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omgz i need a $2000 rig to play this game !!
kazson
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im just so tired of hearing people say this once they see a video or a screenshot of AOC, these people see Nvidia release a $600 video card and ASSUME you HAVE to have that card to run anything
i blame Crysis personally as that game is coded like crap and my proof is games like COD4 and UT3 that run 60+ fps on a WIDE range of PC's without even a hiccup, but NOBODY ever talks about those games and how well they run...just Crysis and how BAD it runs...sigh...but im getting off subject 
on a 19 inch flat panel this PC will run all current games with HIGH or better settings except for Crysis 
and no offense if you cant afford what i speced below you arent truly a PC gamer...nothing wrong with that, its not for everyone.. but PC gaming is just more expensive but its NOT as bad as people always claim
total price $531.92 + shipping
prices from newegg.com
2 gigs of memory $36.99
9600 GT $154.99 (its scary how close this card performs to my 8800GTS i bought for $380)
2.2 ghz duo core 2 processor $119
LGA 775 motherboard $32.99
575w power suppy $24.99 (i would acutally spend more for this but if you want low price)
120g harddrive $44.99 (go as high as you can afford if you want)
asus DVD drive $11.99
Raidmax ATX case $19.98
Windows XP system builders Disc $85.99
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True, but i shouold choose a better PSU and 2x 9600 in SLI.
Two things
1. You assume that everyone can build their own PC, sorry to tell you this but this is not the case. I have had to work on peoples computers that play games that have no clue about how to do anything other than play games on their computer.
2. You forgot to add the price for an OS
One bad ass lookin' Alienware computer: $2500
One 19-21in monitor: $200-$400
A nice pair of gaming headphones: $100+
Finding out you can get the exact same specced system for $1000 dollars on newegg.com
Priceless
Greetings,
Gaming is a hobby and needs funds like any hobby. In fact, computer gaming is one of the cheapest hobbies around.
First off most people will need a computer anyway, if you dont have a computer you are lost.
Just add 1000$ to most any decent system and you will have a roaring computer.
People in this thread have correctly indicated that you can get a gaming computer for 1000$, esp if you build it yourself.
Golf, Scuba, any form of car hobby, etc. All of these hobbies will cost you significantly more, enjoy.
Yours in Elite Computing Plasma,
Star*Dagger
I just bought this rig for 580 euro total:
Amd64: 5600+ x2
MSI Radeon HD3850 512mb
2gb DDR2 800mhz
AM2 motherboard
250gb Western Digital HDD
Enermax Liberty 500Watt
Alienware look-alike case for only 70 euro with 4 air cooling vent's
I play Crysis on high 4x AA and having 60-70 FPS (i actually got shocked that i ran so good on my rig) The resolution is 1280x1024 though since my monitor is capped at that
so will see how AoC will do on my rig
@ OP: the processor is not powerful enough, and the one (i assume) u listed aint a great processor, the clock speed says so little, same with the RAM which has so many different performance lvls, and yes u forgot the OS, when u pick vista u need more RAM too
and thats only the case without mouse/keyboard/monitor/sound system
but even then u dont need a rig that near 1000 bucks, see previous post
MMOs currently playing: -
About to play: Lord of the Rings Online
Played: Anarchy Online (alltime favorite) and lots of f2p titles (honorable mentions: 9Dragons, Martial Heroes, Dekaron, Atlantica Online)
yea....im running on a oc version of 6800 xt with about 1.5g of ram and 2.8ghz.....but this is the one game i dont mind upgrading my pc for....by upgrade i mean throw this peice oh shit out the window and buy a brand new rig lol...
I agree that you really can put together a solid gaming PC with little cash spent if you do your homework. And if you don't know how to do your homework, ask. People who know how to put a PC together are abundant in the online gaming world and usually willing to help.
My only disagreement, please spend more and get a quality PSU to save yourself grief. It really is the most important piece of any system and the most often overlooked part. At the very least pick up this Thermaltake W0100RU 500W PSU. It's about 50 bucks all said and done, and I would consider that the minimum of what you should spend for a PSU.
Same story told over and over: Friend says his friend of a friend is a pc building wiz and all he has to do is buy the parts saving big $$. I tell friend he should save himself the headache and time and buy one built with warrently on the complete system. Friend says, "but all the parts are under warrenty." I say, "Don't". Friend doesn't listen. Friend of a friend throws the pc together like he just don't care. OS doesn't work. Friend of friend says, "Well here's your pc". Friend cries. Friend brings his pc to me. I spend all day with him getting OS to work. Thanks friend. Friend is happy. Three weeks later PC doesn't work. I say "F you". Friend takes it to Joe Shmoes PC shop. Friend needs new power supply. Friend spends another $70 and can't game for several days. I ask "Well what about the warrenty?". Friend says he doesn't want to wait that much longer to game. I say nothing.
Unless you just want a pc building project and don't care about time or are experienced building just "don't". A decent dell (outlet) or alienware isn't that bad. We balk at those prices and mac users can't believe it. Maybe newegg is good middle ground. Not sure.
And i agree not everyone can build a PC, but i figure those people are better off learning or getting a friend to help them instead of crying on messages boards about how expensive it is to play PC games
this is what i would call a horror story, sure it could happen but it could also happen to any PC you get from any company, but i agree having a warranty for the whole PC from one company makes horror stories like this less of a hassle
I myself find that buying a new pc about every 4 years keeps me goin in most games. I think for just about anything to do with pcs the technology changes enouph every 4 years to make it worth while. If you are a pc gamer, this is one of the costs you accept. If you are not a PC gamer...then you have no reason to complain that you need a new pc to run this game.
The wife of a buddy of mine had her parents buy her a new computer for her college gift. He was like "Well, they said its great for gaming over the phone!". Two weeks later, it arrives and the following happens:
-"The hell, theres so much trial crap on here!!" <===He spends 4hours removing all the add crap Dell put on the comp.
-"Whys it so slow?!" <===1gig of ddr2 in a Vista computer
-"America's Army won't run!" <===Built in video card, Dell also did not have the proper video card software installed.
-"Grrrrrr" <====He ends up wiping the comp's partition to clear all the crap off the comp that dell put on it.
-"This thing can't even play Cod4 on lowest settings!!!! %%##%$#@!@#!" <====He ends up spending $350+ on a new video card and 2gigs of more ram. (vista uses 700-756mb of ram by itself)
In the end, my bud ends up spending $350 on a computer that was a gift for his wife from her parents. Not to mention countless hours troubleshooting. The computer alone cost her parents $1,199. So, essentially a $1,549 computer could have been built EXACTLY from newegg.com for only $600, and would have been working perfectly within 2hours.
To those of you crying about "experience" about building computers. One day I just decided "I want to make my own", and researched on google and asked around. It didn't take me more than a month to learn how to do it myself.
Therefore, to help people who WANT to learn how to build their own and know what they can do with computers, I'll be making a VERY noob friendly builder's guide WITH pictures soon on a free forum site and then I'll link it here. Expect it in a couple days, or when I find some time to put i together
-Faded
The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity:
Having a different opinion must mean you're a troll.
For someone who knows how to build a PC, Vista is the way to go. If you know how to build it, you know how to troubleshoot. I have Vista 64 running flawlessly. The only reason people have so many horror stories is because they are what I consider, a 'horror story' as a PC owner.
The bottom line here is that you are going to have to spend around $1000 to run AoC and any game that has similar graphics. If you ran on Vista, you'd already be spending at least $50 more. Then, you'd probably need another 2gigs of memory, costing you another $40. While that processor is weak, it would work. Though, getting a 2.66 or 2.8 would cost another $70. Sure, you could get an outdated motherboard for $30, but why would you want to build a 'gaming' machine with a horrible motherboard? You could spend $50 more and get a much better one and save yourself the headache of either having to replace it within a year, replacing another burnt out piece of hardware, or simply never being able to upgrade because of how crappy it is. I would suggest nothing less than a 700W PSU, you have enough power to upgrade in the future, and for another $30, you might as well. Hard drives are cheap, and you don't need much room if you're using it to game only, I'd just suggest getting a reputable HD. Such as a Seagate or Western Digital. $12 for a DvD rom? Please, if you want the slowest Rom drive ever, splurge and buy a normal $30 one, jeez. Now on to your case, sure, nice case. Nice case if I want to overheat everything that I just bought and make it last a few less years. Some people don't realize how important a well ventilated case is. Imagine a $40 case, it runs your CPU at 42C, GPU at 55C and your overall at 45C. Now imagine a $150-200 case keeping your CPU at 29C, GPU at 43C, and your overall at 35C. You've effectively given some of your most vital components an extra year or more of life. Now, not every 'gamer' has overclocking knowledge. However, imagine that you could increase your overall system performance by 30% because of overclocking, all made possible by a sufficient case.
So, if you add about 300-400 from what I've gone over, you're lingering very close to 1000. I will admit that the 9600GT is an excellent choice for someone who doesn't have a lot of money. At $170, it's probably going to play most games for you pretty well. I myself, who considers himself a gamer, has spent over $3000 for a new PC. My old one was 6 years old. Now, you can say that not everyone has that kind of money. Well, here's what I say to you.. I make less than $10/hour at a horrible production company, I also live on my own and pay all my bills, food, gas, cat, etc. It's taken me literally six months to save this money, but If I can do it, there's no reason why others can't.
By the way, nowadays.. 1280x1024 is considered pretty poor when it comes to gaming. I'll end this by saying that most games are very scalable. It all comes down to whether or not you want to run the game at full settings at 1600x1200 or higher, or if you're content with spending $600 and playing the top games and future games at medium to high settings without all the bells as whistles.
I'm thinking of getting http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102730
and 2g of ram..is that enough to run Age of Conan?
I'm sorry, but as a system builder myself, I laugh and cry at people who buy from comp companies.The wife of a buddy of mine had her parents buy her a new computer for her college gift. He was like "Well, they said its great for gaming over the phone!". Two weeks later, it arrives and the following happens:
-"The hell, theres so much trial crap on here!!" <===He spends 4hours removing all the add crap Dell put on the comp.
-"Whys it so slow?!" <===1gig of ddr2 in a Vista computer
-"America's Army won't run!" <===Built in video card, Dell also did not have the proper video card software installed.
-"Grrrrrr" <====He ends up wiping the comp's partition to clear all the crap off the comp that dell put on it.
-"This thing can't even play Cod4 on lowest settings!!!! %%##%$#@!@#!" <====He ends up spending $350+ on a new video card and 2gigs of more ram. (vista uses 700-756mb of ram by itself)
In the end, my bud ends up spending $350 on a computer that was a gift for his wife from her parents. Not to mention countless hours troubleshooting. The computer alone cost her parents $1,199. So, essentially a $1,549 computer could have been built EXACTLY from newegg.com for only $600, and would have been working perfectly within 2hours.
To those of you crying about "experience" about building computers. One day I just decided "I want to make my own", and researched on google and asked around. It didn't take me more than a month to learn how to do it myself.
Therefore, to help people who WANT to learn how to build their own and know what they can do with computers, I'll be making a VERY noob friendly builder's guide WITH pictures soon on a free forum site and then I'll link it here. Expect it in a couple days, or when I find some time to put i together
-Faded
It sounds like your friend didn't even have a rudimentary knowledge of pc hardware and gaming to order what he did from dell. Vista? lol. Anyone who just takes someone's word for whether a pc is a good gamer deserves what they get. Dell's ok but, yeah, I wouldn't trust the sales people. You don't need to talk to them.
Four hours to go down the program uninstall list? Please tell me you're exaggerating.
Like I said, you may have a point with newegg. As far as building goes I really don't want to spend a month learning to build anything I can easily buy from people who haven't just spent a month training. Besides, you still have the potential of hassling with bad parts or incompatable parts or your own mistakes.
At least check dell outlet or new egg, whatever, before plunging into a build project if all you really want is a hassle free product.
hehe....i didnt really have anything to worry about
2gigs will be enough for XP.
No good deed goes unpunished.
If you help someone build a PC, then you will probably be 'tech support' for life. Unless... you really teach them what they are doing during the process.
I have several younger siblings... none of them have home-built systems for a reason.
Because I want to spend my time on MY homebuilt system gaming.... not supporing them on theirs.
It's not that building a system is hard these days, it's easier now than it ever has been. Try building one without a plug and play OS (write your own autoexec.bat & config.sys files), no USB, no CD-writers, no online driver/documentation resources, etc.,.. We have all these resources today, but most folks still believe in all the 'smoke and mirrors' of PC building. Because of that, they shy away from even trying to learn how to build/support their own systems.. That's why it's easier for me to tell someone to buy one rather than build one.
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If you are gonna build one:
If you buy cheap components.. don't expect to have a computer system that walks on water, eats bullets, and sh*ts ice-cream. You don't have to pay a fortune for a 'God-mode' system either, but use common sense when buying components (quality of the component and vendor can be of equal importance at times).
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Cost:
You can get a solid PC for around $1000 (homebuilt or prebuilt). It's not that hard to do, honestly. Check out a magazine rack and you'll find a number of guides on how to build a low-budget, solid-performance PC.
I am actually getting a little worried. When I first started with CPU Gaming it was on the Family Computer back in 96 or 97. Eventually my older brother bought himself a new 2-3K Rig and this replaced the family computer for years. During this time I was unfortunately left behind when it comes to the ins-and-outs of CPUs. I have quite a lot of knowledge, but never really put one together myself. I moved out in May of 06 and I haven't had a gaming CPU since. I told myself at first that I could live without one. I was able to afford a 360 to fill the gap that only Online Gaming can fill and have had a decent go of it with CoD3, R6:V, and CoD4. Eventually, maybe because I visit MMORPG.com twice a day, I have developed a strong longing for MMORPGs. After following quite a few in the last few years I have settled on AoC(Has to be PC) as my last hope. I even bought all the story collections to psyche myself up. Unfortunately it is a matter of money. I have tried for almost the same 2 years now to save up for a CPU. I even got myself a Credit Card just so I could build enough credit to do a payment plan with Dell(and their very expensive CPUs), but I still don't have enough of a History for them.
With every AoC delay I kept telling myself I had another 3-4 months to save, but with less than 2 months left my current savings is actually in the negative. Now I know I can't afford a 2-3K Rig without a payment plan, but $500-$1000 is very achievable. I also figure I can build the thing myself, and If I need any help my brother has done it plenty of times. I was therefore quite excited to see the $500 list of parts for a CPU that could possibly play AoC. However I noticed the replies stating that the list wasn't entirely complete and maybe the estimate was a bit low.
Could someone tweak the OP's List to the $800-$1000 Range for me? I figure I can treat myself to a higher end component once every few months once I have an actual CPU to work with. I promise that the time or effort put into making a list won't be in vain. My work offers pretty much unlimited overtime and If I have to work 2-3 hours extra a day until May to be ready for AoC I'll force myself to do it. I just need to know what my goal is and how to achieve it.
As for the CPU I am using now and have used to keep up with MMORPG.com, it is my Room Mate's CPU. It is ok for surfing, but nothing else.
umm sorry vista is still a horrible OS even if you know the ins and outs of computers. I have 2 guild members plagued with the BSD
Display driver has stopped running and has recovered
Display driver Atikmdag has stopped responding and has successfully recovered
or
Display driver has stopped running and has recovered
Display driver R300 has stopped responding and has successfully recovered
And both video cards makers claim its a vista error, Microsoft acknowledges this error and after over a year they cannot/do not have a fix for it. Yet my 2 guildies cannot play any video game or program which uses a decent amount of GPU power. Go ahead and find a 100% fix and its non existent. Both were both from 3rd party (Dell and powerpc). One of them is a total pc-head who knows more than most people i met...yet still has not found a fix for it
Vista is cursed...and guarantee you it will be replaced or had have a MAJOR overhaul before xp stops getting support in 2014. If it wasn't for DX10 Vista would have been dead and buried already.
I can't believe how many people still diss Vista. I run Vista Ultimate 64 Bit and it far out performs the 32 Bit brother and as for XP... I have it on a partition but rarely use it.
If there are people worried about Vista I would suggest partition a HDD and have them all. Hell while you are at it install a real OS and put on Linux
Hell, Vista is sooo easy it does everything for you. The only problems start to occur with Vista is if your system is outdated by a number of years
or get a display driver BSD which there is no fix for now matter how much you try...go ahead..search it out. If you find a fix....please let me know!
or get a display driver BSD which there is no fix for now matter how much you try...go ahead..search it out. If you find a fix....please let me know!
I don't need to search for a fix - mine aint broke