I hope you do enjoy the game, Ummax. While we wait for better things, like a certain group of people bring back a certain state of a certain game Its certain that this certain group would get more people playing their game than SOE, any day! And they won't be afraid to release any information to prove it!
I'm waiting for better things too been waiting years many years meanwhile I play this one cause well TV sucks (exept battlestar galactica that is good..) Other then playing tiddly winks when I want a sit down activity I am not sure what else to do when I want to play a game with other people and against other people.
(adds in . the ones inside my head dont count as other people lol sorry I had to I'm enjoying being colourful and it sure got some interesting reactions. Like lets wack down the threat to our game we love to hate but dont play but somehow do play cause of course the game we hate we play .. or something like that)
For those who enjoy hating things go for it.. or.. do yoga! lol
little secret a corporate yes man would not dis other games on the sony lineup... but lets not worry about details.. *runs*
Pre-CU - 200k+ paying customers NGE - 30k or less paying customers No matter how you slice it...
FAIL
Interesting claims, but wheres the
PROOF
$OE has to show numbers ask them fanboi.
beside that
EMPTY SERVER is proof
intresting you ask vets for numbers and not the company your fanboi of , to support you with required proof and numbers to backup you.
so why $OE don't publish numbers that proof us vets wrong ? $OE don't care about you fanboi, you lost.
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- $OE - eternal enemy of online gaming -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
Pre-CU - 200k+ paying customers NGE - 30k or less paying customers No matter how you slice it...
FAIL
Interesting claims, but wheres the
PROOF
The proof is in the pudding so to speak...simply login and look for yourself. The numbers above are calculated using SOE's own statements. If you have a problem with them please check with them on it.
When i joined SWG for first time, it was like 2 years ago. I liked the game, it was fresh air after WoW - my first MMO experience. A friend of mine who played the game from the very beginning, told me great "stories" about the world, events and etc. I was hooked, i knew all this is gone, but even then i liked the game. I only quit, because there was not enough players online - i had two chars, on Chimaera and Farstar servers.
Sam the proof is in the fact that 20/24 servers has maybe 30 people subscribed and SOE refuses to allow free transfers to them...
You are the PERFECT example of target audience. You'll apparently pay for anything. We just want to make sure others don't pay if they don't have to. We will continue to advise them to use the Free Trials.
Sam the proof is in the fact that 20/24 servers has maybe 30 people subscribed and SOE refuses to allow free transfers to them... You are the PERFECT example of target audience. You'll apparently pay for anything. We just want to make sure others don't pay if they don't have to. We will continue to advise them to use the Free Trials.
see now this is wrong
you said that to me too..
i'm not paying for connan or warhammer online.. I'm saving my money for the stargate worlds which may prove crappy as all getout and then send me once again running back to SWG. See now this is what you dont get the reason why a lot of people still play swg is because they tried other games and they sucked mucho big time and so they went back to a game which they found to be much much better.
I anticipate though that some people here will never play another video game because in all honesty most are WORSE then SWG and if you thing SWG is bad theer is no way that you will like the present bunch of new releases or the next bunch either..
So my gut feeling is the reason why you guys hang around on these boards is because you actually dont have anything else to do other then post how bad a game is for 3 friggen years..
such is life..
That's what fascinates me about this crew of people their total inability to just walk away from a game and pick up another one and play it and close the door on what was simply a piece of entertainment to begin with. I wonder how people lamenting over what basically amounts to nothing in the scheme of things deal with real issues like say ilness, death an accident or going to the dentist to have a cavity repaired...
Sam the proof is in the fact that 20/24 servers has maybe 30 people subscribed and SOE refuses to allow free transfers to them...
You are the PERFECT example of target audience. You'll apparently pay for anything. We just want to make sure others don't pay if they don't have to. We will continue to advise them to use the Free Trials.
This is a statement , not proof.
Account has been stolen, why would someone want to steal my account?
My response to this thread after looking through some of the replies. "May the Anger Be With You..... Always"
contempt would be a better word...but I like your Starwarsyness though.
How about "Your Rant is Not Welcome Here..... Move Along"
Why the need to flame? Valeran didn't say anything that wasn't true and the best you can offer is a flame?
Apologies, that was not aimed at Valeran, I meant at the thread. I would not intentionally flame someone for having an opinion. And was meant to be a joke............
ummax, that was a hard read, very poor English... But I think I got your point. My point is we don't care about people who currently play the game. We care about people who MIGHT play the game. They deserve an honest opinion supported by facts which is not what they get from you and some of the others. Like I said, I encourage anyone to try the Free Trial and let them make up their own mind. I am 100% confident that is all the convicing they will need to see how correct we are. What kind of business do you run?
You left 3 years ago and the game was totally different then according to what you say therefore logic would dictate that you can't possibly give an accurate review of a game you claim to have never truly played.. assuming that of course your accurate in saying the game has completely changed. I personally dont think it has changed that much. Layers of other things have been added on top and they have redone the profs but the core game its identical. Jump to lighspeed has not changed one iota and that is probably one of the more popular parts.
and in saying that are you correct as I play the game now and have been for two months and I like it. Therefor for a great many you are in fact incorect and your opinions are just that opinion and not fact.
/shrug
You have only played for two months........
kk come back in a couple of years and tell people who had vested time and money into their characters and tell them to get over it...
That is.............Juuuuustt before SOE have the new FIGI update (Fantasticly Iconic Game Implementation) and remove all your items to a base level and your character as you once knew has gone and is unrecognisable... Then come and say the same words. Please think about it.
If you realise why people are angry, not because they are being childish but because of what actually happened to us you may at least moderate your tone of posting. Yes these posts have been said before but SOE is trying for the long game and hunkering down and proceeding with its current path with the NGE. All the "Vets" are doing is informing the public of what happened AND that SOE didnt care and as in not care there werre no ACTIONS just flannel and "to get over it"... shame on them.
As you said earlier I can say what I like however it does not make it right ... but if enough people remember and say the same comments then maybe .. just maybe it will never happen again to you and any one else in the "gameplay may change" industry and for that I /salute the Vets for there efforts.
"Obi-Wan Kenobi: We were decieved by a lie; we all were. It appears that SOE is behind everything, including the NGE! After the death of CU, the NGE became their new apprentice."
Originally posted by ummax That's what fascinates me about this crew of people their total inability to just walk away from a game and pick up another one and play it and close the door on what was simply a piece of entertainment to begin with. I wonder how people lamenting over what basically amounts to nothing in the scheme of things deal with real issues like say ilness, death an accident or going to the dentist to have a cavity repaired...
Yeah because sparring with fanbois on an internet forum for a few minutes a day means we aren't capable of dealing with real life issues...
ummax, that was a hard read, very poor English... But I think I got your point. My point is we don't care about people who currently play the game. We care about people who MIGHT play the game. They deserve an honest opinion supported by facts which is not what they get from you and some of the others. Like I said, I encourage anyone to try the Free Trial and let them make up their own mind. I am 100% confident that is all the convicing they will need to see how correct we are. What kind of business do you run?
You left 3 years ago and the game was totally different then according to what you say therefore logic would dictate that you can't possibly give an accurate review of a game you claim to have never truly played.. assuming that of course your accurate in saying the game has completely changed. I personally dont think it has changed that much. Layers of other things have been added on top and they have redone the profs but the core game its identical. Jump to lighspeed has not changed one iota and that is probably one of the more popular parts.
and in saying that are you correct as I play the game now and have been for two months and I like it. Therefor for a great many you are in fact incorect and your opinions are just that opinion and not fact.
/shrug
You have only played for two months........
kk come back in a couple of years and tell people who had vested time and money into their characters and tell them to get over it...
That is.............Juuuuustt before SOE have the new FIGI update (Fantasticly Iconic Game Implementation) and remove all your items to a base level and your character as you once knew has gone and is unrecognisable... Then come and say the same words. Please think about it.
If you realise why people are angry, not because they are being childish but because of what actually happened to us you may at least moderate your tone of posting. Yes these posts have been said before but SOE is trying for the long game and hunkering down and proceeding with its current path with the NGE. All the "Vets" are doing is informing the public of what happened AND that SOE didnt care and as in not care there werre no ACTIONS just flannel and "to get over it"... shame on them.
As you said earlier I can say what I like however it does not make it right ... but if enough people remember and say the same comments then maybe .. just maybe it will never happen again to you and any one else in the "gameplay may change" industry and for that I /salute the Vets for there efforts.
I'm a vet and was playing in july 2003 and as a vet I am telling anyone mooning over something silly like this to GET OVER IT
hows that"
anyhow you know this is a great sport when you have the flu I should try this more often it passes the time better then those soap operas PLUS it acts like them too. When I get the flu again in a year I can come back and say the IDENTICAL same thing over again because nothing will have changed just like those tv shows the world turns or whatever another world? gah ..
Ahh fair enough.. took the comment regarding 2 months as literal.
Well hopefully in 1 year SWG will be replaced. Heres hoping
"Obi-Wan Kenobi: We were decieved by a lie; we all were. It appears that SOE is behind everything, including the NGE! After the death of CU, the NGE became their new apprentice."
ummax, you are the most entertaining poster on these forums. It's hard to read your version of English, and you seem to lack the basic ability to use logic, but on a serious note you are truly the most entertaining poster. And I mean that as a compliment. : )
All I gotta say is, wait till all thier little buffs get out of hand, overpowered profs and nerfs keep flying around, bugs get more and more out of hand as they add more content over current bugs and then they decide the system isn't working and decide to change it again.
They did it twice already, they will do it again.
Hell combat stats and functions change on a monthly basis as it is. I got tired of re-making all my gear and relearning half my prof everytime I turned around.
I recommend the game...the bundle pack with all expansions is inexpensive...and it provided me hours of enjoyment and exploration for 3 months at a reasonable monthly cost. I didn't even explore a fraction of the worlds...I did play a jedi..probably should have picked something else. Only problem i had is once i reached 52nd level there was no other story content. Granted I was not a guild member but still....I have no pre-cu/nge experience...but i have read considerably ..on the forums and such...It seems there was a few good things that were done away with...and I even agree,,,no one should start as a Jedi...but i also understand some of the reasons it was changed. Despite the open ended sandbox world and the multiple professions and skills...I never watched star wars once...of many viewings...and thought " I want to be a moisture farmer just like Uncle Owen"...or the one Imperial guard that is always stareing off into space while standing on a rail-less precipice of some space station. A merger of the ultra-realism and an action oriented game was ultimately a good idea...only too long after the initial subscribers were accustomed to the game as it existed. Still ..i enjoyed the game and only left after 52nd level due to content issues.
except for the whole retaining and gaining paying customer thing.
So you are recommending a game to people that you yourself agreed has content issues and quit?
**scratches head**
He's recommending a game he enjoyed while he played it. Then he "ran out of content" so he left. What's the difference between that and reaching level 70 in WoW? Nothing. Value in the time played is relative to everyone but your snarky kind of comment is simply trolling.
See the thing is he would have Never ran out of content if he played back befor the CU! And he would have only have to pay 15 bucks a month! Ive came back one time played for a few days Was very disapointed with what they had turned one of the best MMO's into! SoE Messed it up plane and simple, Maybe to somone that has never played it its good, but to the person that grinded out 25 careers and enjoyed doing it in order to unlock a jedi, its crap to see you can roll a jedi from day one. Yes I know there weeker but its still shame full.
He's recommending a game he enjoyed while he played it. Then he "ran out of content" so he left. What's the difference between that and reaching level 70 in WoW? Nothing. Value in the time played is relative to everyone but your snarky kind of comment is simply trolling.
See the thing is he would have Never ran out of content if he played back befor....
See, you lost me right there. Pre-NGE is irrelevant. The NGE is the current state of the game and the content available to play apparently was fun enough to recommend. This thread started as "Hey, if you're going to play, come to our server because it has a nice community". Someone added his two cents to "use a trial first so you don't get ripped off" (which is sound consumer advice) and another person said that "while he played it was fun but he effectively finished it when he felt he ran out of content". No where does Pre-NGE become relevant.
Comments
WOW!!!!
ummax truly is the perfect example of the "target audience"... There is simply no getting through... Logic is 100% foreign to it.
Tecmo Bowl.
playing with their tinker toys
Well one thing is for certain I sure know how to get people all rilled up
You know a lot of people sure do pay an aweful lot of attention to the little old deluded fanboi or whatever. Kinda funny
I think I desecrated the holy grail or something
*jaw drops on floor*
I am in awe
(tries to figure out how to ad another smiley..)
I'm waiting for better things too been waiting years many years meanwhile I play this one cause well TV sucks (exept battlestar galactica that is good..) Other then playing tiddly winks when I want a sit down activity I am not sure what else to do when I want to play a game with other people and against other people.
(adds in . the ones inside my head dont count as other people lol sorry I had to I'm enjoying being colourful and it sure got some interesting reactions. Like lets wack down the threat to our game we love to hate but dont play but somehow do play cause of course the game we hate we play .. or something like that)
For those who enjoy hating things go for it.. or.. do yoga! lol
little secret a corporate yes man would not dis other games on the sony lineup... but lets not worry about details.. *runs*
Interesting claims, but wheres the
PROOF
Account has been stolen, why would someone want to steal my account?
Interesting claims, but wheres the
PROOF
$OE has to show numbers ask them fanboi.
beside that
EMPTY SERVER is proof
intresting you ask vets for numbers and not the company your fanboi of , to support you with required proof and numbers to backup you.
so why $OE don't publish numbers that proof us vets wrong ? $OE don't care about you fanboi, you lost.
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
Interesting claims, but wheres the
PROOF
The proof is in the pudding so to speak...simply login and look for yourself. The numbers above are calculated using SOE's own statements. If you have a problem with them please check with them on it.
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Ten Golden Rules Of Videogame Fanboyism
"SOE has probably united more gamers in hatred than Blizzard has subs"...daelnor
My response to this thread after looking through some of the replies.
"May the Anger Be With You..... Always"
contempt would be a better word...but I like your Starwarsyness though.
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Ten Golden Rules Of Videogame Fanboyism
"SOE has probably united more gamers in hatred than Blizzard has subs"...daelnor
When i joined SWG for first time, it was like 2 years ago. I liked the game, it was fresh air after WoW - my first MMO experience. A friend of mine who played the game from the very beginning, told me great "stories" about the world, events and etc. I was hooked, i knew all this is gone, but even then i liked the game. I only quit, because there was not enough players online - i had two chars, on Chimaera and Farstar servers.
Sam the proof is in the fact that 20/24 servers has maybe 30 people subscribed and SOE refuses to allow free transfers to them...
You are the PERFECT example of target audience. You'll apparently pay for anything. We just want to make sure others don't pay if they don't have to. We will continue to advise them to use the Free Trials.
Tecmo Bowl.
you said that to me too..
i'm not paying for connan or warhammer online.. I'm saving my money for the stargate worlds which may prove crappy as all getout and then send me once again running back to SWG. See now this is what you dont get the reason why a lot of people still play swg is because they tried other games and they sucked mucho big time and so they went back to a game which they found to be much much better.
I anticipate though that some people here will never play another video game because in all honesty most are WORSE then SWG and if you thing SWG is bad theer is no way that you will like the present bunch of new releases or the next bunch either..
So my gut feeling is the reason why you guys hang around on these boards is because you actually dont have anything else to do other then post how bad a game is for 3 friggen years..
such is life..
That's what fascinates me about this crew of people their total inability to just walk away from a game and pick up another one and play it and close the door on what was simply a piece of entertainment to begin with. I wonder how people lamenting over what basically amounts to nothing in the scheme of things deal with real issues like say ilness, death an accident or going to the dentist to have a cavity repaired...
Originally posted by Thunderous
Sam the proof is in the fact that 20/24 servers has maybe 30 people subscribed and SOE refuses to allow free transfers to them...
You are the PERFECT example of target audience. You'll apparently pay for anything. We just want to make sure others don't pay if they don't have to. We will continue to advise them to use the Free Trials.
This is a statement , not proof.
Account has been stolen, why would someone want to steal my account?
contempt would be a better word...but I like your Starwarsyness though.
How about "Your Rant is Not Welcome Here..... Move Along"
contempt would be a better word...but I like your Starwarsyness though.
How about "Your Rant is Not Welcome Here..... Move Along"
Why the need to flame? Valeran didn't say anything that wasn't true and the best you can offer is a flame?
Tecmo Bowl.
contempt would be a better word...but I like your Starwarsyness though.
How about "Your Rant is Not Welcome Here..... Move Along"
Why the need to flame? Valeran didn't say anything that wasn't true and the best you can offer is a flame?
Apologies, that was not aimed at Valeran, I meant at the thread. I would not intentionally flame someone for having an opinion. And was meant to be a joke............
contempt would be a better word...but I like your Starwarsyness though.
How about "Your Rant is Not Welcome Here..... Move Along"
Why the need to flame? Valeran didn't say anything that wasn't true and the best you can offer is a flame?
you call that a flame?get a sense of humour ..
You left 3 years ago and the game was totally different then according to what you say therefore logic would dictate that you can't possibly give an accurate review of a game you claim to have never truly played.. assuming that of course your accurate in saying the game has completely changed. I personally dont think it has changed that much. Layers of other things have been added on top and they have redone the profs but the core game its identical. Jump to lighspeed has not changed one iota and that is probably one of the more popular parts.
and in saying that are you correct as I play the game now and have been for two months and I like it. Therefor for a great many you are in fact incorect and your opinions are just that opinion and not fact.
/shrug
You have only played for two months........
kk come back in a couple of years and tell people who had vested time and money into their characters and tell them to get over it...
That is.............Juuuuustt before SOE have the new FIGI update (Fantasticly Iconic Game Implementation) and remove all your items to a base level and your character as you once knew has gone and is unrecognisable... Then come and say the same words. Please think about it.
If you realise why people are angry, not because they are being childish but because of what actually happened to us you may at least moderate your tone of posting. Yes these posts have been said before but SOE is trying for the long game and hunkering down and proceeding with its current path with the NGE. All the "Vets" are doing is informing the public of what happened AND that SOE didnt care and as in not care there werre no ACTIONS just flannel and "to get over it"... shame on them.
As you said earlier I can say what I like however it does not make it right ... but if enough people remember and say the same comments then maybe .. just maybe it will never happen again to you and any one else in the "gameplay may change" industry and for that I /salute the Vets for there efforts.
"Obi-Wan Kenobi: We were decieved by a lie; we all were. It appears that SOE is behind everything, including the NGE! After the death of CU, the NGE became their new apprentice."
Yeah because sparring with fanbois on an internet forum for a few minutes a day means we aren't capable of dealing with real life issues...
You left 3 years ago and the game was totally different then according to what you say therefore logic would dictate that you can't possibly give an accurate review of a game you claim to have never truly played.. assuming that of course your accurate in saying the game has completely changed. I personally dont think it has changed that much. Layers of other things have been added on top and they have redone the profs but the core game its identical. Jump to lighspeed has not changed one iota and that is probably one of the more popular parts.
and in saying that are you correct as I play the game now and have been for two months and I like it. Therefor for a great many you are in fact incorect and your opinions are just that opinion and not fact.
/shrug
You have only played for two months........
kk come back in a couple of years and tell people who had vested time and money into their characters and tell them to get over it...
That is.............Juuuuustt before SOE have the new FIGI update (Fantasticly Iconic Game Implementation) and remove all your items to a base level and your character as you once knew has gone and is unrecognisable... Then come and say the same words. Please think about it.
If you realise why people are angry, not because they are being childish but because of what actually happened to us you may at least moderate your tone of posting. Yes these posts have been said before but SOE is trying for the long game and hunkering down and proceeding with its current path with the NGE. All the "Vets" are doing is informing the public of what happened AND that SOE didnt care and as in not care there werre no ACTIONS just flannel and "to get over it"... shame on them.
As you said earlier I can say what I like however it does not make it right ... but if enough people remember and say the same comments then maybe .. just maybe it will never happen again to you and any one else in the "gameplay may change" industry and for that I /salute the Vets for there efforts.
I'm a vet and was playing in july 2003 and as a vet I am telling anyone mooning over something silly like this to GET OVER IT
hows that"
anyhow you know this is a great sport when you have the flu I should try this more often it passes the time better then those soap operas PLUS it acts like them too. When I get the flu again in a year I can come back and say the IDENTICAL same thing over again because nothing will have changed just like those tv shows the world turns or whatever another world? gah ..
Ahh fair enough.. took the comment regarding 2 months as literal.
Well hopefully in 1 year SWG will be replaced. Heres hoping
"Obi-Wan Kenobi: We were decieved by a lie; we all were. It appears that SOE is behind everything, including the NGE! After the death of CU, the NGE became their new apprentice."
ummax, you are the most entertaining poster on these forums. It's hard to read your version of English, and you seem to lack the basic ability to use logic, but on a serious note you are truly the most entertaining poster. And I mean that as a compliment. : )
Tecmo Bowl.
All I gotta say is, wait till all thier little buffs get out of hand, overpowered profs and nerfs keep flying around, bugs get more and more out of hand as they add more content over current bugs and then they decide the system isn't working and decide to change it again.
They did it twice already, they will do it again.
Hell combat stats and functions change on a monthly basis as it is. I got tired of re-making all my gear and relearning half my prof everytime I turned around.
except for the whole retaining and gaining paying customer thing.
So you are recommending a game to people that you yourself agreed has content issues and quit?
**scratches head**
He's recommending a game he enjoyed while he played it. Then he "ran out of content" so he left. What's the difference between that and reaching level 70 in WoW? Nothing. Value in the time played is relative to everyone but your snarky kind of comment is simply trolling.
See the thing is he would have Never ran out of content if he played back befor the CU! And he would have only have to pay 15 bucks a month! Ive came back one time played for a few days Was very disapointed with what they had turned one of the best MMO's into! SoE Messed it up plane and simple, Maybe to somone that has never played it its good, but to the person that grinded out 25 careers and enjoyed doing it in order to unlock a jedi, its crap to see you can roll a jedi from day one. Yes I know there weeker but its still shame full.
See the thing is he would have Never ran out of content if he played back befor....
See, you lost me right there. Pre-NGE is irrelevant. The NGE is the current state of the game and the content available to play apparently was fun enough to recommend. This thread started as "Hey, if you're going to play, come to our server because it has a nice community". Someone added his two cents to "use a trial first so you don't get ripped off" (which is sound consumer advice) and another person said that "while he played it was fun but he effectively finished it when he felt he ran out of content". No where does Pre-NGE become relevant.