I love when posters on this forum advise WoW to "learn from it's mistakes".
Guess what, they aren't making any...which is why their population continues to grow, they continue to sell more boxes than any other MMO, and they're no where approaching their "fall".
I don't like the game, it's not for me, but outlining all the reasons WoW will fail because it's not appealing to you is both short sighted and self centered on a ridiculous level.
Wow says how much subs they sell in total, i can bet that atleast 30% of those subs were done by gold farmers, advertising and same stuff. WoW is a GOLD mine for all gold sellers out there, alot of poeple plays it alot of gold sellers who makes thousands subs per day, and kill em same day.
So i would take those subs 100% trust.
If WoW doing so well, why so many people leaving it?why only 2% of gamers going for end game? Why if you whant go to end game, you actually signing yourself on wow for a second full time job?
They learned a bit in TBC about 40 man raids, they made smaller 25 man, and with 25 man its still impossible for casual player to experience end game.
The only thing why WoW is selling so many copies, couse its has good advertisment, and ITS IS NEWBY FRIENDLY! WoW is like first step for mmorpg newbies. Mine first step was Runescape ( lought if you whant, but its still decent enought game) and then WoW.
When i understood that if i whana progress wow, i need quit job, devorse, close all windows and doors, turn off all phones, have alot of empty bottles, couze you cant go in raid AFK to toilet, couze you will get minus DKP.... it was too late, i spended 2 years playing in there, and what? i cant do anything else! couze i need to raid , but i cant.
WoW will fail, sooner or later, it wount last like EQ i promise.
I had a fair amount of enjoyment from WoW but the "end-game" is where they lost me. Spending hours days and hours days on end for slightly better gear isn't my idea of fun. I liked seeing a couple raid dungeons... think the only ones I saw were Black Rock Spire and Karazhan but I didn't want to do them a million times over. I'll probly pick up the next expansion but once I do all the new non-raid content and fiddle around at 80, I'll probly drop it again.
What I think WoW did right was put some heart into their game and made what they thought would be cool, not to mention establishing themselves with previous popular games.
Who knows when WoW is gonna die, but not anytime soon. If I had to guess? 15-20 years from now?
I had a fair amount of enjoyment from WoW but the "end-game" is where they lost me. Spending hours days and hours days on end for slightly better gear isn't my idea of fun. I liked seeing a couple raid dungeons... think the only ones I saw were Black Rock Spire and Karazhan but I didn't want to do them a million times over. I'll probly pick up the next expansion but once I do all the new non-raid content and fiddle around at 80, I'll probly drop it again.
What I think WoW did right was put some heart into their game and made what they thought would be cool, not to mention establishing themselves with previous popular games.
Who knows when WoW is gonna die, but not anytime soon. If I had to guess? 15-20 years from now?
its funny cause i keep hearing that with the new expansion their focusing all on PVP with open pvp island and destructable buildings and siege warefare, which to me sounds like a contradiction to what the game is. Although im sure most people will like it since its only for end game players for the most part and it'll suck people in to continue think its great, but pvp w/o loss isnt for all.
Also you have to consider that the game and company are picking up speed. More money = more programmers, making more content = more subscribers. It's like microsoft, you can make something to compete with them, but all your getting is not totally squashed. Your not hurting the big guys in the least.
And WoW is no longer gear dependant, at least it is much easier to get good gear now compared to before. If you like to PvP you do what you like and you will earn awesome PvP gear in a month or two. If you like to raid, you will have good gear raiding in a couple months also. It's not difficult, you just have to try.
Also you have to consider that the game and company are picking up speed. More money = more programmers, making more content = more subscribers. It's like microsoft, you can make something to compete with them, but all your getting is not totally squashed. Your not hurting the big guys in the least.
And WoW is no longer gear dependant, at least it is much easier to get good gear now compared to before. If you like to PvP you do what you like and you will earn awesome PvP gear in a month or two. If you like to raid, you will have good gear raiding in a couple months also. It's not difficult, you just have to try.
No one has yet to say to acquire the gear is hard, but it is boring to do the same instances over and over before proceeding to the next one. The real question is how many licks does it take to get to the center of the tootsie pop?
I could have wrote a whole rant about how wrong the OP is but i actually just deleted the whole thing along the way to keep it nice and simple.
WoW won't fall to people's own weird and subjective belief, as yours mr. Topic starter, your claims are nothing but personal experience according to your own opinion, it's easy to see and not a single fine writing sentence can hide that because you aren't a stupid person according to how you tried to put your statements ect.
You are most likely just a typical "burned" WoW player, who played it too much to some degree and this is the product of this. If you were more open minded, then you would have realised this yourself and wouldn't have tried to bash Blizzard in the first way.
Now to some of the tags.
The gearing is one of the parts, which makes people play so much and, as being one of them, love to level up and gear up, nice feeling with upgrading, now this is a very much subjective opinion since i cannot be sure that many others play WoW for that reason too, i do also play it for the lore and history behind it, along with Blizzard themselves.
The only thing that might ever dent WoW, would possibly be another mmo by Blizzard themselves, this ofcourse isn't a fact but most likely going to be the case, since Blizzard somehow was the only company to attract people from other genre to thier certain games of a different sort....
I know many WoW players, whom i do never have believed to become gamers who plays mmorpg, i mean among those are old CS whores ect. WoW is able to gather so many different people who are so entirely new to this kind of gameworld that it will possibly be thier game for many years to come.
Blizzard stand for so much more aswell, quality connection with their gamers ect..... i won't go into detail because i've said the same thing before to another "wow will fall".... Blizzard's games are golden eggs, they are all untouchable in each thier own way.
Time will kill wow b4 another game will. The wow fad will die eventaually. There are many games out there that will take subscriptions away, but not right now.
BC did kill wow for me, but an affair with another wow player and game addiction did it for me.
WOW rocked when i played it.
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Played : WOW, LOTRO, COH/COV, EQ2, SWG, and WAR. Playing EVE Online and AOC. Wtg for SW:TOR and WOD
I could have wrote a whole rant about how wrong the OP is but i actually just deleted the whole thing along the way to keep it nice and simple.
WoW won't fall to people's own weird and subjective belief, as yours mr. Topic starter, your claims are nothing but personal experience according to your own opinion, it's easy to see and not a single fine writing sentence can hide that because you aren't a stupid person according to how you tried to put your statements ect. You are most likely just a typical "burned" WoW player, who played it too much to some degree and this is the product of this. If you were more open minded, then you would have realised this yourself and wouldn't have tried to bash Blizzard in the first way. Now to some of the tags. The gearing is one of the parts, which makes people play so much and, as being one of them, love to level up and gear up, nice feeling with upgrading, now this is a very much subjective opinion since i cannot be sure that many others play WoW for that reason too, i do also play it for the lore and history behind it, along with Blizzard themselves.
The only thing that might ever dent WoW, would possibly be another mmo by Blizzard themselves, this ofcourse isn't a fact but most likely going to be the case, since Blizzard somehow was the only company to attract people from other genre to thier certain games of a different sort.... I know many WoW players, whom i do never have believed to become gamers who plays mmorpg, i mean among those are old CS whores ect. WoW is able to gather so many different people who are so entirely new to this kind of gameworld that it will possibly be thier game for many years to come.
Blizzard stand for so much more aswell, quality connection with their gamers ect..... i won't go into detail because i've said the same thing before to another "wow will fall".... Blizzard's games are golden eggs, they are all untouchable in each thier own way.
I really don't feel burned by WoW, because simple fact is I still play the game myself. I am stating my opinion, with the same respect so are you. I am simply basing my opinion as observations of gaming experience over the last nine years when it comes to the MMO market.
Now when it comes to WoWs success only a few things need to be looked at which accomplished this sucess.
1. Easerier access to worldwide web compared to years ago.
2. A known title which has established lore in which to create a virtiual one.
3. Keeping minmal system requirments low so more players has access to the game.
4. Mass marketing campaign to aquire subscription to those who are unaware of the product.
5. Give the players a sense of accomplishment threw the extent of their gaming experience.
6. A large enough finacial support to produce and market the product correctly.
Now consider the growth in the industry, and the direction in which game companies are aquiring known titles you have to consider the possiblity that these games will eventually knock WoW back a bit. The problems most game companies are having compared to Blizzard is either.
A. The companies are still making the games too high demanding for most computers to run the software.
B. Not enough marketing is going into the product to gather enough subcriptions to futher develop the product past the current stage of the game.
Now mind you there are other factors that need to be applied why these past games didn't have as much success as WoW, but still considering these facts if the formula holds truth sooner than later you will see WoW numbers dwiddle down just because another company will follow threw, and the pace of current technology is greater at this point then at the time of WoWs release.
I could have wrote a whole rant about how wrong the OP is but i actually just deleted the whole thing along the way to keep it nice and simple.
WoW won't fall to people's own weird and subjective belief, as yours mr. Topic starter, your claims are nothing but personal experience according to your own opinion, it's easy to see and not a single fine writing sentence can hide that because you aren't a stupid person according to how you tried to put your statements ect. You are most likely just a typical "burned" WoW player, who played it too much to some degree and this is the product of this. If you were more open minded, then you would have realised this yourself and wouldn't have tried to bash Blizzard in the first way. Now to some of the tags. The gearing is one of the parts, which makes people play so much and, as being one of them, love to level up and gear up, nice feeling with upgrading, now this is a very much subjective opinion since i cannot be sure that many others play WoW for that reason too, i do also play it for the lore and history behind it, along with Blizzard themselves.
The only thing that might ever dent WoW, would possibly be another mmo by Blizzard themselves, this ofcourse isn't a fact but most likely going to be the case, since Blizzard somehow was the only company to attract people from other genre to thier certain games of a different sort.... I know many WoW players, whom i do never have believed to become gamers who plays mmorpg, i mean among those are old CS whores ect. WoW is able to gather so many different people who are so entirely new to this kind of gameworld that it will possibly be thier game for many years to come.
Blizzard stand for so much more aswell, quality connection with their gamers ect..... i won't go into detail because i've said the same thing before to another "wow will fall".... Blizzard's games are golden eggs, they are all untouchable in each thier own way.
I really don't feel burned by WoW, because simple fact is I still play the game myself. I am stating my opinion, with the same respect so are you. I am simply basing my opinion as observations of gaming experience over the last nine years when it comes to the MMO market.
Now when it comes to WoWs success only a few things need to be looked at which accomplished this sucess.
1. Easerier access to worldwide web compared to years ago.
2. A known title which has established lore in which to create a virtiual one.
3. Keeping minmal system requirments low so more players has access to the game.
4. Mass marketing campaign to aquire subscription to those who are unaware of the product.
5. Give the players a sense of accomplishment threw the extent of their gaming experience.
6. A large enough finacial support to produce and market the product correctly.
Now consider the growth in the industry, and the direction in which game companies are aquiring known titles you have to consider the possiblity that these games will eventually knock WoW back a bit. The problems most game companies are having compared to Blizzard is either.
A. The companies are still making the games too high demanding for most computers to run the software.
B. Not enough marketing is going into the product to gather enough subcriptions to futher develop the product past the current stage of the game.
Now mind you there are other factors that need to be applied why these past games didn't have as much success as WoW, but still considering these facts if the formula holds truth sooner than later you will see WoW numbers dwiddle down just because another company will follow threw, and the pace of current technology is greater at this point then at the time of WoWs release.
I think what most of you fail to realize that besides that fact that WoW is a decent game it has a lot more penetration in to other MMO markets than just the U.S. market than other typical MMOs.
Eventually WoW is going to get boring. With only addition to the game being more of the same old thing people will get tired of it eventually. Of the original 35 players I joined with when WoW released only 4 of them still play. Of those 4 two actually are looking at other MMOs but go back to WoW after a few months.
Which means people are looking.
It boils down to the fact that a lot of MMOs are modeling themselves after WoW and older MMOs are adopting some of WoWs features.
IMO WoW isn't popular because of its featureset its popular because of good marketing.
I've played a lot of MMOs.
When a play WoW the grind feels like the grind on Korean MMOs. When Korean's play it they are probably attracted to the fact that WoW has more than one set of items for a given level range.
I think WoW will die of old age rather than some other MMO soaking up its subs.
I came back to WoW after 2 Years, boy is WoW greater then ever before, there is no game which even can touch WoW. Forget AoC, War or others: Wrath of the Lich King will crush them und bring Blizz another big boost of new and old new Subs...WoW in 6 Years? 20-30 mio Subs (not 2-3)...
Eventually WoW is going to get boring. With only addition to the game being more of the same old thing people will get tired of it eventually. Of the original 35 players I joined with when WoW released only 4 of them still play.
I believe this is the type of reasoning that many people use to predict the downfall of WoW, but I think the logic is flawed. What you're not taking into consideration is that although a large number of people have left the game and continue to leave the game, an even larger number of people have since joined it. The subscription numbers are still growing. I too know a bunch of people that started the game 3 years ago and have quit. However I also know several players who just recently started playing and they love the game. Yes, of course the game gets boring eventually. But just as it becomes boring for 1 person, another person has just started playing. That trend has continued for 3 straight years going on 4. Certainly that trend will not continue forever, but to think that it's going to completely reverse itself and to believe that suddenly the subscription numbers will start falling dramatically are unrealistic. Even if the subscription numbers were to start falling as quickly as they have risen, it would take 3 years for WoW to lose it's customer base. Think about that for a second. Most of the people who are going to play Conan or War have ALREADY left WoW. Sure a few will leave WoW for those other games, maybe even a fairly significant number, but it's not gonna be half the player base because a large number of those people are still enjoying WoW and they have no reason to switch. And even the ones that are bored with WoW ans switch to Conan or War, to assume they are going to think that Conan or War are great games is assuming a lot. They may play Conan or War for a couple months and realize that they simply like WoW better and switch back. They'll have had a couple months away from WoW and will come back and not be bored. How many times have you seen people on this forum alone say they are starting to play again after having taken a break and are enjoying it again. So even after people have gotten bored with WoW and quit, many of them return after a while.
So just because it get's boring eventually is no reason to predict it's downfall. When it's subscription numbers start to fall, then come and start to predict the future. Until that time, predicting the end is really not based on reality, it's based on assumptions that fly in the face of reality.
Just because one sees players quitting, doesn't mean that the game won't attract new players. The problem is that some people (and this is quite scary) seem these games as being more than games. It's ok that it "ends" for people. It doesn't have to be a life choice where you spend years and years of your life. You play until you've gotten what you desired and you move on.
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All of the mmorpgs we know right now will fall, is just a matter of time. How long will it last, we dont know, but sooner or later it will close it last server, like any other mmorpg. It's kinda silly ask if a game will fall, sure it will fall, like all in life, nothing is forever, sad, but true.
In today MMO market it would seem that Blizzards World of Warcraft is untouchable when it comes to subscriptions, and profit. This being said in my honest opinion it’s not one specific game that will be the fall of this gladiator of games, but many new games coming out in the near future that will spell defeat for WoW. Now World of Warcraft was launched in 2004, and predicted to s than accurate considering the upcoming titles expected to release within the next two years. The real question is why will these games combined do better than WoW, and how? Well I will explain....etc
Let's put this plain and simple: WoW will not fall so easily, because it has too many addicts(nerds)and it became somewhat of a online RPG religion that became a success and profit. So why is it so big...Because it is made for addicts who need pay to play, and can't stop...I can enjoy the game...But I will NEVER pay month to month, Wow become a machine that drains money, and it is not funny to me anymore...,and there you go this is my opinion. I prefer to own a game,than to be linked to it, even though I enjoy playing lots of MMORPG's.
I play WoW now and will play AoC when it comes out. I will most likely try WAR too. Also I will without a doubt try Aion. All of this while still playing WoW. WoW subs wont go anywhere really no matter how the new games do in numbers. Its too polished and too easy to fall back on to unsub, and most likely if you do youll just resub 2 or 3 months later.
These threads are just too many on mmorpg imo. Whos to say 3 or 4 great games cant coexist and all have massive player bases ie. EQ/DaoC/AC 2000-2003ish if im not mistaken. No ones gonna bring WoW to its knees I promise you that. Thats not to say new games wont be as good if not better. I cant say because they havent launched yet. I can tell you that WoW has 4 years of polish and one good expansion head start on the new titles. Some need fresh. Some crave change. I'll take both.
At 10 million plus subs last I heard and regular commercial exposure I can promise you WoW isnt going anywhere for a while.
I don't see any serious competition to WoW for at least a couple of years. If such a competitor does emerge, I suspect it will be in console space, not in PC space. WAR looks great, but not everyone that plays WoW is looking for better PvP. I don't think it will have any real impact on WoW subs.
I don't want to write this, and you don't want to read it. But now it's too late for both of us.
Ok so some have said that this thread is a joke, but I have decided to yet again give more reasons that maybe the reign of WoW might be coming to an end in the near future. First lets look at the titles and the pop culture history that supports the posibilties.
Strek Trek online
Do I have to say anymore? The longest running science fiction story line that has lasted decades. There is so much lore here it will keep this game busy for years. The graphics so far are top notch, but I fear because of the high quality of the design many might not be able to access the game from a standard pc rig. Never the less any hardcore star trek fan is going to try this game.
Warhammer Online
Where do you think Warcraft came from? It was inspired by the table top version of this one. To think that a game that is focused on PvP, and had something to do with Warcrafts birth won't do well is somewhat denial. Now Warhammer has managed to keep a lower system requirement compared to other games, however depending how they implement the PvE this title might have it's ups and downs. This won't be a WoW killer, but it will attract some of PvPers who are aware of Warhammer history, and the old DAOC players now playing WoW just because Mythic was the developers.
Marvel Universe
Needs no introductions. Any fan of Marvel is going to at least try this game, and with all of the movies that Marvel has been releasing in the past years (with no signs of stopping) this game will be a huge success.
Age of Conan
A game that will have the fans craving for blood, with a long history of novels, and movies this game is also being made avaible for console play.Being cross platformed this game will do well. The games rating however will limit the access the younger audience will have to play. So even though you won't see as many kids playing this title compared to WoW this game will recieve a nice portion of target audience who want to seperate themselves from the younger crowd.
Stargate Worlds
One of the most successful TV shows is being made into an online game? Someone pinch me! A very indepth story line, best graphics I have seen from any MMO if you got the rig you will try this game without a doubt. The one problem I see with this game not doing as well as WoW is once again going to be system requirements, but if this product is marketed correctly it will give players a reason to want to update their systems.
Now I really wonder why these game companies have picked up titles that people are familiar with? Could it be that their target is WoW? More known titles are being picked up for development than before, and it's all because it is easier to market a product players have heard from growing up watching or reading, or even playing. The fact also that all of these titles are expected to launch in the next two years must be just luck huh? Doubt that very much! Only time will tell, and heh if WoWs numbers don't fall because of all of these factors I will be the first one to say I was wrong.
But if you keep making MMO's, eventually a new one will come and steal away WoW's market share.
So yes, list every up and coming MMO you can think of and sooner or later WoW's replacement will end up being one of them.
I'll tell you right now, it won't be any game this year.
People have a lot of time invested in WoW currently and there is an expansion pack due.
People aren't going to leave WoW for another game. they are going to leave WoW because they don't like it anymore. And quite proibably they will give up online gaming at the same time.
In order to beat WoW, new games will have to bring an entriely new audience of their own to the table. You won't get to poach most of the existing customers of a rival game unless you let them bring their high level characters with them.
Marvel has been cancelled, so has Star Trek, But if you keep making MMO's, eventually a new one will come and steal away WoW's market share. So yes, list every up and coming MMO you can think of and sooner or later WoW's replacement will end up being one of them.
I'll tell you right now, it won't be any game this year.
People have a lot of time invested in WoW currently and there is an expansion pack due. People aren't going to leave WoW for another game. they are going to leave WoW because they don't like it anymore. And quite proibably they will give up online gaming at the same time.
In order to beat WoW, new games will have to bring an entriely new audience of their own to the table. You won't get to poach most of the existing customers of a rival game unless you let them bring their high level characters with them.
Indeed Marvel Unvierse is cancelled atm, however I wouldn't say that cryptic is given up just yet. Just because Microsoft has pulled out mean that this game won't pick up production if another party is intrested in finiancing this game.
STO has yet to be confrimed that it has been canceled, even though prepetual games did cancel G&H rome rising. These are still rumors, but they are just that at this moment.
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So i would take those subs 100% trust.
If WoW doing so well, why so many people leaving it?why only 2% of gamers going for end game? Why if you whant go to end game, you actually signing yourself on wow for a second full time job?
They learned a bit in TBC about 40 man raids, they made smaller 25 man, and with 25 man its still impossible for casual player to experience end game.
The only thing why WoW is selling so many copies, couse its has good advertisment, and ITS IS NEWBY FRIENDLY! WoW is like first step for mmorpg newbies. Mine first step was Runescape ( lought if you whant, but its still decent enought game) and then WoW.
When i understood that if i whana progress wow, i need quit job, devorse, close all windows and doors, turn off all phones, have alot of empty bottles, couze you cant go in raid AFK to toilet, couze you will get minus DKP.... it was too late, i spended 2 years playing in there, and what? i cant do anything else! couze i need to raid , but i cant.
WoW will fail, sooner or later, it wount last like EQ i promise.
I had a fair amount of enjoyment from WoW but the "end-game" is where they lost me. Spending hours days and hours days on end for slightly better gear isn't my idea of fun. I liked seeing a couple raid dungeons... think the only ones I saw were Black Rock Spire and Karazhan but I didn't want to do them a million times over. I'll probly pick up the next expansion but once I do all the new non-raid content and fiddle around at 80, I'll probly drop it again.
What I think WoW did right was put some heart into their game and made what they thought would be cool, not to mention establishing themselves with previous popular games.
Who knows when WoW is gonna die, but not anytime soon. If I had to guess? 15-20 years from now?
its funny cause i keep hearing that with the new expansion their focusing all on PVP with open pvp island and destructable buildings and siege warefare, which to me sounds like a contradiction to what the game is. Although im sure most people will like it since its only for end game players for the most part and it'll suck people in to continue think its great, but pvp w/o loss isnt for all.
Also you have to consider that the game and company are picking up speed. More money = more programmers, making more content = more subscribers. It's like microsoft, you can make something to compete with them, but all your getting is not totally squashed. Your not hurting the big guys in the least.
And WoW is no longer gear dependant, at least it is much easier to get good gear now compared to before. If you like to PvP you do what you like and you will earn awesome PvP gear in a month or two. If you like to raid, you will have good gear raiding in a couple months also. It's not difficult, you just have to try.
No one has yet to say to acquire the gear is hard, but it is boring to do the same instances over and over before proceeding to the next one. The real question is how many licks does it take to get to the center of the tootsie pop?
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I could have wrote a whole rant about how wrong the OP is but i actually just deleted the whole thing along the way to keep it nice and simple.
WoW won't fall to people's own weird and subjective belief, as yours mr. Topic starter, your claims are nothing but personal experience according to your own opinion, it's easy to see and not a single fine writing sentence can hide that because you aren't a stupid person according to how you tried to put your statements ect.
You are most likely just a typical "burned" WoW player, who played it too much to some degree and this is the product of this. If you were more open minded, then you would have realised this yourself and wouldn't have tried to bash Blizzard in the first way.
Now to some of the tags.
The gearing is one of the parts, which makes people play so much and, as being one of them, love to level up and gear up, nice feeling with upgrading, now this is a very much subjective opinion since i cannot be sure that many others play WoW for that reason too, i do also play it for the lore and history behind it, along with Blizzard themselves.
The only thing that might ever dent WoW, would possibly be another mmo by Blizzard themselves, this ofcourse isn't a fact but most likely going to be the case, since Blizzard somehow was the only company to attract people from other genre to thier certain games of a different sort....
I know many WoW players, whom i do never have believed to become gamers who plays mmorpg, i mean among those are old CS whores ect. WoW is able to gather so many different people who are so entirely new to this kind of gameworld that it will possibly be thier game for many years to come.
Blizzard stand for so much more aswell, quality connection with their gamers ect..... i won't go into detail because i've said the same thing before to another "wow will fall".... Blizzard's games are golden eggs, they are all untouchable in each thier own way.
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Time will kill wow b4 another game will. The wow fad will die eventaually. There are many games out there that will take subscriptions away, but not right now.
BC did kill wow for me, but an affair with another wow player and game addiction did it for me.
WOW rocked when i played it.
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Played : WOW, LOTRO, COH/COV, EQ2, SWG, and WAR.
Playing EVE Online and AOC.
Wtg for SW:TOR and WOD
Now when it comes to WoWs success only a few things need to be looked at which accomplished this sucess.
1. Easerier access to worldwide web compared to years ago.
2. A known title which has established lore in which to create a virtiual one.
3. Keeping minmal system requirments low so more players has access to the game.
4. Mass marketing campaign to aquire subscription to those who are unaware of the product.
5. Give the players a sense of accomplishment threw the extent of their gaming experience.
6. A large enough finacial support to produce and market the product correctly.
Now consider the growth in the industry, and the direction in which game companies are aquiring known titles you have to consider the possiblity that these games will eventually knock WoW back a bit. The problems most game companies are having compared to Blizzard is either.
A. The companies are still making the games too high demanding for most computers to run the software.
B. Not enough marketing is going into the product to gather enough subcriptions to futher develop the product past the current stage of the game.
Now mind you there are other factors that need to be applied why these past games didn't have as much success as WoW, but still considering these facts if the formula holds truth sooner than later you will see WoW numbers dwiddle down just because another company will follow threw, and the pace of current technology is greater at this point then at the time of WoWs release.
Now when it comes to WoWs success only a few things need to be looked at which accomplished this sucess.
1. Easerier access to worldwide web compared to years ago.
2. A known title which has established lore in which to create a virtiual one.
3. Keeping minmal system requirments low so more players has access to the game.
4. Mass marketing campaign to aquire subscription to those who are unaware of the product.
5. Give the players a sense of accomplishment threw the extent of their gaming experience.
6. A large enough finacial support to produce and market the product correctly.
Now consider the growth in the industry, and the direction in which game companies are aquiring known titles you have to consider the possiblity that these games will eventually knock WoW back a bit. The problems most game companies are having compared to Blizzard is either.
A. The companies are still making the games too high demanding for most computers to run the software.
B. Not enough marketing is going into the product to gather enough subcriptions to futher develop the product past the current stage of the game.
Now mind you there are other factors that need to be applied why these past games didn't have as much success as WoW, but still considering these facts if the formula holds truth sooner than later you will see WoW numbers dwiddle down just because another company will follow threw, and the pace of current technology is greater at this point then at the time of WoWs release.
You forgot..
C. They are not fun to play
I think what most of you fail to realize that besides that fact that WoW is a decent game it has a lot more penetration in to other MMO markets than just the U.S. market than other typical MMOs.
Eventually WoW is going to get boring. With only addition to the game being more of the same old thing people will get tired of it eventually. Of the original 35 players I joined with when WoW released only 4 of them still play. Of those 4 two actually are looking at other MMOs but go back to WoW after a few months.
Which means people are looking.
It boils down to the fact that a lot of MMOs are modeling themselves after WoW and older MMOs are adopting some of WoWs features.
IMO WoW isn't popular because of its featureset its popular because of good marketing.
I've played a lot of MMOs.
When a play WoW the grind feels like the grind on Korean MMOs. When Korean's play it they are probably attracted to the fact that WoW has more than one set of items for a given level range.
I think WoW will die of old age rather than some other MMO soaking up its subs.
I came back to WoW after 2 Years, boy is WoW greater then ever before, there is no game which even can touch WoW. Forget AoC, War or others: Wrath of the Lich King will crush them und bring Blizz another big boost of new and old new Subs...WoW in 6 Years? 20-30 mio Subs (not 2-3)...
So just because it get's boring eventually is no reason to predict it's downfall. When it's subscription numbers start to fall, then come and start to predict the future. Until that time, predicting the end is really not based on reality, it's based on assumptions that fly in the face of reality.
What Pappy13 said.
Agreed.
Just because one sees players quitting, doesn't mean that the game won't attract new players. The problem is that some people (and this is quite scary) seem these games as being more than games. It's ok that it "ends" for people. It doesn't have to be a life choice where you spend years and years of your life. You play until you've gotten what you desired and you move on.
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All of the mmorpgs we know right now will fall, is just a matter of time. How long will it last, we dont know, but sooner or later it will close it last server, like any other mmorpg. It's kinda silly ask if a game will fall, sure it will fall, like all in life, nothing is forever, sad, but true.
Release Spirit
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Let's put this plain and simple: WoW will not fall so easily, because it has too many addicts(nerds
)and it became somewhat of a online RPG religion that became a success and profit. So why is it so big...Because it is made for addicts who need pay to play, and can't stop...I can enjoy the game...But I will NEVER pay month to month, Wow become a machine that drains money, and it is not funny to me anymore...
,and there you go this is my opinion. I prefer to own a game,than to be linked to it, even though I enjoy playing lots of MMORPG's.
Andr
Every time we near a new launch of game we get these threads. I think the last time was right before Vanguard. And look where we are today.
I play WoW now and will play AoC when it comes out. I will most likely try WAR too. Also I will without a doubt try Aion. All of this while still playing WoW. WoW subs wont go anywhere really no matter how the new games do in numbers. Its too polished and too easy to fall back on to unsub, and most likely if you do youll just resub 2 or 3 months later.
These threads are just too many on mmorpg imo. Whos to say 3 or 4 great games cant coexist and all have massive player bases ie. EQ/DaoC/AC 2000-2003ish if im not mistaken. No ones gonna bring WoW to its knees I promise you that. Thats not to say new games wont be as good if not better. I cant say because they havent launched yet. I can tell you that WoW has 4 years of polish and one good expansion head start on the new titles. Some need fresh. Some crave change. I'll take both.
At 10 million plus subs last I heard and regular commercial exposure I can promise you WoW isnt going anywhere for a while.
Quite frankly the game eats children.
I don't see any serious competition to WoW for at least a couple of years. If such a competitor does emerge, I suspect it will be in console space, not in PC space. WAR looks great, but not everyone that plays WoW is looking for better PvP. I don't think it will have any real impact on WoW subs.
I don't want to write this, and you don't want to read it. But now it's too late for both of us.
Ok so some have said that this thread is a joke, but I have decided to yet again give more reasons that maybe the reign of WoW might be coming to an end in the near future. First lets look at the titles and the pop culture history that supports the posibilties.
Strek Trek online
Do I have to say anymore? The longest running science fiction story line that has lasted decades. There is so much lore here it will keep this game busy for years. The graphics so far are top notch, but I fear because of the high quality of the design many might not be able to access the game from a standard pc rig. Never the less any hardcore star trek fan is going to try this game.
Warhammer Online
Where do you think Warcraft came from? It was inspired by the table top version of this one. To think that a game that is focused on PvP, and had something to do with Warcrafts birth won't do well is somewhat denial. Now Warhammer has managed to keep a lower system requirement compared to other games, however depending how they implement the PvE this title might have it's ups and downs. This won't be a WoW killer, but it will attract some of PvPers who are aware of Warhammer history, and the old DAOC players now playing WoW just because Mythic was the developers.
Marvel Universe
Needs no introductions. Any fan of Marvel is going to at least try this game, and with all of the movies that Marvel has been releasing in the past years (with no signs of stopping) this game will be a huge success.
Age of Conan
A game that will have the fans craving for blood, with a long history of novels, and movies this game is also being made avaible for console play.Being cross platformed this game will do well. The games rating however will limit the access the younger audience will have to play. So even though you won't see as many kids playing this title compared to WoW this game will recieve a nice portion of target audience who want to seperate themselves from the younger crowd.
Stargate Worlds
One of the most successful TV shows is being made into an online game? Someone pinch me! A very indepth story line, best graphics I have seen from any MMO if you got the rig you will try this game without a doubt. The one problem I see with this game not doing as well as WoW is once again going to be system requirements, but if this product is marketed correctly it will give players a reason to want to update their systems.
Now I really wonder why these game companies have picked up titles that people are familiar with? Could it be that their target is WoW? More known titles are being picked up for development than before, and it's all because it is easier to market a product players have heard from growing up watching or reading, or even playing. The fact also that all of these titles are expected to launch in the next two years must be just luck huh? Doubt that very much! Only time will tell, and heh if WoWs numbers don't fall because of all of these factors I will be the first one to say I was wrong.
Marvel has been cancelled, so has Star Trek,
But if you keep making MMO's, eventually a new one will come and steal away WoW's market share.
So yes, list every up and coming MMO you can think of and sooner or later WoW's replacement will end up being one of them.
I'll tell you right now, it won't be any game this year.
People have a lot of time invested in WoW currently and there is an expansion pack due.
People aren't going to leave WoW for another game. they are going to leave WoW because they don't like it anymore. And quite proibably they will give up online gaming at the same time.
In order to beat WoW, new games will have to bring an entriely new audience of their own to the table. You won't get to poach most of the existing customers of a rival game unless you let them bring their high level characters with them.
Indeed Marvel Unvierse is cancelled atm, however I wouldn't say that cryptic is given up just yet. Just because Microsoft has pulled out mean that this game won't pick up production if another party is intrested in finiancing this game.
STO has yet to be confrimed that it has been canceled, even though prepetual games did cancel G&H rome rising. These are still rumors, but they are just that at this moment.
If Microsoft has pulled out of financing it, then it isn't worth releasing. They aren't exactly known for their high standards.
Publishers don't pull out of mega hit games.