everyone wants to use, is not unlimited which is a drag on the game. If it were super-powered, I would be feel differently about it, but it basically is the cannonballs that you see every pirate ship shoot endlessly all the time.
Anyway, this game still is a train wreck, and isn't fun, balanced, deep, or anything. I have seen a lot of very long paragraphs trying to make mountains out of mole hills, like defending the weak avatar combat system, but you shouldn't believe someone who is defending a system that was implemented in one week.
I'm sorry, I wanted to love this game too, but it's just not fun... sid meier's pirates IS fun, other mmo's are also fun... this game is in no way parallel to either. Who knows maybe port royale will make an mmo.
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All i can say is you were looking for a different game and did not find it within this one. I had a great time playing this game as did lots of other people.