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omgz i need a $2000 rig to play this game !!

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  • CharlizdCharlizd Member UncommonPosts: 923

    Originally posted by chaoticgods


    I'm almost wondering if I should list the Gaming Computer i built for myself , I spent about 10.5 Grand Building it up too where I needed it at
    LOL now thats not a hobby thats an obsession

    Yes you can get a good rig for under $1000 this is what i just bout

     

    AMD X2 5200+

    4 gigs of Kingston ram

    8600gt 1024 mb vid card

    250gb hard drive

    Gigabyte am2 motherboard (supporting 16gb of ram)

    Icute gaming case with 12 inch fan on side of case (big enough to fit in my car)

    Came with Vista Home prem

    500w PS

    And all this cost me just under 600 Australian Brand new with Warranty

    So thats $550 U.S,   $351 Euro's

    And this machin plays everygame i have at maximum setting with maximum FPS i have not tried Crysis yet as this game tbo does not appeal to me and i knwo that MMO's are a bloody long way from being like that so i find it irrelevant to need to judge my machine against it. :)

     

    Andrew "Charlizd" Phippen | Lead World Builder | The Saga of Lucimia MMORPG
  • randomtrandomt Member UncommonPosts: 1,220

    Originally posted by Huzz


    how long will it take for a 9800 gx2 to be outdated?

    Already is, not by to much tho

  • HashbrickHashbrick Member RarePosts: 1,851

    Christ OP why not just go to the dollar store, seriously if you are going to be that cheap ass I hope your PC starts on fire. PSUs with low quality will start on fire it has happen and if you are not spending more than $50 on a PSU you are taking your life/home/pc in your own hands. Also a cheap ass motherboard isn't going to get you anywhere specially rail speeds/access speeds you are only dumbing down your performance of everything else by doing this and fail fail FAIL, one day you'll turn on your pc and boom oops wont turn on, gee guess you shouldn't have bought a dumpster motherboard.

    To give this advice to newbies is laughable you are only causing them a world of pain by telling them they can go out and buy a cheap ass dumpster PC and run AoC which at it's current listing will not run it well you'll be lucky if you get 10-15fps due to the processor speed and the lack of ram, remember ram is go in online games. Oh noes I got lag, whats the first word out of everyones mouth "BUY MORE RAM!" need at least 2gigs or well speed ram, your ram listed is dumpster ram extremely wildly moronic speeds.

    Ugh /rant off, do your research more. And for god sakes people don't follow his foot steps, you can can get a great gaming PC for under $1000 but his POS would be like throwing your money down the toilet.

    [[ DEAD ]] - Funny - I deleted my account on the site using the cancel account button.  Forum user is separate and still exists with no way of deleting it. Delete it admins. Do it, this ends now.
  • Death1942Death1942 Member UncommonPosts: 2,587

    if i really tried i could get a DX10 computer capable of running AoC for around $600 or $700.  my machine that i got for AoC was around $1200-$1300 and is quite a decent machine.  $2000 down here (Australia) would be a monster of a machine if you got it off the net, or at my local computer shop, a computer that can barely connect to the internet.

    MMO wish list:

    -Changeable worlds
    -Solid non level based game
    -Sharks with lasers attached to their heads

  • wihtgarwihtgar Member UncommonPosts: 119

    Originally posted by DAS1337


     
     
    As time goes on, technology gets better.  Gamers upgrade.  Games have better graphics.  If you can't afford intermediate upgrades to keep up, you need to get yourself out of that Burger King job.
    You go to college, pick up 100-200k student loan debt.  Buy a new house and add 300-500k debt.  Get a car 30-40k debt.  Get a cell phone... get a cell phone for you wife.... 100 bucks a month.  Get internet... get cable... get your wife pregnant.

     

    I'm sorry but kids like you always crack me up.  Those of us who really do live in the real world v/s working at the mall and saving pennies for a computer are not going to lay out a lot of money for a new "gaming" rig.  It's not because we don't have good jobs or because we don't make a lot of money.  It's just that we spend a lot of money on other things. 

     

    An MMO is a different monster than the old Counterstrike games.  Counterstike could make it just by selling to 20 year olds who worked at the mall and put their big 2k into a computer.  An MMO has to have a large player base who can send in 15-20 bucks a month to keep playing.  W/O having access to a large audience  IMMEDIATELY, v/s 2-3 years down the road, the cost of upgrading the game and the cost of servers will turn the game into a "Vanguard." 

    That's just the way it goes.

  • Sam123jo0123Sam123jo0123 Member Posts: 409
    Originally posted by wihtgar


     
    Originally posted by DAS1337


     
     
    As time goes on, technology gets better.  Gamers upgrade.  Games have better graphics.  If you can't afford intermediate upgrades to keep up, you need to get yourself out of that Burger King job.
    You go to college, pick up 100-200k student loan debt.  Buy a new house and add 300-500k debt.  Get a car 30-40k debt.  Get a cell phone... get a cell phone for you wife.... 100 bucks a month.  Get internet... get cable... get your wife pregnant.

     

     

    I'm sorry but kids like you always crack me up.  Those of us who really do live in the real world v/s working at the mall and saving pennies for a computer are not going to lay out a lot of money for a new "gaming" rig.  It's not because we don't have good jobs or because we don't make a lot of money.  It's just that we spend a lot of money on other things. 

     

    An MMO is a different monster than the old Counterstrike games.  Counterstike could make it just by selling to 20 year olds who worked at the mall and put their big 2k into a computer.  An MMO has to have a large player base who can send in 15-20 bucks a month to keep playing.  W/O having access to a large audience  IMMEDIATELY, v/s 2-3 years down the road, the cost of upgrading the game and the cost of servers will turn the game into a "Vanguard." 

    That's just the way it goes.





    I'm 22 in the UK, have my own house, been to uni, have a cell phone, I'm not in debt and my wife isn't pregnant, either it's america thats plain wrong, or it's you.

    Account has been stolen, why would someone want to steal my account?

  • miagisanmiagisan Member Posts: 5,156

    Originally posted by Thornrage


     
    Originally posted by miagisan


    umm sorry vista is still a horrible OS even if you know the ins and outs of computers. I have 2 guild members plagued with the BSD
    Vista is cursed...and guarantee you it will be replaced or had have a MAJOR overhaul before xp stops getting support in 2014. If it wasn't for DX10 Vista would have been dead and buried already.

     

    Whatever!  I have been using Vista since it went public and with a few driver issues at first .. it has been running smooth ever since.  Vista had less problems than XP when it came out.  But I am sure you wont believe me.  I honestly dont care, I just wanted to make sure others know that Vista DOES work

    lol....classic, heres a cookie

    /cookie

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  • Sam123jo0123Sam123jo0123 Member Posts: 409
    Originally posted by miagisan


     
    Originally posted by Thornrage


     
    Originally posted by miagisan


    umm sorry vista is still a horrible OS even if you know the ins and outs of computers. I have 2 guild members plagued with the BSD
    Vista is cursed...and guarantee you it will be replaced or had have a MAJOR overhaul before xp stops getting support in 2014. If it wasn't for DX10 Vista would have been dead and buried already.

     

    Whatever!  I have been using Vista since it went public and with a few driver issues at first .. it has been running smooth ever since.  Vista had less problems than XP when it came out.  But I am sure you wont believe me.  I honestly dont care, I just wanted to make sure others know that Vista DOES work

    lol....classic, heres a cookie

     

    /cookie

    Vista had less bugs than XP? 2 years on it still has bugs and compatability issues and requires 15% more CPU and RAM than XP - Vista doesn't work which is why 86% still use XP.

    Account has been stolen, why would someone want to steal my account?

  • Cotillion99Cotillion99 Member UncommonPosts: 251

    I've heard all the issues with vista and how it sucks, but i can honestly say i haven't had an issue with anything.  Of course i did buy a brand new computer so maybe that has something to do with it...

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  • DAS1337DAS1337 Member UncommonPosts: 2,610

    Originally posted by wihtgar


     
    Originally posted by DAS1337


     
     
    As time goes on, technology gets better.  Gamers upgrade.  Games have better graphics.  If you can't afford intermediate upgrades to keep up, you need to get yourself out of that Burger King job.
    You go to college, pick up 100-200k student loan debt.  Buy a new house and add 300-500k debt.  Get a car 30-40k debt.  Get a cell phone... get a cell phone for you wife.... 100 bucks a month.  Get internet... get cable... get your wife pregnant.

     

     

    I'm sorry but kids like you always crack me up.  Those of us who really do live in the real world v/s working at the mall and saving pennies for a computer are not going to lay out a lot of money for a new "gaming" rig.  It's not because we don't have good jobs or because we don't make a lot of money.  It's just that we spend a lot of money on other things. 

     

    An MMO is a different monster than the old Counterstrike games.  Counterstike could make it just by selling to 20 year olds who worked at the mall and put their big 2k into a computer.  An MMO has to have a large player base who can send in 15-20 bucks a month to keep playing.  W/O having access to a large audience  IMMEDIATELY, v/s 2-3 years down the road, the cost of upgrading the game and the cost of servers will turn the game into a "Vanguard." 

    That's just the way it goes.

    See, I'm not trying to offend you here.. but how is it my problem that you went and put yourself into over a half million dollars in debt and then after that, decided to have kids.  Now if you have enough money to buy a 300-500G house, then you have enough money to spend 2-3g on a real gaming computer.

     

    I don't know where you get this BS about how I'm just a kid that doesn't know anything about life,  so I'll set you straight.  I work a $10/hour job, 40 hours a week.  I have my own apartment, my own car, I pay my own bills.. which include gas, electric, cell phone, internet TV/cable, car insurance, etc.  AND I have my own cat which I have to provide for.  However, I didn't go and do things that I wasn't financially able to do like you.  I have still spent 2 grand in the past 6 months that I've saved and I plan to spend a little bit more in the next few months before AoC is released.  Now how did a poor person like me afford a really nice computer?  Because I'm not an idiot that gets himself into debt and can't pay my way out of it.  By the way, I don't even have much credit, what's your excuse?

     

    If I can do this at my "mail" job.  I'm sure you can do it at your 100G's a year job.  Don't give me your elitist BS.

  • Originally posted by wihtgar


     
    Originally posted by DAS1337


     
     
    As time goes on, technology gets better.  Gamers upgrade.  Games have better graphics.  If you can't afford intermediate upgrades to keep up, you need to get yourself out of that Burger King job.
    You go to college, pick up 100-200k student loan debt.  Buy a new house and add 300-500k debt.  Get a car 30-40k debt.  Get a cell phone... get a cell phone for you wife.... 100 bucks a month.  Get internet... get cable... get your wife pregnant.

     

     

    I'm sorry but kids like you always crack me up.  Those of us who really do live in the real world v/s working at the mall and saving pennies for a computer are not going to lay out a lot of money for a new "gaming" rig.  It's not because we don't have good jobs or because we don't make a lot of money.  It's just that we spend a lot of money on other things. 

     

    An MMO is a different monster than the old Counterstrike games.  Counterstike could make it just by selling to 20 year olds who worked at the mall and put their big 2k into a computer.  An MMO has to have a large player base who can send in 15-20 bucks a month to keep playing.  W/O having access to a large audience  IMMEDIATELY, v/s 2-3 years down the road, the cost of upgrading the game and the cost of servers will turn the game into a "Vanguard." 

    That's just the way it goes.

    Wow...

    Thank you for enlightening me with your vast amount of knowledge, I will not dare question your generalizations, for I am only a "kid" that cracks you up.

  • Wharg0ulWharg0ul Member Posts: 4,183

    newegg.com

    you can grab a monster PC, pre-assembled (for those who don't like to or can't build their own) for $500 - $750. (sans monitor)

    And by monster I mean top of the line processor, 2gb or more of DDR2, dual 8800's, 500gb SATA drives, and 600watt PSU, with a warranty.

    People crying about the cost of PC gaming always make me laugh.

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  • JadarJadar Member Posts: 300


    Originally posted by Wharg0ul
    newegg.com
    you can grab a monster PC, pre-assembled (for those who don't like to or can't build their own) for $500 - $750. (sans monitor)
    And by monster I mean top of the line processor, 2gb or more of DDR2, dual 8800's, 500gb SATA drives, and 600watt PSU, with a warranty.
    People crying about the cost of PC gaming always make me laugh.


    People who spew such unmitigated bullshit make me laugh.

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  • Wharg0ulWharg0ul Member Posts: 4,183
    Originally posted by Jadar


     

    Originally posted by Wharg0ul

    newegg.com

    you can grab a monster PC, pre-assembled (for those who don't like to or can't build their own) for $500 - $750. (sans monitor)

    And by monster I mean top of the line processor, 2gb or more of DDR2, dual 8800's, 500gb SATA drives, and 600watt PSU, with a warranty.

    People crying about the cost of PC gaming always make me laugh.

     



    People who spew such unmitigated bullshit make me laugh.

    I'm sorry...but that makes no sense at all. perhaps if I drop you a Link so you can see for yourself.

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  • HricaHrica Member UncommonPosts: 1,129

     

    Originally posted by Wharg0ul

    Originally posted by Jadar


     

    Originally posted by Wharg0ul

    newegg.com

    you can grab a monster PC, pre-assembled (for those who don't like to or can't build their own) for $500 - $750. (sans monitor)

    And by monster I mean top of the line processor, 2gb or more of DDR2, dual 8800's, 500gb SATA drives, and 600watt PSU, with a warranty.

    People crying about the cost of PC gaming always make me laugh.

     



    People who spew such unmitigated bullshit make me laugh.

    I'm sorry...but that makes no sense at all. perhaps if I drop you a Link so you can see for yourself.

     Please drop a link, my wife needs a new pc bad. We get tax returns soon.

     

    TYVM!!!!!

    o and to stay on topic, you DON'T need a $2k rigg to run AoC.

  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,197

    Originally posted by Wharg0ul

    Originally posted by Jadar


     

    Originally posted by Wharg0ul

    newegg.com

    you can grab a monster PC, pre-assembled (for those who don't like to or can't build their own) for $500 - $750. (sans monitor)

    And by monster I mean top of the line processor, 2gb or more of DDR2, dual 8800's, 500gb SATA drives, and 600watt PSU, with a warranty.

    People crying about the cost of PC gaming always make me laugh.

     



    People who spew such unmitigated bullshit make me laugh.

    I'm sorry...but that makes no sense at all. perhaps if I drop you a Link so you can see for yourself.

    Dual 8800s themselves, even the 256 - 320 version (gt of course) still would roughly come out to 300 - 400  dollars just for the cards.   Memory is cheap nowadays, but a decent processor goes for at least 150 - 250.  Decent hard drive is 80 dollars minimum for 120+.  Just with those 4 items on the low-end side you're looking at about 550 dollars. That would only give you 200 dollars for the rest of your build if you were looking at a 750 dollar PC. 

    Pre built , ya you could maybe get a deal, like those open box items for instance but you wouldn't get much as far as a warranty is concerned.  Eventhough parts carry their specific warranties on them, that juice runs when the box is open -- not when it's sold.  So ultimately for a PC with dual 8800s and a decent processor (high end dual core) look to spend at the least 750.  I built my gaming PC for 800 with 1 8800 GTS. 

    But on topic again, a 600 dollar PC with the money in the right places will run AoC no problem.



  • Wharg0ulWharg0ul Member Posts: 4,183

    I personally prefer to build my own, anyway.

    Yeah, the graphics cards tend to be the big money sink, and the PSU to power the monsters.

    I definately agree with one of the other posters in this thread....DO NOT go for a cheap PSU. Instability issues, heat, and noise can really ruin your build.

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  • khartman2005khartman2005 Member Posts: 477

    Originally posted by Fadedbomb


     
    Originally posted by greymann


    Same story told over and over:  Friend says his friend of a friend is a pc building wiz and all he has to do is buy the parts saving big $$.  I tell friend he should save himself the headache and time and buy one built with warrently on the complete system.  Friend says, "but all the parts are under warrenty."  I say, "Don't".  Friend doesn't listen.  Friend of a friend throws the pc together like he just don't care.  OS doesn't work.  Friend of friend says, "Well here's your pc".  Friend cries.  Friend brings his pc to me.  I spend all day with him getting OS to work.  Thanks friend.  Friend is happy.  Three weeks later PC doesn't work.  I say "F you".  Friend takes it to Joe Shmoes PC shop.  Friend needs new power supply.  Friend spends another $70 and can't game for several days.  I ask "Well what about the warrenty?".  Friend says he doesn't want to wait that much longer to game.   I say nothing.
    Unless you just want a pc building project and don't care about time or are experienced building just "don't".   A decent dell (outlet) or alienware isn't that bad.  We balk at those prices and mac users can't believe it.  Maybe newegg is good middle ground. Not sure. 
    I'm sorry, but as a system builder myself, I laugh and cry at people who buy from comp companies.

     

    The wife of a buddy of mine had her parents buy her a new computer for her college gift. He was like "Well, they said its great for gaming over the phone!". Two weeks later, it arrives and the following happens:

     

    -"The hell, theres so much trial crap on here!!" <===He spends 4hours removing all the add crap Dell put on the comp.

    -"Whys it so slow?!" <===1gig of ddr2 in a Vista computer

    -"America's Army won't run!" <===Built in video card, Dell also did not have the proper video card software installed.

    -"Grrrrrr" <====He ends up wiping the comp's partition to clear all the crap off the comp that dell put on it.



    -"This thing can't even play Cod4 on lowest settings!!!! %%##%$#@!@#!" <====He ends up spending $350+ on a new video card and 2gigs of more ram. (vista uses 700-756mb of ram by itself)

     

    In the end, my bud ends up spending $350 on a computer that was a gift for his wife from her parents. Not to mention countless hours troubleshooting. The computer alone cost her parents $1,199.  So, essentially a $1,549 computer could have been built EXACTLY from newegg.com for only $600, and would have been working perfectly within 2hours.

     

    To those of you crying about "experience" about building computers. One day I just decided "I want to make my own", and researched on google and asked around. It didn't take me more than a month to learn how to do it myself.



    Therefore, to help people who WANT to learn how to build their own and know what they can do with computers, I'll be making a VERY noob friendly builder's guide WITH pictures soon on a free forum site and then I'll link it here. Expect it in a couple days, or when I find some time to put i together :).

     

    -Faded

    sorry but the person that bought the dell was the idiot not the dell computer. When you buy a computer from Dell and I have for years. You specify via the customize system button what parts you want on your computer. I have a Dell XPS 710 and I specced it the way I wanted it to be and I can even run Crysis on high with dx10. I can't run it to the max but it does run between 50 and 70 fps.

    Before you make rather ignorant remarks about dell or other computers built by companies do a bit of research first.

    *ps* you can tell dell not to preinstall anything but the OS and that is what they will do.

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  • RohhRohh Member Posts: 87

    here ya go threw these together in like 5 mins

    link

    or this if you wanna splurge

    link

    q6600 can be had for $200 at microcenter. You can also tweak these to bring the cost down. Or you could buy AMD to lower it more. I'm currently running a AMD 3600 brisbane OC'd to 2.9 with a 8800gt and I expect to run AoC at max or close to it. I can run Crysis fine.

    But yea far from 2k

  • DAS1337DAS1337 Member UncommonPosts: 2,610

    Or you could really really splurge.. like me.

     

    link

  • logoherelogohere Member Posts: 77

    I spent about $1,600 on my new rig. But I figured why build something cheap that will run AoC when I could build a machine that might last me a few years. You would also be suprised how many people don't build their PC's but instead buy them from Dell or some other manufacturer for an absorbent amount of money.

  • LeodiousLeodious Member UncommonPosts: 773


    Originally posted by kazson

    im just so tired of hearing people say this once they see a video or a screenshot of AOC, these people see Nvidia release a $600 video card and ASSUME you HAVE to have that card to run anything
    i blame Crysis personally as that game is coded like crap and my proof is games like COD4 and UT3 that run 60+ fps on a WIDE range of PC's without even a hiccup, but NOBODY ever talks about those games and how well they run...just Crysis and how BAD it runs...sigh...but im getting off subject :)
    on a 19 inch flat panel this PC will run all current games with HIGH or better settings except for Crysis ;)
    and no offense if you cant afford what i speced below you arent truly a PC gamer...nothing wrong with that, its not for everyone.. but PC gaming is just more expensive but its NOT as bad as people always claim
    total price $531.92 + shipping
    prices from newegg.com
    2 gigs of memory $36.99
    9600 GT $154.99 (its scary how close this card performs to my 8800GTS i bought for $380)
    2.2 ghz duo core 2 processor $119
    LGA 775 motherboard $32.99
    575w power suppy $24.99 (i would acutally spend more for this but if you want low price)
    120g harddrive $44.99 (go as high as you can afford if you want)
    asus DVD drive $11.99
    Raidmax ATX case $19.98
    Windows XP system builders Disc $85.99


    I think this is a good post, and frankly, putting together a computer is not really that hard. I think, however, not all people understand the intricacies of making sure what they buy will work together properly. Pin numbers and the like are probably confusing. If you have really put together a working computer for under $600, you would be doing a lot of people a favor if you would link these items on newegg so they can see them there.

    "There are two great powers, and they've been fighting since time began. Every advance in human life, every scrap of knowledge and wisdom and decency we have has been torn by one side from the teeth of the other. Every little increase in human freedom has been fought over ferociously between those who want us to know more and be wiser and stronger, and those who want us to obey and be humble and submit."

    — John Parry, to his son Will; "The Subtle Knife," by Phillip Pullman

  • AmazingAveryAmazingAvery Age of Conan AdvocateMember UncommonPosts: 7,188

    My local store is often cheaper than new egg, for parts, and will put the PC together, stress test it, load OS etc for $50.

     



  • Wharg0ulWharg0ul Member Posts: 4,183
    Originally posted by AmazingAvery


    My local store is often cheaper than new egg, for parts, and will put the PC together, stress test it, load OS etc for $50.
     

    wow, that's a rarity. Most local shops can usually never compete with newegg. I know no one in my city can...though I wish they could. I'd rather drive to a local store and buy the part I need than have to wait for it to be shipped.

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  • HuzzHuzz Member Posts: 163
    Originally posted by kazson

    Originally posted by Huzz


    how long will it take for a 9800 gx2 to be outdated?



    honestly i think it will take awhile...there hasnt been a big jump in graphics performance in years...people running 7900GT's are doing just fine in most games....and nothing has pushed me to upgrade my 8800GTS yet.....so that 9800 Gx2 will stick around for awhile im sure



    ah hmm so would you say that if i got another 8800gts in sli would it equal the 9800gx2? cause i hear that a 9800 is just 2 8800gts in 1 card.

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